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So how about everyone chooses not to give a toss? :)

But see, if people believe that I've chosen to be asexual, they call it "repression". I haven't chosen it, it's just how I am. Maybe if more people accepted my orientation at all in the first place, instead of assuming that all people must have sexual desires or we're somehow not human...because I've encountered that sort of attitude before and it's really alienating.

Actually, I am going to give a fucking toss. Do you not understand how painstakingly hard the gay rights movement has been working to make the fucking homophobes understand that they're sexuality is legitimate, not some degenerate perverted choice like they think.

Although your right in a sense, even if it is a choice, people should still have the fucking right to stick their dicks in other peoples poo holes.

So how about everyone chooses not to give a toss? :)
WARNING: The following is a Class One set-up. Please choose your punchline carefully.



What if they gave a toss and nobody came?

WARNING: The following is a Class One set-up. Please choose your punchline carefully.



What if they gave a toss and nobody came?

OK, that wasn't too bad, i'll let you off.

OK, that wasn't too bad, i'll let you off.

Oh -- well...thank you very much! I'm getting all feverish and excited at the mere PROspect of some hot, steamy...oh, wait.

You said let me off.

Sorry.

Oh -- well...thank you very much! I'm getting all feverish and excited at the mere PROspect of some hot, steamy...oh, wait.

You said let me off.

Sorry.

Damn, you're on fire today!

Ha! I challenge you to find any innuendo in that statement!

But see, if people believe that I've chosen to be asexual, they call it "repression". I haven't chosen it, it's just how I am. Maybe if more people accepted my orientation at all in the first place, instead of assuming that all people must have sexual desires or we're somehow not human...because I've encountered that sort of attitude before and it's really alienating.

I'll be honest, Chandy...the idea of someone not having any sexual desires whatsoever is extremely confusing to those of us with sexual desires, because we've had these desires our entire lives in one form or another. Hell, a large number of the decisions we make daily are influenced by those desires.

Of course I know you're telling the truth and I am all for you being treated equally. I just want you to understand why we can find it so confusing, that's all.

I'll be honest, Chandy...the idea of someone not having any sexual desires whatsoever is extremely confusing to those of us with sexual desires, because we've had these desires our entire lives in one form or another. Hell, a large number of the decisions we make daily are influenced by those desires.

Of course I know you're telling the truth and I am all for you being treated equally. I just want you to understand why we can find it so confusing, that's all.

It makes sense to not be able to understand it or to be confused by it. I was confused to find out that most people have some sort of feeling that I'll never feel or be able to understand, and like you said, it influences a lot of most peoples' decisions. So of course it would be confusing to both sexuals and asexuals. It's just when people take that confusion and to resolve it use explanations like, "Oh, they're broken" or "Oh, they're repressed", or "Oh, they must be lying" because they can't accept that something that doesn't fit in with their view of people that it annoys me.

Confusion is fine. That's why we have to talk about it, not just deny that the other side exists, because asexuals can't really understand what sexuals are feeling, and vice versa.

It makes sense to not be able to understand it or to be confused by it. I was confused to find out that most people have some sort of feeling that I'll never feel or be able to understand, and like you said, it influences a lot of most peoples' decisions. So of course it would be confusing to both sexuals and asexuals. It's just when people take that confusion and to resolve it use explanations like, "Oh, they're broken" or "Oh, they're repressed", or "Oh, they must be lying" because they can't accept that something that doesn't fit in with their view of people that it annoys me.

Confusion is fine. That's why we have to talk about it, not just deny that the other side exists, because asexuals can't really understand what sexuals are feeling, and vice versa.
Exactly! Working together is what we should do. Confusion can be settled through education and proper cooperation.

Damn, you're on fire today!

Ha! I challenge you to find any innuendo in that statement!

Nah, you got me there. The Boss (http://www.brucespringsteen.net/songs/ImOnFire.html), however....

Exactly! Working together is what we should do. Confusion can be settled through education and proper cooperation.

Lol, sorry to be a bastard, but do you realise how cheesy that sounds? :D

Lol, sorry to be a bastard, but do you realise how cheesy that sounds? :D

It's good cheese, and even if so, that's irrelevant. It was well meant and it's the truth.

No no no. What I was saying is that it shouldn't matter whether sexuality is a choice or not, people should be accepted for who they are without the need for gay rights campaigners

Yeah ok, I've just recovered from a hangover and am really angry at the moment for some reason, sorry if I sounded too harsh.

Exactly! Working together is what we should do. Confusion can be settled through education and proper cooperation.

Yes. :)

It's good cheese, and even if so, that's irrelevant. It was well meant and it's the truth.

Agreed :)

Although your right in a sense, even if it is a choice, people should still have the fucking right to stick their dicks in other peoples poo holes.
Gee. You sure know how to make things sound romantic. :rolleyes:

Actually, I am going to give a fucking toss. Do you not understand how painstakingly hard the gay rights movement has been working to make the fucking homophobes understand that they're sexuality is legitimate, not some degenerate perverted choice like they think.

Although your right in a sense, even if it is a choice, people should still have the fucking right to stick their dicks in other peoples poo holes.

No no no. What I was saying is that it shouldn't matter whether sexuality is a choice or not, people should be accepted for who they are without the need for gay rights campaigners

It makes sense to not be able to understand it or to be confused by it. I was confused to find out that most people have some sort of feeling that I'll never feel or be able to understand, and like you said, it influences a lot of most peoples' decisions. So of course it would be confusing to both sexuals and asexuals. It's just when people take that confusion and to resolve it use explanations like, "Oh, they're broken" or "Oh, they're repressed", or "Oh, they must be lying" because they can't accept that something that doesn't fit in with their view of people that it annoys me.

Confusion is fine. That's why we have to talk about it, not just deny that the other side exists, because asexuals can't really understand what sexuals are feeling, and vice versa.
Personally, it's a bit like the "chocolate factor". Allow me to explain.

I love chocolate, with a vengeance. Now I know some people don't love chocolate, and that baffles me, and I can't help but wonder if they really know what they're missing out by not eating chocolate.

That's the kind of disbelief I think you face. People just can't believe someone could not like something as utterly delicious and lovable as chocolate.

Except that I, being enlightened and accepting of difference, just figure out anyone who doesn't love chocolate is leaving more chocolate for me to eat. :D

Gee. You sure know how to make things sound romantic. :rolleyes:

Hey, what can I say? I'm a realist.

Gee. You sure know how to make things sound romantic. :rolleyes:
How would you phrase it, then? I don't think I've ever actually heard a romantic way of talking about anal sex. (Not that I don't think it's possible, because I do, and I am honestly curious.)

Personally, it's a bit like the "chocolate factor". Allow me to explain.

I love chocolate, with a vengeance. Now I know some people don't love chocolate, and that baffles me, and I can't help but wonder if they really know what they're missing out by not eating chocolate.

That's the kind of disbelief I think you face. People just can't believe someone could not like something as utterly delicious and lovable as chocolate.

Except that I, being enlightened and accepting of difference, just figure out anyone who doesn't love chocolate is leaving more chocolate for me to eat. :D

It is kind of like that, except add in the fact that it's something that is considered extremely important by the majority of people.

It's good cheese, and even if so, that's irrelevant. It was well meant and it's the truth.

The Smoked Gouda Asexuality Convocation!

Or, if you prefer acronyms:

Consensus Has Elected to Demand we Deem Asexuality Reasonable

How would you phrase it, then? I don't think I've ever actually heard a romantic way of talking about anal sex. (Not that I don't think it's possible, because I do, and I am honestly curious.)

Something along the lines of:

"If someone wants to show their love for their partner, they can do so in any way both consider appropriate and satisfying, no matter the form this show of love takes".

It has the added benefit of being inclusive of anything that might be considered "improper" by the "holier-than-thou"s. Like S&M, oral sex, anal sex, fetishes, and what-have-you.

It is kind of like that, except add in the fact that it's something that is considered extremely important by the majority of people.

TOO important in too many ways, if you ask me.

It is kind of like that, except add in the fact that it's something that is considered extremely important by the majority of people.

Are you implying chocolate is not considered extremely important by the majority of people? :eek:

Something along the lines of:

"If someone wants to show their love for their partner, they can do so in any way both consider appropriate and satisfying, no matter the form this show of love takes".

It has the added benefit of being inclusive of anything that might be considered "improper" by the "holier-than-thou"s. Like S&M, oral sex, anal sex, fetishes, and what-have-you.

Just to be a nuisance here, what about that guy who was looking for people to kill him for sexual arousal for himself and his partner and got his wish?

Yeah, vague, but I saw an article about it somewhere. Maybe I'll try and find it,

Something along the lines of:

"If someone wants to show their love for their partner, they can do so in any way both consider appropriate and satisfying, no matter the form this show of love takes".

It has the added benefit of being inclusive of anything that might be considered "improper" by the "holier-than-thou"s. Like S&M, oral sex, anal sex, fetishes, and what-have-you.

That works! Thank you.

Are you implying chocolate is not considered extremely important by the majority of people? :eek:

Well... I haven't heard about anyone being executed for preferring one type of chocolate over another...

TOO important in too many ways, if you ask me.

Yes.

The Smoked Gouda Asexuality Convocation!

Or, if you prefer acronyms:

Consensus Has Elected to Demand we Deem Asexuality Reasonable

Heee...

The Smoked Gouda Asexuality Convocation!

Or, if you prefer acronyms:

Consensus Has Elected to Demand we Deem Asexuality Reasonable

Nice. :)

Well... I haven't heard about anyone being executed for preferring one type of chocolate over another...

You obviously don't live in the nation of Skaladora :p

You obviously don't live in the nation of Skaladora :p

Obviously not. :p

So how about everyone chooses not to give a toss? :)

i choose "not to give a toss"! to me there is only one issue involved and that is a dominant self ritiousness harrassing an innocent and harmless minority. and to me, that kind of self ritiousness, is far more sinful/evil, then any so called "unnatural act" (which there isn't anything unnatural about at all, just not the most common sort of sexual gratifiction among non-human spieces, but certain not unheard of nor unobserved. if anything is "unnatural", it is monogamous merrage among primate speceis, including humans. reguardless of the sexuality involved).

and this don't have a damd thing to do with believing or not believing in something big, friendly and nontangable either.

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It doesn't matter if it's a choice. *nod*

To be honest, it never ceases to astound me that some people are willing to take time away from thinking about their own orgasms to worry about the orgasms of perfect strangers.

I suppose there might be a jealousy issue in some cases, assuming a lack of personal orgasms coupled with a strong desire for them, but really - that problems would still be best solved by worrying about your own.

It's not even a matter for me about caring how other people pleasure themselves, it's that the issue never crosses my mind unless someone else feels the need to expound upon their preference - in which case I nod politely and fail completely to give a damn.

To be honest, it never ceases to astound me that some people are willing to take time away from thinking about their own orgasms to worry about the orgasms of perfect strangers.

I suppose there might be a jealousy issue in some cases, assuming a lack of personal orgasms coupled with a strong desire for them, but really - that problems would still be best solved by worrying about your own.

It's not even a matter for me about caring how other people pleasure themselves, it's that the issue never crosses my mind unless someone else feels the need to expound upon their preference - in which case I nod politely and fail completely to give a damn.

i think you hit it precisely. whatever the pretentions of dominant pseudo-religious self-ritiousness to the contrary.

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So you're telling me the best way to solve our problems is to have people like Fred Phelps laid?

Talk about an impossible task :headbang:

Actually, I am going to give a fucking toss. Do you not understand how painstakingly hard the gay rights movement has been working to make the fucking homophobes understand that they're sexuality is legitimate, not some degenerate perverted choice like they think.

Although your right in a sense, even if it is a choice, people should still have the fucking right to stick their dicks in other peoples poo holes.

That's pretty much where I'm coming from. In MY mind, it really shouldn't matter if it is a choice or not, so long as no harm is done.

But I do think it's an actual sexuality, not a choice, and certainly NOT a mental disorder as I have heard many say (They removed it from the DSM decades ago you dumb bastahds, TOO late in my opinion).