NationStates Jolt Archive


*Better* 'Religion' - Now with 100% More Shine!

Kryozerkia
14-10-2007, 22:27
I was quite dissatisfied with the other poll on this topic. It's flawed for two reasons, the first being that there are only a few of all possible religions listed and the results are public. I prefer anonymous.

I'm now going to attempt to make a better version of the poll that lists all the major faiths.

EDIT - poll added. The religion is by the class or type of religious faith it is.
Dexlysia
14-10-2007, 22:53
Congrats on a non-failure of a poll.
I'm an agnostic atheist.
Posi
14-10-2007, 23:03
You forgot Poland, er Scientology.
Fassitude
14-10-2007, 23:03
I don't have a religion.
New Manvir
14-10-2007, 23:06
Agnostic....
Bann-ed
14-10-2007, 23:09
I don't have a religion.

*shakes head sadly*

Now we have to persecute you.
New Limacon
14-10-2007, 23:09
You left off Myrth! I'm not just saying that because it's a NSG tradition, I actually do worship the human who appears here as Myrth. In fact, I'm in his bedroom right now, watching my gentle God sleep as I post here. (Don't tell him.)
United Beleriand
14-10-2007, 23:10
*shakes head sadly*

Now we have to persecute you.That's what Fass was waiting for... ;)
Fassitude
14-10-2007, 23:11
*shakes head sadly*

Now we have to persecute you.

Oh, I'd like to see you try, bitch.
United Beleriand
14-10-2007, 23:11
You forgot Poland, er Scientology.I thought Poland was the extended Vatican.
Bann-ed
14-10-2007, 23:13
That's what Fass was waiting for... ;)
:eek:

Oh, I'd like to see you try, bitch.

*tries*
Natural 20! Ha!

Though, you might have +34 resistance to various forms of persecution. Have you specialized in any in particular?
Graivie
14-10-2007, 23:15
-never posted on here-

Alright. I too, am religiousless, though I picked the bottom option because my religion just doesn't have a name.

Basically I picked all the things that seemed "correct" from other religions and applied them to my way of life.

Though I tell Jehovahs Witness that I'm a pagan/witch so they'll leave me alone. They're not suppose to interract with witches. ;)

-sits back to watch and see what this is- X3;;;
Fassitude
14-10-2007, 23:16
*tries*
Natural 20! Ha!

Though, you might have +34 resistance to various forms of persecution. Have you specialized in any in particular?

Nerd.
Bann-ed
14-10-2007, 23:21
Nerd.

Not at all, I have just played some role-playing games before and on top of that, protect every pocket with a pocket-protector.

Oh...
Deus Malum
14-10-2007, 23:22
Nerd.

*draws sword of Persecution +5*

...:D
Kinda Sensible people
14-10-2007, 23:25
None of the above.

I'm an Apatheist.
Zilam
14-10-2007, 23:26
Jesus Follower.
Atlahan
14-10-2007, 23:26
I find a problem here because I would class modern Gnosticism closer to an esoteric paganism that uses Christian symbols among others because those are the ones familiar to our culture.
Bann-ed
14-10-2007, 23:29
*draws sword of Persecution +5*

...:D

The battle is calling!

*draws bludgeon of bigotry and scroll of 'summon United States Earth'*
Deus Malum
14-10-2007, 23:33
The battle is calling!

*draws bludgeon of bigotry and scroll of 'summon United States Earth'*

Now that was going a bit too far :p

I've killed party members before for less.
Elva Barr
14-10-2007, 23:36
Just wanted to commend, in my personal opinion, your non-failure on account of your inclusion of Deism.
Kryozerkia
14-10-2007, 23:37
Just wanted to commend my personal opinion of your non-failure on account of your inclusion of Deism.

I tried to make it as inclusive as I could.
Bann-ed
14-10-2007, 23:43
Now that was going a bit too far :p

I've killed party members before for less.

My humblest apologies. *eats scroll*
*bows*
BorderWorldXen
14-10-2007, 23:45
Thanks for including Druidism.
:)
Itinerate Tree Dweller
14-10-2007, 23:50
I am a Roman Catholic
Chandelier
14-10-2007, 23:54
I am a Roman Catholic

Same here.
Graivie
14-10-2007, 23:55
=D This place has colours! Yay! =D -snuggles meh usual dark green font- Anyway X3...

Enjoy the poll! I hope you get conclusive... information? -wonder why this poll was made- Was there a purpose or just to satisfy your curiousity?
Lapalam
15-10-2007, 00:05
multi-pantheist
Varsola
15-10-2007, 00:14
Hindu.

Just wondering, is it "Iranian" or "Iranic"? I was under the impression that it was former.
Vetalia
15-10-2007, 00:15
Taoism.
[NS]Click Stand
15-10-2007, 00:15
Now I feel persecuted.

*Only Taoist*

Edit:Yay I'm not alone anymore. 3 people now:fluffle:
Vetalia
15-10-2007, 00:41
Click Stand;13134846']Now I feel persecuted.

*Only Taoist*

See post above you. ;)
Kitab Al-Ibar
15-10-2007, 00:47
I do not commit to any religion that i've heard of, though I admit my knowledge is shaky on a number of those in the pole above.

My only belief is that there is a form of fate, what guides it i do not know, and nor do i much mind. I am not sure which of the options in the pole would be most suitable.

Any suggestions? :p
Heikoku
15-10-2007, 00:55
I'm somewhat agnostic, somewhat mystic. The problem is, I see mysticism and occultism as methods. If most occultists took a more scientific approach, I think there'd be advances...
Kyronea
15-10-2007, 01:11
Same here.

Wait, what?! I thought you were an atheist!
Kyronea
15-10-2007, 01:14
As for me, I am an atheist when it comes to religion, and some sort of Humanist when it comes to philosophy and way of life.
Bann-ed
15-10-2007, 01:14
Wait, what?! I thought you were an atheist!

Dun dun donne......
Soheran
15-10-2007, 01:17
The battle is calling!

*draws bludgeon of bigotry and scroll of 'summon United States Earth'*

*Casts Power Word Dawkins*
Bann-ed
15-10-2007, 01:20
*Casts Power Word Dawkins*

*casts counter-spell Imperial Brazil*

*fizzle*

oh damn...
Deus Malum
15-10-2007, 01:26
Wait, what?! I thought you were an atheist!

You really need to spend more time on MSN with the rest of us :p
Fassitude
15-10-2007, 01:40
*draws sword of Persecution +5*

...:D

If it ain't Final Fantasy (or Tales of [insert land here]), it's crap
Kyronea
15-10-2007, 01:40
You really need to spend more time on MSN with the rest of us :p

Me, MSN? I never have a reason to unless it's to talk about Mafia games.

Speaking of Mafia games, Deus...methinks yours is essentially over. I don't think anyone else wants to keep playing it, sadly. :(
The Loyal Opposition
15-10-2007, 02:01
I believe in people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism).

**adds 1 to the "Atheism, Agnosticism" pile**
Bann-ed
15-10-2007, 02:08
I believe in people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism).

**adds 1 to the "Atheism, Agnosticism" pile**

I like the symbol of this 'religion', and I think I agree with its stance.
Chandelier
15-10-2007, 02:16
Wait, what?! I thought you were an atheist!

I just don't go to church very often. But I like going to church when I get a chance to do so.
Deus Malum
15-10-2007, 02:21
If it ain't Final Fantasy (or Tales of [insert land here]), it's crap

I disagree. While I admit that Final Fantasy VI is one of my favorite RPGs ever, I prefer the Suikoden series in general.

Never really got into anything but Tales of Phantasia for the SNES, and mostly because I thought the concept of a side-view fight system was interesting.

And, in any case, we were referring to Pen and Paper games, blasphemer! :p

Me, MSN? I never have a reason to unless it's to talk about Mafia games.

Speaking of Mafia games, Deus...methinks yours is essentially over. I don't think anyone else wants to keep playing it, sadly. :(

You should, it's quite fun when there's enough of us on.

Yeah, it's dead, need to tell Ifre to get it off of there and close it down.
Bann-ed
15-10-2007, 02:27
And, in any case, we were referring to Pen and Paper games, blasphemer! :p



You should, it's quite fun when there's enough of us on.

Yeah, it's dead, need to tell Ifre to get it off of there and close it down.
That we were.

How do I get in on this MSN NSG massive shindig?

Ah, I also registered with the Mafia. Well, mafia games forum..
Deus Malum
15-10-2007, 02:38
That we were.

How do I get in on this MSN NSG massive shindig?

Ah, I also registered with the Mafia. Well, mafia games forum..

Get your MSN ID to someone, though I just left today's shindig and it looks like the only people left on are TMH and Ifreann.
New Limacon
15-10-2007, 02:40
I am a Roman Catholic

Same here.
There seems to be a large underground of Catholics here, I think we are the largest Christian denomination on this forum. You should both join the Masonic Catholic Brotherhood of Zion here. (I know, it doesn't yet exist, but when it does, the MCBZ will be the most powerful conspiracy the world has ever seen.)
Magick and Witchcraft
15-10-2007, 02:41
I'm a mix of different religions. Mostly Roman Catholic and Wicca.
Fassitude
15-10-2007, 02:55
And, in any case, we were referring to Pen and Paper games, blasphemer! :p

That's why you fail.
Deus Malum
15-10-2007, 03:07
That's why you fail.

Knowing that you're a Square-Enix fanboy, that really isn't all that insulting.
Kryozerkia
15-10-2007, 03:11
=D This place has colours! Yay! =D -snuggles meh usual dark green font- Anyway X3...

Enjoy the poll! I hope you get conclusive... information? -wonder why this poll was made- Was there a purpose or just to satisfy your curiousity?

To get information and to satisfy my curiosity. It was also to give the posters a better poll that wasn't limited in options. Not bad considering the character limit per line of the poll.
Deus Malum
15-10-2007, 03:14
To get information and to satisfy my curiosity. It was also to give the posters a better poll that wasn't limited in options. Not bad considering the character limit per line of the poll.

As appreciated as it is, given the alternative, I have to wonder why you'd bother.

We have a religion poll about once a month.
New Limacon
15-10-2007, 03:22
As appreciated as it is, given the alternative, I have to wonder why you'd bother.

We have a religion poll about once a month.

We should have a poll as to which is the best religion poll.
Bann-ed
15-10-2007, 03:24
We should have a poll as to which is the best religion poll.

We would need to have a poll to decide on that.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
15-10-2007, 04:32
There seems to be a large underground of Catholics here, I think we are the largest Christian denomination on this forum. You should both join the Masonic Catholic Brotherhood of Zion here. (I know, it doesn't yet exist, but when it does, the MCBZ will be the most powerful conspiracy the world has ever seen.)

Stands to reason because the RCC is the largest Christian denomination around. Oh, and Catholics are forbidden from joining masonic organizations. ;)
New Limacon
15-10-2007, 04:35
Stands to reason because the RCC is the largest Christian denomination around. Oh, and Catholics are forbidden from joining masonic organizations. ;)

Shh, that's why it's secret.

And your right, the Church is the largest in the world. I was thinking in the US, where...actually, it's the largest in the US, too, unless you count Protestantism as a single denomination. We're even more powerful than I thought!
Rotten bacon
15-10-2007, 05:02
chuck norris, mr.t, and the fonz

now thats a holy trinity
Risottia
15-10-2007, 11:23
*tries*
Natural 20! Ha!

Though, you might have +34 resistance to various forms of persecution.
*draws sword of Persecution +5*


I'm not very impressed... I play RoleMaster (d100)! ;)

Anyway, I wonder:

Israeli Jews, Saudi Muslims, Palestinian Christians count as "indigenous" or "abrahamic"? :confused: :D
Callisdrun
15-10-2007, 11:28
Pagan.
Ifreann
15-10-2007, 12:07
Best religion poll ever? Certainly appears to be.
Kryozerkia
15-10-2007, 12:59
As appreciated as it is, given the alternative, I have to wonder why you'd bother.

We have a religion poll about once a month.

I wanted to show how a good religion poll is done. It takes a bit of effort and research. I knew I would leave something out, so I tried to look up as many as I could and make my categories based on where a set of beliefs stems from.
CanuckHeaven
15-10-2007, 13:54
I wanted to show how a good religion poll is done. It takes a bit of effort and research. I knew I would leave something out, so I tried to look up as many as I could and make my categories based on where a set of beliefs stems from.
What does this poll really tell us though? That there are less NSG people believing in God than a year and a half ago? That most Christians don't post here anymore? How accurate is the poll? How many puppets vote in polls?

The most successful poll on religion?

Do you have faith in God (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=479090)?

583 pages and 8732 posts. Started by Ruffy way back on 23-04-2006.
Kryozerkia
15-10-2007, 13:59
What does this poll really tell us though? That there are less NSG people believing in God than a year and a half ago? That most Christians don't post here anymore? How accurate is the poll? How many puppets vote in polls?

The most successful poll on religion?

Do you have faith in God (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=479090)?

583 pages and 8732 posts. Started by Ruffy way back on 23-04-2006.

Ruffy's can easily contain puppets and plenty of posters that are no longer active here.

Ruffy's poll only seeks to find out what percentage of us are godless heathens and who is gay for God. ;) Mine is to find a better break down along the lines of faith or lack thereof.
Bottle
15-10-2007, 14:13
Sigh. Atheist and agnostic lumped in with deist.

Look, lack of belief in a deity is kind of a key freaking element of my belief system. It gets very tiring to see my beliefs constantly lumped together with belief systems that are fundamentally opposed to mine.
Cameroi
15-10-2007, 14:22
i believe there are all sorts of things no one knows a damd thing about and that no one needs to in order for them to do so.

i don't believe that any of the more powerful ones both know of our existence and simultaniously wish us any particular harm. i don't see how it would be very likely for our continued existence were that to be the case.

and i do believe, and feel i have myself experienced, something big, friendly and nontangable, that while it loves us and wishes us well, that may be where any resemblence between it, or anything, and what any organized belief claims to know about it, begins and ends.

i also feel very strongly the existence of lots of little, friendly and nontangable spirit critter-persons, many of whome love us and wish us well also. or again, at the very least, no particular harm.

i think they probably wish we'd stop tearing up their sacred countryside though.

=^^=
.../\...
Kryozerkia
15-10-2007, 14:28
Sigh. Atheist and agnostic lumped in with deist.

Look, lack of belief in a deity is kind of a key freaking element of my belief system. It gets very tiring to see my beliefs constantly lumped together with belief systems that are fundamentally opposed to mine.

There are only 10 poll options. If there were more, I'd have separated it but given the lack of extra space, I had to make do.
Deus Malum
15-10-2007, 14:31
There are only 10 poll options. If there were more, I'd have separated it but given the lack of extra space, I had to make do.

I would have, personally, lumped Deist in with non-religious Theist.
Bottle
15-10-2007, 14:36
There are only 10 poll options. If there were more, I'd have separated it but given the lack of extra space, I had to make do.
Sorry, but you separated Abrahamic religions from (for instance) Indian religions, even though they are MORE similar to one another than atheism is to deism.

It's just a poll, and it's not really that big a deal, it just annoys me because this same thing is done in most religion polls around here. It's not a new and better poll if you make the same old mistakes.
Bottle
15-10-2007, 14:37
I would have, personally, lumped Deist in with non-religious Theist.
Absolutely. That would have at least been somewhat valid in terms of a "category" of religious beliefs.
Extreme Ironing
15-10-2007, 15:55
I would have, personally, lumped Deist in with non-religious Theist.

I was just about to say this.

Agnostic atheist here.
Kryozerkia
15-10-2007, 15:58
Absolutely. That would have at least been somewhat valid in terms of a "category" of religious beliefs.

Deist to me seems to consider "God" to be irrelevant, so I thought it was closer to Agnostic, so I put it with it. Theist to me suggests that the person considered God to be important, even they don't ascribe to a religion.
Deus Malum
15-10-2007, 17:38
Deist to me seems to consider "God" to be irrelevant, so I thought it was closer to Agnostic, so I put it with it. Theist to me suggests that the person considered God to be important, even they don't ascribe to a religion.

Deism, iirc, is the belief in a supernatural entity responsible for the existence of the universe, but who has no involvement in, nor care for, the universe and/or humanity.

But that may be a flawed definition borne of poor understanding.

Edit: More to the point, the main objection to lumping agnostic/atheist with deist is this belief in supernatural entities. Which is why it is far closer to non-religious Theists than to either agnostics or atheists.

Double Edit: Hope that helps :)
South Lorenya
15-10-2007, 18:54
You forgot Poland, er Scientology.

Scientology qualifies as a Mock/Parody religion.
CanuckHeaven
15-10-2007, 19:47
Sigh. Atheist and agnostic lumped in with deist.

Look, lack of belief in a deity is kind of a key freaking element of my belief system. It gets very tiring to see my beliefs constantly lumped together with belief systems that are fundamentally opposed to mine.
I totally agree that Deist should not have been lumped in with atheist and agnostic. It and the other points you raise, totally skew this poll.

That plus the other points that have been raised.
Cyphernaught
15-10-2007, 19:50
I have a lvl 70 NE Druid in world of warcraft so I am for druidism.
Uturn
15-10-2007, 19:50
I don't follow a religion... but I am spiritually complex.

My beliefs are a mix of Atheism, Taoism and Paganism with several philosophical musings thrown in... so what would that be?
Lapalam
15-10-2007, 20:00
I don't follow a religion... but I am spiritually complex.

My beliefs are a mix of Atheism, Taoism and Paganism with several philosophical musings thrown in... so what would that be?

it could resamble my multi-pantheist way of thinking (in days i'll shape it better and let you read about it)
Iniika
15-10-2007, 20:07
I've decided to up myself from 'athiest' to 'undecided' so anyone with a religion they'd like to pander to me can go ahead. I just might chose the one which seems least retarded and least requiring me to actually do anything.
Kryozerkia
16-10-2007, 00:14
I've decided to up myself from 'athiest' to 'undecided' so anyone with a religion they'd like to pander to me can go ahead. I just might chose the one which seems least retarded and least requiring me to actually do anything.

Atheism is for the spiritually lazy. :) It's a comfortable niche, my friend. Come. Enjoy it; no work required.
The Rafe System
16-10-2007, 09:19
Egads,

i had that thought too!!! All the records of past work, in that field of study HAVE to have some similarities other then being subjective, yes? :(:confused:

Rafe
OOC

I'm somewhat agnostic, somewhat mystic. The problem is, I see mysticism and occultism as methods. If most occultists took a more scientific approach, I think there'd be advances...