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I cannot keep silent any longer. I do realize that there are some individual homosexuals who are decent (but VERY misguided) people, however the homosexual movement as a whole is truly evil. Homosexuality is a mental disorder and a gateway to pedophilia. Society should outlaw public homosexuality. What people do in their own homes is their business, but homosexuals must not be allowed to spread their abomination in public.

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

The fact of the matter is that the homosexual movement is a kick in the face to society and our children. How can anyone support handing a child over to homosexuals for adoption? There is something truly disturbing about the fact that our society allows homosexuality to be so public. Think of the children! I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

Pedophiles are the worst kind of "people" on this earth and they should be executed by the state for their evil ways. Any convicted pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual, is an incarnation of evil and should be put in the gassing chamber. I think we can all agree on this.

However, people need to realize that homosexuality in public allows for more pedophilia. I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted or anything, but their movement and horrific activism should be immediatly outlawed. No gay "weddings", no gay adoptions, no gay unions, no openly gay public servants, etc. Society has got to stop this love affair with the homosexual movement before it is too late. No more public homosexuality!

Funny how most child molesters are straight men then, huh?

However, people need to realize that homosexuality in public allows for more pedophilia.

Provide facts, or we'll just assume you're another knee-jerk anti-gay. I've never seen any proof for this, just a variety of groups stating it "because it's obvious, y'see!"

Prove it.

Ugh.

I have no energy to bother with such silly trolling.

Also, if the OP is going for satire, I suggest taking lessons first.

Pedophiles should be executed? I hope you mean child molesters/rapists. Certainly they should be executed. But pedophiles? No, no.

http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/images/troll.jpg

Pedophiles are the worst kind of "people" on this earth and they should be executed by the state for their evil ways. Any convicted pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual, is an incarnation of evil and should be put in the gassing chamber. I think we can all agree on this.

I think, nay, I know, you are wrong in thinking this.

Its TRA's evil clone!

I think we can all agree on this.

Unless you've got mice in your pocket, who's this "we" who are agreeing?

Well, you're not a very fun troll.

I will not give a response to this thread because it is either a joke, or worse, someone actually believes this garbage. Homophobes are insecure little fuckers who aren't happy with themselves. Being anti-gay shows signs of primitive brain functions.

Another member of the Westboro Baptist Church on NS? :p

Its TRA's evil clone!

TRA was way too amusing for this to be his clone.

Feh, how boring, atleast MTAE put some effort into his trolls. This is sad.

Seriously. Go suck Fred Phelp's cock and then please slit your wrists for the good of society, you ignorant fucking bastard.

Seriously. Go suck Fred Phelp's cock and then please slit your wrists for the good of society, you ignorant fucking bastard.

He's a troll, but don't flame him. You can't break the rules just because someone is being inciteful.

-snippy
Hint: This is the desired response.

Provide facts, or we'll just assume you're another knee-jerk anti-gay. I've never seen any proof for this, just a variety of groups stating it "because it's obvious, y'see!"

Prove it.

I should probably stay out of this, it isn't my topic, and doubly so because I suspect the OP of trolling...

However, for the sake of honest debate and debate scoring... He did attempt to 'prove it' as you say when he said:

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

True or not is not my point, but he did list multiple national movements and then he shows the link between the accepted group A and the unaccepted sup-group B being empowered through it. To counter that argument we have to show how either the accusations he's made are not true (are the names he said wrong or incorrect?) or we have to show that Group A does not in fact support sub-group B intentionally but that sub-group B attaches itself to group A because it erroneously thinks they can find a common ally there?

But to say "prove it" is not a counter argument after he has already named names and places.

TRA was way too amusing for this to be his clone.

I agree. Unless he comes up with something along the lines of "gays trying to fire a beam into the earth's core", I give him a distant last place.

Any convicted pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual, is an incarnation of evil and should be put in the gassing chamber. I think we can all agree on this.

So the only people left alive would be the asexuals. Hooray for mass extinction!

:p

Seriously. Go suck Fred Phelp's cock and then please slit your wrists for the good of society, you ignorant fucking bastard.

That's not nice.

So the only people left alive would be the asexuals. Hooray for mass extinction!

:p

Someone doesn't understand commas.

*snip flaming*
When you get banned for flaming, the troll wins. Bad FSA.

I cannot keep silent any longer.

You can and you should. Really.

I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted or anything, but their movement and horrific activism should be immediatly outlawed. No gay "weddings", no gay adoptions, no gay unions, no openly gay public servants, etc. Society has got to stop this love affair with the homosexual movement before it is too late. No more public homosexuality!

No more public homosexuality, no gay weddings, adoptions, unions, openly gay public servants, etc. IS persecuting homosexuals.

So your last paragraph is, in and of itself, an oxymoron. Because flaming is illegal around here, I will refrain saying what I think YOU are.

Oh, and all the noise you make about homosexuality and pedophilia is a lot of unsupported nonsense, and is harmful and please refer back to my first point.

Someone doesn't understand commas.

Shush you. The way he's phrased it easily allows for that interpretation.

I cannot keep silent any longer. I do realize that there are some individual homosexuals who are decent (but VERY misguided) people, however the homosexual movement as a whole is truly evil. Homosexuality is a mental disorder and a gateway to pedophilia. Society should outlaw public homosexuality. What people do in their own homes is their business, but homosexuals must not be allowed to spread their abomination in public.

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

The fact of the matter is that the homosexual movement is a kick in the face to society and our children. How can anyone support handing a child over to homosexuals for adoption? There is something truly disturbing about the fact that our society allows homosexuality to be so public. Think of the children! I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

Pedophiles are the worst kind of "people" on this earth and they should be executed by the state for their evil ways. Any convicted pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual, is an incarnation of evil and should be put in the gassing chamber. I think we can all agree on this.

However, people need to realize that homosexuality in public allows for more pedophilia. I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted or anything, but their movement and horrific activism should be immediatly outlawed. No gay "weddings", no gay adoptions, no gay unions, no openly gay public servants, etc. Society has got to stop this love affair with the homosexual movement before it is too late. No more public homosexuality!
What are your standards of what you consider "public homosexuality"?

As for your "points" about pedophiles, I question your approach in wanting them to be executed in the first place (within assuming you're referring to those who have sex with the underage as opposed to those with the mere sexual attractions) as that kind of punishment goes beyond the crime and as such beyond "an eye for an eye" when I'm not even sure if I agree with it going that far, but your associating them with homosexuals is quite clearly a case of guilt by association. According to the kind of reasoning you apply to the idea of homosexuals adopting, I suppose you shouldn't trust priests with children either. Either way, what makes you think that gay unions would lead to more pedophilia?

Amen brother.

And people tell Fass that 'no one thinks like that anymore'.

Riiiight. All that imaginary persecution just goes to his head.

I cannot keep silent any longer. I do realize that there are some individual homosexuals who are decent (but VERY misguided) people, however the homosexual movement as a whole is truly evil. Homosexuality is a mental disorder and a gateway to pedophilia. Society should outlaw public homosexuality. What people do in their own homes is their business, but homosexuals must not be allowed to spread their abomination in public.

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

The fact of the matter is that the homosexual movement is a kick in the face to society and our children. How can anyone support handing a child over to homosexuals for adoption? There is something truly disturbing about the fact that our society allows homosexuality to be so public. Think of the children! I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

Pedophiles are the worst kind of "people" on this earth and they should be executed by the state for their evil ways. Any convicted pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual, is an incarnation of evil and should be put in the gassing chamber. I think we can all agree on this.

However, people need to realize that homosexuality in public allows for more pedophilia. I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted or anything, but their movement and horrific activism should be immediatly outlawed. No gay "weddings", no gay adoptions, no gay unions, no openly gay public servants, etc. Society has got to stop this love affair with the homosexual movement before it is too late. No more public homosexuality!

Amen brother.

We all have a theory on homosexuality. Let's try it another way and get over our theories and decide what we think about each person based on our interactions with them.

We all have a theory on homosexuality. Let's try it another way and get over our theories and decide what we think about each person based on our interactions with them.

You know, I've done that, and came to my conclusion that all homosexuality and pedophilia are perverted evils that must be stamped out, by hanging if necessary? (More than a few unpleasant experiences, you know...)

You know, I've done that, and came to my conclusion that all homosexuality and pedophilia are perverted evils that must be stamped out, by hanging if necessary? (More than a few unpleasant experiences, you know...)

This has got to be a joke.

I will not give a response to this thread because it is either a joke, or worse, someone actually believes this garbage. Homophobes are insecure little fuckers who aren't happy with themselves. Being anti-gay shows signs of primitive brain functions.

No, being that hostile and intolerant toward people who happen to disagree with you shows signs of primitive brain functions.

You know, I've done that, and came to my conclusion that all homosexuality and pedophilia are perverted evils that must be stamped out, by hanging if necessary? (More than a few unpleasant experiences, you know...)

What were these experiences?

Did they include unsolicited advances, a pat on the ass perhaps?

Welcome to the daily life of most women.

Perhaps all heterosexual men should be gassed as well?

Seriously. Go suck Fred Phelp's cock and then please slit your wrists for the good of society, you ignorant fucking bastard.

I have a better idea; why don't YOU go do that until you learn to be more tolerant of opinions different from your own.

I should probably stay out of this, it isn't my topic, and doubly so because I suspect the OP of trolling...

However, for the sake of honest debate and debate scoring... He did attempt to 'prove it' as you say when he said:

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

True or not is not my point, but he did list multiple national movements and then he shows the link between the accepted group A and the unaccepted sup-group B being empowered through it. To counter that argument we have to show how either the accusations he's made are not true (are the names he said wrong or incorrect?) or we have to show that Group A does not in fact support sub-group B intentionally but that sub-group B attaches itself to group A because it erroneously thinks they can find a common ally there?

But to say "prove it" is not a counter argument after he has already named names and places.
Good point. I cannot speak for the non-US groups, namely because I really don't speak any of those languages and have no wish to do that much research today, but as for NAMBLA and the International Gay and Lesbian Association:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA#Ostracism on speaks of the current status of NAMBLA (Of which there seemingly is none to speak of) and how it has been disowned by the homosexual community at large and ostracized therefrom. Furthermore, it's current "connection" with the gay community of San Francisco seems to consist of having a PO Box and a telephone number registered in San Francisco. This hardly makes a connection as, well, if having a PO Box and a phone number makes a connection, then the Vatican has such a connection thanks to the Catholic churches in SF.

As for IGLA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Gay_and_Lesbian_Association#Controversy_and_loss_of_UN_consultative_status
They disowned any groups that have advocated adult/child sexuality and have passed many resolutions condemning such activity and activism. So our OP is either working with very out of date information (Like 10 to 20 years old) or has ignored the current situation to justify his (or her) views on homosexuality.

Seriously. Go suck Fred Phelp's cock and then please slit your wrists for the good of society, you ignorant fucking bastard.

Warned for flaming.

Warned for flaming.

Thanks, Kat; by the way, could my response to him be considered a flame? If so, I apologize for it. I was not intending to flame.

*snip* the homosexual movement as a whole is truly evil. Homosexuality is a mental disorder and a gateway to pedophilia. Society should outlaw public homosexuality. What people do in their own homes is their business, but homosexuals must not be allowed to spread their abomination in public.

The fact of the matter is that the homosexual movement is a kick in the face to society and our children. How can anyone support handing a child over to homosexuals for adoption? There is something truly disturbing about the fact that our society allows homosexuality to be so public. Think of the children! I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

*snip*

I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted or anything, but their movement and horrific activism should be immediatly outlawed. No gay "weddings", no gay adoptions, no gay unions, no openly gay public servants, etc. Society has got to stop this love affair with the homosexual movement before it is too late. No more public homosexuality!

Whew. You are in need of a serious information session on what homosexuality is, what it's like to be a gay person, how exactly we live, and to be told how to differentiate facts from fiction.

Luckily, I happen to be a volunteer worker in a nonprofit organisation who visits high schools to give students a class about sexual diversity and answer their questions in regard to this, all in the frame of their sex ed class, of course.

I offer you the possibility to ask whatever question you might have about homosexuality and/or what it implies for one's life to be gay. You will probably be surprised how far your ideas are from reality, and how truly alike gay men and women are to heterosexuals.

As for the link to pedophilia, that's a horse that's been beaten to death so often its corpse has been transformed into an unindentifiable bloody pulp. I don't know of even one gay person who supports child molestation, let alone a whole organisation. To state that the gay rights movements are a danger because they promote this is so ludicrous as to be almost dramatically funny. Again, I know of no gay man or lesbian who would hurt or encourage to hurt a child, and believe me when I say that I know many. Find me a credible source where one of the cited organizations state open support for pedophiles, and I'll believe it. But I'm much more willing to believe that it's pedophile organizations who are trying to attach themselves to the gay rights movement in order to gain momentum despite their misgivings and opposition, rather than the gay rights movement being willing to support them.

Seriously. Go suck Fred Phelp's cock and then please slit your wrists for the good of society, you ignorant fucking bastard.

Whoa, let the OP get slammed by the mods, I don't want a civilian to go down because of this dude.

As for Theodosis X.

Dude, you bleed propaganda. I suggest going to the nearest video game store and killing the part of your brain that's been infected.

I have a better idea; why don't YOU go do that until you learn to be more tolerant of opinions different from your own.

Homophobes & Authoritarians do not deserve respect. They should be socially ostracized and mocked as a means of marginalizing them. Inviting them to suicide is fairly vile, though.

Has anyone ever seen the flash "Ultimate Orgy" on Newgrounds? If not, I suggest taking a look. It shows the true menace of gay sex...with Batman and Godzill and Optimus Prime of course but still. I think it illustrates my point. Whatever it was.

Surprise surprise. No follow up post by the OP.

Homophobes & Authoritarians do not deserve respect. They should be socially ostracized and mocked as a means of marginalizing them.

I propose education and information as alternate, more efficient ways of fighting homophobia and ignorance.

Just sayin'

I propose education and information as alternate, more efficient ways of fighting homophobia and ignorance.

Just sayin'


But what if they breed.

Surprise surprise. No follow up post by the OP.

I had noticed that myself. If I don't see anything by tomorrow afternoon, I'ma come to some definite conclusions as opposed to suspicions.

I propose education and information as alternate, more efficient ways of fighting homophobia and ignorance.

Just sayin'

Either that or lots of gay sex

I cannot keep silent any longer. I do realize that there are some individual homosexuals who are decent (but VERY misguided) people, however the homosexual movement as a whole is truly evil. Homosexuality is a mental disorder and a gateway to pedophilia. Society should outlaw public homosexuality. What people do in their own homes is their business, but homosexuals must not be allowed to spread their abomination in public.

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

The fact of the matter is that the homosexual movement is a kick in the face to society and our children. How can anyone support handing a child over to homosexuals for adoption? There is something truly disturbing about the fact that our society allows homosexuality to be so public. Think of the children! I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

Pedophiles are the worst kind of "people" on this earth and they should be executed by the state for their evil ways. Any convicted pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual, is an incarnation of evil and should be put in the gassing chamber. I think we can all agree on this.

However, people need to realize that homosexuality in public allows for more pedophilia. I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted or anything, but their movement and horrific activism should be immediatly outlawed. No gay "weddings", no gay adoptions, no gay unions, no openly gay public servants, etc. Society has got to stop this love affair with the homosexual movement before it is too late. No more public homosexuality!


Really? A group of maybe a couple million worldwide is a threat? Wow, thats almost as bad as the threat that is the swiss military, oh the horror!

I propose education and information as alternate, more efficient ways of fighting homophobia and ignorance.

Just sayin'

Two sides of the culture war. Embarras them and Educate them. While education is nice, it isn't enough on its own.

I should probably stay out of this, it isn't my topic, and doubly so because I suspect the OP of trolling...

However, for the sake of honest debate and debate scoring... He did attempt to 'prove it' as you say when he said:

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

True or not is not my point, but he did list multiple national movements and then he shows the link between the accepted group A and the unaccepted sup-group B being empowered through it. To counter that argument we have to show how either the accusations he's made are not true (are the names he said wrong or incorrect?) or we have to show that Group A does not in fact support sub-group B intentionally but that sub-group B attaches itself to group A because it erroneously thinks they can find a common ally there?

But to say "prove it" is not a counter argument after he has already named names and places.

Um. You appear to be under the rather strange delusion that the OP's bold assertions count as "proof." Hint: they don't.

But at least your delusions aren't as severe or malignant as those of the OP.

Dear Mr. Homophobe,

This is NationStates General. We only tolerate blatant homophobes if they amuse us. You do not amuse us. Go home.

Homophobes & Authoritarians do not deserve respect. They should be socially ostracized and mocked as a means of marginalizing them. Inviting them to suicide is fairly vile, though.

I disagree; I believe in freedom of opinion.

Everybody has a right to their opinion (including you and me, as well as these "homophobes" and "authoritarians"), and should not be treated as less than human just because they disagree with someone else (you, me, Free Socialist Allies, whoever). And nobody should FORCE their beliefs/opinions down another's throat.

I propose education and information as alternate, more efficient ways of fighting homophobia and ignorance.

Just sayin'

Yes, this is a MUCH more acceptable way of changing people's minds than Free Socialist Allies' post.

I disagree; I believe in freedom of opinion.

Everybody has a right to their opinion (including you and me, as well as these "homophobes" and "authoritarians"), and should not be treated as less than human just because they disagree with someone else (you, me, Free Socialist Allies, whoever). And nobody should FORCE their beliefs/opinions down another's throat.

I believe in freedom of opinion as well, which is why I believe that KSP and I (and anyone else) are free to marginalize and ridicule homophobes.

You appear to have freedom of opinion confused with acceptance of opinions and the right to an opinion confused with the right to have one's opinion respected.

Either that or lots of gay sex

I could live with both solutions, actually.

What is an OP? :confused:
Opening Post(er) (Or original) I.e. the start post of the thread, or the poster that what done it.

Surprise surprise. No follow up post by the OP.

What is an OP? :confused:

Everybody has a right to their opinion (including you and me, as well as these "homophobes" and "authoritarians"), and should not be treated as less than human just because they disagree with someone else (you, me, Free Socialist Allies, whoever). And nobody should FORCE their beliefs/opinions down another's throat.

I beleive they have the right to their own opinions, and I beleive I have the right to beleive that they are vile, despicable beings and to fight to change their mind's by every non-violent mean possible. Just like members of the Ku Klux Klan are vile little monsters undeserving of respect, so are homophobes and authoritarians.

And, yes, the comparison is apt.

Dear Mr. Homophobe,

This is NationStates General. We only tolerate blatant homophobes if they amuse us. You do not amuse us. Go home.

Trolls can only go so far... and they are on the endangered species list after all.;)

Um. You appear to be under the rather strange delusion that the OP's bold assertions count as "proof." Hint: they don't.

But at least your delusions aren't as severe or malignant as those of the OP.

Excuse me? Did I say I supported him, or his point? I simply pointed out that he did name names and places as his evidences. And those points have now been addressed by NERVUN (below) sufficiently and the OP has been countered.

Good point. I cannot speak for the non-US groups, namely because I really don't speak any of those languages and have no wish to do that much research today, but as for NAMBLA and the International Gay and Lesbian Association:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA#Ostracism on speaks of the current status of NAMBLA (Of which there seemingly is none to speak of) and how it has been disowned by the homosexual community at large and ostracized therefrom. Furthermore, it's current "connection" with the gay community of San Francisco seems to consist of having a PO Box and a telephone number registered in San Francisco. This hardly makes a connection as, well, if having a PO Box and a phone number makes a connection, then the Vatican has such a connection thanks to the Catholic churches in SF.

As for IGLA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Gay_and_Lesbian_Association#Controversy_and_loss_of_UN_consultative_status
They disowned any groups that have advocated adult/child sexuality and have passed many resolutions condemning such activity and activism. So our OP is either working with very out of date information (Like 10 to 20 years old) or has ignored the current situation to justify his (or her) views on homosexuality.

What delusions are you, The Cat-Tribe, accusing me of presenting in my post? NERVUN seems to of understood my post just fine.

Blah blah blah stupid homophobic nonsense blah.

Y'know, I'm straight as straight can be, but these sorts of posts make me want to go make out with other women purely out of spite.

Opening Post(er) (Or original) I.e. the start post of the thread, or the poster that what done it.

Thanks.

You know, I've done that, and came to my conclusion that all homosexuality and pedophilia are perverted evils that must be stamped out, by hanging if necessary? (More than a few unpleasant experiences, you know...)

Same here.

Unless you've got mice in your pocket, who's this "we" who are agreeing?

I'll include myself.

Really? A group of maybe a couple million worldwide is a threat? Wow, thats almost as bad as the threat that is the swiss military, oh the horror!

Just for the record, there are probably about 670 million homosexuals on Earth.

Oh, and the Swiss military is fucking nasty.

Just for the record, there are probably about 670 million homosexuals on Earth.

Oh, and the Swiss military is fucking nasty.

Still, they're scattered across the world. And besides, the Swiss haven't declared war on any one in several hundred years and were neutral in the world wars, hence the comment about the swiss.

Um. You appear to be under the rather strange delusion that the OP's bold assertions count as "proof." Hint: they don't.

But at least your delusions aren't as severe or malignant as those of the OP.

Excuse me? Did I say I supported him, or his point? I simply pointed out that he did name names and places as his evidences. And those points have now been addressed by NERVUN (below) sufficiently and the OP has been countered.

What delusions are you, The Cat-Tribe, accusing me of presenting in my post? NERVUN seems to of understood my post just fine.

I think I was rather clear about what delusion you were presenting.

Contrary to your assertion, merely making acccusations about various groups did not amount to evidence on the part of the OP.

You are correct, however, that NERVUN's response thoroughly counters the OP and your post.

I had noticed that myself. If I don't see anything by tomorrow afternoon, I'ma come to some definite conclusions as opposed to suspicions.

Fair enough, at least Ska seems willing to actually deal with the issue. i'm too jaded to argue with these kinds of bigots.

And nobody should FORCE their beliefs/opinions down another's throat. However, when a certain belief finds expression in hateful action, that's where the state comes in. And the pointing, the laughing, the ridicule, and the condemnation can proceed it just fine, because that's the joy of freedom of belief. No one can stop another person from being a disgusting homophobe, (and no one is going to stop me from thinking that homophobes are deserving of ridicule)...but they do not have to be tolerated especially once belief turns into discriminatory action.

nm

Same here.

I'll include myself.

Sorry that you feel that way is all there is to say.

Perhaps if you paid a bit more attention to Senator Goldwater you'd recognize the value of true liberty.

I think I was rather clear about what delusion you were presenting.

Contrary to your assertion, merely making acccusations about various groups did not amount to evidence on the part of the OP.

You are correct, however, that NERVUN's response thoroughly counters the OP and your post.

Are you entirely unreasonable? How is my post countered by NERVUN's post at all when I'm on NERVUN's side? I was simply unable to assemble the required material so I stated what was required.

Excuse me? Did I say I supported him, or his point? I simply pointed out that he did name names and places as his evidences. And those points have now been addressed by NERVUN (below) sufficiently and the OP has been countered.

What delusions are you, The Cat-Tribe, accusing me of presenting in my post? NERVUN seems to of understood my post just fine.

Generally it makes sense that s/he who asserts must prove. You simply seemed to be under the mistaken impression that the OP actually proved something, or provided 'evidence', causing one to wonder at the extremely low standard you seen to have regarding what constitutes 'proof' and 'evidence' in a debate.

I'll include myself.
Nice, so one troll, and two admitted homophobes.

*points and laughs*

Generally it makes sense that s/he who asserts must prove. You simply seemed to be under the mistaken impression that the OP actually proved something, or provided 'evidence', causing one to wonder at the extremely low standard you seen to have regarding what constitutes 'proof' and 'evidence' in a debate.


The OP made accusations with names and places and supposed associations. Those accusations had to be debunked, the post I responded to said "prove it" to the OP without addressing the names and associations already in play.

NERVUN's post debunked the evidences presented in the OP (which I was not able to do myself but felt sure they could be debunked by someone in the know of those groups).

That's how debates works, posit, counter posit. I didn't assert that the OP had already won any points.

I smell a dirty fundamentalist.

Same here.



I'll include myself.


Your terror and hatred of homosexuality can be confronted, you know. Talk to a psychologist, and maybe they can help you work out your irrational fear in a healthy and safe environment.

I agree. Unless he comes up with something along the lines of "gays trying to fire a beam into the earth's core", I give him a distant last place.

Dude, don't you know every zombie movie from Night of the Living Dead onwards is an allegorical warning about the Homosexual Menace? Homosexuality is a contagious virus. If a gay man or a lesbian bites or hugs you, you're doomed to become one of them with no cure except a bullet through the brain. That's how society collapses, when a mass outbreak of rampant homosexuality means the extinction of humanity.

And that is how you go over the top with satire. If you actually believed this to be a serious post, I worry for you and everyone around you.

The OP made accusations with names and places and supposed associations. Those accusations had to be debunked, the post I responded to said "prove it" to the OP without addressing the names and associations already in play.

NERVUN's post debunked the evidences presented in the OP (which I was not able to do myself but felt sure they could be debunked by someone in the know of those groups).

That's how debates works, posit, counter posit. I didn't assert that the OP had already won any points.

You did, however, state that OP had given proof that merited countering...when in fact, he had not. He had made accusations that were then well debunked, but he did not in fact present evidence of any sort. Once again, this suggests a very low standard of proof and evidence.

I understand where you are coming from on this, but some of us get tired of debunking the same tired, trolling bullshit over and over again. Having you tell us that said bullshit constitutes proof, or evidence, is a little insulting to the level of intelligence I like to think most posters here are capable of.

I feel the same way about left-handed people.

They're clearly not the norm, they really could use their right-hands if they wanted.

In fact, back in the day, my father was made to write using his right-hand so it's obviously possible.

I'm not going to make any attempt to find actual facts but I will state here and now.


Left-handed people murder more puppies than right-handed people.
Left-handed people never pay parking tickets.
Left-handed people are over-represented in the Government, clearly showing their natural evil intent.

Left-handed people look stupid when they write, just stooopid.

Left-handed people are always whining about how the world is set up for right-handed people, they should just leave the planet if they don't like it.

Down with the lefties!

Down with the lefties!

Your right-handed fascism cannot be abided, my majority-handed foe! We shall fight in France! We shall fight you on the seas and oceans! We shall fight with growing confidence (once we figure out these goddamn Right-hand-biased joysticks) and strength in the air!

It's also in the Bible

Matthew 25:41

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

It's a long-held belief as well.

“According to superstitions, the right hand is the hand of God while the left hand is the hand of the Devil. For this reason, left-handed people were recognized with scorn and dread in the past, and left-handed children were forced to write with their right hand in hopes that they might ‘learn’ to become right-handed. The superstition around the left and right sides of the body can be linked to very ancient beliefs about a world divided in clear and polar opposites — male and female, light and dark, strong and weak — where the left hand was linked with all negative things. Ritual oaths and gestures were always performed with the right hand, and evil spirits, witches and demons were always confronted with a raised right hand, perhaps while drawing the sign of the cross in the air. For the same reason, amulets depicting hands are always carved in the shape of a right, not a left hand.”

From Black Cats and April Fools by Harry Oliver (Metro, $14.95, Pages 90-91)

How come left-handed people are given a pass when homosexuals get all the bile? How come we've accepted them into society after years of oppression.

It's a conspiracy I tell you!

You did, however, state that OP had given proof that merited countering...when in fact, he had not. He had made accusations that were then well debunked, but he did not in fact present evidence of any sort. Once again, this suggests a very low standard of proof and evidence.
...

IN my defense, at the time of my first post in this thread, those accusations and associations had NOT been debunked or even addressed yet, at all. They have been debunked now because NERVUN answered my post (which was, after all, my intention in posting at all, to get someone to debunk them by stating what had to be shown/said).

The attack on me for requesting the debunking seems to be nothing more than entirely misplaced aggression.

*snip*

Since you're probably the Christian type, I have two quotes for you.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

"Judge not lest ye be judged"

It's a long-held belief as well.

Indeed. Just remember people- the latin word for left is sinister.
The Romans were wise !

Indeed. Just remember people- the latin word for left is sinister.
The Romans were wise !

I don't really mind people being left-handed in private - it's just this whole left-handed 'lifestyle' that sickens me.

I mean, they actually flaunt it when it's clearly an abomination.

They'll be asking to adopt children next, probably so they can abuse those children with left-hand values, values like 'tolerance' and 'acceptance of difference', teach them to see left-handed people as just like anyone else except they use their left-hand.

We cannot stand for it.

Kinda Sensible People - Your right-handed fascism cannot be abided, my majority-handed foe! We shall fight in France! We shall fight you on the seas and oceans! We shall fight with growing confidence (once we figure out these goddamn Right-hand-biased joysticks) and strength in the air!

See! They clearly support terrorism as well, associating themselves with cheese-eating surrender monkeys!

I feel the same way about left-handed people.

They're clearly not the norm, they really could use their right-hands if they wanted.

In fact, back in the day, my father was made to write using his right-hand so it's obviously possible.

I'm not going to make any attempt to find actual facts but I will state here and now.


Left-handed people murder more puppies than right-handed people.
Left-handed people never pay parking tickets.
Left-handed people are over-represented in the Government, clearly showing their natural evil intent.

Left-handed people look stupid when they write, just stooopid.

Left-handed people are always whining about how the world is set up for right-handed people, they should just leave the planet if they don't like it.

Down with the lefties!

Perhaps someone else already asked this ... but how can you truly tell over the internet? :eek:

Left-handed people murder more puppies than right-handed people.
Left-handed people never pay parking tickets.
Left-handed people are over-represented in the Government, clearly showing their natural evil intent.


Three of the last six U.S. presidents have been left-handed (true)! It's a conspiracy! The left-handed agenda is slowly winning over our children!

How come left-handed people are given a pass when homosexuals get all the bile? How come we've accepted them into society after years of oppression.

It's a conspiracy I tell you!

Bit more recent than you might think on the handedness part. I still have fond memories of having my knuckles beaten with a ruler for using "the wrong hand." I'm rather sure that either I or my twin brother would be a lefty if it weren't for the psychotic yardstick toting Sisters at our Catholic elementary school.


Still, they're scattered across the world. And besides, the Swiss haven't declared war on any one in several hundred years and were neutral in the world wars, hence the comment about the swiss.
That you've heard of. All the wars they've fought ended with the extinction of their foes, leaving none to tell the tales. Even now, the Swiss war machine is gearing up to destroy us all! We're doomed, I tell you! DOOMED!

*writes up sign welcoming our new Swiss overlords*

I don't really mind people being left-handed in private - it's just this whole left-handed 'lifestyle' that sickens me.

I mean, they actually flaunt it when it's clearly an abomination.

Not to mention their rejection of knowledge ! I mean, what do they have against Dexter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter%27s_Laboratory) anyway ?

I smell a dirty fundamentalist.

I smell someone who's going to get warned for flaming if they don't knock the namecalling off.

Homosexuality is a mental disorder

"Psychologists, psychiatrists, and other mental health professionals agree that homosexuality is not an illness, a mental disorder, or an emotional problem. More than 35 years of objective, well-designed scientific research has shown that homosexuality, in and itself, is not associated with mental disorders or emotional or social problems. Homosexuality was once thought to be a mental illness because mental health professionals and society had biased information."

Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality (http://apahelpcenter.org/articles/article.php?id=31)

Sorry... I trust them over you. :rolleyes:

and a gateway to pedophilia.

There's not a shred of evidence for that.

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it.

Yes, there is a tradition of some of the more radical elements in the gay rights movement supporting the legalization of mutually consensual relationships between adults and children as part of a broader ideology of sexual liberation.

Many straight people of similar radical political sympathies in that respect, and without any substantial association with the gay rights movement, have supported the same.

What does that prove? Only that there exist people who disagree with you, and some of them are gay. :rolleyes:

The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups.

Actually they expelled all four under pressure.

How can anyone support handing a child over to homosexuals for adoption?

Because we support equality.

There is something truly disturbing about the fact that our society allows homosexuality to be so public.

What is truly "disturbing" is that our society still so often confines homosexuality to private locations.

Think of the children!

Indeed! Let the children grow up in an environment where they know they will be supported whether it is people of the same or the opposite sex with whom they happen to fall in love. Let them grow up learning to respect love of all kinds.

I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

Such family values! Your child getting hurt or murdered by criminals is nothing compared to seeing people of the same sex expressing their love for one another....

Pedophiles are the worst kind of "people" on this earth and they should be executed by the state for their evil ways. Any convicted pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual, is an incarnation of evil and should be put in the gassing chamber. I think we can all agree on this.

Actually I agree with absolutely nothing in that.

However, people need to realize that homosexuality in public allows for more pedophilia.

Utter bullshit.

I smell someone who's going to get warned for flaming if they don't knock the namecalling off.

Why are you defending the OP?

the homosexual movement as a whole is truly evil. Homosexuality is a mental disorder and a gateway to pedophilia. Society should outlaw public homosexuality. What people do in their own homes is their business, but homosexuals must not be allowed to spread their abomination in public.


Only one answer possible. Read this:

Rosa Winkel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle

If you really believe pedophilia is such a grave evil, and that even support for the elimination or substantial reduction in the age of consent is a problem, you should be an adamant supporter of gay rights.

Keep restricting gay rights, and the pro-pedophile activists can maintain that the legal prohibitions against adult-child sex are simply part of the same bigoted sexual puritanism that restricts homosexuality. They can say, "How can you so trust in the capability of government to regulate our sex lives when they so horribly abuse it?"

But let homosexuality (and bisexuality) take its rightful place of equality beside heterosexuality, and you take all the force out of that argument... you can emphasize that pedophilia, because of the age of one of the participants, is a special case.

Deliberate mis-statement of fact, no attempts to provide evidence for claims, posting and running. The smell of troll is heavy in the air.

Why are you defending the OP?

She's a mod. She's on a mission from God(Max Barry) to defend the forum and it's denizens from....well from each other. Even if they happen to hate teh gheys, Kat and Super Justice Mod Squad League Now! will smite those who flame them with their mighty Ban Hammers!

Oh yeah, we're totally out to get you. You have no idea. Better watch your back. And the children. Yeah, we eat children for breakfast. And gay marriage is totally just a sham for getting more children for eating. And our salt mines. You totally forgot to mention the salt mines.

We also killed the dinosaurs. And global warming is totally our fault. And that tsunami in Asia. And 9-11. Yeah, we're pretty freaking powerful like that, better watch out.

~Merric

Oh yeah, we're totally out to get you. You have no idea. Better watch your back. And the children. Yeah, we eat children for breakfast. And gay marriage is totally just a sham for getting more children for eating. And our salt mines. You totally forgot to mention the salt mines.

We also killed the dinosaurs. And global warming is totally our fault. And that tsunami in Asia. And 9-11. Yeah, we're pretty freaking powerful like that, better watch out.

~Merric

We know you were the ones lobbying the Air Force to make that Gay Bomb. And we know you're working on that Gay Virus so you can all engineer the Dawn of the Queer and wipe out all God-fearing heterosexual society as we now know it.

We're keeping an eye on you.

Oh yeah, we're totally out to get you. You have no idea. Better watch your back. And the children. Yeah, we eat children for breakfast. And gay marriage is totally just a sham for getting more children for eating. And our salt mines. You totally forgot to mention the salt mines.

We also killed the dinosaurs. And global warming is totally our fault. And that tsunami in Asia. And 9-11. Yeah, we're pretty freaking powerful like that, better watch out.

~Merric

So basicly.. the gays are God ?
Hmm. Perhaps I should start worshipping.

Provide facts, or we'll just assume you're another knee-jerk anti-gay. I've never seen any proof for this, just a variety of groups stating it "because it's obvious, y'see!"

Prove it.

Who needs proof when you have such logical justification of anti-PDA rules?

As you can see in the OP, homosexuality is the gateway drug of perversion!

Why are you defending the OP?

From whence did you make that amazing leap of logic? Do you think that just because the OP's post is controversial and probably offensive, the rules don't apply?

I think this shit was written by a homosexual. Or someone trying to troll/joke .. or trying to stir shit up. Can I prove it? No. Can you prove otherwise? No. Check Mate.

I had an idea but Barringtonia used a part of it ... eheh ... i mean ... try and change the word "homosexual", and related uses of it in the OP message, with whatever you want: "sound engineers", "pizza eaters", "pokemon" ... it works ...
and anyway ... i think that answers to the "problems" the OP pointed out were given in a serious way ... let's joke about it and stop shouting out "i'm right, go eat your shit" ...

I cannot keep silent any longer.

Then shut up.

I do realize that there are some individual homosexuals who are decent (but VERY misguided) people, however the homosexual movement as a whole is truly evil.

I am not sure about that.

Homosexuality is a mental disorder

Source?

and a gateway to pedophilia.

Source?

What people do in their own homes is their business, but homosexuals must not be allowed to spread their abomination in public.

Why is it an abomination?

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it.

Source?

The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation".

Source?

NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community.[QUOTE]

So?

[QUOTE]The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups.

Source?

Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

Source?

The fact of the matter is that the homosexual movement is a kick in the face to society and our children.

I don't think so.

How can anyone support handing a child over to homosexuals for adoption?

Homosexuals are mostly good people who work hard to earn a living. They offer a much more stable home.

There is something truly disturbing about the fact that our society allows homosexuality to be so public. Think of the children! I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

I don't think you should have children. You will be polluting the gene pool.



The rest of your post is the same crap.

From whence did you make that amazing leap of logic? Do you think that just because the OP's post is controversial and probably offensive, the rules don't apply?

So you think its acceptable to post hate speech on the internet?

So you think its acceptable to post hate speech on the internet?

Wasn't there a little troll whining about there not being free speech here ?
Well - this is free speech as well. Up to the forumgods to decide if they like it or not.

Personally however I would prefer it if hatespeech had to be accompanied with backing evidence. You wish to state that people with purple skin are dirty ? Show the statistics that prove they wash themselves less often. That sort of thing.

But that is just me.

So you think its acceptable to post hate speech on the internet?

That's irrelevant. She enforces the rules of this site, not her own sense of right and wrong.

And speaking of wrong, if you think that the OP breaks the rules then this is the wrong place to get anything done about it.

The OP hasn't actually said a single word in reply. Does anyone else smell a wind up? The OP is almost too extreme to actually believe

Probably a closet homosexual himself. Don't self loathe, dude, being gay is alright.

Theodosis - you are a prick.

[snip]

Trolls live on flames. Please, don't flame the trolls.

So you think its acceptable to post hate speech on the internet?

I'm sorry, are you in the habit of putting words into people's mouths? Or do you have some problem which makes you make these logic-defying leaps? That's pretty much the definition of trolling.

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

Theodosis - you are a prick.

Knock it off.

Dude, don't you know every zombie movie from Night of the Living Dead onwards is an allegorical warning about the Homosexual Menace? Homosexuality is a contagious virus. If a gay man or a lesbian bites or hugs you, you're doomed to become one of them with no cure except a bullet through the brain. That's how society collapses, when a mass outbreak of rampant homosexuality means the extinction of humanity.

And that is how you go over the top with satire. If you actually believed this to be a serious post, I worry for you and everyone around you.

I thought those movies were about the Red Menace and their vile brainwashing ways.

But it's essentially the same thing in the end.

Snip... I think we can all agree that... Snip.

I think we can all agree that this kind of attack on homosexuality tends to come from closeted homosexuals.

I think we can all agree that this kind of attack on homosexuality tends to come from closeted homosexuals.

I've never understood that type of logic. Indeed if we follow it to it's logical conclusion we can clearly see that those amongst us who preach hate for the black man, are closet black men!:rolleyes:

Perhaps all heterosexual men should be gassed as well?

*Seinfeld tone* But I don't WANNA be gassed! :(

I've never understood that type of logic. Indeed if we follow it to it's logical conclusion we can clearly see that those amongst us who preach hate for the black man, are closet black men!:rolleyes:

Maybe they wish they were. Closeted homosexuality, however, has been shown, time and again, to cause this kind of reaction on the person. It's a ruder version of the "sour grapes" fable.

Maybe they wish they were. Closeted homosexuality, however, has been shown, time and again, to cause this kind of reaction on the person. It's a ruder version of the "sour grapes" fable.

Aahhh I don't know, there are plenty of anti gay people that I know, that just don't like homosexulality (surfice to say many of them are Christian). I think it does not do any cause, any good, to write off it's opponents in this fashion, it only fosters more ill will.(Man could I sound any more liberal?):D

Aahhh I don't know, there are plenty of anti gay people that I know, that just don't like homosexulality (surfice to say many of them are Christian). I think it does not do any cause, any good, to write off it's opponents in this fashion, it only fosters more ill will.(Man could I sound any more liberal?):D

Sorry, man, but the evidence is there, such as many politicians that are rabidly anti-gay until they're found, y'know, performing fellatio.

Furthermore, all they gay-bashing can perfectly be seen as a way to try and chastise oneself for their own urges.

Plus, it's not about writing them off; I'd argue with them, but their opinion is so fringe and outlandish that I don't need to.

Isnt it odd that the Moderators are only warning those who are insulting the OP?
Not really, considering the behaviors in question.

Isnt it odd that the Moderators are only warning those who are insulting the OP?

It is?

Some homophobes turn out to be gay = all homophobes are gay ?

Interesting logic

No one fixates on gay sex that much less they're whackin it thinkin about some big black dude's dong.

I've discovered PETA's awful secret, I've noticed that Smithfield packing CO and PETA's HQ are both in Norfolk, VA.... THERE IS A CONNECTION!

Dear Theodosis X,

We find you amusing. We shall keep you around as the court fool.

It is?

Some homophobes turn out to be gay = all homophobes are gay ?

Interesting logic

Find one homophobe who isn't, and the idea is disproven ;)

Sorry, man, but the evidence is there, such as many politicians that are rabidly anti-gay until they're found, y'know, performing fellatio.

.

It is?

Some homophobes turn out to be gay = all homophobes are gay ?

Interesting logic

No one fixates on gay sex that much less they're whackin it thinkin about some big black dude's dong.

Well if you want to call it a hypothesis then fair enough but i'd hardly call it evidence

Find one homophobe who isn't, and the idea is disproven ;)

:p

I cannot keep silent any longer. I do realize that there are some individual homosexuals who are decent (but VERY misguided) people,

Misguided? So because they dont follow your warped worldview then they are misguided?



however the homosexual movement as a whole is truly evil. Homosexuality is a mental disorder and a gateway to pedophilia.

Prove it.


Society should outlaw public homosexuality. What people do in their own homes is their business, but homosexuals must not be allowed to spread their abomination in public.

Why? Are you scared of somthing that doesnt fit into your blinkered view of the world?


If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.


So, because there are some bad gay people, gay people are bad? Nice logic there.

The fact of the matter is that the homosexual movement is a kick in the face to society and our children. How can anyone support handing a child over to homosexuals for adoption? There is something truly disturbing about the fact that our society allows homosexuality to be so public. Think of the children! I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

Did you just say think of the children? Helen Lovejoy, is that you?

Pedophiles are the worst kind of "people" on this earth and they should be executed by the state for their evil ways. Any convicted pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual, is an incarnation of evil and should be put in the gassing chamber. I think we can all agree on this.

No we cant. And I find it disgusting that you put people in commas.

However, people need to realize that homosexuality in public allows for more pedophilia. I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted or anything,

I'm sorry, weren't you saying how gays should be put in to gas chambers? Like ONE SENTANCE AGO?



but their movement and horrific activism should be immediatly outlawed. No gay "weddings", no gay adoptions, no gay unions, no openly gay public servants, etc. Society has got to stop this love affair with the homosexual movement before it is too late. No more public homosexuality!



I think that they should ban people like you from procreating, that would benifit society.

I think that they should ban people like you from procreating, that would benifit society.
Um, can anyone say ‘troll’?

Rising to the idiocy does you no favours.

Another member of the Westboro Baptist Church on NS? :p

Westboro Baptist Church members are vile traitors to our country and they are anti-Christian. God hates the Westboro Baptist Church. I personally am a Catholic, albeit an imperfect one.

Well I'll be damned, he actually posted again.

Westboro Baptist Church members are vile traitors to our country and they are anti-Christian. God hates the Westboro Baptist Church. I personally am a Catholic, albeit an imperfect one.

A Catholic talking about child molesters? Man clean out your own house first. NAMBLA has nothing on the enablers from the Vatican on down.

Since you're probably the Christian type, I have two quotes for you.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

"Judge not lest ye be judged"

I am a Catholic, but I am not a fundamentalist. My opposition to homosexuality comes from common sense.

A Catholic talking about child molesters? Man clean out your own house first. NAMBLA has nothing on the enablers from the Vatican on down.


The HOMOSEXUALS who infiltrated the priesthood are a disgrace. The tragedy the befell the Church should show the world the dangers of homosexuality.

Isnt it odd that the Moderators are only warning those who are insulting the OP?
No, not at all. Mods generally warn people who insult others. It's kinda what they do, ya see.
Well I'll be damned, he actually posted again.

And ignored all the posts that counter his OP, and all the ones who dismiss him as being a troll and instead respons to one post that is of very little relevance to the thread.

Firstly, I have had to outrun homosexual pedophiles THREE times. I was followed in a car by one, I had to outrun one in a mall, and I had to outrun one on a beach (near a town that was full of homosexuals). Two I managed to escape from, and one I turned and confronted and I threatened to knock him out and call the cops if he didn't leave me alone.

I do not hate the homsexual as an individual. If I ever encounter a homosexual I am polite and treat them as anyone else. I even know one who goes to the same boatyard as me and I talk with him occasionally. So I am not a "nazi gay-hating fanatic" as everyone here slanders me.

However I do believe the homosexual lifestyle to be truly evil and a disgrace to society. Is it any coincedence all 3 great religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) denounce the homosexual cult? All of you liberals are the ones who have a "holier than thou" elitist attitude and you proudly boast how you are going to create a utopia where "Civil Rights" flourish. You claim to be so "advanced" and "intellectual". You are ruining a society and creating a new one where children are the victims, be it from abortion or pedophiles. In 50 years when homosexuals get all their "civil rights" this society is going to be ruined beyond repair.

Classic flamebaiting.

Which make me wonder why so many rise to the flambaiting?

One can only assume that they don't realise it's just flamebaiting.

And ignored all the posts that counter his OP, and all the ones who dismiss him as being a troll and instead respons to one post that is of very little relevance to the thread.
Classic flamebaiting.

Which make me wonder why so many rise to the flambaiting?

I personally am a Catholic, albeit an imperfect one.

That's the first thing you said that didn't make you sound like a raving lunatic.

What I really wonder is how much we have a typically so-called offensive OP, which is allowed, and then those people who are 'flaming' the OP are called on by moderators.

This might be seen to justify certain viewpoints held about mod bias, as it closely follows a cartoon recently seen here. People make offensive posts about an offensive OP and are warned over it.

Of course, having an offensive opinion about *something* over making an offensive comment about *someone* are different things.

I wonder if the difference is understood.

Of course, having an offensive opinion about *something* over making an offensive comment about *someone* are different things.

I wonder if the difference is understood.

Clearly it's not understood by everyone.

What seems most mysterious about this entire thread is how both sides seem utterly certain they're in the right and are able to convince anyone opposing them just with a few lines of text. Speaking as a homosexual, if the OP's opinion is that we gays cause paedophilia, I'll be a little hurt inside that people can be so ignorant, but I won't attack him/her personally because of it. Civilized discussion between both parties is what is needed here, and I'm begging the moderators to close this thread if we can't have that civility.

Westboro Baptist Church members are vile traitors to our country and they are anti-Christian. God hates the Westboro Baptist Church. I personally am a Catholic, albeit an imperfect one.

You'd also seem to be a rather poor troll, sir, or do you have some evidence to back up your rather amusing homophobic rant?

Classic flamebaiting.

Which make me wonder why so many rise to the flambaiting?

Cuz it's fun. :p

Funny, I think heterosexuality (particularly Catholic heterosexuality; you guys fuck like rabid spider monkeys) is a menace to our "society." Too many fucking people in the world already, destroying the land, the planet, the animals, and anything else we can get our hands on. At least the homos don't procreate. They actually adopt the poor kids who are already here, which you should applaud, as a member of the world's premier anti-abortion squad.

Cuz it's fun. :p

Funny, I think heterosexuality (particularly Catholic heterosexuality; you guys fuck like rabid spider monkeys) is a menace to our "society." Too many fucking people in the world already, destroying the land, the planet, the animals, and anything else we can get our hands on. At least the homos don't procreate. They actually adopt the poor kids who are already here, which you should applaud, as a member of the world's premier anti-abortion squad.

Who are we to say there is not enough land to go around? Homosexual adoption is a menace to children. I think most kids would rather be up for adoption until age 18 instead of being taken by homosexuals.

You'd also seem to be a rather poor troll, sir, or do you have some evidence to back up your rather amusing homophobic rant?

I pointed out a link between 4 large homosexual groups and pedophila. Its all around you, you are just too blind to see it.

What's truly incredible about this thread is how both sides seem utterly certain that they're in the right and that they can actually change the opinion of people opposing them in the discussion with a few lines of text. Speaking as a homosexual male, if the OP wants to say something like homosexuality being a gateway cause to paedophilia, I'll be somewhat hurt but I won't be attacking him/her personally because its his/her opinion. Civilized discussion is what is needed here, and I beg the moderators to close this thread if we can't become that civil.
/endrant
On topic, does it even matter? Can anyone on this forum really figure out who's gay and who isn't without knowing the person? Since the vast majority of us can't, what on earth should it matter about we do in private OR public? Certainly we gays don't call for heterosexual acts to be forbidden in public the way the OP calls for homosexual acts to be only in private.





(ps, if my other post comes through, this will look really retarded on my part)

I stand more than a little disappointed that no one took up my offer to answer any questions about homosexuality or what it's like to be a gay persons. Seems like the OP and the one person who stated agreement with him chose to miss an opportunity to have first-hand, solid information on which to base their opinions.

Mayhaps I should begin my own thread and have a meaningful discussion with people who have at least the sort of intellectual integrity and curiosity to challenge their own beliefs by putting them face-to-face with reality.

I'm disappointed, but not surprised.

I cannot keep silent any longer. I do realize that there are some individual homosexuals who are decent (but VERY misguided) people, however the homosexual movement as a whole is truly evil. Homosexuality is a mental disorder and a gateway to pedophilia. Society should outlaw public homosexuality. What people do in their own homes is their business, but homosexuals must not be allowed to spread their abomination in public.

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

The fact of the matter is that the homosexual movement is a kick in the face to society and our children. How can anyone support handing a child over to homosexuals for adoption? There is something truly disturbing about the fact that our society allows homosexuality to be so public. Think of the children! I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

Pedophiles are the worst kind of "people" on this earth and they should be executed by the state for their evil ways. Any convicted pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual, is an incarnation of evil and should be put in the gassing chamber. I think we can all agree on this.

However, people need to realize that homosexuality in public allows for more pedophilia. I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted or anything, but their movement and horrific activism should be immediatly outlawed. No gay "weddings", no gay adoptions, no gay unions, no openly gay public servants, etc. Society has got to stop this love affair with the homosexual movement before it is too late. No more public homosexuality!

Heil Hitler! (Nazi salute)

Something Plato said many thousands of years ago springs brightly to mind:
"Homosexuality, is regarded as shameful by barbarians and by those who live under despotic governments just as philosophy is regarded as shameful by them, because it is apparently not in the interest of such rulers to have great ideas engendered in their subjects, or powerful friendships or passionate love-all of which homosexuality is particularly apt to produce."
You see the problem people have with homosexuality is a problem concerning heterosexuals trying to offload the problems they have created onto homosexuals, they look at the surplus income gay men and women are apt to have, and they look at the percentage of straight men that turn to crime then the percentage of gay men turning to crime, and cry realising that actually misogynistic straight men are the menace of modern society, and the majority of straight men that know this and seek to correct are lovely people that should not be tarred with the same brush as the rest of the caste, we should not seek to persecute them, just re-educate.

I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted or anything, but their movement and horrific activism should be immediatly outlawed. No gay "weddings", no gay adoptions, no gay unions, no openly gay public servants, etc. Society has got to stop this love affair with the homosexual movement before it is too late. No more public homosexuality!

Read: "I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted, but I do think homosexuals should be persecuted!"

I should probably stay out of this, it isn't my topic, and doubly so because I suspect the OP of trolling...

However, for the sake of honest debate and debate scoring... He did attempt to 'prove it' as you say when he said:

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

True or not is not my point, but he did list multiple national movements and then he shows the link between the accepted group A and the unaccepted sup-group B being empowered through it. To counter that argument we have to show how either the accusations he's made are not true (are the names he said wrong or incorrect?) or we have to show that Group A does not in fact support sub-group B intentionally but that sub-group B attaches itself to group A because it erroneously thinks they can find a common ally there?

But to say "prove it" is not a counter argument after he has already named names and places.

He did not prove anything. He made several assertions, then failed to provide any documentation to substantiate his assertions. He simply relied on the false "every decent person agrees with me, so no proof is necessary" arguement. We don't have to show anything. He made the accusation: the burden of proof is on him.

Whew. You are in need of a serious information session on what homosexuality is, what it's like to be a gay person, how exactly we live, and to be told how to differentiate facts from fiction.

Luckily, I happen to be a volunteer worker in a nonprofit organisation who visits high schools to give students a class about sexual diversity and answer their questions in regard to this, all in the frame of their sex ed class, of course.

I offer you the possibility to ask whatever question you might have about homosexuality and/or what it implies for one's life to be gay. You will probably be surprised how far your ideas are from reality, and how truly alike gay men and women are to heterosexuals.

As for the link to pedophilia, that's a horse that's been beaten to death so often its corpse has been transformed into an unindentifiable bloody pulp. I don't know of even one gay person who supports child molestation, let alone a whole organisation. To state that the gay rights movements are a danger because they promote this is so ludicrous as to be almost dramatically funny. Again, I know of no gay man or lesbian who would hurt or encourage to hurt a child, and believe me when I say that I know many. Find me a credible source where one of the cited organizations state open support for pedophiles, and I'll believe it. But I'm much more willing to believe that it's pedophile organizations who are trying to attach themselves to the gay rights movement in order to gain momentum despite their misgivings and opposition, rather than the gay rights movement being willing to support them.

My friend, you are trying to speak rationally to an irrational person. The coin could be flipped on him and it would make a lot more sense. Here it goes and I don't even believe this to be true.

Being Christian is a choice. People who choose to be Christians support the Catholic Church and its pedophilia. Christians should be tried, convicted, and burned alive for the choices they have made. Christianity is a mental disorder and all those who subscribe to it are sick and twisted individuals who wish to rape and touch children. We must rid ourselves of this horrible menace before they take over. We can all agree on that can't we? They should not be allowed to be married. Anyone who mentions Jesus Christ in public shall be stoned to death. Anyone who tried to convert others to this religion of the devil should be boiled in oil. Let us unite against all the Christians of the world.

Utter nonsense OP and how about a little vacation for trolling since he appears to have ran away and given up on debate.

I cannot keep silent any longer. I do realize that there are some individual homosexuals who are decent (but VERY misguided) people, however the homosexual movement as a whole is truly evil. Homosexuality is a mental disorder and a gateway to pedophilia. Society should outlaw public homosexuality. What people do in their own homes is their business, but homosexuals must not be allowed to spread their abomination in public.

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

The fact of the matter is that the homosexual movement is a kick in the face to society and our children. How can anyone support handing a child over to homosexuals for adoption? There is something truly disturbing about the fact that our society allows homosexuality to be so public. Think of the children! I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

Pedophiles are the worst kind of "people" on this earth and they should be executed by the state for their evil ways. Any convicted pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual, is an incarnation of evil and should be put in the gassing chamber. I think we can all agree on this.

However, people need to realize that homosexuality in public allows for more pedophilia. I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted or anything, but their movement and horrific activism should be immediatly outlawed. No gay "weddings", no gay adoptions, no gay unions, no openly gay public servants, etc. Society has got to stop this love affair with the homosexual movement before it is too late. No more public homosexuality!

Since I find PDAs of any variety more than a little irksome, how about no more public sexuality.

Really, grow up. Most of the gay men I know are lovely, pleasant, much-abused, intelligent people. I've only met two out of hundreds that I would call jerks. I've met many more jerky straight men.

My opposition to homosexuality comes from common sense.

All evidence to the contrary...


I pointed out a link between 4 large homosexual groups and pedophila. Its all around you, you are just too blind to see it.

No, you asserted that such a link exists. You have yet to prove that link.

Firstly, I have had to outrun homosexual pedophiles THREE times.

Um, first, that sounds like nonsense to me.

Second, even if it's true, it's anecdotal, and doesn't really prove anything.

The vast majority of pedophiles are straight. This is a well-established fact.

Firstly, I have had to outrun homosexual pedophiles THREE times. I was followed in a car by one, I had to outrun one in a mall, and I had to outrun one on a beach (near a town that was full of homosexuals). Two I managed to escape from, and one I turned and confronted and I threatened to knock him out and call the cops if he didn't leave me alone.

I call bullshit. Did you know for a fact that whoever was harassing you was gay? Moreover, if you were being followed in a car, how do you know he was even following you at all, let alone for paedophilic reasons? Your "eamples" sound far too vague and fishy to be taken at face value. Especially when you use phrases like "a town full of homosexuals".

I do not hate the homsexual as an individual. If I ever encounter a homosexual I am polite and treat them as anyone else. I even know one who goes to the same boatyard as me and I talk with him occasionally. So I am not a "nazi gay-hating fanatic" as everyone here slanders me.

Treat them as anyone else except for imagining that they're following you in their cars or chasing you. We're not slandering you so much as laughing at your outrageous and clearly exaggerated claims. Do you cross the street when someone of a different race is coming up the sidewalk, too (or is it just for black people)?

However I do believe the homosexual lifestyle to be truly evil and a disgrace to society. Is it any coincedence all 3 great religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) denounce the homosexual cult? All of you liberals are the ones who have a "holier than thou" elitist attitude and you proudly boast how you are going to create a utopia where "Civil Rights" flourish. You claim to be so "advanced" and "intellectual". You are ruining a society and creating a new one where children are the victims, be it from abortion or pedophiles. In 50 years when homosexuals get all their "civil rights" this society is going to be ruined beyond repair.

It is no coincidence that all three Abrahamic religions denounce homosexuality because they're all fairly similar. Please explain, beyond your false claims, how children are being victimized. You can't, but please do try. I need the amusement. Abortion isn't on the table in this thread, so you can stop that crap right there. If this society is to be ruined, it won't be by homosexuals. It will be by hyper-reactive bigots like you who see evil wherever they see things they don't like or don't understand.

Who are we to say there is not enough land to go around? Homosexual adoption is a menace to children. I think most kids would rather be up for adoption until age 18 instead of being taken by homosexuals.

Who are we to say? We're people who look around and realize that SEVEN BILLION PEOPLE, with more every day, cannot possibly share the limited resources this planet has. Why else is a third of the world starving and/or in poverty?

I pointed out a link between 4 large homosexual groups and pedophila. Its all around you, you are just too blind to see it.

You pointed out links between groups that are at least 15 years old. NERVUN already destroyed your premise based on those now-non-existent links. Try again, you sad, sad man.

I pointed out a link between 4 large homosexual groups and pedophila.

Actually, you only named three... NAMBLA is a pedophile advocacy group. And your assertions regarding the other three are unsourced.

Even if it's true, though... so what? Some gay rights activists also support the pro-pedophile movement. That proves nothing about the case for gay rights, or about gays in general. It's an extended combination of guilt by association and ad hominem.

O_o




My GOD what has happened here?! What IS happening here?!

All of you liberals are the ones who have a "holier than thou" elitist attitude

That's because we're right and you're wrong, and your bigotry, like all the other kinds of bigotry, is utterly lacking in serious support.

and you proudly boast how you are going to create a utopia where "Civil Rights" flourish.

And that, indeed, is a matter of pride.

You claim to be so "advanced" and "intellectual".

So?

You are ruining a society and creating a new one where children are the victims, be it from abortion or pedophiles.

Abortion destroys fetuses, not children. And even pro-pedophile activists don't support making children "victims."

In 50 years when homosexuals get all their "civil rights" this society is going to be ruined beyond repair.

Your view of "ruin" is probably not mine.

Funny how most child molesters are straight men then, huh?

Indeed, haven't these people heard of Lolicon and other clearcut examples of straight pædophilia or do they think all homosexuals are like the pæderasts of ancient Greece?

Think of the children! I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

So would a lot of total fucktards. Better dead than infected with gay cooties right?
No sane person in the world is an advocate of paedophilia, being unhinged has nothing to do with sexuality.

Why do people like you exist?

So would a lot of total fucktards. Better dead than infected with gay cooties right?
No sane person in the world is an advocate of paedophilia, being unhinged has nothing to do with sexuality.

Why do people like you exist?

To give people like us someone to laugh at.

Why do people like you exist?

Ying and Yang, balance in the universe, that sort of thing. With good comes the...not so good...

Why do people like you exist?

Because deviance is important. We need the voices that contradict the things we hold dear, that challenge our beliefs- so we are motivated to look at ourselves and think about our position.

Which is then strengthened, weakend or remains unchanged.

I keep coming back to discuss things after being on and off for the past two months and then I read a thread like this and become speechless. NOT FAIR.

I cannot keep silent any longer. I do realize that there are some individual homosexuals who are decent (but VERY misguided) people, however the homosexual movement as a whole is truly evil. Homosexuality is a mental disorder and a gateway to pedophilia. Society should outlaw public homosexuality. What people do in their own homes is their business, but homosexuals must not be allowed to spread their abomination in public.

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

The fact of the matter is that the homosexual movement is a kick in the face to society and our children. How can anyone support handing a child over to homosexuals for adoption? There is something truly disturbing about the fact that our society allows homosexuality to be so public. Think of the children! I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

Pedophiles are the worst kind of "people" on this earth and they should be executed by the state for their evil ways. Any convicted pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual, is an incarnation of evil and should be put in the gassing chamber. I think we can all agree on this.

However, people need to realize that homosexuality in public allows for more pedophilia. I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted or anything, but their movement and horrific activism should be immediatly outlawed. No gay "weddings", no gay adoptions, no gay unions, no openly gay public servants, etc. Society has got to stop this love affair with the homosexual movement before it is too late. No more public homosexuality!

Heil Theodosis

I cannot keep silent any longer.

Thanks for the giggles. First post starts with "I cannot keep silent any longer"... and your join date was this month, right?

I can imagine it must have been eating you up for oooh, as long as it took to type.

The rest of the post? Not worth pissing on - but that bit was comedy gold.

Thanks for the giggles. First post starts with "I cannot keep silent any longer"... and your join date was this month, right?

I can imagine it must have been eating you up for oooh, as long as it took to type.

The rest of the post? Not worth pissing on - but that bit was comedy gold.

In my opinion, everything in the Universe has at least the value of being worthy to be pissed on.

In my opinion, everything in the Universe has at least the value of being worthy to be pissed on.

I don't know. There's only so much urine in the world.

In my opinion, everything in the Universe has at least the value of being worthy to be pissed on.

even the people doing the pissing? sounds like an infinite regress to me.

In my opinion, everything in the Universe has at least the value of being worthy to be pissed on.

Don't know about you, but if George W. Bush was on fire, I wouldn't piss on him.

If someone else put the fire out, though, I might. (I'd say it was a measure to protect against a reflare).

Fair warning to homophobes:

Telling me that my choice of consenting adult sex partner really pisses you off is not a good way to get me to change my behavior. You are sex-phobic and usually anti-woman, along with being homophobic. I like annoying you. If I can get laid with a person I like AND piss you off at the same time, then I consider it a great big win.

If you want me to stop being so goddam homo, your best bet is to tell me that you approve. My knee-jerk reaction is to assume that anything you approve of must be dangerous, stupid, or unpleasant, so if you tell me that you approve of my sexual choices it will probably bring me to a grinding halt.

Fair warning to homophobes:

Telling me that my choice of consenting adult sex partner really pisses you off is not a good way to get me to change my behavior. You are sex-phobic and usually anti-woman, along with being homophobic. I like annoying you. If I can get laid with a person I like AND piss you off at the same time, then I consider it a great big win.

If you want me to stop being so goddam homo, your best bet is to tell me that you approve. My knee-jerk reaction is to assume that anything you approve of must be dangerous, stupid, or unpleasant, so if you tell me that you approve of my sexual choices it will probably bring me to a grinding halt.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.....

2 points to Bottle....

In my opinion, everything in the Universe has at least the value of being worthy to be pissed on.

It is a mark of how highly I value the opening remarks that I would with-hold even my bodily wastes from it, for fear of: a) corrupting my waste and b) showing the opening post more respect than it deserved.

I call bullshit. Did you know for a fact that whoever was harassing you was gay? Moreover, if you were being followed in a car, how do you know he was even following you at all, let alone for paedophilic reasons? Your "eamples" sound far too vague and fishy to be taken at face value. Especially when you use phrases like "a town full of homosexuals".

I would rather not go into all the details. Lets say it was one of those things you could just tell. I'm sure you have had that feeling before.

I'll elaborate though (I was 17 at this point). I was on the highway (around 10:30ish at night) and this guy in front of me is going about 25mph. Weird. Anyway, I go into the next lane and speed up and about a minute later take my exit. After you take this exit there is a red light you have to wait at. Sure enough, he takes the exit as well. He parks in the lane next to mine at the red light and rolls down his window. I didn't suspect anything at this moment but was sorta weirded out nonetheless, so I pulled up a few inches. He did the same. I then pulled up another few inches. He did the same. I was getting pretty weirded out at this point but still dismissed it. I didn't want to look at him directly so I just shot one quick glance. He was staring at me unblinking and smiling this very evil/creepy smile. At that point the red light went green (it is a rotary so it takes a while) and I waited for him to drive first. He didn't. The guy behind me beeps so I go and the creep gets in the lane behind me. I follow the rotary and get off at my road, as does he. I then decide that this guy was up to something so I try and shake him. After you exit the rotary there is a lane that goes straight and one that goes right. If you take the right lane you can take a left turn about 80 yards down that will bring you back onto the straight road if you desire. However, this is pointless because you could just go down the straight road. I go right then jump back onto the straight road, as does he. This was the proof I needed that I was dealing with a true piece of filth. I picked up my speed to about 70 mph (it was a quiet 30mph road) and tried to outdrive him, but somehow he managed to keep up. The last card I had was to get off the road very quickly on a turn that he wouldn't be able to turn on. So I basically turned off the road really sharply onto another turn and he missed the turn. He slowed down as I drove off, then vanished.

Claim "coincedence" all you like, but I'm positive it was a perv. I honestly regret escaping and feel like a coward because of it. Had this happened to me now I would have defended myself physically and dragged him out of his car and beat him near death.


Treat them as anyone else except for imagining that they're following you in their cars or chasing you. We're not slandering you so much as laughing at your outrageous and clearly exaggerated claims.

It is easy to dismiss someones claim if you have never experienced it.

Do you cross the street when someone of a different race is coming up the sidewalk, too (or is it just for black people)?

My girlfriend was born in Seoul, South Korea. I think that should be enough of answer to your stupid statement.

It is no coincidence that all three Abrahamic religions denounce homosexuality because they're all fairly similar.

Similar? In some aspects yes, but not in most.

Please explain, beyond your false claims, how children are being victimized. You can't, but please do try.

I showed you 3 prominent gay groups that do/have supported pedophilia. Even if they claim to oppose it today, that is just because they want to look better to the public. And is it any coincedence NAMBLA is based in SF's gay community?

One has to only visit SF to see what our society will look like in 20 years. Flaming homosexuals making out (and worse) in the roads, sodomite parades, general debauchery. A lone child walking through the gay community at night would never escape alive. Again, I honestly would feel safer sending my kids through Compton or Harlem at night.

I need the amusement. Abortion isn't on the table in this thread, so you can stop that crap right there. If this society is to be ruined, it won't be by homosexuals. It will be by hyper-reactive bigots like you who see evil wherever they see things they don't like or don't understand.

http://www.cwfa.org/articles/631/CFI/cfreport/index.htm


You pointed out links between groups that are at least 15 years old. NERVUN already destroyed your premise based on those now-non-existent links. Try again, you sad, sad man.

The homos realize that they now are gaining ground and realize that they actually have a chance of ruining society. So they clean up their act and make themselves out to be more "mainstream"

Fair warning to homophobes:

Telling me that my choice of consenting adult sex partner really pisses you off is not a good way to get me to change my behavior. You are sex-phobic and usually anti-woman, along with being homophobic. I like annoying you. If I can get laid with a person I like AND piss you off at the same time, then I consider it a great big win.

If you want me to stop being so goddam homo, your best bet is to tell me that you approve. My knee-jerk reaction is to assume that anything you approve of must be dangerous, stupid, or unpleasant, so if you tell me that you approve of my sexual choices it will probably bring me to a grinding halt


You do not "annoy me", you just disgust me. Big difference. I am definantely not "sex-phobic" and I am not "anti-woman" either (whatever that means).

All I see in your disgusting actions is that you have an obvious mental disorder. I suggest taking a look at this website (www.narth.org) for your own benefit. However if you want to continue behaving like an unevolved beast than that is your choice. Just please keep it inside your home and away from society.

I'm positive it was a perv.

You have no proof whatsoever of that.

Similar? In some aspects yes, but not in most.

As far as sexual laws go, they're very similar.

I showed you 3 prominent gay groups that do/have supported pedophilia.

Actually, you still haven't sourced any of that.

And while I know little about the other two, the ILGA's acceptance of pedophile organizations was not a matter of "support" for pedophilia... not everyone in the ILGA agrees with everyone else in the ILGA.

One has to only visit SF to see what our society will look like in 20 years. Flaming homosexuals making out (and worse) in the roads,

Awesome.

sodomite parades,

Awesome.

general debauchery.

Awesome.

A lone child walking through the gay community at night would never escape alive.

Bullshit.

http://www.cwfa.org/articles/631/CFI/cfreport/index.htm

Oh, not this shit again. :rolleyes:

Look, there is a clear scientific conclusion on this, and it's easy to find (http://www.apa.org/topics/orientation.html#goodparents). The vast majority of men who molest boys are straight, insofar as their sexual orientation can be characterized in those terms.

I honestly regret escaping and feel like a coward because of it.


Escaping what? Some guy was roadracing with you... maybe trying to freak you out. Did he touch you inappropriately? Did he say anything improper to you?


Had this happened to me now I would have defended myself physically and dragged him out of his car and beat him near death.


You would beat almost to death... someone who had commited the terrible crime of being on the same road as you? The bastard!


I showed you 3 prominent gay groups that do/have supported pedophilia.


You say they do. One - singular. They say they don't. Plural. Ten thousand witnesses versus one. Oh, WHO to believe?


A lone child walking through the gay community at night would never escape alive.

So, now homosexuals are not only paedophiles, but child molesters AND murderers?

Escaping what? Some guy was roadracing with you... maybe trying to freak you out. Did he touch you inappropriately? Did he say anything improper to you?

35 year old men don't try and streetrace teenagers. And if he was "roadracing" me than he wouldn't have tried to stay behind me the whole time.



You would beat almost to death... someone who had commited the terrible crime of being on the same road as you? The bastard!

No, I would beat the crap out of a pedophile who was trying to molest me.

So the only people left alive would be the asexuals. Hooray for mass extinction!

:p

seconded.

You do not "annoy me", you just disgust me.

On this we agree. You do not annoy me, you just disgust me.

Interesting that you raised the spectre of psychological damage in your tirade against Bottle... do you realise you are coming across as a classic closet-self-loather?

I'm not that far off 35... some punk full of himself, edging at the lights... yeah, I might race him. Or I might just freak him out.



Which has nothing to do with your 'story'. Unless there's a chapter you missed out where he stopped, came back, and put his hands in your pants.

You know, I'm vaguely reminded of the hunting episode of South Park. "He's coming right for us!" *shoot*

35 year old men don't try and streetrace teenagers. And if he was "roadracing" me than he wouldn't have tried to stay behind me the whole time.


I'm not that far off 35... some punk full of himself, edging at the lights... yeah, I might race him. Or I might just freak him out.


No, I would beat the crap out of a pedophile who was trying to molest me.

Which has nothing to do with your 'story'. Unless there's a chapter you missed out where he stopped, came back, and put his hands in your pants.

All I see in your disgusting actions is that you have an obvious mental disorder. I suggest taking a look at this website (www.narth.org) for your own benefit. However if you want to continue behaving like an unevolved beast than that is your choice. Just please keep it inside your home and away from society.

Unfortunately for you, you considering something disgusting is not enough reason for people to comply. Same goes for me - plenty of things I would like to see stopped, but hey... I am not the supreme high lord of this planet.

Just please keep it inside your home and away from society.

You're too late. You can't stop us. We are everywhere, and we want everything.

I would rather not go into all the details. Lets say it was one of those things you could just tell. I'm sure you have had that feeling before.

I'll elaborate though (I was 17 at this point). I was on the highway (around 10:30ish at night) and this guy in front of me is going about 25mph. Weird. Anyway, I go into the next lane and speed up and about a minute later take my exit. After you take this exit there is a red light you have to wait at. Sure enough, he takes the exit as well. He parks in the lane next to mine at the red light and rolls down his window. I didn't suspect anything at this moment but was sorta weirded out nonetheless, so I pulled up a few inches. He did the same. I then pulled up another few inches. He did the same. I was getting pretty weirded out at this point but still dismissed it. I didn't want to look at him directly so I just shot one quick glance. He was staring at me unblinking and smiling this very evil/creepy smile. At that point the red light went green (it is a rotary so it takes a while) and I waited for him to drive first. He didn't. The guy behind me beeps so I go and the creep gets in the lane behind me. I follow the rotary and get off at my road, as does he. I then decide that this guy was up to something so I try and shake him. After you exit the rotary there is a lane that goes straight and one that goes right. If you take the right lane you can take a left turn about 80 yards down that will bring you back onto the straight road if you desire. However, this is pointless because you could just go down the straight road. I go right then jump back onto the straight road, as does he. This was the proof I needed that I was dealing with a true piece of filth. I picked up my speed to about 70 mph (it was a quiet 30mph road) and tried to outdrive him, but somehow he managed to keep up. The last card I had was to get off the road very quickly on a turn that he wouldn't be able to turn on. So I basically turned off the road really sharply onto another turn and he missed the turn. He slowed down as I drove off, then vanished.

Claim "coincedence" all you like, but I'm positive it was a perv. I honestly regret escaping and feel like a coward because of it. Had this happened to me now I would have defended myself physically and dragged him out of his car and beat him near death.




It is easy to dismiss someones claim if you have never experienced it.



My girlfriend was born in Seoul, South Korea. I think that should be enough of answer to your stupid statement.



Similar? In some aspects yes, but not in most.



I showed you 3 prominent gay groups that do/have supported pedophilia. Even if they claim to oppose it today, that is just because they want to look better to the public. And is it any coincedence NAMBLA is based in SF's gay community?

One has to only visit SF to see what our society will look like in 20 years. Flaming homosexuals making out (and worse) in the roads, sodomite parades, general debauchery. A lone child walking through the gay community at night would never escape alive. Again, I honestly would feel safer sending my kids through Compton or Harlem at night.



http://www.cwfa.org/articles/631/CFI/cfreport/index.htm




The homos realize that they now are gaining ground and realize that they actually have a chance of ruining society. So they clean up their act and make themselves out to be more "mainstream"

Pedophiles like 17 year olds? Interesting. I'm pretty sure that 17 is far past the age actual pedophiles are attracted to, based on what pedophilia actually means.

I would rather not go into all the details. Lets say it was one of those things you could just tell. I'm sure you have had that feeling before.

I'll elaborate though (I was 17 at this point). I was on the highway (around 10:30ish at night) and this guy in front of me is going about 25mph. Weird. Anyway, I go into the next lane and speed up and about a minute later take my exit. After you take this exit there is a red light you have to wait at. Sure enough, he takes the exit as well. He parks in the lane next to mine at the red light and rolls down his window. I didn't suspect anything at this moment but was sorta weirded out nonetheless, so I pulled up a few inches. He did the same. I then pulled up another few inches. He did the same. I was getting pretty weirded out at this point but still dismissed it. I didn't want to look at him directly so I just shot one quick glance. He was staring at me unblinking and smiling this very evil/creepy smile. At that point the red light went green (it is a rotary so it takes a while) and I waited for him to drive first. He didn't. The guy behind me beeps so I go and the creep gets in the lane behind me. I follow the rotary and get off at my road, as does he. I then decide that this guy was up to something so I try and shake him. After you exit the rotary there is a lane that goes straight and one that goes right. If you take the right lane you can take a left turn about 80 yards down that will bring you back onto the straight road if you desire. However, this is pointless because you could just go down the straight road. I go right then jump back onto the straight road, as does he. This was the proof I needed that I was dealing with a true piece of filth. I picked up my speed to about 70 mph (it was a quiet 30mph road) and tried to outdrive him, but somehow he managed to keep up. The last card I had was to get off the road very quickly on a turn that he wouldn't be able to turn on. So I basically turned off the road really sharply onto another turn and he missed the turn. He slowed down as I drove off, then vanished.

Claim "coincedence" all you like, but I'm positive it was a perv. I honestly regret escaping and feel like a coward because of it. Had this happened to me now I would have defended myself physically and dragged him out of his car and beat him near death.




It is easy to dismiss someones claim if you have never experienced it.

It's just as easy to claim a paranoid fantasy as being stalked by a predator. How does a car using the same road as you and honking his horn for you to move your ass out of the way prove he was "filth" looking to sodomize you by the side of the road?



My girlfriend was born in Seoul, South Korea. I think that should be enough of answer to your stupid statement.



Similar? In some aspects yes, but not in most.



I showed you 3 prominent gay groups that do/have supported pedophilia. Even if they claim to oppose it today, that is just because they want to look better to the public. And is it any coincedence NAMBLA is based in SF's gay community?

Again, you named three groups. you still have not offered one shred of evidence to support your claim.

One has to only visit SF to see what our society will look like in 20 years. Flaming homosexuals making out (and worse) in the roads, sodomite parades, general debauchery. A lone child walking through the gay community at night would never escape alive. Again, I honestly would feel safer sending my kids through Compton or Harlem at night.

There are many dangerous neighborhoods in many cities. Prove that a predominantly gay neighborhood is more dangerous, or keep your homophobic ranting to yourself.

http://www.cwfa.org/articles/631/CFI/cfreport/index.htm

Very nice. Now go find something from a neutral, non-biased source. Your "proof" offers no proof that his claim accurate. That's hardly a serious, peer-reviewed article.


The Task Force also wrongly cited a 1989 study by researcher Kurt Freund, in the Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy: “contrary to the blatant misrepresentations by FRC, Freund’s report actually finds that ‘homosexuals are no more likely than heterosexuals to be attracted to children.’”

That quotation was actually by Dailey himself, as part of a footnote explaining the limitations of Freund’s and other researchers’ methodology. Here is Footnote 17 from the FRC paper:

17. Kurt Freund, et al., “Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference,” [Journal of Sex Research 26 (February 1989)] p. 107. In this and previous studies, Freund claims that homosexuals are no more likely than heterosexuals to be attracted to children (p. 115). However, Silverthorn, et al., mentions the limitations of studies by Freund and others: “Studies of homosexual male preferences are also limited… . The Freund et al. (1973) study was possibly compromised because the homosexual men used in the study were selected to be sexually attracted to adults, but not teenaged, males. The Bailey et al. (1994) study was limited in that it did not present participants with objective stimuli but simply asked participants to report what age of sexual partner they preferred … the Jankowiak et al. (1992) study … was limited in two ways: the homosexual male participants had a limited age range of ‘middle-aged professionals’ and the stimuli presented to participants were also of a limited age range (‘university to middle-aged’).” Silverthorn attempted to correct these deficiencies, and in his study found that homosexuals “preferred younger partners than those who preferred female partners” — including those as young as fifteen. Zebulon A. Silverthorne & Vernon L. Quinsey, “Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women,” Archives of Sexual Behavior 29 (February 2000): 67–76.


The bolded part was interesting. Are they actually complaining that the study is flawed because it was just a survey of homosexuals in general, rather than going out of its way to survey only known pedophiles (which would have badly skewed the data)? Or is it claiming that the study deliberately "weeded out" pedophiles, in which case, where's their proof of that accusation?




The homos realize that they now are gaining ground and realize that they actually have a chance of ruining society. So they clean up their act and make themselves out to be more "mainstream"

What size tinfoil hat do you wear? From this post I'd say it looks like you seem to think that nearly everyone you encounter is a) gay, and b) obsessively attracted to you. If so, that would make you a) paraniod, and b) full of yourself.

I would rather not go into all the details. Lets say it was one of those things you could just tell. I'm sure you have had that feeling before.

I'll elaborate though (I was 17 at this point). I was on the highway (around 10:30ish at night) and this guy in front of me is going about 25mph. Weird. Anyway, I go into the next lane and speed up and about a minute later take my exit. After you take this exit there is a red light you have to wait at. Sure enough, he takes the exit as well. He parks in the lane next to mine at the red light and rolls down his window. I didn't suspect anything at this moment but was sorta weirded out nonetheless, so I pulled up a few inches. He did the same. I then pulled up another few inches. He did the same. I was getting pretty weirded out at this point but still dismissed it. I didn't want to look at him directly so I just shot one quick glance. He was staring at me unblinking and smiling this very evil/creepy smile. At that point the red light went green (it is a rotary so it takes a while) and I waited for him to drive first. He didn't. The guy behind me beeps so I go and the creep gets in the lane behind me. I follow the rotary and get off at my road, as does he. I then decide that this guy was up to something so I try and shake him. After you exit the rotary there is a lane that goes straight and one that goes right. If you take the right lane you can take a left turn about 80 yards down that will bring you back onto the straight road if you desire. However, this is pointless because you could just go down the straight road. I go right then jump back onto the straight road, as does he. This was the proof I needed that I was dealing with a true piece of filth. I picked up my speed to about 70 mph (it was a quiet 30mph road) and tried to outdrive him, but somehow he managed to keep up. The last card I had was to get off the road very quickly on a turn that he wouldn't be able to turn on. So I basically turned off the road really sharply onto another turn and he missed the turn. He slowed down as I drove off, then vanished.

Claim "coincedence" all you like, but I'm positive it was a perv. I honestly regret escaping and feel like a coward because of it. Had this happened to me now I would have defended myself physically and dragged him out of his car and beat him near death.

It sounds like your own fear and loathing caused you to be paranoid and project your fears. But you are right that we weren't there and cannot judge for certain.

Still, you make too much of isolated incidents by painting all homosexuals as predators.

Consider these words from Mark Twain:
"We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it - and stop there; lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove lid. She will never sit on a hot stove lid again - and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore."


I showed you 3 prominent gay groups that do/have supported pedophilia. Even if they claim to oppose it today, that is just because they want to look better to the public. And is it any coincedence NAMBLA is based in SF's gay community?

Actually, you didn't "show" anything, as has been pointed out several times.

Your claims are bare assertions. Do you have any evidence to back them up?

Also, some of your claims have been completely debunked by NERVUN and others. You need to reply to those posts.

One has to only visit SF to see what our society will look like in 20 years. Flaming homosexuals making out (and worse) in the roads, sodomite parades, general debauchery.

And lions and tigers and bears. Oh my!

But, seriously, San Francisco is a lovely city. It has its falts like anywhere else, but overall it is a nice place.

A lone child walking through the gay community at night would never escape alive.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Now you've gone to confusing homosexuality and pedophilia to confusing homosexuality and murder.

Get a grip.

Again, I honestly would feel safer sending my kids through Compton or Harlem at night.

Ah, nothing like a tinge of racism to help the homophobia go down.


http://www.cwfa.org/articles/631/CFI/cfreport/index.htm

This "article" isn't worth the pixels from which it is made.

First, it comes from the heavily biased and unreliable group Concerned Women for America, which has an openly anti-gay agenda.

Second, the "article" relys completely on a so-called "study" from the Family Research Council, a heavily biased and unreliable group with an openly anti-gay agenda.

Third, the author of the alleged "study" has no qualifications in psychology, sociology, or any relevant field. His degrees are in theology and Bible studies.

Fourth, my source below examines and thoroughly rebuts the alleged "study."

Information from the American Psychological Association ( a qualified and objective group) has already been linked to dismiss your confusion of homosexuality and pedophilia.

Here is another informative link: Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation (http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html)

Note that this link is from a qualified expert and contains support from other qualified sources. Note further that this link directly debunks the alleged "study" your link relies on:

Some conservative groups have argued that scientific research strongly supports their claims that homosexuality and pedophilia are linked. The Family Research Council has produced what is perhaps the most extensive attempt to document this claim. It is an article by Timothy J. Dailey titled Homosexuality and Child Abuse.

With 76 footnotes, many of them referring to papers in scientific journals, it appears at first glance to be a thorough and scholarly discussion of the issue. On further examination, however, its central argument – that "the evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls" – doesn't hold up.

...

In summary, the scientific sources cited by the FRC report do not support their argument. Most of the studies they referenced did not even assess the sexual orientation of abusers. Two studies explicitly concluded that sexual orientation and child molestation are unrelated. Notably, the FRC failed to cite the 1978 study by Groth and Birnbaum, which also contradicted their argument. Only one study (Erickson et al., 1988) might be interpreted as supporting the FRC argument, and it failed to detail its measurement procedures and did not differentiate bisexual from homosexual offenders.

...

The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.

Pedophiles like 17 year olds? Interesting. I'm pretty sure that 17 is far past the age actual pedophiles are attracted to, based on what pedophilia actually means.

Yes, unless one is saying that they are 17 and have yet to enter puberty. Paedophelia is an attraction to prepubescent youths.

Yes, unless one is saying that they are 17 and have yet to enter puberty. Paedophelia is an attraction to prepubescent youths.

And 17 is above the age of consent in many western countries. A 35 year old having consensual sex with a 17 year old is therefor often not even considered illegal or wrong by law.

Canada's age of consent is 14 years old, just FYI.

Ow...Just a few miles north and I'd be lucky. :p

And 17 is above the age of consent in many western countries. A 35 year old having consensual sex with a 17 year old is therefor often not even considered illegal or wrong by law.

Canada's age of consent is 14 years old, just FYI.

And 17 is above the age of consent in many western countries. A 35 year old having consensual sex with a 17 year old is therefor often not even considered illegal or wrong by law.

different issue.

different issue.

I disagree. It was implied that a 35 year old man making a pass at a 17 year old boy would be doing something wrong and that he is "a dirty pedophile".

As was already pointed out, the term pedophile is incorrect - and so is the claim that the pass itself is something "wrong"; at least in the eyes of the law of many countries.

Yes, the typical age of consent is between 15 and 18 in most western countries, and mainly 16/17.

I'm not that far off 35... some punk full of himself, edging at the lights... yeah, I might race him. Or I might just freak him out.



Which has nothing to do with your 'story'. Unless there's a chapter you missed out where he stopped, came back, and put his hands in your pants.

Help, the scary guy at the light wants to touch my cock. I'm going to use my one over-dramatized experience to label entire groups of people. Then I'm going to find an article by biased right win women to prove my point. See my previous post: All Christians have a mental disorder because they believe in imaginary persons and support the Catholic Church who molests boys. "I could see his thoughts. WE Christians can do that as we see the thought of the devil as if they were little thought bubbles in a comic strip." For Around the Horn fans-He gone!

It's just as easy to claim a paranoid fantasy as being stalked by a predator. How does a car using the same road as you and honking his horn for you to move your ass out of the way prove he was "filth" looking to sodomize you by the side of the road?





Again, you named three groups. you still have not offered one shred of evidence to support your claim.



There are many dangerous neighborhoods in many cities. Prove that a predominantly gay neighborhood is more dangerous, or keep your homophobic ranting to yourself.



Very nice. Now go find something from a neutral, non-biased source. Your "proof" offers no proof that his claim accurate. That's hardly a serious, peer-reviewed article.




The bolded part was interesting. Are they actually complaining that the study is flawed because it was just a survey of homosexuals in general, rather than going out of its way to survey only known pedophiles (which would have badly skewed the data)? Or is it claiming that the study deliberately "weeded out" pedophiles, in which case, where's their proof of that accusation?






What size tinfoil hat do you wear? From this post I'd say it looks like you seem to think that nearly everyone you encounter is a) gay, and b) obsessively attracted to you. If so, that would make you a) paraniod, and b) full of yourself.

Re: the OP. Compton, Harlem, or the Village? Let me guess, you're not from a major metro are you Theo?

Re: the OP. Compton, Harlem, or the Village? Let me guess, you're not from a major metro are you Theo?

I lived near NYC and am moving to Los Angeles. So yes I've seen my share of metropolitan areas.

Canada's age of consent is 14 years old, just FYI.

Canada is a cesspool, does it matter what they think?

I lived near NYC and am moving to Los Angeles. So yes I've seen my share of metropolitan areas.

Bye! :)


Also, the truth is, there are plenty of homophobic and otherwise ignorant people in metropolitan areas. We might do a better job of hiding them, but there is a gay-hate-crime news story once every couple of months.

-snip-

Would the gentleman with the very uninformed and misguided view on homosexuality please remove his head from his own ass?

Thank you, that is all.

Canada is a cesspool, does it matter what they think?

It's not what they 'think', it's what their law is.

On the other hand, boot on the other foot (so, to speak)... does it matter what you think?

Canada is a cesspool, does it matter what they think?

The cesspool that is Canada has far fewer murders, assaults, child abuse and molestation, and other violent crimes than the USA have.

What you decry in your original post, Canada has less of in every conceivable way. So pray tell, a cesspool of what, exactly? Safety and harmony?

You do not "annoy me", you just disgust me. Big difference. I am definantely not "sex-phobic" and I am not "anti-woman" either (whatever that means).

All I see in your disgusting actions is that you have an obvious mental disorder. I suggest taking a look at this website (www.narth.org) for your own benefit. However if you want to continue behaving like an unevolved beast than that is your choice. Just please keep it inside your home and away from society.

1. Your homophobia is not as disturbing as your willingness to jettison the Bill of Rights and Fourteenth Amendment (hell, liberty and equality altogether apparently) in service to that homophobia.

2. The National Assocation for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) is a rogue, unprofessional anti-gay organization whose views are considered untrue and even unethical by the Amercian Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, and most (if not all) other reliable psychiatric, psychological, and medical associations. (e.g., link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_for_Research_&_Therapy_of_Homosexuality), link (http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_nart.htm), link (http://www.psych.org/psych_pract/copptherapyaddendum83100.cfm).)

The cesspool that is Canada has far fewer murders, assaults, child abuse and molestation, and other violent crimes than the USA have.

What you decry in your original post, Canada has less of in every conceivable way. So pray tell, a cesspool of what, exactly? Safety and harmony?

They're clearly not Catholic-Jesusy enough. I.e. they don't support pedophilia among the priesthood, and they don't aid and abet felons (those same pedophile priests) by helping them avoid prosecution.

Canada is a cesspool, does it matter what they think?

Yeah, it does. As has been mentioned, Canada is actually a much safer place to live. Don't get me wrong though, I love it here in America.

As for the cesspool thing, have you actually ever scene a cesspool? I don't think Canada looks anything like one.

L2 Tolerate, Theo

You do not "annoy me", you just disgust me. Big difference.

Wow, even better!

Your disgust inspires me. I think I'm going to go have some gay sex tonight.


I am definantely not "sex-phobic" and I am not "anti-woman" either (whatever that means).

"Anti" meaning "against," and "woman" meaning...hmm. I'm not sure how to describe "woman" to a fellow who very clearly is never going manage to get close enough to see one...


All I see in your disgusting actions is that you have an obvious mental disorder. I suggest taking a look at this website (www.narth.org) for your own benefit. However if you want to continue behaving like an unevolved beast than that is your choice. Just please keep it inside your home and away from society.We are Gaytron. We are everywhere. We are all around you. We will redecorate your homes, consume your brightly-colored mixed drinks, and convert your children to our pagan sex cults. Resistance is futile.

Canada is a cesspool, does it matter what they think?

Because we're the only thing that stands between that godless heterosexual menace and total chaos!

Homosexuality is a mental disorder

It was removed from the AMA's list of mental disorders in the early 1970s, and deservedly so.

and a gateway to pedophilia

Aren't most pedophiles heterosexual?

I think I'm going to go have some gay sex tonight.


It didn't happen if there's no pictures...

*Rolls*

You forgot "we shall force you to wear fabulous clothes" and "we will bring the bright enlightenment of culture and art to your dark, drab world" :p
You know, in retrospect it should have just been, "...and we will teach your children that sex can be a mutually pleasurable experience which does not necessarily have to include the good old fashioned S&M themes of Catholic guilt."

We are Gaytron. We are everywhere. We are all around you. We will redecorate your homes, consume your brightly-colored mixed drinks, and convert your children to our pagan sex cults. Resistance is futile.

*Rolls*

You forgot "we shall force you to wear fabulous clothes" and "we will bring the bright enlightenment of culture and art to your dark, drab world" :p

Hey, let's not be hating on S&M just because 'the church' has tried to monopolise it...
No hating, just pointing out that it's not everybody's bag, and it doesn't have to be (no matter what the Catholics would have you believe).

You know, in retrospect it should have just been, "...and we will teach your children that sex can be a mutually pleasurable experience which does not necessarily have to include the good old fashioned S&M themes of Catholic guilt."

Hey, let's not be hating on S&M just because 'the church' has tried to monopolise it...

Funny how most child molesters are straight men then, huh?

Equally funny how most child molesters are their own (heterosexual) parents.:)

I cannot keep silent any longer. I do realize that there are some individual homosexuals who are decent (but VERY misguided) people, however the homosexual movement as a whole is truly evil. Homosexuality is a mental disorder and a gateway to pedophilia. Society should outlaw public homosexuality. What people do in their own homes is their business, but homosexuals must not be allowed to spread their abomination in public.

If one looks at the history of pro-pedophile activism, it has always been the homosexuals who have supported it. The COC, the Netherlands largest homosexual union, stated that "homosexual liberation can never be achieved without paedophile liberation". NAMBLA, the USA's largest pro-pedophile organization, is based in San Franciscos gay community. The "International Gay and Lesbian Association" has at least 4 pedophile activist subgroups. Germany's "National Homosexuality Association" has voiced support for pedophile groups and called for their members to actively support them.

The fact of the matter is that the homosexual movement is a kick in the face to society and our children. How can anyone support handing a child over to homosexuals for adoption? There is something truly disturbing about the fact that our society allows homosexuality to be so public. Think of the children! I'd sooner let my kid walk through the streets of Compton at night than through a gay community.

Pedophiles are the worst kind of "people" on this earth and they should be executed by the state for their evil ways. Any convicted pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual, is an incarnation of evil and should be put in the gassing chamber. I think we can all agree on this.

However, people need to realize that homosexuality in public allows for more pedophilia. I'm not advocating for homosexuals as people to be persecuted or anything, but their movement and horrific activism should be immediatly outlawed. No gay "weddings", no gay adoptions, no gay unions, no openly gay public servants, etc. Society has got to stop this love affair with the homosexual movement before it is too late. No more public homosexuality!

You're wrong 100%, and you're insane. Freedom is part of what makes America great. If you don't like it, then get out. Go back to Iran, where they "have no gays".

This would be more fun if it weren't so depressingly common...but here goes:

I would rather not go into all the details. Lets say it was one of those things you could just tell. I'm sure you have had that feeling before.

I've certainly had that feeling about neighborhoods, gangs of hooded men conglomerated around a doorway calling me names as I walked by, and other actually dangerous situations. Never about something like what follows.

I'll elaborate though (I was 17 at this point). I was on the highway (around 10:30ish at night) and this guy in front of me is going about 25mph. Weird. Anyway, I go into the next lane and speed up and about a minute later take my exit. After you take this exit there is a red light you have to wait at. Sure enough, he takes the exit as well. He parks in the lane next to mine at the red light and rolls down his window. I didn't suspect anything at this moment but was sorta weirded out nonetheless, so I pulled up a few inches. He did the same. I then pulled up another few inches. He did the same. I was getting pretty weirded out at this point but still dismissed it. I didn't want to look at him directly so I just shot one quick glance. He was staring at me unblinking and smiling this very evil/creepy smile. At that point the red light went green (it is a rotary so it takes a while) and I waited for him to drive first. He didn't. The guy behind me beeps so I go and the creep gets in the lane behind me. I follow the rotary and get off at my road, as does he. I then decide that this guy was up to something so I try and shake him. After you exit the rotary there is a lane that goes straight and one that goes right. If you take the right lane you can take a left turn about 80 yards down that will bring you back onto the straight road if you desire. However, this is pointless because you could just go down the straight road. I go right then jump back onto the straight road, as does he. This was the proof I needed that I was dealing with a true piece of filth. I picked up my speed to about 70 mph (it was a quiet 30mph road) and tried to outdrive him, but somehow he managed to keep up. The last card I had was to get off the road very quickly on a turn that he wouldn't be able to turn on. So I basically turned off the road really sharply onto another turn and he missed the turn. He slowed down as I drove off, then vanished.

Wow. So, judging from one look at a red light, you thought not that he might have been a psychopath, a criminal, or someone out to weird out teenagers for fun, but you AUTOMATICALLY assumed "pervert trying to have anal intercourse with me". How sad. I've had people try to follow me before. Old guys pissed because I passed them, young guys pissed because I was laughing visibly at their ridiculously "tricked out" Japanese cars whose mufflers are larger than their engines, one guy because, despite my obvious intention and flashing turn signal, took special umbrage at being superseded during a traffic jam as I was trying to get off the main road (had he been a little cool, I'd have been gone from in front of him in about five seconds).

Never ONCE did my mind -- unlike yours, which seems feverish, homosexually-obsessed and blurred from continuous rushes to judgment -- conjure up a man who wanted to molest me. You had, at 17, and clearly still have, an irrational fear of gay men, which leads me to believe that you are in serious denial, either about your own sexuality or about some traumatic event in your childhood. Either way, find a counselor, you need help.

Claim "coincedence" all you like, but I'm positive it was a perv. I honestly regret escaping and feel like a coward because of it. Had this happened to me now I would have defended myself physically and dragged him out of his car and beat him near death.

Yeah, 'cause prison time would have helped you deal with rabid homophobia. :rolleyes:

It is easy to dismiss someones claim if you have never experienced it.

I have experienced it, junior. Hell, I'll even admit that once, in downtown Portland, I was walking from my hotel to a concert during a music teachers' convention, and I took a shortcut through an alley by a parking garage. I saw a lone black man leaned up against a streetlight. Having been raised in the depths of suburbia, that was not a common sight for me. My desire to not be a racist jackass collided with my memories of any number of movies, news reports, and imaginings. I kept going, but I was nervous. When I got up to the light, the guy opened his jacket and reached into his inside pocket, and, uncontrollably fed by adrenaline and fear, I flinched. The guy wanted to sell his necklace. I told him I didn't have any money (which was true), wished him good luck, he said "thanks, brother", and I kept walking to the concert.

Did I have any legitimate reason to think I was in any danger? Would I have felt the same way if the guy leaning on the light pole was white? I don't know -- that was about 13 years ago. The point is, I was young and inexperienced and I had about the only reaction my mind could produce, given my frame of reference at the time.

The same goes for you. You've either been molested or you've had the basest fear of "perverts" inculcated into your mind, so you naturally assumed your freeway stalker was trying to sodomize you or something. And that actually might have been the case, but I can't recall that particular modus operandi being the standard for molesters. Usually it's either someone the kid knows or they're otherwise lured (as Chris Hanson has relentlessly shown us, frequently via the Web). Anyone else ever hear of a drag-racing pervert assault?

My girlfriend was born in Seoul, South Korea. I think that should be enough of answer to your stupid statement.

Fine, but that doesn't answer my question at all. There are lots of white soldiers and businessmen in Seoul. Alright, alright, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You dig Asian women. Neat. My question was about blacks. Now, had your girlfriend been born in, say, Nairobi, you'd have come much closer to answering my question.

Similar? In some aspects yes, but not in most.

Similar enough that they all have very similar commandments and prohibitions. Also, each followed upon the other (judaism, Christianity, Islam), so there's another avenue to similarity. You asked whether it was any surprise that all three Abrahamic religions frown on homosexuality. my response was "no", but not because it's some universial no-no, because it certainly is not. ANIMALS can be gay, for cryin' out loud. And as long as we're talking major religions, what does Shinto, Buddhism, or Hinduism have to say on the topic? Besides, you seem to think that homosexual prohibition is all over the three Abrahamic tomes, when it's not. Leviticus and Romans, a few llines in each. Hardly an overwhelming mandate. I don't count Matthew because that book also contains "judge not, lest ye be judged" -- something the more virulent fundamentalists seem to keep forgetting.

I showed you 3 prominent gay groups that do/have supported pedophilia. Even if they claim to oppose it today, that is just because they want to look better to the public. And is it any coincedence NAMBLA is based in SF's gay community?

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S HOLY, can you not read? NAMBLA is merely BASED in San Francisco! Does that mean that all of the Giants, Warriors and 49ers all support homosexuals, too? Not only that, but NERVUN (this is the SECOND time I've told you this) CLEARLY stated that your claim is DATED by at least 10 years if not 20. NO mainstram GLBT organization endorses pedophilia, and NAMBLA merely has a POST OFFICE BOX in San Francisco. Your argument here is tired, woefully incorrect, and unworthy of even being labelled as a big 'ol box of FAIL.

One has to only visit SF to see what our society will look like in 20 years. Flaming homosexuals making out (and worse) in the roads, sodomite parades, general debauchery. A lone child walking through the gay community at night would never escape alive. Again, I honestly would feel safer sending my kids through Compton or Harlem at night.

Look -- two gay guys making out is no more inherently threatening to ANYONE than you and your Korean girlfriend making out. Shit, you SHOULD be happy! If they're making out, they're not stalking you! And, no, sorry, they don't do it in the roads, save for the parade, which is once a damne year. How many hours did you spend in SF, anyway? Two?

"Never escape alive". Are you high? If a child didn't escape alive, it wouldn't be because of homosexuals, it'd be because SF is a METROPOLIS, with LOTS of ALL KINDS of PEOPLE in it, including criminals (ACTUAL criminals, not those engaged in the IMAGINARY crime of not loving the way YOU want them to). Even so, that in itself would be rare enough. Besides, what kind of idiot parent lets their child walk through a metro area at night anyway? What kind of far-fetched nightmare scenarios are you having these paranoid delusions in?

And you've never been to East LA, or Compton, I'd wager. And Harlem ain't what it used to be. There are good and bad neighborhoods everywhere. You're just another suburban white kid, overprivileged and undereducated, who's had religion pumped into your skull since conception.

http://www.cwfa.org/articles/631/CFI/cfreport/index.htm

Oh, good grief. This is a religious organization, as you can clearly see from even a cursory examination. What kind of article did you THINK they were going to post? "The Bible Got it Wrong -- gay is OK!"??? Open your eyes for just a minute, pal.

The homos realize that they now are gaining ground and realize that they actually have a chance of ruining society. So they clean up their act and make themselves out to be more "mainstream"

Very well. I don't care if you reply to this post or not. I'm not going to change any part of a mind so completely overgrown and calcified with hate, prejudice, paranoia and complete, whack-a-loon ignorance.

News flash -- gays' "act" has always been what it is. There are "cleaned up" parts of heterosexual society, too (where do you think politicians come from?). EVERY segment of EVERY society has it's good and bad aspects. I have my vices, as I'm sure you and your girlfriend do, as I'm sure we ALL do. But to sit there and claim that one WHOLE PART of society is, WITHOUT REMOTE EXCEPTION, completely without worth is insane.

Look at some actual research and look at all the guys Chris Hanson busts. The vast majority of paedophilic predators are STRAIGHT. Sorry, but it's true.

You have a lot to learn, and I pray that God sees His way toward teaching you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK5gGATcF_4

:)

Gay Banditos!

Theodosis X, warned for trolling. You've made unsubstantiated remarks, flamebaited homosexuals and Canadians, and you've not bothered to even answer the refutations addressed to you. You've also dropped your little one liner homo-hate bombs in other threads from what I see of your posting history.