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BAGHDAD, Oct. 9 -- Private security guards from an Australian-run firm opened fire on a white sedan in downtown Baghdad on Tuesday afternoon, killing two Iraqi Christian women who were driving home from work.

The killings came at a time of unprecedented scrutiny into the behavior of Western private security guards, seen by many Iraqis as reckless mercenaries with little regard for Iraqi life. In an incident last month involving Blackwater USA, guards killed as many as 17 people in what Iraqi and some U.S. officials have described as unprovoked murder.

The Oldsmobile carrying four friends from a Christian church in Baghdad was hit by at least 35 rounds. (By Joshua Partlow -- The Washington Post)

Tuesday's shooting involved Unity Resources Group, a Dubai-based company founded by an Australian and registered in Singapore. The firm was employed by RTI International, a nonprofit organization that does governance work in Iraq on a contract for the U.S. Agency for International Development, according to David Snider, a USAID spokesman in Washington.

Another shooting done by a Private Security firm. This time an Australian Group employed by RTI International.

Should we now run a selection all unjustified shootings of civilians done by soldiers?

Hopefully the guards responsible will be arrested an jailed by the Iraqi police.

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Another shooting done by a Private Security firm. This time an Australian Group employed by RTI International.

and americans wonder why we arabs dont like you

and americans wonder why we arabs dont like you
lern2read.
BAGHDAD, Oct. 9 -- Private security guards from an Australian-run firm opened fire on a white sedan in downtown Baghdad on Tuesday afternoon, killing two Iraqi Christian women who were driving home from work.

Hopefully the guards responsible will be arrested an jailed by the Iraqi police.

Well that sounds like a fair and just process. Who needs an investigation first? :rolleyes:

EDIT
Also, I'm jealous that your signature is more distracting than mine.

lern2read.
sorry still caught up in blackwater
austrialians americans, next thing you know itll be the french!

and americans wonder why we arabs dont like you

And Arabs wonder why we look down our noses at you. Its because you cannot read.[/sarcasm]

It was an AUSTRALIAN FIRM Rogue Protoss.

sorry still caught up in blackwater
austrialians americans, next thing you know itll be the french!

What? the French have guns? :D

What? the French have guns? :D

corneliu 2 good to see you wondering when you would arrive!
and to finish up on my comment who knows maybe it will be the french or the south africans even the canadian eh!?!?

corneliu 2 good to see you wondering when you would arrive!

I've been around all morning. Do I know you?

and to finish up on my comment who knows maybe it will be the french or the south africans even the canadian eh!?!?

What? Canadians committing crimes? Perish the thought. That would ruin their rep...oh wait. They already committed crimes themselves. Nevermind. j/k or am i? :D

I've been around all morning. Do I know you?



What? Canadians committing crimes? Perish the thought. That would ruin their rep...oh wait. They already committed crimes themselves. Nevermind. j/k or am i? :D

i have heard of you by andras prime

i have heard of you by andras prime

The resident anti-semite? If I were you, I distance myself from him. He has been so thoroughly trashed on this board by both left and right, its no longer funny.

Unless of course, you are him with a different account....

The resident anti-semite? If I were you, I distance myself from him. He has been so thoroughly trashed on this board by both left and right, its no longer funny.

Unless of course, you are him with a different account....

chilax corneilu i have watched you 2 spar on the forums for a while and i have to say im impresed with your debating skills,btw i havent seen him in a while? antisemite? he trashes arabs and jews? oh well may allah have mercy on him

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Another shooting done by a Private Security firm. This time an Australian Group employed by RTI International.

Well, with all the people that admire Genghis Khan here, I'm sure these actions were "badass". :rolleyes: Anyway...meh.

and americans wonder why we arabs dont like you

And humans wonder why I hate them. :rolleyes:

chilax corneilu i have watched you 2 spar on the forums for a while and i have to say im impresed with your debating skills,btw i havent seen him in a while? antisemite? he trashes arabs and jews? oh well may allah have mercy on him

On here..he trashes jews, capitalists, just about everyone who disagrees with him. He's a troll on these boards and no one takes him seriously because he's been trashed by both left and right.

BTW: Welcome to the boards.

Should we now run a selection all unjustified shootings of civilians done by soldiers?

Not soldiers. Mercenaries.

Bremer's Order # 17 gives these guards immunity from Iraqi laws.

The Rule of Order 17 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13621382/site/newsweek/)

Blackwater is part of Bremer’s Legacy: “The TROPHY Video” (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/17/blackwater-is-part-of-bremers-legacy-the-trophy-video/)

Demockracy yeah!!

What does this have to do with democracy?

Hopefully the guards responsible will be arrested an jailed by the Iraqi police.
Bremer's Order # 17 gives these guards immunity from Iraqi laws.

The Rule of Order 17 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13621382/site/newsweek/)

Blackwater is part of Bremer’s Legacy: “The TROPHY Video” (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/17/blackwater-is-part-of-bremers-legacy-the-trophy-video/)

Demockracy yeah!!

What does this have to do with democracy?
NOTHING!! That is the problem for Iraq today!!

Bremer's Order # 17 gives these guards immunity from Iraqi laws.

The Rule of Order 17 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13621382/site/newsweek/)

Blackwater is part of Bremer’s Legacy: “The TROPHY Video” (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/17/blackwater-is-part-of-bremers-legacy-the-trophy-video/)

Demockracy yeah!!

This has nothing to do with Blackwater. Nice to see you can't read that this was an australian firm. Alwell.

This has nothing to do with Blackwater. Nice to see you can't read that this was an australian firm. Alwell.
Nice to see that you just jump into attack mode. Besides, I was replying to Ifreann's comment. Perhaps he would understand?

ALL the contractors are covered by Bremer's Order # 17.

Nice to see that you just jump into attack mode. Besides, I was replying to Ifreann's comment. Perhaps he would understand?

ALL the contractors are covered by Bremer's Order # 17.

For trial in Iraq yes. But what about back in their home nation like oh...SINGAPORE?

On here..he trashes jews, capitalists, just about everyone who disagrees with him. He's a troll on these boards and no one takes him seriously because he's been trashed by both left and right.

BTW: Welcome to the boards.

he reminds me of a student i go to school with, in ethics class he always rambles on about morality and shit i swear, even teachers sleep to his words
btw tnx for the welcome, i have an idea there should be a propasal that andras prime have a hate day

NOTHING!! That is the problem for Iraq today!!

What the hell are you talking about? Why did you write "demockracy" in your original post- it has nothing to do with the issue here.

he reminds me of a student i go to school with, in ethics class he always rambles on about morality and shit i swear, even teachers sleep to his words
btw tnx for the welcome, i have an idea there should be a propasal that andras prime have a hate day

Nah..its not needed and your welcome :)

What the hell are you talking about? Why did you write "demockracy" in your original post- it has nothing to do with the issue here.

Because that's just what CH loves to do. Make a point that is not on target with a thread.

What the hell are you talking about? Why did you write "demockracy" in your original post- it has nothing to do with the issue here.
Because of Bremer's Order # 17, Iraq cannot arrest or charge the guards in question. In other words, Iraq's "democracy" is undermined by Bremer's Orders.

Because that's just what CH loves to do. Make a point that is not on target with a thread.
And you are just trolling your own thread...nice. And a little flamebait to boot.

Stick to the topic eh?

And you are just trolling your own thread...nice. And a little flamebait to boot.

Stick to the topic eh?

I am. My topic had nothing to do with Bremer's orders or democracy but yet another shooting by a security firm that you seem to be glossing over because it is not American and brought up blackwater which had nothing to do with this.

Who is off topic? You are unless you post something regarding this Australian firm or do you not care because it was not an american firm?

Because of Bremer's Order # 17, Iraq cannot arrest or charge the guards in question. In other words, Iraq's "democracy" is undermined by Bremer's Orders.

You don't know what democracy means, do you?

I am. My topic had nothing to do with Bremer's orders or democracy but yet another shooting by a security firm that you seem to be glossing over because it is not American and brought up blackwater which had nothing to do with this.

Who is off topic? You are unless you post something regarding this Australian firm or do you not care because it was not an american firm?
My reply to Ifreann was very much on topic, and yes it does concern Bremer's Orders preventing Iraq laws from applying to these contractors and yes this does compromise Iraq's "democracy".

And no, I will not be replying to anymore of your posts in this thread.

Well, what I don't understand is why the private security firms seem to be held to higher standards than the, erm, Public Security Firms (the DoD for example). They can invade nations, overthrow governments, bomb, mine, shoot, blow up, kill, rape... and people just sorta yawn... but something happens and it involves private security, and people start running about with their heads cut off.

My reply to Ifreann was very much on topic, and yes it does concern Bremer's Orders preventing Iraq laws from applying to these contractors and yes this does compromise Iraq's "democracy".

I ask of you the following two things:

1) A (real) definition of democracy.
2) Your logic as to how this relates one iota to democracy.

Let the muslims and the christians kill each other. Only good can come of it.

Let the muslims and the christians kill each other. Only good can come of it.

i am too shocked to post

i am too shocked to post

Well ya did :D

i am too shocked to post

He's trolling but he's half-right. The sectarian violence in Iraq proves that Shias and Sunnis hate each other more than they hate Americans. (Comparatively speaking, how many of each category have died?)

He's trolling but he's half-right. The sectarian violence in Iraq proves that Shias and Sunnis hate each other more than they hate Americans. (Comparatively speaking, how many of each category have died?)

you guys heres the thing about the sectarian violence and why they hate each other:
Sunnis:
had power lost it
forced to share with shias
shias dont want to share
shia's are like satan worshippers to them due to many years of demonaztion
SHia's
sunnis killed them
refused to share power
bullied by sunnis
they dont get why sunnis are hating them

you guys heres the thing about the sectarian violence and why they hate each other:
Sunnis:
had power lost it
forced to share with shias
shias dont want to share
shia's are like satan worshippers to them due to many years of demonaztion
SHia's
sunnis killed them
refused to share power
bullied by sunnis
they dont get why sunnis are hating them

That's pretty much accurate. Well said.

i think they should just divide it up and get it over with
shia part to iran
sunni part either syria or jordan or saudi
kurdish part independent, turkish annexed or iranian

That's pretty much accurate. Well said.

thank you
*takes a bow

Not soldiers. Mercenaries.

So, should we run a selection of every law broken by a soldier of the US Army and then conclude,based on a selection of cases anecdotical and extreme, that the US Army should be shot down?