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so medicinal marijuana? what do we think? some illnesses such as cancer, aid’s, multiple sclerosis, glaucoma, epilepsy and chronic pain, some say, can be treated (NOT cured before you start bitching about that) by medicinal marijuana. everyone seems to be split over this, some doctors agree with findings about the helpful effect it can have, others don't. so im sure we all know about the fear that weed (cant be arsed with medicinal marijuana anymore) can cause mental problems, which again is split down the middle. some research shows it can be dangerous some doesn't, it seems everyone has an opinion but no one has a solution for it. i don't think i need to remind you that over 8,000 deaths are recorded each year due to alcohol related deaths (average in UK according to government released statistics). Also smoking cigarettes causes around 114000 deaths a year (average in uk according to the NHS). ok now weed tends to have very few related deaths indeed, does this fact even matter, should we give sufferers' what they want? is a drug a drug full stop? tell me what you all think on the matter, oh and please try not to mention legalizing marijuana completly or amsterdam or anything, this is an entirely different subject, thank you please!

Legalize it(and not just medicinally), but have rules/regulations similar to alcohol. (open container laws, age requirements, DUI, &c)

These people are dying and suffering and we're going to put a stick in our ass about how they relieve that pain because it might make them actually feel good, too? Do we only accept side effects if they're bad ones?

Sounds pretty barbaric to me.

everyone seems to be split over this, some doctors agree with findings about the helpful effect it can have, others don't.

this doesn't seem like the sort of thing you could disagree with

Interestingly, we have artifical THC available. This has been prescribed to some hard-core drug addicts with AIDS, and even they claimed it made them "too high" and they disliked it.


Now, if we're going to have the active drug available synthetically, why not provide it in its natural state? Particularly if that natural state is, for whatever reason, more effective?

Interestingly, we have artifical THC available. This has been prescribed to some hard-core drug addicts with AIDS, and even they claimed it made them "too high" and they disliked it.


Now, if we're going to have the active drug available synthetically, why not provide it in its natural state? Particularly if that natural state is, for whatever reason, more effective?

Because drugs (except for tobacco and alcohol, of course) are EVIL. Don't you know that we are at war with drugs?! You're providing aid and comfort to the enemy!

The idea that we should begrudge a person in pain a drug that makes them feel better is absolutely ridiculous. Doctors routinely use more dangerous and addictive drugs in the course of treating patients, but this one has a huge stigma, and therefore shouldn't be used?

When my grandfather was going through chemotherapy, he completely lost his appetite. The fact that he wasn't eating meant that he wasn't replenishing his blood cells, and thus couldn't continue his run of chemotherapy. I suggested medicinal marijuana, as it can increase appetite. His response was, "I don't want to be a druggie." He was on several drugs that were more addictive that weed. He was taking chemotherapy, which does much more harm to the body than weed. But he wasn't going to touch marijuana because that would make him a "druggie".

And this is the idiotic perception that people are propagating when they oppose it. This is the perception that leads law enforcement officials to arrest elderly ladies with cancer or glaucoma for daring to grow it at home.

Seriously, don't we have something better to do?

Who the hell do we think we are if we think we can tell other people what they can or can't smoke? Get the hell off people's backs.

Only regulations: You can only use any intoxicating or mind-altering drug on your own property or on someone else's property who has deemed it acceptable to use. You can't use while driving because you are in public; you can't use on street corners (again public). Doing otherwise harms other people through your conduct or local effects of the drug itself. What problems could arise from this? (Oh yeah! If people smoke marijuana, that means society is being damaged! This completely abstract concept is being harmed because I think that a plant reacting with oxygen and someone is inhaling the products for their own enjoyment/ use is bad!)

seems like people are agreeing with my own personal view then, medicinal marijuana should be legal! i myself smoke it medicinally...like when i get a cut or maybe a headache or a nasty scratch! :cool:

"Medicinal Marijuana" is a joke and simply a front used by drug addicts to get one step closer to legalizing their vile substances. There are plenty of safer drugs that can assist one who is suffering.

There are plenty of safer drugs that can assist one who is suffering.

name them

"Medicinal Marijuana" is a joke and simply a front used by drug addicts to get one step closer to legalizing their vile substances. There are plenty of safer drugs that can assist one who is suffering.

Actually, I haven't ever smoked weed. (though I'd like to try some day) I support legalization. Therefore you are utterly wrong.

lol at the pun in the title

I think Marijuana should definitely be legal. You can't in the right mind have alcohol legal (which kills far more, and is waaay more addictive and dangerous) and not have Marijuana illegal. Oh well, what can you do?

I'm all for legalizing, taxing, and regulating marijuana for nonmedicinal use so medicinal use is definately ok.

Negative. Do not legalize or medicinalize.

If medical marijuana is becomes legal, I will fuck hookers until I get AIDS.

I won't be the only one to do so either.

If medical marijuana is becomes legal, I will fuck hookers until I get AIDS.

I won't be the only one to do so either.

So if medicinal marijuana is legalized the only change in your behavior is to stop using condoms when fucking hookers?

Cancer?...source or gtfo.

So if medicinal marijuana is legalized the only change in your behavior is to stop using condoms when fucking hookers?Until I get AIDS.

It's always high time for Marijuana. :)

Cancer?...source or gtfo.

I haven't read all the way through this, but it was readily available online, so:

http://www.safeaccessnow.org/downloads/cancer_brochure.pdf

I haven't read all the way through this, but it was readily available online, so:

http://www.safeaccessnow.org/downloads/cancer_brochure.pdf

"Nausea, appetite loss, pain and anxiety."

Now you'll be stoned, hungry as hell, tripping balls, and paranoid. :p

Interesting find though, STFI (stay the fuck in)

"Medicinal Marijuana" is a joke and simply a front used by drug addicts to get one step closer to legalizing their vile substances. There are plenty of safer drugs that can assist one who is suffering.

"safer" as in "the ones for which you have to pay US and Western European pharmaceutical industries who outlawed cannabis and other natural herbs in the first place" unlike hemp -- or indeed poppy, cocca, "magic" mushrooms etc. -- which you can grow yourself for free?

Cancer?...source or gtfo.http://content.ytmnd.com/content/a/1/2/a121768a2ccc8ac9a4de58265cb94382.jpg

Choice has always been a factor in taking drugs. While you can officially discourage drugs, the choice plus the ability to do so (which has never actually been eliminated) will always equal the act of doing drugs.

My personal opinion is that rather than attempting to circumvent social problems with criminal persecution, the goverment should cease to intervene in criminal matters regarding drugs. Drugs will cease to be a problem when the desire to change states of mind will go away or the society is equipped to handle the consequences. The first is nearly impossible to implement from a goverment standpoint, whereas the second is a typical goverment problem: find people who are capable of dealing with the problem, and giving them the required funding up to the point where it ceases to give any benefit.

Alcohol kills more people than weed and it's totally legal, so why not?

Alcohol kills more people than weed and it's totally legal, so why not?

I'm for the legalization of marijuana but this isn't a good argument. I hesitate to use the word 'fallacy' as that is abused on this forum like a red-headed step-child, but...

It doesn't necessarily argue for the legalization of weed but rather the regulation of booze. You're essentially introducing a separate problem that wouldn't be addressed by the legalization of weed and then saying, "Why not?"

I know that's not what you're trying to say, you're saying that if this one thing is legal, socially acceptable, and (more) dangerous then it only seems fair that a less dangerous substance should also be. But that doesn't really follow. That alcohol is dangerous is an argument against alcohol-its danger wouldn't be addressed by the introduction of weed and there for can't really be used as an argument for it.

I'll admit that I understand where you're coming from and feel that frustration when a beer or three or that hard liquor is an acceptable past time, "You look like you need a stiff drink, Jim" but as soon as someone takes a puff in the same situation they're a degenerate-or to have someone berate me for smoking pot and then brow-beat me into going for drinks after work you want to just shout, "WHAT THE FUCK?!?!"

I get it.

But really it's not a good argument rather than a point of frustration.

I don't like the 'It's from nature, man" argument either. And not only because it extends the Specoli stereotype of spaced out surfer/hippies who spew comedic pseudo-philosophy, but because it just isn't a good argument. Hemlock comes from the earth, too, and I'm not about to put that in a pipe.

I only do this because we have to trim our own arguments to avoid having to listen to the same closed loop nonsense from those who would argue against us.

Completely legalise it for adults for every purpose. What people wish to smoke, ingest, snort or otherwise insert in their bodies is their own business.

It is enough to punish them for the consequences of irresponsible use - like driving while under influence. Which already is covered by other existing laws.
Possibly healthcare insurance companies will wish to charge them more as well.