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...Some twisted animals (not humans, they don't deserve that title) sent nooses to African American workers, one with a twisted note attached. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1E6xz-Zlano&mode=user&search=

Some people never grow up.

...Some twisted animals (not humans, they don't deserve that title) sent nooses to African American workers, one with a twisted note attached. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1E6xz-Zlano&mode=user&search=

This surprises you? Racism and bigotry haven't gone away, they've just (mostly) gone underground. And away from the public eye, "oppressed" viewpoints (which, to be utterly honest, they are) just become ever more radical and extreme.

It's why banning hate speech and racial vilification laws are stupid and counterproductive. You can't ban a viewpoint - you just drive it underground. Only by honestly facing that point, allowing free speech, and defeating racism in the forum of ideas can racism be defeated.

Klansmen are like vermin. I suggest we get black looking mannequins and have white girls stand near giant rat traps. :D

This surprises you? Racism and bigotry haven't gone away, they've just (mostly) gone underground. And away from the public eye, "oppressed" viewpoints (which, to be utterly honest, they are) just become ever more radical and extreme.

It's why banning hate speech and racial vilification laws are stupid and counterproductive. You can't ban a viewpoint - you just drive it underground. Only by honestly facing that point, allowing free speech, and defeating racism in the forum of ideas can racism be defeated.

I'd tend to agree with you there. But of course the problem is that racists' own ignorance protects them and their beliefs from being defeated.

I'd tend to agree with you there. But of course the problem is that racists' own ignorance protects them and their beliefs from being defeated.

Keyword: ignorance.

This surprises you? Racism and bigotry haven't gone away, they've just (mostly) gone underground. And away from the public eye, "oppressed" viewpoints (which, to be utterly honest, they are) just become ever more radical and extreme.

It's why banning hate speech and racial vilification laws are stupid and counterproductive. You can't ban a viewpoint - you just drive it underground. Only by honestly facing that point, allowing free speech, and defeating racism in the forum of ideas can racism be defeated.

It surprised me at first. But after reading the rest of your post, I agree with you.

That wasn't a properly tied noose.

Klansmen arn't known for being the brightest of fellows.

That wasn't a properly tied noose.

That wasn't a properly tied noose.

It didn't look too bad to me... but I don't know how to tie a noose...

Klansmen arn't known for being the brightest of fellows.

I'm just pointing out that these people are pathetic and their own actions undermine everything they claim to stand for.

They probably should have hired some illegal mexicans to tie the noose. At least then the job would have been done right. And god knows they are quite happy to have mexicans cut their lawn.

Retards, the lot of them.

I'm just pointing out that these people are pathetic and their own actions undermine everything they claim to stand for.

They probably should have hired some illegal mexicans to tie the noose. At least then the job would have been done right. And god knows they are quite happy to have mexicans cut their lawn.

Retards, the lot of them.

Like many racists - they don't want foreigners to be in the country, but are happy for them to provide a service. Chinese chippes, 24hr petrol stations, off licences, etc.

Klansmen are like vermin. I suggest we get black looking mannequins and have white girls stand near giant rat traps. :D

Where are all the white women at?

Where are all the white women at?

Blazing Saddles right? :D

Make way for the movement towards progress, right?

Durn NO! Now, hand me some moonshine. WOO!

Blazing Saddles right? :D

The new sherrif is a ni*GOOOOOONG*! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDICYjC8S28&mode=related&search=)

The new sherrif is a ni*GOOOOOONG*! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDICYjC8S28&mode=related&search=)

What in the wide wide world of sports is going on here? I hired you people to try to get a little track laid, not to jump around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPcLPzItOQs)

Best Comedy movie EVER!

...Some twisted animals (not humans, they don't deserve that title) sent nooses to African American workers, one with a twisted note attached. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1E6xz-Zlano&mode=user&search=

I've always found it curious how people are quick to demean animals like this. Animals are proper. Everything they do is perfect and makes sense.

Second, don't be surprised if this case turns out not to be what it seems. I've seen dozens of instances, even in my area, of graffiti and other such things ascribed to Whites, and it turned out that it wasn't. In which case the media quickly dropped the story.

Klansmen are like vermin. I suggest we get black looking mannequins and have white girls stand near giant rat traps. :D

Here's an instance of tolerated racism.

There's a difference between "KKK member" and "active KKK member"..

You know what would be a really good idea for America.

Stop doing the whole "African American" thing. Keep up the difference, and this kind of thing is going to happen, because it makes a distinction to be preyed upon. They're not Africans. They might be black, but they're Americans. And doubtless have been for about 300-odd years.

Give it a bloody rest.

Keyword: ignorance.

Addendum: Willful ignorance.

Addendum: Willful ignorance.

Both of which can be combatted. The latter is very difficult to defeat, but it often. at least, can be kept from spreading.

Not all White Supremacists are automatically klansmen, I hate to tell you -- there are any number of skinhead groups trying to get a foothold by planting CDs in people's mailbox containing vile hatred set to music.

What I don't understand is that if they're so scared/angry/want to be isolated from the fearsome sight of people with dark skin, why don't they get together, buy an island, and isolate themselves?

This surprises you? Racism and bigotry haven't gone away, they've just (mostly) gone underground. And away from the public eye, "oppressed" viewpoints (which, to be utterly honest, they are) just become ever more radical and extreme.

It's why banning hate speech and racial vilification laws are stupid and counterproductive. You can't ban a viewpoint - you just drive it underground. Only by honestly facing that point, allowing free speech, and defeating racism in the forum of ideas can racism be defeated.

Ok...what about Germany for example where there are free speech laws banning certain expressions...?

"I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and............... Methodists!"


Anyway.... Like most low-life cliques, racial supremists don't expect to adapt to society, they expect society to adapt to them.

Not all White Supremacists are automatically klansmen, I hate to tell you -- there are any number of skinhead groups trying to get a foothold by planting CDs in people's mailbox containing vile hatred set to music.

What I don't understand is that if they're so scared/angry/want to be isolated from the fearsome sight of people with dark skin, why don't they get together, buy an island, and isolate themselves?

Good question.

Reminds me of when the Ripper was roaming streets raping and killing women, and instead of all the MEN being subject to a curfew, women were. If men had been subject to a curfew instead, it would have been a lot easier to catch the man.

Well, racism stems from the long driven human instinct of trying to be supreme and dominant. Unfortunatly, we no longer live in caves, so that really doesn't work these days.

...Some twisted animals (not humans, they don't deserve that title) sent nooses to African American workers, one with a twisted note attached. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1E6xz-Zlano&mode=user&search=

They'll always be around.

What I don't understand is that if they're so scared/angry/want to be isolated from the fearsome sight of people with dark skin, why don't they get together, buy an island, and isolate themselves?

Territorial ambitions. An island just isn't enough.

This surprises you? Racism and bigotry haven't gone away, they've just (mostly) gone underground. And away from the public eye, "oppressed" viewpoints (which, to be utterly honest, they are) just become ever more radical and extreme.

It's why banning hate speech and racial vilification laws are stupid and counterproductive. You can't ban a viewpoint - you just drive it underground. Only by honestly facing that point, allowing free speech, and defeating racism in the forum of ideas can racism be defeated.

I agree.

http://www.truthout.org/imgs.art_02/3.101906J2.jpg

And their robes have gone Fabulous! :D

I've seen bright shiny purple sheets and emerald green satin sheets. I never knew the Klan felt that way. Still, it makes sense. Nobody else will fuck em except eachother. ;)

...Some twisted animals (not humans, they don't deserve that title) sent nooses to African American workers, one with a twisted note attached. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1E6xz-Zlano&mode=user&search=

Why do they deserve to be called animals? What does that say about animals?
HUMANS ARE FUCKING ANIMALS.

Those responsible for the actions being reported in the OP's link deserve some good old fashionned "reeducation". Preferably the kind of "reeducation" that involves getting hit in the face with a shovel repeatedly for being a stupid racist asshole.

Seriously, this makes me bristle. How in the nine hells can anyone(read: the supervisor) take lightly and try to pass as a joke one of his employees receiving a noose?

This is a death threat, pure and simple, and culprits ought to have a nice stay in prison for a couple of years so they can rethink their life and hopefully learn a thing or two about respect and proper behaviour in society.

Here's an instance of tolerated racism.

Because I'm poking fun at how nothing pisses off racists more then interracial dating? :rolleyes:

Not all White Supremacists are automatically klansmen, I hate to tell you -- there are any number of skinhead groups trying to get a foothold by planting CDs in people's mailbox containing vile hatred set to music.

What I don't understand is that if they're so scared/angry/want to be isolated from the fearsome sight of people with dark skin, why don't they get together, buy an island, and isolate themselves?

Because Kat, How else are they to spread their message about the evil darkies?

Plus, they know if they actually get themselves an island, then we'll be able to nuke them and be rid of them once and for all.

Because Kat, How else are they to spread their message about the evil darkies?

Plus, they know if they actually get themselves an island, then we'll be able to nuke them and be rid of them once and for all.

I'd rather we got rid of the cause of the problem: white people!

The only way to fix this is to interbred wildly with everyone until we're all a nice, sexy shade of tan.

Think about it. It's like the most fun way to commit a genocide without ever having to kill anybody. :p Sure, it'll be hard work and take a generation or two, but I know I'm up to the task!

The KKK took my baby awaaa-aaaay!

Can't they just dust the objects for prints and match them? Also, a noose can be construed as a death threat (hell, it IS one). So, the person could personally sue the offender to see the offender in jail, paying his life-savings and, in general, SUFFERING. Like HELL.

This surprises you? Racism and bigotry haven't gone away, they've just (mostly) gone underground. And away from the public eye, "oppressed" viewpoints (which, to be utterly honest, they are) just become ever more radical and extreme.

It's why banning hate speech and racial vilification laws are stupid and counterproductive. You can't ban a viewpoint - you just drive it underground. Only by honestly facing that point, allowing free speech, and defeating racism in the forum of ideas can racism be defeated.

Erm. Do you know that the KKK targeted white Republicans, for no other reason then the fact that they were Republicans? That's right. Just a fun-fact here.

The day the KKK ceases to exist is definitely no where in sight. Sadly.

Where are all the white women at?
What song is that?

...Some twisted animals (not humans, they don't deserve that title) sent nooses to African American workers, one with a twisted note attached. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1E6xz-Zlano&mode=user&search=

Hey, hey. Don't insult animals. I'd say the KKK is some sort of speaking fungus, cultivated in the dankest and filthiest parts of society.

Hey, hey. Don't insult animals. I'd say the KKK is some sort of speaking fungus, cultivated in the dankest and filthiest parts of society.

Problems are that it exists within even the most respected parts of society just as well. It's an enigma of oddness. I still think the whole "Let's be racist but nobody should know who we are," thing is a little too much. Just take off the hoods already and own up to what you do.

of course they are still around what you expect? they had a LARGE LARGE numbers all over U.S. They were the Largest Supreme Clan in America. But at least they are weakened now.

of course they are still around what you expect? they had a LARGE LARGE numbers all over U.S. They were the Largest Supreme Clan in America. But at least they are weakened now.

They're not really all that weak though. They might not be as open and out there as they were during the early and mid 1900s but they're out there in force still and as far north as upstate New York.

Problems are that it exists within even the most respected parts of society just as well. It's an enigma of oddness. I still think the whole "Let's be racist but nobody should know who we are," thing is a little too much. Just take off the hoods already and own up to what you do.

It's human nature, only showing what you really think when you feel you're safe by anonymity or absolute power. Look at the Internet; it's rife with that sort of crap.

Ok...what about Germany for example where there are free speech laws banning certain expressions...?

Entirely true. Unfortunately, it is ALSO true that Germany has the largest population of Neo-Nazi Skinheads in Europe. REAL effective, that legislation :rolleyes:.

Erm. Do you know that the KKK targeted white Republicans, for no other reason then the fact that they were Republicans? That's right. Just a fun-fact here.

Probably because it was a Republican President who freed the slaves.