NationStates Jolt Archive


Happy Invasion Day!

Dalnijrus
08-10-2007, 17:15
DO YOU FOLKS LIKE COLONIALISM
REAL COLONIALISM
FROM THE HANDS OF COLUMBUS

Discuss:
- Native Americans or American tribes or whatever the PC term is today
- European colonialism
- how you feel about celebrating what kicked off a nation
- how you feel about celebrating what kicked off the end of several smaller nations
Groznyj
08-10-2007, 17:16
Can we scream for our cream?
South Lorenya
08-10-2007, 17:16
So my birthday is in nine days. I'll be turning 28.
Dalnijrus
08-10-2007, 17:19
Can we scream for our cream?

And for your pumpkin pie!
Smunkeeville
08-10-2007, 17:23
I totally forgot it was........
The Tribes Of Longton
08-10-2007, 17:24
I saw a miniature pumpkin today. It was terrifying.
New Genoa
08-10-2007, 17:24
Columbus ain't got shit on me
Pacificville
08-10-2007, 17:26
DO YOU FOLKS LIKE COLONIALISM
REAL COLONIALISM
FROM THE HANDS OF COLUMBUS

Discuss:
- Native Americans or American tribes or whatever the PC term is today
- European colonialism
- how you feel about celebrating what kicked off a nation
- how you feel about celebrating what kicked off the end of several smaller nations


Why make your text smaller? Trying to get some sort of mystique going? Of course you are. I suggest a snappier looking signature, as smaller text is difficult for me to read even when I have the size turned up twice on Firefox.
Andaluciae
08-10-2007, 17:29
The most powerful tool in the European arsenal in the conquest of the American continents was one that the Europeans did not even know existed: the germs of crowd diseases. Smallpox, that dreaded and most lethal killer, likely struck down millions of indigenous people. This devastation by disease preceded the arrival of European colonialists in almost all areas on the continents, killing off so much of the population that the misperception that the continents were sparsely populated before their arrival of European explorers was able to grow and gain dominance.

Why was this the case, and why did American diseases not make the trip back to Europe? This was due to the fact that the indigenous groups in North America had little to no exposure to crowd diseases, and virtually no exposure to the source of European crowd diseases: Domesticated livestock. Without that, there was no genetic immunity, and like fire in gasoline, the multi-million population of American continents was shattered.
Dalnijrus
08-10-2007, 17:32
Why make your text smaller? Trying to get some sort of mystique going? Of course you are. I suggest a snappier looking signature, as smaller text is difficult for me to read even when I have the size turned up twice on Firefox.

I don't know, actually; I simply preferred it.

This is the first time I've been double-teamed to change my font size. :p
New Malachite Square
08-10-2007, 17:33
In Canada, it's Thanksgiving.
Risottia
08-10-2007, 17:39
The most powerful tool in the European arsenal in the conquest of the American continents was one that the Europeans did not even know existed: the germs of crowd diseases.
You know, mass-scale organisation and production, steel , coal and firearms might have helped somewhat, too...

Why was this the case, and why did American diseases not make the trip back to Europe?
Meh. What about this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syphilis


Anyway, it went like this.

CRISTOFORO COLOMBO: Good morning indians.
CRISTOFORO COLOMBO: All your land are belong to us.
NATIVES: Sir, actually, we're no Indians, you see, you get a continent first and then an ocean between you and Asia if you travel west, and a ocean first and then a continent if you travel east.
CRISTOFORO COLOMBO: Ha Ha Ha Ha.
Andaluciae
08-10-2007, 18:45
You know, mass-scale organisation and production, steel , coal and firearms might have helped somewhat, too...

As Diamond concluded, though, the primary factor in the rise of European dominance on the American continent was the massive depopulation brought about by the introduction of crowd diseases such as plague and Smallpox, diseases to which the indigenous population had no immunity.


Meh. What about this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syphilis

As your article points out, there is a substantial amount of evidence that Syphillis was present in Europe before the fall of the Roman Empire. Nor was it as communicable or lethal as smallpox, which could only be contained with stringent quarantines. Syphillis, though, is only spread by contact, usually sexual.
New Granada
08-10-2007, 18:54
The discovery of the new world is one of the best things that ever happened in the history of the world.


The only complaints come from the lost souls and dead-enders on the ash-heap of history.
IL Ruffino
08-10-2007, 19:47
I thank greedy bastards everywhere for stumbling upon a national holiday that gets me out of school.

Happy StumbleUpon Day!
South Lorenya
08-10-2007, 20:32
Wake me when we celebrate Eriksson Day.
Killer Coughs
08-10-2007, 20:32
You should have waited four days for this thread.
Zilam
08-10-2007, 20:37
Time for the Indian nations to combine strength, and attack, using the help of the Super Best Friends!

http://www.sunnywebsitedesignstudio.co.uk/hyper1/images/Little_Big_Horn.jpg


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http://room12a.com/archives/superbestfriends.2.gif


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http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/images/Nuke2.JPG
Dakini
08-10-2007, 21:11
In Canada, it's Thanksgiving.
hooray for thanksgiving!
Soviet Haaregrad
08-10-2007, 21:39
The moral of the story is, sleeping next to animals gives you evil superpowers, like spreading plague.
New Mitanni
08-10-2007, 23:02
Thank God for Columbus and the discovery of the New World. Yes, discovery, as in, communication of its existence to the rest of the world. Thank God for the establishment of the United States in the New World, without which, among many other things, a lot of posters on this board wouldn't be here--nor would the Internet, for that matter.

So Happy Columbus Day to all Americans and especially to my fratelli e sorelle of Italian ancestry.
Vetalia
08-10-2007, 23:09
Discovery of the New World is great and all, but my ancestors would still be tilling farmland in Poland and Prussia for another 400 years. So, it's not quite as important to those of us from Eastern Europe as it is the colonizing nations.