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relax. The world is not going to end until December 21st, 2012. We still have like 5 years.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21192545/

Didn't the Bible predict this would happen????

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21192545/

Didn't the Bible predict this would happen????

I don't think so. Why would it predict Jerusalem being divided?

More like the world's going to get a lot better because the two sides might stop acting like idiots and actually bring some peace to the area.

Wasn't that the maya calendar of prophecy?

yep. And there are 4 or 5 other prophecies that predict the same exact date. They had a thing on 21-12-2012 on the history channel last night.

relax. The world is not going to end until December 21st, 2012. We still have like 5 years.

Wasn't that the maya calendar of prophecy?

Yes, and it's as valuable as the Bible. AKA, not.

except for the fact the Mayan calendar has been freakishly accurate throughout the years predicting events thousands of years in advance accurately.

1- The world isn't going to end.

2- It was about friggin' time.

Wasn't that the maya calendar of prophecy?

Yes, and it's as valuable as the Bible. AKA, not.

Yes, and it's as valuable as the Bible. AKA, not.Mayans > Bible.

So if the world is going to end on 12/21/2102, well that's just going to suck because we won't get to celebrate the holiday season. Can't they hold it off until 12/26/2012?

So if the world is going to end on 12/21/2102, well that's just going to suck because we won't get to celebrate the holiday season. Can't they hold it off until 12/26/2012?

according the prophecies if what is said to happen, happens, Santa will be the last thing on anyone's mind.

So if the world is going to end on 12/21/2102, well that's just going to suck because we won't get to celebrate the holiday season. Can't they hold it off until 12/26/2012?

No, because then we miss the New Year's Day Bank Holiday...make it 2nd January 2013 and I'll quite happily go.

yep. And there are 4 or 5 other prophecies that predict the same exact date. They had a thing on 21-12-2012 on the history channel last night.

what other prophecies? I only know about the Bible and the Maya ones.
What happens on dec 21 2012????????????

relax. The world is not going to end until December 21st, 2012. We still have like 5 years.

STFU, Sovie. I don't want the world to end on my 26th birthday! :p

what other prophecies? I only know about the Bible and the Maya ones.
What happens on dec 21 2012????????????

there's a computer program, a roman woman, A native American tribe and a Chinese man, all have great track records in predicting future events and all predict the world to end 21-12-2012.

what other prophecies? I only know about the Bible and the Maya ones.
What happens on dec 21 2012????????????
NSG goes down, the end of the world as we know it.:p

what other prophecies? I only know about the Bible and the Maya ones.
What happens on dec 21 2012????????????

Nothing. A new baktun starts, which is a significant event in and of itself, but given that there have been a number of them in the past millenium with no end of the world, I'm not too worried.

Nothing. A new baktun starts, which is a significant event in and of itself, but given that there have been a number of them in the past millenium with no end of the world, I'm not too worried.

Actually scientists have said the planets will align on that day in such a way that could very well cause the earth's poles to flip. If and when this happens, the world as we know it will end.

The End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGqroT1FZ5Y)

Sing it with me!

That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane,
Lenny Bruce is not afraid
Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn - world
Serves its own needs, dont misserve your own needs. Feed
It off an aux speak, grunt, no, strength,turn, ladder
Start to clatter with fear fight down height. Wire
In a fire, representing seven games, in a government
For hire and a combat site. Left of west and coming in
A hurry with the furies breathing down your neck. Team
By team reporters baffled, trumped, tethered cropped
Look at that low playing! Fine, then. Uh oh,
Overflow, population, common food, but it'll do. Save
Yourself, serve yourself. World serves its own needs,
Listen to your heart bleed dummy with the rapture and
The revered and the right, right. You vitriolic,
Patriotic, slam, fight, bright light, feeling pretty
Psyched

It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine

Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught in foreign
Towers. Slash and burn, return, listen to yourself
Churn. Locking in, uniforming,and book burning, blood
Letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate
Light a candle, light a motive. Step down, step down
Watch your heel crush, crushed, uh-oh, this means no
Fear cavalier. Renegade steer clear! A tournament,
a Tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions,
Offer me alternatives and I decline

(chorus)
It's the end of the world as we know it (it's time I had some time alone)
It's the end of the world as we know it (it's time I had some time alone)
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (it's time I had some
time alone)

I feel fine

(repeat chorus)

The other night I dreamt of knives, continental
Drift divide. Mountains sit in a line, Leonard
Bernstein. Leonid Brezhnev, Lenny Bruce and Lester
Bangs. Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom! You
Symbiotic, patriotic, slam book neck, right? Right

(repeat chorus)

It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (it's time I had some
time alone)

(repeat chorus 2x)

what other prophecies? I only know about the Bible and the Maya ones.
What happens on dec 21 2012????????????

Deus Malum and I have birthdays. As far as I know, I'm not connected with any apocalyptic evil. I can't speak for Deus Malum, though.

Actually scientists have said the planets will align on that day in such a way that could very well cause the earth's poles to flip. If and when this happens, the world as we know it will end.

you mean all those sailors who still rely on magnets are going to get really, really pissed?

Let me ask you this: did the bible actually claim to know this exact information?

Actually scientists have said the planets will align on that day in such a way that could very well cause the earth's poles to flip. If and when this happens, the world as we know it will end.

[citation needed]

you mean all those sailors who still rely on magnets are going to get really, really pissed?

Yup. North becomes South, South becomes north.

Besides which, I'd rather think of Sir Isaac Newton's prediction: 2056.

Nothing. A new baktun starts, which is a significant event in and of itself, but given that there have been a number of them in the past millenium with no end of the world, I'm not too worried.

Baktun???:confused:

Deus Malum and I have birthdays. As far as I know, I'm not connected with any apocalyptic evil. I can't speak for Deus Malum, though.

Well, I am a god. And I am evil, so I'm not really sure, to be honest.

I think Smunkee's bday might also be the 21st of December.

For some strange reason it's a really common birth date.

Why can't Israel do what India did, create their own Pakistan!

Baktun???:confused:

Long story short, baktuns are 400-year cycles that each represent an era in the Mayan calendar.

Long story short, baktuns are 400-year cycles that each represent an era in the Mayan calendar.

It is much, much more than that. It is the end of a LONG COUNT cycle:

"Scholars now know, via the established 584283 correlation, that this 13-baktun period began on 0.0.0.0.1, August 12, 3114 BC and will end on 13.0.0.0.0, December 21, 2012 AD. We should note right away that the 2012 cycle ending date is a solstice date."

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tzolkinmaya/esp_tzolkinmaya12.htm

Right about nine months or so after mating season. Go figure! ;)

Since when is March the mating season?

Well, I am a god. And I am evil, so I'm not really sure, to be honest.

I think Smunkee's bday might also be the 21st of December.

For some strange reason it's a really common birth date.

Right about nine months or so after mating season. Go figure! ;)

Since when is March the mating season?

It is commonly so for a number of animals. But for humans, every season is really mating season.... But never mind that! Look, the universe is imploding!

*flees*

It is much, much more than that. It is the end of a LONG COUNT cycle:

"Scholars now know, via the established 584283 correlation, that this 13-baktun period began on 0.0.0.0.1, August 12, 3114 BC and will end on 13.0.0.0.0, December 21, 2012 AD. We should note right away that the 2012 cycle ending date is a solstice date."

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tzolkinmaya/esp_tzolkinmaya12.htm

Furthermore, I saw a documentary on a cataclysmic galactical event at the time. And another on how a gamma radiation burst could destroy life on Earth. But the latter wasn't related to the said date. The former was. Has something or other to do with the galactic core, but I can't remember details.

http://www.adishakti.org/mayan_end_times_prophecy_12-21-2012.htm

The World is not going to end. But it says the world will change and those who refuse to adapt to a new world order will perish.

yep. And there are 4 or 5 other prophecies that predict the same exact date. They had a thing on 21-12-2012 on the history channel last night.

The Mayans also managed to kill off their entire empire by themselves without foreign interference.

"The Mayans say that this happens every 5,125 years. But also that this causes a displacement in the earths rotation, and because of this movement great catastrophes would be produced."

The Maya are claiming that the Golden Age of Mankind will begin December 21 2012 and that it will be party time.

You know, ever since I saw the moon and the sunb out at the same time, and nothing happpened, I'm officially doubting all doomsday conspitacies.

So the Earth shifts a degree on its axis. Even if it means the end for mankind (highly doubtful) it may not necessarily mean the end of the world. Life will continue and may eventually evolve (or devolve for all you cynics out there) back into humanity.

I mean, the Earth survived a planet hitting it (See: How the Moon was made) and it has had axial tilts in the past. The Sahara was once fertile grassland and so were parts of the Middle East, yet life continued elsewhere.

The only way the world could effectively end is if it is physically blown apart through a massive collision, and it survived one of those once already.

So if the world is going to end on 12/21/2102, well that's just going to suck because we won't get to celebrate the holiday season. Can't they hold it off until 12/26/2012?

Who wants to throw a party on Mayan Armageddon?

:D

The most likely event is a magnetic flip. This would fuck up computers. I don't think everyone is sitting around waiting for it to happen.

It could be like Y2k where everyone plans for it and nothing happens.

Remember how they use a different calendar? 12/21/2012 is the mayan equivalent of our 12/31/1999... but without the minor Y2K problems.

EDOIT: Actually, it would be better to compare it to 12/31/1899. And on a side note, they don't expect a flip in the magnetic field until 3000-4000 AD. Yes, it's weakening, but it'd have to get weaker MUCH quicker to see it in your lifetimes.

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Yeah I need to get some stuff done too.But a thw world isn't just gonna end so I've got time to pick up the ol' dry cleaning and such.Not that I would spend my last days getting stuff dry cleaned.
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Of course we can always check the Wiki... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apocalypse ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypticism

In other news, the sky is blue, we're all going to die someday, and bears do crap in the woods.

As to the splitting of Jerusalem equating to the end of the world -- that's silly. When Berlin got split, it didn't end the the world.

I think its safe to say we all know how the world will end...

Zombies.

In other news, the sky is blue, we're all going to die someday, and bears do crap in the woods.

As to the splitting of Jerusalem equating to the end of the world -- that's silly. When Berlin got split, it didn't end the the world.

But Berlin is not in the Bible. Is it in the Maya prophecy???

Who wants to throw a party on Mayan Armageddon?

:D

I do! I'll bring the chips, but someone else will have to bring the dips!

In other news, the sky is blue, we're all going to die someday, and bears do crap in the woods.

As to the splitting of Jerusalem equating to the end of the world -- that's silly. When Berlin got split, it didn't end the the world.

Yea, but Berlin wasn't a holy place where Jesus was born, and crucified and the home of the Al-Aqsa Mosque where they have a rock with foot prints on them apparently.

I have a book of predictions on my bookshelf right 'ere. Guess what else is predicted for 2012?

Or I could just tell you..
"The Catholic Church ends its opposition to contraception. The Church also permits priests to marry."
If that isn't a sign of the world ending, I don't know what is. :p


Oh, and in 2020, night is eliminated from the earth using some funky solar satellites which store the sun's rays, making the day 100% daytime. Holy crap that would piss me off. :)

Since when was Jesus supposed to have been born in Jerusalem>

Nazareth, my bad. Whatever, it's a Holy Place, that's the main thing.

It is much, much more than that. It is the end of a LONG COUNT cycle:

"Scholars now know, via the established 584283 correlation, that this 13-baktun period began on 0.0.0.0.1, August 12, 3114 BC and will end on 13.0.0.0.0, December 21, 2012 AD. We should note right away that the 2012 cycle ending date is a solstice date."

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tzolkinmaya/esp_tzolkinmaya12.htm

Wrong. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_Long_Count_calendar#2012_and_the_Long_Count) A long count includes four more numbers. The 13.0.0.0.0 (Which isn't even an end date, that occurs the day before) is abbreviated. This has been known for years. Plus, there was a long count that ended in the 3000s BCE, and nothing of import happened.

Yea, but Berlin wasn't a holy place where Jesus was born, and crucified and the home of the Al-Aqsa Mosque where they have a rock with foot prints on them apparently.

Since when was Jesus supposed to have been born in Jerusalem>

Nazareth, my bad. Whatever, it's a Holy Place, that's the main thing.

Jesus wasn't supposed to be born in Nazareth either.

How many religions have already picked the end of the world? The Aztecs were the only ones who seemed to apply any kind of logic behind it.

Mayans too Luporum although they're just more vague about it. If this is going to be the end of the world then we really went out on the most boring way possible.

In other news, the sky is blue, we're all going to die someday, and bears do crap in the woods.

As to the splitting of Jerusalem equating to the end of the world -- that's silly. When Berlin got split, it didn't end the the world.

Yeah, but dogs can't look up.

Mayans too Luporum although they're just more vague about it. If this is going to be the end of the world then we really went out on the most boring way possible.

Boring is good. I'd rather that than The Rapture, or Ragnorak.

Fire hurts. :(

They all seem to end in fire

Boring is good. I'd rather that than The Rapture, or Ragnorak.

Fire hurts. :(

Yea, as long as it isn't a stabby, burning or being consumed alive type end of the world, that's cool. Seriously, if it involves me getting stabbed I'ma be pissed.

Oh, and, yes, the Mayan apocalypse thing is a long count shift. One ended in the 3000-ish BCE...and began a new one. They're like 5000 years about, if I'm recalling it correctly.

And the radiation burst thing someone posted earlier would be really....unlikely. It's a a burst from a super-neutron star or something I think is what you're talking about? I'm probably recalling the same History Channel show that you are, it was part of The Universe series. Pretty much it's a super beam of of intense radiation that, if it occurred in our side of the galaxy and hit the Earth, it'd vaporize anything on the side it hit. <3 for History Channel.

Boring is good. I'd rather that than The Rapture, or Ragnorak.

Fire hurts. :(

It'll be a Ragnarök. No divine battle between purest good and blackest evil, but a nihilistic battle between morally ambiguous opposing forces; mirror images wrestling for control of this pitiful rock.

And the radiation burst thing someone posted earlier would be really....unlikely. It's a a burst from a super-neutron star or something I think is what you're talking about? I'm probably recalling the same History Channel show that you are, it was part of The Universe series. Pretty much it's a super beam of of intense radiation that, if it occurred in our side of the galaxy and hit the Earth, it'd vaporize anything on the side it hit. <3 for History Channel.

That's much better than burning for all eternity because of something I said when I was drunk.

I don't think so. Why would it predict Jerusalem being divided?

As a bible prophecy nut, I can answer that. NO!

Jesus wasn't supposed to be born in Nazareth either.

Right. It would be Bethlehem.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21192545/

Didn't the Bible predict this would happen????

"the" "Bible" didn't predict anything.
:rolleyes:

But yeah, we're all doomed. Get used to it. 'specially if we're all born into "original sin" and all that bullshit.

I do! I'll bring the chips, but someone else will have to bring the dips!

It's okay, there's dips aplenty when you're talking about fervent "rapture"/"armageddon"/"revelation" fans.

Rational: There will be no 'end of the world' until the planet is physically destroyed through long term entropy, all predictions to the contrary are merely political scams to aquire supposedly temporary power.

Emotional: It's about fucking time for the world to end. Too much time, too many people trying to fuck up everyone else's lives, and it all needs to be wiped away somehow.

I don't care if the apocalypse ends my personal life. I've had a decent run, if a short one. But what scares me more than any fire of destruction is the idea that we will have to deal with the controlling elite that exists right now for the rest of our lives.

Oh, and, yes, the Mayan apocalypse thing is a long count shift. One ended in the 3000-ish BCE...and began a new one. They're like 5000 years about, if I'm recalling it correctly.

A bit over 7000, actually, due to the four other (normally not present due to abbreviation) digits. And even then it's questionable if that's the full long count, since there are places where dates are preserved using at least a dozen more places. Not sure of the exact number, it's in the link I provided a bit back.

Right. It would be Bethlehem.

Thank you. I get annoyed when I know more about the Bible than people who actually believe in it.

The world ending -- and what's wrong with that, again?

you were planning on lasting another couple of hundred years? Ah well...

The world ending -- and what's wrong with that, again?

you were planning on lasting another couple of hundred years? Ah well...

Well, I was planning on being here for at least another 1,000.

Who wants to throw a party on Mayan Armageddon?
Sure, I'll bring the noontide darkness and rivers of blood. Someone else will have to bring the great cracks which open and swallow the 12 greatest cities of mankind, though.

I just finished watching the X-Files series. Turns out December 22 2012 is when the aliens return to colonise Earth.

relax. The world is not going to end until December 21st, 2012. We still have like 5 years.

The world is actually going to end on the date, but up until fairly recently the mechanism by which it will be destroyed has been unknown to most people.

Not, as it were, anymore.


On that day in December, Hillary Clinton - just re-elected - will bring the body of Vladimir Lenin from Moscow to Mecca,
where she alone will carry his mortal remains into the KA'BA, inaugurating the
Zion Hell Age.

The moon will rotate so that the dark side faces the earth, and it will be red.

The waters of the rivers of the earth will be changed into horse blood, and 777,777,777 people will die,
and 666,666,666 people will turn into goats,
and all tongues will speak Spanish or else be mute, and the world will be ATZLAN.


IT IS FORETOLD

............there was a long count that ended in the 3000s BCE, and nothing of import happened.


I'll take your word for it.

After all, if your info is on the 'net too, it MUST be more accurate than anyone else's.

And you speak with such authority on the 3k B.C.E. issue, I can only assume you were there to witness the events first hand, so again, I'll just have to take your word for it.

Oh, and, yes, the Mayan apocalypse thing is a long count shift. One ended in the 3000-ish BCE...and began a new one. They're like 5000 years about, if I'm recalling it correctly.
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Yeah, I love how hilariously people misunderstand the Mayan calender. It's just the end of one cycle, people. A Great Year.

The World Is Going To End :(

In other breaking news:

Pope: Evidence Suggests He Might Be Catholic!

Bear Feces Found In Woods!

Property Of Wetness Attributed To Water!

Well.... first of all, the Mayan Calender is misunderstood, as has been said before. And besides... everyone talks about "Mayan predictions never been wrong before ZOMG roffle mah woffles" but can anyone actually point out something they've actually predicted that cam true? Just asking. Also, Nostradamus predicted the end of the world around about 3000, and since hes been pretty good up till now I'm taking his word for it...

This being said, something important DID happen in 3K B.C.E, according to a doccie I watched in January... red rain fell over what is now Mexico and China was cast into darkness by a gigantic dust storm for nearly a year.

Personally, if the end has to come I want it to be Shadowrun style... the dawn of the Fourth World, magic and the ancient races returned to the earth, stuff like that

The only way the world could effectively end is if it is physically blown apart through a massive collision, and it survived one of those once already.

There are...possbilities ;) (http://qntm.org/destroy)

I'll take your word for it.

After all, if your info is on the 'net too, it MUST be more accurate than anyone else's.

And you speak with such authority on the 3k B.C.E. issue, I can only assume you were there to witness the events first hand, so again, I'll just have to take your word for it.

I have yet to find any evidence that anything of import happened, and thus the default position is that nothing of import did happen.

Personally, if the end has to come I want it to be Shadowrun style... the dawn of the Fourth World, magic and the ancient races returned to the earth, stuff like that

Same here. I'd become a Wizard. :D

Rational: There will be no 'end of the world' until the planet is physically destroyed through long term entropy, all predictions to the contrary are merely political scams to aquire supposedly temporary power.

Emotional: It's about fucking time for the world to end. Too much time, too many people trying to fuck up everyone else's lives, and it all needs to be wiped away somehow.

I don't care if the apocalypse ends my personal life. I've had a decent run, if a short one. But what scares me more than any fire of destruction is the idea that we will have to deal with the controlling elite that exists right now for the rest of our lives.

Most sound reasoning I've heard yet!

Thank you. I get annoyed when I know more about the Bible than people who actually believe in it.

You must get annoyed an awful, awful lot :(

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21192545/

Didn't the Bible predict this would happen????

*Plays "Volcano" By Jimmy Buffet*

You must get annoyed an awful, awful lot :(

And I've only read two of the books in full!

*Plays "Volcano" By Jimmy Buffet*

Volcano? I think you're talkin' about Dianetics now.

And I've only read two of the books in full!

Bleah. ONE is more than enough. :gundge: