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You can deal with the answer I just gave you. Or, you can use the search functions to find my previous answers. I have answered multiple times. They are not that much different.
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I have never declared -any of the several war genocides- a non event.

99k,1M,4M,6M 8M,20M,infiniteM do not question the existence or purposes.. any of these numbers do not question it.

Ok. Since you only seem to want to play games.....

Ok. Since you only seem to want to play games.....Its easy to tell when I am playing games.. Its when i put smilies.

We've debated that enough times here and we pretty much know what he meant which was....

he wants Israel destroyed and the fact that he believes that the holocaust is overhyped. Thanks though.



No we pretty much knows what was said. Thanks though for trying to rewrite speeches.


Well, if you watched the Colombia speech, he didn't say anything about destroying Israel OR denial that the nazi induced holocaust against Jews ANDAND others took place.
There were times when he seemed to purposely give a cocky response because Americans, such as prez of univer....colleges are such arrogant pricks.

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They are delusional too, but people believe it and I don't think they should be locked up.
That's because they're not.


That's because they're not.

because they're not what?
not locked up?

well, they are delusional if they believe Iraq had ANYTHING to do with attacks against the US (in 2001 sept, as implied by the Bush junta).
yet when asked directly of this, Bush admitted no such connection could be made.

Read your godforsaken links:

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...but Zionists have given much higher figures for how many people were killed...


That, schatzlein, is denial. There are two fundamental errors wrong with this statement: First, there is the problem of saying the holocaust was an event of not quite the severity that is believed by everyone, and second, that the only people who support the true account are zionists. Abject falsehood.


That particular quote is by some Rabi.
I wouldn't have given it an credence whatsoever if this had not been the case. Taken the quote out of context like this makes me look like a real jerk.
(which i may be, but not in the usual context of those that might talk about the subject at hand)

I don't think there is anything in there about the only people that support the usual mainstream accounts are Zionists. Unless I misread something, I apologize in advance.

All Zionists dead, because they follow a nazi ideology, not because of biological differences.

The National Sozialistische Bewegung is rather explicit in its exclusion of Jews, buddo.

Well, if you watched the Colombia speech, he didn't say anything about destroying Israel OR denial that the nazi induced holocaust against Jews ANDAND others took place.
There were times when he seemed to purposely give a cocky response because Americans, such as prez of univer....colleges are such arrogant pricks.

Wait? You only want his Columbian speech? Sorry but I did not watch that nor did I care to.

because they're not what?
not locked up?

Yep. NOt locked up.

well, they are delusional if they believe Iraq had ANYTHING to do with attacks against the US (in 2001 sept, as implied by the Bush junta).

First off all...there is no Junta in America. Last time I checked, the military is not in control of the country. As to the delusional part, no shit they are.

yet when asked directly of this, Bush admitted no such connection could be made.

That's nice.

That particular quote is by some Rabi.
I wouldn't have given it an credence whatsoever if this had not been the case.

Even given that this is the case, the argument has absolutely no credence. Just because he's Jewish doesn't make him an expert on the holocaust.

Taken the quote out of context like this makes me look like a real jerk.
(which i may be, but not in the usual context of those that might talk about the subject at hand)

This Rabbi whom you are quoting, is a member of a sect of Judaism known as Netuerei Karta, a group that is vehemently anti-Zionist on the grounds that without the Messiah's personal blessing, Jewish predominance in the land of Israel is illegitimate, and that the crimes of the last century were God's wrath: They're quite Phelpsian. But that's not the point, the guy you're quoting is an extreme even for this group. He's ueber-fringe in the ueber-fringe.

I don't think there is anything in there about the only people that support the usual mainstream accounts are Zionists. Unless I misread something, I apologize in advance.

Then you're clearly not doing a good job of dissecting his argument: He is arguing:

1.) The currently held numbers of dead Jews in the holocaust are incorrect.
2.) That this number has been artificially, and substantially, increased.
3.) That was done by a group he describes as "Zionists".
4.) So while not everyone who believes the mainstream accounts is a Zionist, everyone who believes the mainstream accounts believes "Zionist lies".

I mean, his argument relies on that most basic anti-semitic assumption: That the big, bad Jews are somehow controlling the world behind the scenes. Although, the fact that he is, himself, Jewish, would seem to belie this fact, I feel that self-hating in the Jewish community isn't entirely unheard of. After all, it's likely that even Adolph Hitler himself was 1/4 Jewish.

Furthermore, his viewpoint is so radical that it is rejected by the main body of the Netuerei Karta, as is evidenced by this public statement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta#Condemnation_by_main_branch_of_Neturei_Karta).