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Rogue Protoss
10-10-2007, 17:52
i'm wondering if you could run any country in the world the way you wanted which would you pick and how would you run it, me:
saudi arabia, i make it a more democratic place, and to get rid of unemployment i'd put all people not having jobs into the army, then i go on conquering spree...
Glorious Alpha Complex
10-10-2007, 18:15
It seems obvious which country needs it most: America.
First act: all the various criminals, traitors, and idiots profiting through government mismanagement of the war in Iraq, Katrina, and the military in general all go to jail. This includes Blackwater, Halliburton, Cheney for outing valorie plame, ect.

Second act: ask the Iraqi government when they'd like us to leave. then withdraw the troops at that time.

Third act: institute Universal health care, along with a massive program to educate Americans about their constitutionally guaranteed rights, and about managing their finances.

Fourth act: the right of gays to marry, adopt, and serve in the military are recognized throughout the country.

Fifth act: The criminals and corrupt bureaucrats in the FDA, the CIA, and other government agencies are fired, tried for their various crimes, and put in jail.

sixth act: America apologizes to the world for it's behavior in the last few years and promises to do better in the future. Barack Obama is elected president, with Hillary Clinton as his VP, and justices Thomas and Scalia retire for personal reasons.

Then I give up my ultimate, godlike power.
The Parkus Empire
10-10-2007, 18:18
i'm wondering if you could run any country in the world the way you wanted which would you pick and how would you run it, me:
saudi arabia, i make it a more democratic place, and to get rid of unemployment i'd put all people not having jobs into the army, then i go on conquering spree...

South Africa. I would reform it, then unify the whole Africa into a massive empire via conquest.
Ramastax
10-10-2007, 18:27
I'd probably take control of china.

First, i'd draft half of the adult population into the military. Then i'd focuson urbanisation of rural areas and reduction in poverty. Then i'd go on to take over the world (starting with the USA, purely for their nukes).
Kiryu-shi
10-10-2007, 18:31
Some tiny island country with less than 200 residents. We'd party. It'll be fun.
Yootopia
10-10-2007, 18:35
Zimbabwe. Because we know how much better it was under British rule, let's be honest.

*edits*

Nice to note that half of the posters here reckon that drafting masses of people into the army will somehow reduce the economic problems of those states. Yes. Nice one, guys.
Zaheran
10-10-2007, 18:41
I'd probably take control of china.

First, i'd draft half of the adult population into the military. Then i'd focuson urbanisation of rural areas and reduction in poverty. Then i'd go on to take over the world (starting with the USA, purely for their nukes).

If half your adult population were in the military, finding the workers for urbanisation would be pretty hard, wouldn´t it? And I wouldn´t bet on a reduction of poverty, because your economy would crash in about a week. And starting with taking over the USA wouldn´t be a smart idea. There is actually a very big ocean between China and the US. That means that you would have to choose between a logistically impossible amphibious assault across the sea or a marsch through Russia. Nobody have ever suceeded in defeating Russia. And if you eventually defeat Russia, the rest of the world has mobilized and is going to crush you.
Rogue Protoss
10-10-2007, 19:02
If half your adult population were in the military, finding the workers for urbanisation would be pretty hard, wouldn´t it? And I wouldn´t bet on a reduction of poverty, because your economy would crash in about a week. And starting with taking over the USA wouldn´t be a smart idea. There is actually a very big ocean between China and the US. That means that you would have to choose between a logistically impossible amphibious assault across the sea or a marsch through Russia. Nobody have ever suceeded in defeating Russia. And if you eventually defeat Russia, the rest of the world has mobilized and is going to crush you.

ok more specifically what i will do:
employ all people without jobs half into industry and half into the army then do like the goverment of arabia but more democratic and then invade iraq and iran
Lunatic Goofballs
10-10-2007, 19:11
Vatican City.

I think we all know exactly where I'm going with this...

:D
Zaheran
10-10-2007, 19:19
I pick USA. I just nuke Russia and China and hide in a bunker for 50 years. Then I take control over what´s left [insert evil laughter here]. :D
Kryozerkia
10-10-2007, 19:22
I'd take Canada. We need legalised pot.
Glorious Alpha Complex
10-10-2007, 19:25
Zimbabwe. Because we know how much better it was under British rule, let's be honest.

*edits*

Nice to note that half of the posters here reckon that drafting masses of people into the army will somehow reduce the economic problems of those states. Yes. Nice one, guys.

But it worked so well in North Korea! [/sarcasm]
EchoVect
10-10-2007, 21:57
Interesting excersize, and why I like the concept of the game.

I can't think of a better country than the one I live in, the USA.

I would start by cleaning house at the legislature insofar as laws that violate the Tenth Amendment. The powers and responsibilities granted to the Federal Government are damn few and far between, by design, and we wouldn't need a multi-trillion dollar boondoggle of a budget, replete with all of the attendant unavoidable corruption inherent in such a beast if the Fed was constrained properly.

It would be nice if the States would make civics, American history, the Founding documents and a coherent study of the rights granted by the Constitution mandatory educational issues, and I would encourage them to do so, but it is not the place of the Fed to mandate via Federal Law how the individual States carry out their educational policies.

I would urge the education of Jurors to the immense power they wield in the jury box instead of the current policy of purposely NOT telling them. They alone hold the power to nullify unjust law, whether real or percieved, and this power has been upheld at every challenge. With this power comes immense responsibility, and they need to understand that every time they decide some fool should win the tort lottery for idiotic behaviour and poor personal decisions, they are only hurting themselves.

I would facilitate free, unrestricted and open trade with other nations. I would tarriff foreign goods at the same comparable rate as we are tarriffed. There would be no artificial price supports for any goods or services.

I would do away with the attempts at forcibly spreading democracy. you can not force freedom on people. If they want it, they will attain it just as we did. That which is earned is valued much more highly than that which is gained by gift.

Welfare would be returned to what it was originally intended to be. People able to work would be required to work, not just given a handout. There is plenty that they can do. That would result in more funds available for those who truly need the assistance.

The States would, by default, be in competition with each other as far as social services are concerned. This is the American way. Open competition naturally breeds better services and success. The better a State treats their people, the larger their taxable base becomes. The states will be influenced to adopt laws and policies based on peer pressure, rather than forced to do so by the gun of the Federal Government.

I would insist on nothing less than a "Manhattan Project" level effort to make this great nation self sufficient when it comes to energy. We can no longer be held hostage by other countries on matters of National Security, of which energy plays an enormous role.

I would find ways to encourage and recognize invention, originality, entrepreneurs and academic achievement in general so that we might retake our place on the worlds stage as the preeminent source of new technology and advances instead of languishing as simply a consumer and service-oriented second place has-been.

Farcical nonsense such as the ridiculous concept of "hate speech" would be relegated to the dust bin. The First Amendment would be re-elevated to its rightful place. Words are simply that, words, and have no more effect that that allowed by the audience. If someone chooses to be offended, that is their prerogative. So what? I find it amusing that those who insist so strongly on "Political Correctness" are often the first and loudest to call the President everything but a free white man. The hypocrasy would end, post haste. Open criticism and derision of others, as so adeptly practised by the Left against the current government is just as valid when directed back at them, and should be protected regardless of the target. When it becomes legislated that this, that or the other group is beyond name calling, it is only a short step before the Government demands, by the same gun barrel, the same protection, and that is one Right that can NOT be compromised for ANY reason. We SHOULD have the right to call teh President an idiot if that is our opinion. That same logic insists that we be allowed to call each other whatever we wish without fear of legal reprisal. You can not have it both ways.

Foriegn policy would be a hands-off affair. We have no place telling another soverign nation how to conduct their internal affairs. We can choose to simply not do business with them. That requires, of course, much of the preceeding to be fervently implemented so that we once again become the nation with which others desire to do business.

Armed conflict would be a last, regrettable resort. It would also be swift and decisive, with the military leaders allowed to accomplish their goals without hinderance and manipulation from political parties. If Congress is sure enough about a situation to authorize the force of arms, they should be sure enough about the military leaders to stay the hell out of the way and let the soldiers do what they have been trained to do. If the enemy decides to chuck the Geneva Convention and fight from Churches and Mosques, they will have given our men and women implicit approval to level the damn things to eliminate them.

"Leaking" official State secrets, war plans, etc. will be treated as the Treasonous acts that they are by definition, and those caught doing so will be executed as provided by law. The same would go for those who authorize publication of such items in the media. If the media had done in 1944 what it is doing today, we would have lost millions of more men and most likely the war, and I shudder to think of what Europe would look like.

Finally, for now anyway, things like Gay Marriage, Abortion, healthcare, etc. would all be relegated back to where they belong.....the States. These are things that the Federal Government has no authority getting involved in. It is not California's place to dictate to New Hampshire social policy, and that is precisely what happens when the Fed gets involved in such matters. Constitutional Amendments to such matters should be the ONLY way such matters are to be dealt with, as was the slavery issue, not by bought-and-paid-for delegates doing back room deals in the houses of Congress.

That ought to be a fairly decent start on the road to recovery for this country, IMHO.
Jenrak
10-10-2007, 21:58
Nobody have ever suceeded in defeating Russia. And if you eventually defeat Russia, the rest of the world has mobilized and is going to crush you.

Japan did.
New Manvir
10-10-2007, 22:00
I'll take any country in the third world world...

Misappropriate and embezzle funds....

flee to Switzerland under the alias Joe Kickass

Who wants the responsibility of running a country when you could just be rich and party...


:D :D :D
Uturn
10-10-2007, 22:45
South Africa. I would reform it, then unify the whole Africa into a massive empire via conquest.

*scared*
Just how would you reform us?

I would totally take Zimbabwe, cause lets face it: who wouldn't be better than Mugabe?
Yootopia
10-10-2007, 22:58
Japan did.
Aye, then the USSR totally beat Japan back, with a 10:1 kill ratio, too.
Posi
10-10-2007, 23:41
North Korea. The amount of indoctrination the people are under may make things difficult at times, but there is no way in hell I would be able to leave it worse than it already is.
Zaheran
11-10-2007, 14:19
Japan did.

I meaned defeat as in succesfully taking over a country. The Japanese just defended themselves. No army have ever suceeding in invading Russia.
Ifreann
11-10-2007, 14:27
Sealand. I'd sell it to America.
Masalasaya
11-10-2007, 14:28
I'd take norway. just to slap the government silly and tell them that since people voted to NOT join the EU, they don't want to follow every rule EU makes.
And I'd make a law that says that if they prime minister doesn't do what he promised before election, he will lose all his money and property and never get to work in politics again...

More money for students (they are our future you know)
Then I would make alcohol 50% cheaper and get really really drunk ;)
Brutland and Norden
11-10-2007, 14:51
liechtenstein. I hear they've got lots of gold there, and it's a good place to launder money and clothes.
Maraque
11-10-2007, 14:53
I wouldn't take a country.

I'd take a region, or regions, of a state.

For example:

I'd take New York (city), all of Long Island (Kings, Queens, Nassau and Suffolk counties), Staten Island, the Bronx, and all of Westchester county.

I'd enact a socialized health care system as well as abolish income taxes while raising sales taxes on non-essential goods to 20%. I would put the minimum wage at $8 and raise it according to inflation yearly, and I'd impose a tariff on imported goods to 3%.

I'd also have open borders and allow immigrants into the country, where they shall not be deemed illegal. I'd also require that any workers, legal or otherwise, be paid the same wages as their counterparts, and that every new home being built from 2008 on must be on at the very least 1/2 of an acre, and that they must be energy efficient and green.

As well, I'd require all cars sold in my micro-nation to have diesel counterparts, as well as impose a one large SUV per family rule, and put a 15% tax on large and full size SUVs that consume less than 20 miles per gallon.

I'm still brain storming, so I may update.
Icelove The Carnal
11-10-2007, 15:38
I want Italy!
This is an extract from my first laws after I have been raised to power *_^.

Judges shall have no political power any more. The proposal of a Judge or Juridical Party shall be considered anti constitutional, and therefore illegal. (It’s already against the Constitution, but no one cares about this. Years ago there was, effectively, such a proposal).

Although mafia and crime shall go on to be fought thorough instruction and education, the Army will guard particularly dangerous locations.

Unworthy politicians shall be banned from their seat. This resolution shall involve absentee politicians and/or any politician whom will be found inactive for what concerns their duties towards the State.

A similar resolution shall be applied against syndacalists not working properly for members of their Syndicate.

Blue cars shall be reduced to a maximal of 60.000. (They are over 570.000, right now.)

Bureaucracy shall be set under the judgement of a Commission. This Commission shall verify true utility of bureaucracy, at any level which is under direct care from the State (which means, private bureaucracy shall not be judged), and cut it off where unnecessary.

Political Parties shall have a maximal expense set per year for political campaigns. This expense shall be paid by the State, and determined after a preliminary vote, and set accordingly to voted Parties.

A Commission shall verify necessity of politicians’ privileges. Each unnecessary privilege shall be lost.

The number of politicians shall be cut, and so it shall be for attendants et similia.

Minimal productivity of workers shall be reconsidered for what concerns Syndacal laws.

Environmental conservation shall become a priority. Limits shall be applied (there are limits to smog and so on, but they are not respected right now). Public corporations shall not gain from production of waste.

Public transport service shall be increased and bettered. South movement problem shall be resolved. Private transport shall be penalized, at least for what concerns with populated areas.

Tourism shall return to be a priority. There shall be qualification courses to be employed in tourism context.

Anyone who acts in racist ways shall be persecuted. Any apology of Fascism or Nazism shall be persecuted. (these laws already exist, but they are not fully applied.)

I think I will find other things later…
Killer Coughs
11-10-2007, 16:27
Luxemburg. It's like Andorra with money. And flatter. And conveniently located.
Forsakia
11-10-2007, 17:00
Wales, plus a minor improvement. (http://www.sabrain.co.uk/userImages/jpg/Caribbean.jpg)
Risottia
11-10-2007, 17:18
It seems obvious which country needs it most: America.
First act: all the various criminals, traitors, and idiots profiting through government mismanagement of the war in Iraq, Katrina, and the military in general all go to jail. This includes Blackwater, Halliburton, Cheney for outing valorie plame, ect.

Second act: ask the Iraqi government when they'd like us to leave. then withdraw the troops at that time.

Third act: institute Universal health care, along with a massive program to educate Americans about their constitutionally guaranteed rights, and about managing their finances.

Fourth act: the right of gays to marry, adopt, and serve in the military are recognized throughout the country.

Fifth act: The criminals and corrupt bureaucrats in the FDA, the CIA, and other government agencies are fired, tried for their various crimes, and put in jail.

sixth act: America apologizes to the world for it's behavior in the last few years and promises to do better in the future. Barack Obama is elected president, with Hillary Clinton as his VP, and justices Thomas and Scalia retire for personal reasons.

Then I give up my ultimate, godlike power.

Heh, good luck. My guess is that you'll have to run for your life to escape the gun-toting rabble somewhere between n.1 and n.2 . I'll offer you political asylum, if you wish.

Anyway, I'm trying to get into ruling Regione Lombardia, and it's difficult enough.:(
The Parkus Empire
11-10-2007, 17:54
*scared*
Just how would you reform us?


Not the people. :p

I mean the corruption, and crime. Then, any time a nation over-there had a civil war I would side with the rebels using my new state's army. I would ban pillaging of the enemy (it totally devalues the country, not cool). After the war I would calmly inform them that I was the new head of state. I would ruthlessly assassinate any and all enemies. Then, I would start turning various corrupted governments into proper ones. Of course, it would be easy to be popular...temporary. The trick would be to remain popular, which I might just be able to do if I carry along a copy of Discourses on the First Ten Books of Titus Livy.
Upper Botswavia
11-10-2007, 18:07
Monaco. Great location, nice climate, lots of tourist money coming in... Monte Carlo is a big party town and all this in only 485 acres of land, most of it beachfront property. At 45, Monaco's average age is the highest in the world, so there would be plenty of time to enjoy it. And the flag of Monaco is identical to that of Indonesia except for the ratio of height to width (which is not really a big selling point but is kind of an interesting fact).

Probably wouldn't do much to change it... maybe ease off of Catholicism being the official religion, but since there freedom of religion guaranteed in the constitution, it would not be a huge issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco
Thracedon
11-10-2007, 18:18
South Africa. I would reform it, then unify the whole Africa into a massive empire via conquest.


Amen to that... my thoughts exactly.

To elaborate:

If I had god-like control over South Africa, I'd:

1.) Abolish B.E.E (Black Economic Empowerment)- jobs go to those with the right qualifications, not the right skin colour

2.) Offer huge incentives for emigrants to return to the country

3.) Fire 99% of the cabinet (actually, they'd probably be the first to go)

4.) Cut down on government salaries and give more money to the police- they need it

5.) reinstate the death penalty, and purposefully overcrowd prisons. Lawbreakers must SUFFER

6.) Start mining uranium again

7.) Build more nuclear power stations

8.) Sell excess uranium to the highest bidder

9.) Have Jacob Zuma executed

10.) Declare Zimbabwe a "protectorate", march in, assassinate Mugabe, and take over the country
The Parkus Empire
11-10-2007, 18:34
Amen to that... my thoughts exactly.

To elaborate:

If I had god-like control over South Africa, I'd:

1.) Abolish B.E.E (Black Economic Empowerment)- jobs go to those with the right qualifications, not the right skin colour

2.) Offer huge incentives for emigrants to return to the country

3.) Fire 99% of the cabinet (actually, they'd probably be the first to go)

4.) Cut down on government salaries and give more money to the police- they need it

5.) reinstate the death penalty, and purposefully overcrowd prisons. Lawbreakers must SUFFER

6.) Start mining uranium again

7.) Build more nuclear power stations

8.) Sell excess uranium to the highest bidder

9.) Have Jacob Zuma executed

10.) Declare Zimbabwe a "protectorate", march in, assassinate Mugabe, and take over the country

A sound plan.
Rogue Protoss
11-10-2007, 20:17
Amen to that... my thoughts exactly.

To elaborate:

If I had god-like control over South Africa, I'd:

1.) Abolish B.E.E (Black Economic Empowerment)- jobs go to those with the right qualifications, not the right skin colour

2.) Offer huge incentives for emigrants to return to the country

3.) Fire 99% of the cabinet (actually, they'd probably be the first to go)

4.) Cut down on government salaries and give more money to the police- they need it

5.) reinstate the death penalty, and purposefully overcrowd prisons. Lawbreakers must SUFFER

6.) Start mining uranium again

7.) Build more nuclear power stations

8.) Sell excess uranium to the highest bidder

9.) Have Jacob Zuma executed

10.) Declare Zimbabwe a "protectorate", march in, assassinate Mugabe, and take over the country

as the leader of the middleast i welcome you and hope to by uranium to fire icbms at D.C
Lord Raug
11-10-2007, 20:33
I would take the US.

1. Fire the entire govt.

2. Reelect the house and senate. After placing some new election laws, The first being anyone who went to law school can not run for office. The second being all elections are govt. funded, helping to prevent the influence of special interest groups. The final one being the destruction of political parties.

3. Withdraw US forces from around the world. And offer anyone who wants US military protection the option of hiring the US military as Mercenaries. (I plan on making money for my troops services.)

4. Reorganize the entire education system with encouragement on science and technology. As well as making trade schools a serious option instead of college.

5. Focus on strengthening the economy.

6. Cut spending and decrease debt.

7. Get the religion out of the govt. It's not the govt. job to legislate who can or can't get married, whether a woman can get an abortion, nor should the govt. have the right to decide whether or not assisted suicide is ok.

8. Make amends with the rest of the world.
Lame Bums
11-10-2007, 21:42
i'm wondering if you could run any country in the world the way you wanted which would you pick and how would you run it, me:
saudi arabia, i make it a more democratic place, and to get rid of unemployment i'd put all people not having jobs into the army, then i go on conquering spree...

USA. But I'd have to go through several steps.

1 - Executive order: the power of the legislature and more important the judiciary must be reduced to zero.

2 - Deport all illegal immigrants. I don't care about the sob stories. They're committing a felony offense by being here illegally.

3 - Make Spanish illegal. No children born to illegals will be granted citizenship.

4 - Re-introduce capital punishment - death by hanging, preferably. I would use it for murder, child rape, treason, and other heinous crimes, especially against the State. Firing squad for military (if with honor).

5 - Diagnose socialist/communist ideologues as mentally disordered and deal with them appropriately.

6 - End all rehab programs. The goal of the justice system is punishment for crimes, not rehabilitation. Rehab just leads to repeat offenders.

7 - Re-enact the draft. Every man out of high school serves at least two years in the armed services.
7a - Increase defense spending. Get the money by pulling out of Iraq and cutting entitlements (Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and welfare).

8 - Create re-education camps. They will serve two purposes: a) those diagnosed as mentally diseased and b) drug addicts. We will attempt to fix the mentally diseased. Drug addicts...well, we'll supply the drugs, they can have all they want but they have to stay in camp. Eventually they will all die from OD'ing.

9 - Launch an active worldwide military campaign to crush the forces of international socialism once and for all. First target is Hugo Chavez.


I came up with this realizing that the greatest threat to all human dignity is the threat of international socialism. It is the mightiest counterpart to the rightful, upstanding, honorable human being. We, as Americans, must be concerned not only about international forces (Chavez, Castro, Putin, etc.) but more importantly subversion from within. Subversion by dissenters within a nation is the single most disabling factor in any nation's security and sovereignty. This was proven in Russia in 1917 as the tsarist armies collapsed, it was again proven barely a year later with the November Criminals took over the German Empire forcing an end to the First World War and the subsequent Treaty of Versailles, which invariably precipitated the rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis to power, triggering another war causing the deaths of sixty million people.

This was again proven in South Vietnam a short while later, with the rise of the Vietcong in the Republic of South Vietnam. The resulting guerrilla actions culminated in the Tet offensive of 1968 which was in fact a decisive victory for the American forces, but was portrayed in an actively anti-American media as a loss, with Vietcong forces barricading themselves inside the US embassy. The resulting anti-war movement at home facilitated the collapse of the Johnson administration and America's first true loss in a war. As South Vietnam fell in 1975, the most gripping images from the scene include dozens of people hanging onto helicopters and overloaded transport planes, desperately trying to get away from the clutches and repressive governments of international Socialism.

Other notable cases of people fleeing from Socialism include East Germany late in the war as throughout the Cold War, Cuba after Castro took over with boatloads of refugees arriving in Florida, the "boat people" from South Vietnam going who-knows-where, and more recently a wave of immigrants from Venezuela - the people who are getting out while they still can. We as rightful human beings must combat these forces of international Socialism anywhere and everywhere they stand. First we must do whatever is necessary to crush all Socialism within our great nation, and then we must actively take the fight to Socialists across the world. We must make it clear that the forces of freedom, dignity, and sanity are on the march again, and we are not taking another step backwards.
Detayla
11-10-2007, 22:05
UK

It's a great country, but has so much friggin' potential.

1. Holds that everybody is born one and the same, everyone cries and laughs, is happy and sad. As humans being, therefore equal as a person, or citizen to the nation.
a. Everyone ought to make a compulsory contribution to the state, despite class, racial or financial background and situations.
b. Only those who are physically or mentally prohibited should be excused from duties. Due to their nature, society must do their best to support them.

2. Service and Duty.
a. 24% flat taxation rate.
b. Benefit to those who truly need it
i. Single parents with children out of full time education
ii. Disabled allowed jobseekers allowance
iii. For others, jobseekers allowance is restricted to a year.
c. Compulsary military service to over 18s. Required to be trained in defence of the country, but will never be conscripted to fight in foreign lands, unless volunteered.

3. Education
a. Abolition of entry exam requirements into all schools. (11/13+)
b. Annual aptitude tests to show weak spots in curriculum or individual schools.
c. For university students, removal of school names from all UCAS applications to enable an equal chance of entrance.
4. NHS

a. Funding to be allocated to trusts on a weekly amount based on an average annual cost of a patient throughout the NHS, including GPs, prescriptions and care etc.
b. Free prescriptions for all UK citizens
c. Alcohol and cigarette tax to be directly proportionate to cost on the NHS and Police time.
5. Voting

a. Strong belief in FPTP, representation to rise the further the power is devolved (i.e. STV in Local Parliaments and Assemblies)
b. A review on lowering voting age to 16. Based on the principle of that 16 year olds are capable of being fully taxed, therefore based on the principle of “no taxation without representation”.

6. Devolution
a. A parliament for england and one for Wales, to be granted power to legislate wherever British Parliament has not.

7. Drugs
a. Drugs undermine society by altering a person’s inhibition, to extremes of crime and theft, and criminal association.
b. Removals of class system, all drugs bear the same class system to reinforce no tolerance policy on drugs.

8. Justice
a. Re-offence seen as big weakness in justice system. Therefore a scheme of points will be established in which the judge may impose a levy on points alongside an offence. The higher the points, the higher the sentence. Every offence adds points to ones a convict has already received in the last ten years.

Example:

Offence 1: Speeding. Fine and points off of license -
Offence 2: DUI +
Offence 3: Drug Possession ‡
Offence 4: Assualt +15. 15 points and eight years.

Democratic Socialism by the way :P
Yootopia
11-10-2007, 22:44
USA. But I'd have to go through several steps.

1 - Executive order: the power of the legislature and more important the judiciary must be reduced to zero.

2 - Deport all illegal immigrants. I don't care about the sob stories. They're committing a felony offense by being here illegally.

3 - Make Spanish illegal. No children born to illegals will be granted citizenship.

4 - Re-introduce capital punishment - death by hanging, preferably. I would use it for murder, child rape, treason, and other heinous crimes, especially against the State. Firing squad for military (if with honor).

5 - Diagnose socialist/communist ideologues as mentally disordered and deal with them appropriately.

6 - End all rehab programs. The goal of the justice system is punishment for crimes, not rehabilitation. Rehab just leads to repeat offenders.

7 - Re-enact the draft. Every man out of high school serves at least two years in the armed services.
7a - Increase defense spending. Get the money by pulling out of Iraq and cutting entitlements (Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and welfare).

8 - Create re-education camps. They will serve two purposes: a) those diagnosed as mentally diseased and b) drug addicts. We will attempt to fix the mentally diseased. Drug addicts...well, we'll supply the drugs, they can have all they want but they have to stay in camp. Eventually they will all die from OD'ing.

9 - Launch an active worldwide military campaign to crush the forces of international socialism once and for all. First target is Hugo Chavez.


I came up with this realizing that the greatest threat to all human dignity is the threat of international socialism. It is the mightiest counterpart to the rightful, upstanding, honorable human being. We, as Americans, must be concerned not only about international forces (Chavez, Castro, Putin, etc.) but more importantly subversion from within. Subversion by dissenters within a nation is the single most disabling factor in any nation's security and sovereignty. This was proven in Russia in 1917 as the tsarist armies collapsed, it was again proven barely a year later with the November Criminals took over the German Empire forcing an end to the First World War and the subsequent Treaty of Versailles, which invariably precipitated the rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis to power, triggering another war causing the deaths of sixty million people.

This was again proven in South Vietnam a short while later, with the rise of the Vietcong in the Republic of South Vietnam. The resulting guerrilla actions culminated in the Tet offensive of 1968 which was in fact a decisive victory for the American forces, but was portrayed in an actively anti-American media as a loss, with Vietcong forces barricading themselves inside the US embassy. The resulting anti-war movement at home facilitated the collapse of the Johnson administration and America's first true loss in a war. As South Vietnam fell in 1975, the most gripping images from the scene include dozens of people hanging onto helicopters and overloaded transport planes, desperately trying to get away from the clutches and repressive governments of international Socialism.

Other notable cases of people fleeing from Socialism include East Germany late in the war as throughout the Cold War, Cuba after Castro took over with boatloads of refugees arriving in Florida, the "boat people" from South Vietnam going who-knows-where, and more recently a wave of immigrants from Venezuela - the people who are getting out while they still can. We as rightful human beings must combat these forces of international Socialism anywhere and everywhere they stand. First we must do whatever is necessary to crush all Socialism within our great nation, and then we must actively take the fight to Socialists across the world. We must make it clear that the forces of freedom, dignity, and sanity are on the march again, and we are not taking another step backwards.
I sneer at your pitiful existance.
Ultraviolent Radiation
11-10-2007, 22:52
The UK.

My priority would be education, but that would be more than just job skills - things like ethics, manners, critical thinking, etc. would be a part.

The 'yob' would become a historical footnote.

People would be allowed to defend themselves against crime, and sentences for violent and sexual crimes would be increased significantly.

I could think of more, but that'll do for now.
Librazia
12-10-2007, 00:33
I would take over Canada, because it is my country. Drastic changes would be made.
1) Eliminate the office of Governor General, we don't need someone who represents the British monarchy to sign all of our laws and waste tax money on parties and trips
2) Make the senate elected, or eliminate it all together. We don't need another unelected office with near lifelong terms to wasted money. They just rubber stamp every bill that comes by anyways. The one time they tried to stop something being passed, the Prime Minister invoked his power to temporarily replace some senators, and got the bill passed. Useless
3) Heavy changes to the constitution and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The first clause in the charter would be the first to go. It says something along the lines of rights being limited if it demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. I would also add the right to own property, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms. The new constitution and charter would be heavily influenced by the American ones.
4) Also to be added to the constitution, severe limits on the federal government. Power would be shifted down to the provinces.
5) Eliminate all federal laws no longer compliant with the new constitution and charter. These would include gun control and making the provinces provide health care
6) End income tax.
Layarteb
12-10-2007, 00:59
USA and give her some of her balls back!

1. secure the border and enforce the actual immigration laws
2. fire all legislatures immediately and start fresh
3. remove us from Iraq but with a solution that benefits all and not just one
4. kick pc out the door and end this nonsense to become a nanny-state
5. stop extending the debt ceiling and start bringing us out of the red
6. reform education by letting the educators educate and not the legislature
7. end welfare
8. put murderers and rapists and child molestors behind bars for good or execute them

that's just a few things to start with but it would extend outward.
[NS]Fergi America
12-10-2007, 10:31
North Korea! It wouldn't take much to be seen as the Greatest Leader Ever there, considering how bad their actual government is doing!

Sneakily assassinate all of their current government and replace it with mine.

Put out propaganda that says I'm the anointed successor to Kim Jong Il, so instead of having to fight the personality cult that's already there, I can benefit from it.

Once the people are sufficiently "educated" (read: indoctrinated) in the above, announce the "unfortunate passing" of Dear Leader Kim (which would have actually happened months before), and the ascension of "Greatest Leader Ever" (ME)!

Stop the famine: Appropriate enough farmland (from whatever they're using it for now) to actually feed everybody with the produce from it, and get it into the hands of competent farmers. If there's a drought interfering with production, redirect some money from their over-large military budget and set up irrigation.

Improve food production so much that we (NK) can ship out food aid instead of receiving it (and sell food to the richer countries)--without taking food out of the mouths of our own citizens.

Work out trade agreements with South Korea, the US, Japan, and any other place that's got money and a willingness to buy stuff.

Get lots of businesses going! Private businesses of course; none of this communism stuff. Become the next Cheap Labor Source. (What the 1st World calls "cheap," the poor peasants of NK would think of as unimaginable wealth, compared to the destitution they endured before my takeover!). Make sure that all the new businesspeople are educated in how to do honest business, so the country doesn't get overrun with mobsters, bootleggers, people who think little lead toys are good, and the like.

Sell to all of the previously-mentioned nations from 2 paragraphs up--BUT, be careful not to let any 1 or 2 of them get enough economic clout with N. Korea to start throwing their weight around. Keep a few missiles aimed in the general direction of the US, since the US is so well-known for butting into things...and not so well-known for butting in when the other country is well-armed.

Other than the trade, stay diplomatically reclusive. Other nations can keep their noses in their own business! They won't like it, but tough. If they want the cheap labor/products, they'll have to put up with it. And if they don't want the cheap labor and/or products, and put an embargo on me, oh well--my economists will make sure my country has a "Plan B" for economic strength that doesn't compromise my sovereignty.

Improve infrastructure where needed.

Improve treatment of the handicapped, which from what I understand, sucks there now.

Improve treatment of the people in general (keeping in mind that it IS still a dictatorship), eliminate arbitrariness from the legal system, crack down on corruption, fire incompetents from the government...basically fix the stuff that's usually wrong with a country where the previous dictator sucked badly.

Keep those Mass Games running. That seems like it'd be very cool to watch. I wouldn't draft people to partake, but would encourage all athletic-types to do so, through the use of positive propaganda. Non-athletic types wouldn't have to worry, since the Greatest Leader Ever isn't athletic, and therefore will not dream of punishing someone for being the same way.

It seems that forced migrations happen under Kim. Take the opportunity to do it one last time before the people get accustomed to better treatment, and set up/disband towns where I think it'd be strategic to do so. Then let the people stay where they are. After 10 years, they can move wherever in the country they want (figuring that after that long, most will have gotten comfy enough to stay put).

Emigration from the country itself would be illegal for 15 years--I insist that the people give me a real chance and not just immediately leave me as the Dictator of Nothing But Vacant Land. If they still think the place sucks after the 15 years, then I guess they can go...but really I'd expect that things would be rolling along quite good by then and they'd stay!

Keep a big army, big enough to defend the country, but not ridiculously big.

Dissidents who pose even a remote chance of actually being a threat will be executed. Hey. It's still a dictatorship.

Allow the people to have real radios (ones that can pick up all channels), and newspapers, but not TV. I'll have no idiot-box-addled people in my country, thank you!! If someone does get ahold of a TV, it'll be confiscated and violently trashed with an ax, in sight of the offender.

All media content would have to get a license in order to air/be printed. Unlike regular censorship, the most-censored thing would be IDIOTIC programming/articles! Anything that has the mentality of an 8th-grader, that isn't actually aimed at 8th-graders, would not pass.

It would also be illegal to broadcast/print "half the story" in order to slant it. No saying something like, "Dictator throws 800 old people out of apartment complex!!" without also mentioning the relevant fact of, "Because the building was ready to fall down at any second and crush them all!!" (Assuming that was the relevant fact.)

TRUE AND UNSLANTED reporting, subject to the above requirement, would generally be exempt from the anti-dissident laws. I have to know wtf is really going on out there somehow, and government officials are notoriously bad at letting the Leader know the real scenario. On the other hand, if someone decides that it'd be a good idea to print some British tabloid-like crud ("Dictator Seen Nude on Beach!! Pix inside!!!")...they should expect a one-way ride in a black sedan, regardless of its factual basis.

And, any program/newspaper which printed something like "So-and-So was charged with..." without printing the outcome of the trial once it was known, would be fined the equivalent of $100,000. If that puts them out of business, tough. They should have thought of that before deciding that the final outcome of the story wasn't important. (It's a real pet peeve of mine when the [US] news does that!!)

Lower the illiteracy rate, which is probably rampant there (although I'm sure official figures deny that). Also, make sure good schools are available. Lots of dictators like the peasants to be dumb and ignorant. I am not one of them. I'll take the risks of revolt which come with a smarter populace, rather than endure a sea of stupidity.

Avoid accepting any money from the World Bank/IMF, because from what I understand, they want to impose their will on their debtors. Also because it seems that following their will tends to end up with the debtor nation getting totally screwed up!

Fix other problems that aren't big enough to have hit the international radar (at least not without lots of scouring around for obscure sources), and which may therefore come as a surprise.
Risottia
12-10-2007, 11:06
I want Italy!
Judges shall have no political power any more. The proposal of a Judge or Juridical Party shall be considered anti constitutional, and therefore illegal. (It’s already against the Constitution, but no one cares about this. Years ago there was, effectively, such a proposal).
Judges already don't have any political power, nor are they allowed to join a political party.

Unworthy politicians shall be banned from their seat. This resolution shall involve absentee politicians and/or any politician whom will be found inactive for what concerns their duties towards the State.
A similar resolution shall be applied against syndacalists not working properly for members of their Syndicate.

Pray, who will rule wheter politicians are worthy or not, or syndacalists not working properly for members of their workers' union? A political commission I guess...

Bureaucracy shall be set under the judgement of a Commission. This Commission shall verify true utility of bureaucracy, at any level which is under direct care from the State (which means, private bureaucracy shall not be judged), and cut it off where unnecessary.
A Commission shall verify necessity of politicians’ privileges. Each unnecessary privilege shall be lost.

And the commission will be named by whom?


Public corporations shall not gain from production of waste.
While private corporations will, I guess...

Meh, my two cents.
Hamilay
12-10-2007, 12:00
Russia, so I can invade NATO.

Just because.

I was about to say "Russia, so I can rebuild the military and the economy, bring the Soviet Union back and rule my own superpower with an iron fist." but then I realised someone was already trying that. ;)
Thracedon
12-10-2007, 12:33
as the leader of the middleast i welcome you and hope to by uranium to fire icbms at D.C

You're welcome to it, those damn imperialist scum need a taste of their own medicine
Rogue Protoss
12-10-2007, 13:52
You're welcome to it, those damn imperialist scum need a taste of their own medicine

i know right!
first is turkey
then...
greece
italy
spain
france
germany
UK
norwy
sweden
USA
canada
mexico
brasil
china
korea
japan
india
russia
and finally i would invade isreal
Uturn
12-10-2007, 14:32
Not the people. :p

I mean the corruption, and crime. Then, any time a nation over-there had a civil war I would side with the rebels using my new state's army. I would ban pillaging of the enemy (it totally devalues the country, not cool). After the war I would calmly inform them that I was the new head of state. I would ruthlessly assassinate any and all enemies. Then, I would start turning various corrupted governments into proper ones. Of course, it would be easy to be popular...temporary. The trick would be to remain popular, which I might just be able to do if I carry along a copy of Discourses on the First Ten Books of Titus Livy.

You're a sucker for punishment aren't you?
So you're going to fire everyone except Helen Zille and Trevor Manuel.
Then you're going to hire them back as a police force... except half of them will be the police force you fired in step one... right.
Or will you be putting all the unemployed into the army instead and using that to combat crime when you're not supporting rebels? Where these angry people that you fired now have access to weapons... ok, gotcha.
As for your popularity you should just make ridiculous promises of free cars and houses, that seems to work. Carrying a book isn't going to help when half the population can't read and the other half won't know what "Discourses on the First Ten Books of Titus Livy" is, actually you'd be lucky if someone knew who Niccolò Machiavelli was.
/scepticism
The Parkus Empire
12-10-2007, 19:53
You're a sucker for punishment aren't you?
So you're going to fire everyone except Helen Zille and Trevor Manuel.
Then you're going to hire them back as a police force... except half of them will be the police force you fired in step one... right.

I'm not entirely sure I'd fire anyone. I'd just watch for corruption, and stop it.

Or will you be putting all the unemployed into the army instead and using that to combat crime when you're not supporting rebels?

No. I would not increase the army. I'd shrink it.

Where these angry people that you fired now have access to weapons... ok, gotcha.


Once again with the firing. Who said anything about firing?

As for your popularity you should just make ridiculous promises of free cars and houses, that seems to work.

Not forever....

Carrying a book isn't going to help when half the population can't read and the other half won't know what "Discourses on the First Ten Books of Titus Livy" is, actually you'd be lucky if someone knew who Niccolò Machiavelli was.
/scepticism

The book would be for me. It's on running a state.
Uturn
12-10-2007, 21:31
I'm not entirely sure I'd fire anyone. I'd just watch for corruption, and stop it.
...
The book would be for me. It's on running a state.

You're going to go cross-eyed doing that.
In this country the only way you're gonna get rid of corruption is by getting rid of everyone already involved in it, which is practically everyone.

I'm sure this isn't exactly the kind of state Machiavelli had in mind.

But hey, I believe in letting masochists have their fun.
:)
Trotskylvania
12-10-2007, 21:40
Bah, who needs to run the state?

Let the glorious communist-anarchist revolution take place, and smash the state into little bitty pieces!
Rogue Protoss
12-10-2007, 21:53
Bah, who needs to run the state?

Let the glorious communist-anarchist revolution take place, and smash the state into little bitty pieces!

death to the capitalists!
*hits some guy walking by
death to everyone!!!!!!!!!!
The Parkus Empire
12-10-2007, 23:35
You're going to go cross-eyed doing that.
In this country the only way you're gonna get rid of corruption is by getting rid of everyone already involved in it, which is practically everyone.

I'm sure this isn't exactly the kind of state Machiavelli had in mind.

But hey, I believe in letting masochists have their fun.
:)

How's this: if you take bribes, you are executed, and all your property is given to the poor? :)