NationStates Jolt Archive


Tax rates

Barringtonia
15-10-2007, 08:25
Anyone have a lower tax rate for their nation than 22%?

It's come at huge social cost to my people but it's been worth the hard work and most of my indicators are strong to very good.

What's most important to you as a nation, or for your real life country?

Tax? Social welfare? Crime? Pizza industries?

What are your touch issues over and above whether you personally like a government party or not, or would you vote for a party regardless of their position.

What single issue is most important?

I might add a poll if there's any response or if there's any demand.
IL Ruffino
15-10-2007, 08:28
Frankly, I don't care about my citizens.

The Asdfghgfdghh of IL Ruffino is a massive, safe nation, notable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 4.214 billion are ruled by a mostly-benevolent dictator, who grants the populace the freedom to live their own lives but watches carefully for anyone to slip up.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt government stops and the rest of society begins, but it is mainly concerned with Law & Order, although Defence and Healthcare are on the agenda. The average income tax rate is 74%. A powerhouse of a private sector is dominated by the Arms Manufacturing industry.

A National Academy regulates grammar and usage, postmen have been arrested in job lots for selling junk mail as home insulation, school uniforms are compulsory, and IL Ruffino is notorious for its citizens' infidelity. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is totally unknown, thanks to the all-pervasive police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. IL Ruffino's national animal is the dflkhjhlkfghjkghjgfhkj, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the drklyjsdtlhfdhklhjhjfl.

IL Ruffino is ranked 23rd in the region and 47,465th in the world for Most Income Equality.
Posi
15-10-2007, 08:45
My country has a 100% tax rate. I try to keep Civil Rights high, and the Economy strong. I am often a Dictator, but not right now. According to this calculator (http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php) about 80% of my economy is underground, worker enthusiasm and gov efficiency is about 95% and consumer happiness around 100%. Don't ask me how.


The Waiting of Posi is a massive, safe nation, remarkable for its devotion to social welfare. Its compassionate, hard-working population of 4.38 billion enjoy extensive civil freedoms, particularly in social issues, while business tends to be more regulated.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, liberal government stops and the rest of society begins, but it concentrates mainly on Education, although Social Welfare and Healthcare are secondary priorities. The average income tax rate is 100%. A powerhouse of a private sector is dominated by the Information Technology industry.

The latest Harry Potter book is a bestseller, organ donation rates are among the lowest in the region, unemployment rates have skyrocketed as businesses abandon the country in search of cheap labour, and libraries are bulldozed to make way for internet cafés. Crime is totally unknown. Posi's national animal is the Bottle Kids, which is also the nation's favorite main course, and its currency is the 3rd World Nation.
IL Ruffino
15-10-2007, 08:50
My puppets:

25%
58%
47%
18%
19%
The Brevious
15-10-2007, 08:59
Frankly, I don't care about my citizens.

The Asdfghgfdghh of IL Ruffino is a massive, safe nation, notable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 4.214 billion are ruled by a mostly-benevolent dictator, who grants the populace the freedom to live their own lives but watches carefully for anyone to slip up.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt government stops and the rest of society begins, but it is mainly concerned with Law & Order, although Defence and Healthcare are on the agenda. The average income tax rate is 74%. A powerhouse of a private sector is dominated by the Arms Manufacturing industry.

A National Academy regulates grammar and usage, postmen have been arrested in job lots for selling junk mail as home insulation, school uniforms are compulsory, and IL Ruffino is notorious for its citizens' infidelity. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is totally unknown, thanks to the all-pervasive police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. IL Ruffino's national animal is the dflkhjhlkfghjkghjgfhkj, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the drklyjsdtlhfdhklhjhjfl.

IL Ruffino is ranked 23rd in the region and 47,465th in the world for Most Income Equality.
I noticed that your national animal and your currency are both in your photo portfolio.
o.9
The Brevious
15-10-2007, 09:00
My puppets:

25%
58%
47%
18%
19%

I've gotten it under 20% before, but i'm not looking at it right now, so who knows how badly we're doing.
Pacificville
15-10-2007, 09:07
Mine is 6%, but that is just a fluke as I take little care for the best decision or consistent policies for my nation. I mainly complete the issues so I get to keep my nation and keep posting on NSG. I've had a few that were deleted because I didn't use them any more. :(
Peisandros
15-10-2007, 09:16
Tax rate has always been 100% and always will be.. It's just the way it is.
Economy is absolutely shit, heh.
Vetalia
15-10-2007, 09:23
Note: Here be Roleplaying Stuff

Technically, I do not use the tax percentage for my NS nation for RP purposes...that rate has long since diverged from reality, since my population would have revolted long before taxes hit even 35%, let alone 49%. I use a lower rate of around 20% or so to better reflect the fact that my nation's in-game economy is much bigger than the data provided in the economic calculator and to avoid having a massive budget that is way above the reasonable norm for a nation of my size.

ICly, Vetalia has a per-capita income of $93,000 in current 2007 dollars, or roughly 43,000 Vetalian rubles. That would make our median income roughly equal to the 85th percentile in the United States...our country is obscenely wealthy, but at the cost of a significantly weaker military (decadence and attachment to our luxuries makes the soldiering life less attractive, which is why our navy is so powerful compared to the other branches).

We're as wealthy as it gets. If your country is socialist, you'll hate us, and if you're capitalist, you'll admire us, perhaps even worship us. That is the entire focus of our society and our governmental policies...strength through wealth.
Buffeytown
15-10-2007, 09:43
I used to have a tax rate of 100% and the people were very happy although the economy was bad. A few months ago I decided to try to get my tax rate down to zero to see what would happen. I am currently at 9% tax rate and to do this I have had to become a bit of a dictatorship. The ecomony is reasonable but the most interesting effect of lowering tax is that the crime rate is now out of control. It used to be non existent.

I love looking at these kind of things on NS.
:eek:
Umdogsland
15-10-2007, 10:02
My tax rate was 100% but now it's lower although I think it was better before as the crime rate has gone from totally unknown to a major problem.
Edwinasia
15-10-2007, 10:03
Note: Here be Roleplaying Stuff

Technically, I do not use the tax percentage for my NS nation for RP purposes...that rate has long since diverged from reality, since my population would have revolted long before taxes hit even 35%, let alone 49%.


Well IRL, in Belgium we have an income tax over 50% for the highest incomes. We also pay Value Added Taxes and we have several other taxes as well, such property tax, car taxes ...

We have one of the highest tax rates in the world.

And we are not that unique, in Holland, the Scandinavian countries you see something similar.

But we do not revolt. Why should we?

We pay hot taxes but we receive a lot as well. Everybody can go to university or college, including poor people, health care is almost for free.

If I lose my job, I still get a decent salary. My retirement is nicely arranged, etc…

Sometimes I moan about our high taxes, but I don’t want a system like in US of A as well.
Ifreann
15-10-2007, 10:46
My nation? Wuh?
Barringtonia
15-10-2007, 11:23
Damn you all with your 9%'s.

It does seem as though low tax rates correlate to high crime though most conservative/right-wing parties, traditionally equate with lower tax, put a lot of emphasis on crime control - my main effort is to not spend any budget on anything - if anyone feels like invading me I've a grandpa patrolling my entire coast with a broomstick at the moment, god bless his soul.

Taxes irk me and I suspect they're the main basis for any RL voting decision - I'm earning little so tax the rich, I'm earning a lot, bugger welfare - generally speaking.
Jello Biafra
15-10-2007, 11:35
Jello Biafra has a tax rate of 100%. Jello Biafra 2 does also, but it seems as though Jello Biafra is taxed more heavily than Jello Biafra 2 is.
Call to power
15-10-2007, 12:50
mine is at 100% (probably higher), course my nation is all about spending all day in bed so naturally we need the welfare

SNIP

thats it no more calculators for you :p
Soviestan
15-10-2007, 21:10
The puppet I play with has a tax rate of 56%. And yet the economy is a powerhouse with an income of about 25,000 US. The Government budget is ginormous and there is no democracy.
Vetalia
15-10-2007, 21:15
thats it no more calculators for you :p

Damn Generalites with your no RPing...
Call to power
15-10-2007, 21:25
Damn Generalites with your no RPing...

I not too keen on doing that much math with no reward other than the magic of non-sexual roleplaying with a complete stranger
Lord Raug
15-10-2007, 21:34
Hmm one of my nations is 8% and the other is 3%. 8% is a bit high so I need to work on tax brakes there.


The Rogue Nation of Avenging Pluto
"You dropped Pluto, now we are going to drop you."

UN Category: Compulsory Consumerist State
Civil Rights:
Good

Economy:
Thriving

Political Freedoms:
Unheard Of

Location: The North Pacific

Regional Influence: Minnow

The Rogue Nation of Avenging Pluto is a huge, economically powerful nation, renowned for its complete absence of social welfare. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 600 million are rabid consumers, partly through choice and partly because the government tells them to and dissenters tend to vanish from their homes at night.

The small, corrupt government juggles the competing demands of Defence, Law & Order, and Healthcare. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 3%. A powerhouse of a private sector is dominated by the Arms Manufacturing industry.

Religious organizations are being forced to leave the country or pay income taxes like everybody else, record sales of 'child-whacking sticks' have been recorded, the country's famous rainforests are being bulldozed by the mining industry, and the people of Avenging Pluto are renowned for their nihilistic attitudes. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is totally unknown, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. Avenging Pluto's national animal is the badgers, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the plutonium.

Avenging Pluto is ranked 3373rd in the region and 57,033rd in the world for Most Income Equality.


The Empire of Lord Raug
"Government? Who needs Government? We got Lord Raug."

UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
Civil Rights:
Good

Economy:
Strong

Political Freedoms:
Very Good

Location: The North Pacific

Regional Influence: Minnow

The Empire of Lord Raug is a huge, pleasant nation, notable for its complete absence of social welfare. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 607 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.

The minute government, or what there is of one, juggles the competing demands of Defence, Law & Order, and Education. The average income tax rate is 8%, but much higher for the wealthy. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Arms Manufacturing industry, followed by Basket Weaving and Information Technology.

The latest Harry Potter book is a bestseller, libraries are now installed with jacuzzis and mini-bars, torture is commonly used to extract information from suspected criminals, and voting has become a nightmare since everyone keeps selecting "None of the above". Crime is moderate. Lord Raug's national animal is the yeti, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the crown.

Lord Raug is ranked 2107th in the region and 34,706th in the world for Most Income Equality.
Maraque
15-10-2007, 21:47
Maraque has a 0% tax rate.

The median income for an individual in my nation is 42,326.51 maras, or $86,158.18.
Ultraviolent Radiation
15-10-2007, 21:48
My main nation is currently at 43%. It's economy is at a low at the moment.

My lowest puppet is Vampire Jesus (http://www.nationstates.net/vampire_jesus) with 4%.

My highest puppet is Eterset (http://www.nationstates.net/eterset) with 96%.

They both have better economies than my main nation, though.
ColaDrinkers
15-10-2007, 23:31
My current nation has no tax. Given the choice I would tax some and improve law enforcement, but in the world of NationStates you apparently can't be tough on crime without also spying on your citizens, have a huge army or do something else that is both expensive and retarded.

It's either big brother or crippling crime, it seems. And possibly taxing the hell out of people and spending it on things like social welfare, it was too long since I had a socialist nation for me to remember.

In the real world, my single most important issue right now is the big brother society we're building here. And since every major party promises to fuck me in the butt when it comes to things like privacy, and most of the smaller ones will ally with one of the bigger and do the same, regardless of their positions on this issue, all I could do was to throw my vote away on the Pirate Party.
Posi
15-10-2007, 23:47
Well IRL, in Belgium we have an income tax over 50% for the highest incomes. We also pay Value Added Taxes and we have several other taxes as well, such property tax, car taxes ...

We have one of the highest tax rates in the world.

And we are not that unique, in Holland, the Scandinavian countries you see something similar.

But we do not revolt. Why should we?

We pay hot taxes but we receive a lot as well. Everybody can go to university or college, including poor people, health care is almost for free.

If I lose my job, I still get a decent salary. My retirement is nicely arranged, etc…

Sometimes I moan about our high taxes, but I don’t want a system like in US of A as well.Well, Vets country is designed to worship their individual salary. Nothing is sacred except money.
Demented Hamsters
16-10-2007, 11:02
at present my nation's tax rate is 23%. I've had it up to 100% and as far down as 5%.