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Dozens arrested in New Zealand under Terrorism laws

Alexandrian Ptolemais
15-10-2007, 08:01
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10469938&pnum=0

Basically, today there were dozens of arrests of various people; particularly in the Eastern Bay of Plenty where it is suggested that there were terrorist camps. Tame Iti, a famous Maori activist was one of them.

What do you think? Are these terrorists? Or has the New Zealand Government lost the plot?
Intestinal fluids
15-10-2007, 14:47
People being charged with possessing .22 calibre bullets? Oh the horror! Looks like these people got arrested for stuff you could find at my local sporting goods store.
Yaltabaoth
15-10-2007, 15:55
"The numbers of people attending the training camps had been in the "tens", he said."

Sometimes I like being a kiwi, other times... *sigh*
The_pantless_hero
15-10-2007, 16:07
People being charged with possessing .22 calibre bullets? Oh the horror! Looks like these people got arrested for stuff you could find at my local sporting goods store.
Of course you don't realize that most countries don't have active governmental lobby groups advocating everyone in the country arm themselves to the teeth.
Isidoor
15-10-2007, 16:14
TV3 quoted a source as saying a Napalm bomb had been set off at one of the camps the weekend before last. Napalm is an incendiary gel developed during World War II.

:confused: why did they use napalm?
Andaluciae
15-10-2007, 16:20
:confused: why did they use napalm?

Because it's fun...I guess...

I mean, throughout high school my friends and I cooked up gallons of jellied gasoline, we even gave it a delivery mechanism once.
Imperial isa
15-10-2007, 16:30
:confused: why did they use napalm?

it's a good weed killer
Isidoor
15-10-2007, 16:33
aha "the terrorists" set of the napalm, I thought the government bombed the camps.
Imperial isa
15-10-2007, 16:35
aha "the terrorists" set of the napalm, I thought the government bombed the camps.

what with, they sold most of their air force off
Pacificville
15-10-2007, 16:50
lol. I saw this on the news tonight and also laughed at the "in the tens" comment. But it is a little more interesting than most terrorists arrests you hear about since they are allegedly environmental or indigenous terrorists. It said they've been monitoring them for about a year so I guess they think they are a threat. I'll follow this and wait for the hard evidence.

People being charged with possessing .22 calibre bullets? Oh the horror! Looks like these people got arrested for stuff you could find at my local sporting goods store.

Obviously the woman arrested wasn't legally permitted to be in possession of them. And, this may be a crazy notion, but maybe the less bullets the better? Especially in a pleasant country like NZ where the "get them before they get me" excuse is even more invalid.
Hamilay
15-10-2007, 16:55
Am I the only one who thinks that charging people (well, one person) for posession of bullets when they apparently have no way to fire them is a tad unnecessary, or am I missing something?
Pacificville
15-10-2007, 16:57
Am I the only one who thinks that charging people (well, one person) for posession of bullets when they apparently have no way to fire them is a tad unnecessary, or am I missing something?

Yes. That she is illegally in possession of said bullets and connected to suspected terrorists.

Important parts in bold.
Imperial isa
15-10-2007, 16:58
Am I the only one who thinks that charging people (well, one person) for posession of bullets when they apparently have no way to fire them is a tad unnecessary, or am I missing something?

and using 300 cops and only ending up with seven just shows that what we thinking New Zealand Government lost the plot years ago was right
Hamilay
15-10-2007, 16:59
Yes. That she is illegally in possession of said bullets and connected to suspected terrorists.

Important parts in bold.

Yes, one assumes that if someone is charged for something they have allegedly done something illegal.

I find it curious how all these 'terrorists' haven't actually been charged with any terror-related crimes?
Isidoor
15-10-2007, 17:00
what with, they sold most of their air force off

meh, I'm not really into those things.
Free Soviets
15-10-2007, 17:02
I find it curious how all these 'terrorists' haven't actually been charged with any terror-related crimes?

its been the hip thing to do with anarchist, indigenous, and environmental activists for a number of years now.
Pacificville
15-10-2007, 17:05
Yes, one assumes that if someone is charged for something they have allegedly done something illegal.

I find it curious how all these 'terrorists' haven't actually been charged with any terror-related crimes?

They were in possession of illegal weapons and explosives and had been conducting secret, guerrilla-style training camps. They aren't alleged to have committed terrorist activities yet, so they can't be charged with that crime, but the police obviously felt they are enough of a threat to try and deal with this way. I will trust their judgement until I see reason not to.
Pacificville
15-10-2007, 17:06
and using 300 cops and only ending up with seven just shows that what we thinking New Zealand Government lost the plot years ago was right

I know little, if anything, of NZ current events (except footy... 58-0 lol) but wouldn't this be the police's arena as opposed to the government?
Imperial isa
15-10-2007, 17:17
I know little, if anything, of NZ current events (except footy... 58-0 lol) but wouldn't this be the police's arena as opposed to the government?

New Zealand Police is a national police force ,not like Australia were each state has it own police force
Pacificville
15-10-2007, 17:22
New Zealand Police is a national police force ,not like Australia were each state has it own police force

We have a federal police force too, the Australian Federal Police. But even though they're a national institution their actions have nothing to do with the government, do they? So what is there to criticise the government about? Criticise the detectives and investigators and what not...

This whole thing is a conspiracy anyway, designed by the All Blacks in consultation with the Kiwis to take attention from their respective defeats. In fact I actually heard an economist claiming that NZ's GDP will suffer because of the World Cup defeat.
Imperial isa
15-10-2007, 17:31
yur they do who send the federal police force overseas the government and don't forget it was a New Zealander who asked if the Government lost the plot