NationStates Jolt Archive


If you could change laws....

Soviestan
07-10-2007, 00:59
what would you make legal that is currently illegal? Or what legal thing(s) would you make illegal? would mandate certain things like energy emissions?
Ultraviolent Radiation
07-10-2007, 01:19
what would you make legal that is currently illegal? Or what legal thing(s) would you make illegal? would mandate certain things like energy emissions?

Yes, exothermicity would be mandatory.
Phase IV
07-10-2007, 01:28
I would ban slimy lightweight arse-lickers from ever getting the opportunity to run for office (in the UK: You know who I'm referring to :p).
I'd also update things and raise the age of mandatory education to 18.
Soheran
07-10-2007, 01:36
what would you make legal that is currently illegal?

Public nudity, marijuana, "soft" drugs generally, same-sex marriage, a whole host of other things that I'm not thinking about right now.

Or what legal thing(s) would you make illegal?

Private ownership of anything but very small business.

would mandate certain things like energy emissions?

I like the idea of a carbon tax.
New Limacon
07-10-2007, 01:44
what would you make legal that is currently illegal? Or what legal thing(s) would you make illegal? would mandate certain things like energy emissions?

I'd change gravity. I never liked the idea of being stuck on earth just because "the man" felt that objects should be attracted to one another in proportion to their masses and inversely proportionally to their distances. That's just not cool.
EchoVect
07-10-2007, 01:57
I would start with making it a capital offense to spew bad science as fact for political gain (Al Gore), immediately followed by the public flogging and stockading of anyone who isnists on shoving the daily goings-on of so-called celebrities up our noses as if they were somehow newsworthy (TMZ, etc..)

As for things currently illegal, the idea that any unprocessed, naturally growing plant should be illegal is preposterous, absurd and otherwise inconceivable.

Ditto the concept of "hate speech". What an idiotic concept, that. "Don't say this about this one, or that about that one, or you will get locked up for 'Hate Speech' ".

Chylde Please.

How long, going down that road, before the government calls your protests "Hate Speech"?

The very idea that mere words can cause some form of harm has to be the biggest croque of garp since Freud's cigar and Dr. Spock's book on how to ruin your kids.
Posi
07-10-2007, 04:09
I'd outlaw pants. I'd also make it acceptable for outlaws to do things that are outlawed. It would provide a useful way of identifying them.
New Genoa
07-10-2007, 04:20
I'd legalize homicide.
Multiland
07-10-2007, 04:42
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Vallidus
07-10-2007, 04:43
what would you make legal that is currently illegal? Or what legal thing(s) would you make illegal? would mandate certain things like energy emissions?

I make people that made witty comments about laws they'd change/make illegal.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
07-10-2007, 04:52
I would alter the Thirteenth Amendment, so that it's legal to win specific performance in contract disputes. That way, when someone promises to paint my chicken coop and runs off, I could force his ass to do it. :p That would be kickass.
Hamilay
07-10-2007, 05:56
I would mandate my dictatorial rule.

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Free Socialist Allies
07-10-2007, 06:30
Legalize all drugs

Legalize euthanasia

Tax all religious organizations as businesses

Ban animal experimentation

Ban the production of fur

Restrict meat and dairy production to open range farms

Take away extra rights corporations gained from the 14th ammendment

Abolish any and all government censorship of everything

Socialize all insurance, healthcare, and utilities

Restrict prison sentences to only be given for violent crimes

Abolish capital punishment

Stop all war profiteering

Make file sharing legal
Neu Leonstein
07-10-2007, 08:38
Well, apart from all the usual libertarian stuff, I'd abolish speed limits on anything but residential roads in suburbs. To balance that, I'd put up recommended speeds on other roads and drastically change the approach to how the law deals with accidents: an investigation concludes to what degree both drivers are responsible (ie could have prevented the accident) and then punishments and damages are handed out in the same manner as if the person had just walked over the other person and killed him, or damaged his property. No more special rules for roads - if someone dies in a car accident that could have been prevented, someone will be charged with manslaughter or even murder.
Kyronea
07-10-2007, 09:09
Private ownership of anything but very small business.



You mean I wouldn't be able to own a home, or my bed, or my computer, or any other thing that's in my room or my house? I wouldn't even own my clothes?
Lunatic Goofballs
07-10-2007, 09:50
I'd make it legal to pie people and illegal to duck a pie unless there is someone behind you. *nod*
Kyronea
07-10-2007, 09:57
I'd make it legal to pie people and illegal to duck a pie unless there is someone behind you. *nod*

I'd go for that. *pies Lunatic*
Rogue Protoss
07-10-2007, 10:07
I'd go for that. *pies Lunatic*

ya but expand on it one week a year an entire world wide PIE WAR!
with pie bombs and pie for weapons, and all leaders must compete in a pie fight to become president
Librazia
07-10-2007, 16:36
I don't think there is anything legal that I would make illegal.

However:

Legalize all drugs, prostitution, and gun ownership.

End all censorship, zoning laws, public property, capital punishment, and income taxes.

Pretty much abolish every law except those forbidding violent crimes and theft.
Intestinal fluids
07-10-2007, 17:59
End all censorship, zoning laws, public property, capital punishment, and income taxes.

Pretty much abolish every law except those forbidding violent crimes and theft.

All i can say is, i hope that by post #1000 your answers differ from what they are now. Good luck.
Cameroi
07-10-2007, 18:12
i would make it unconstitutional for there to be any law banning the POSSESSION of ANYthing. i would however ban the sale, mass production, or wholesale importing of private passinger automobiles and balistic projectile fire arms. along with which i would of course NOT use tax money to pave roads, nor of course, for more or less obvious reasons of the resaulting economic structure, would there be any such thing as gas stations nor gun stores.

and of course public nudity would be lawful but optional.

i would restrict the fencing of land to privacy zones immediately surrounding dwelling places and to secure livestock, or vegitable patches from wildlife. these i would severely limit that size of, and would not permit to abbut one another without public buffer zones between them for human and wild access.

i would also replace building codes with a realestate sales code, thus freeing rural owner builders to be creative to their hearts content and breaking the building contracting monopoly.

i would not recognize economic enterprises as legal persons, though forming them of any structure and for any lawful purpose would not be inhibited in any way. there would be no such protection racket as bussiness licencing.

people would be accountable for creating NONvoluntary public health and safety risks, but not for those clearing requiring voluntary and in no way coerced, even by economic circumstances, subjecting one's self to them.

health care, physical infrastructure, and to whatever degree might by within a government's capacity and power, any and all neccessities of survival, would be considered vital and intrinsic aspects of any government's only legitimate reasons to exist.

careing for exotic creatures would be perfectly lawful at their keepers/samaritan's own risk. killing anything for any reason other then food, such as fur farming, or cosmetics testing, would not.

these are a few that cross my mind off the top of my head.

any and all biases that favor any one system of belief, idiology or economics over another in the the education sysem would be expressly forbidden and strictly enforced. (just the facts, ALL of the facts, and NO selective witholding of them either).

ALL information would be a PUBLIC RIGHT, including and especially, all information of a technical nature.

(and yes, someone COULD, build themselves and possess a gun, an automobile or even a nuclear tipped missle launching armoured vehicule, but ONLY by building it themselves could they come into possession of such an item. somehow i don't suspect this would make them particularly common.)

=^^=
.../\...
Lunatic Goofballs
07-10-2007, 18:18
ya but expand on it one week a year an entire world wide PIE WAR!
with pie bombs and pie for weapons, and all leaders must compete in a pie fight to become president

Pie them all; let God sort them out! :)
Cabra West
07-10-2007, 18:19
what would you make legal that is currently illegal? Or what legal thing(s) would you make illegal? would mandate certain things like energy emissions?

I'd legalise abortion and gay marriage.
And I think I'd outlaw mayonnaise in salads.
Soheran
07-10-2007, 18:21
You mean I wouldn't be able to own a home, or my bed, or my computer, or any other thing that's in my room or my house? I wouldn't even own my clothes?

"anything but very small" applies to "business."

Yeah, the phrasing's bad, I know.
Miodrag Superior
07-10-2007, 18:25
I would decriminalise all drugs, to eradicate the most of the time tacit and at times open alliance between organised crime and police forces of ALL countries of the world.

We all know that more dangerous drugs were invented as a reaction to criminalising simpler, more natural ones, just for the purpose of appeasing US pharmaceutical industry. Opium was banned, morphium was invented. Then later the latter was banned too and heroin was refined, until it in turn was outlawed, and synthetci drugs came along -- of course some syntetic drugs are condoned and indeed öwned"by corporations, and all the other ones are ïllegal". What a pile of garbage!

We all also know that Queen Victoria used opium and cannabis profusely -- Yes, indeed the same Victoria who covered chair legs so that men would not think of women's naked bodies.

Eventually we all know that the attemto to outlaw booze in the US made the mafia extremely powerfult. Indeed one must wonder if prohibition was introduced solely for the very purpose of empowering the mob.

Therefore -- all drus free, no extrobitanm cost = untaxed earning for the mob/(undercover)police, no appeal of the forbidden fruit to recruit hopeless youth, no extorbitant taxation for an alleged "war on drugs" => tax go down, earning power increases, trust in governemtns does to, weapons smugglers do not have extra cash from smuggling drus.

Second, I would completely ban firearms to everybody the world over -- police, army, whoever. Gangsters would be forced to hand in their guns, weapon makers would have to close down overnight, once all guns have been seized and destroyed (by still guns weilding police), police hands in their guns too.

Everybody must learn karate/judo/jiujitsu -- not just police. And no guns anywhere. Not even in museums.

I guess these two would do for a start. Then I'd see what next.
Librazia
07-10-2007, 22:37
All i can say is, i hope that by post #1000 your answers differ from what they are now. Good luck.

What is wrong with how I would change the laws?
Intestinal fluids
07-10-2007, 23:12
What is wrong with how I would change the laws?

#1 censorship: In general censorship is a bad thing. However there are plenty of reasons why censorship would be vital to national interests. Reporters not reporting on troop locations and positions during a battle would be a simple example that comes to mind. There hasnt been a government since the creation of modern man that hasnt held secrets from the populace for legitimate reasons of the public safety. Hence the need for censorship of some form.
#2 Zoning laws: Ok get back to me on not wanting zoning laws after i move a garbage dump next door to your home on the left, a nice coal mine on the property to the right of you and maybe a nice dynamite testing range across the street. Ill just move you say? Well good luck, due to the unsavory neighborhood, instead of having a house whos equity would have been your retirement now is worth less then you owe on it. And just whos going to buy it?
#3 Abolishment of public property: You do of course realize a huge % of the natural resources of woodlands in the US are controlled and owned by State and Federal governments that strictly limit its exposure to commercial development and mineral exploitation. If you dont allow public lands, ill give you ONE guess what private land holders will do to these resources. Its not even hard to guess. If you had no public lands where would we hold our govenments? Where would we hold our criminals? Where would we house the public safety officials and equiptment tasked with protecting us all? How would we create and maintain continuous road connectivity and maintenence?
#4 Capital punishment meh opinion either way.
#5 income tax: Replaced with?

No crime except forbidding violent crime and theft? LoL. Thats a big enough loophole to put almost any behavior in. May i break into your house at night and blow an airhorn in your ear while your sleeping? I promise not to steal anything. Or how about as a bad neighbor i just play my stereo at earthshaking volumes on the wall right next to your apartment day and night. There are a billion of such examples.
Librazia
07-10-2007, 23:53
#1 censorship: In general censorship is a bad thing. However there are plenty of reasons why censorship would be vital to national interests. Reporters not reporting on troop locations and positions during a battle would be a simple example that comes to mind. There hasnt been a government since the creation of modern man that hasnt held secrets from the populace for legitimate reasons of the public safety. Hence the need for censorship of some form.
#2 Zoning laws: Ok get back to me on not wanting zoning laws after i move a garbage dump next door to your home on the left, a nice coal mine on the property to the right of you and maybe a nice dynamite testing range across the street. Ill just move you say? Well good luck, due to the unsavory neighborhood, instead of having a house whos equity would have been your retirement now is worth less then you owe on it. And just whos going to buy it?
#3 Abolishment of public property: You do of course realize a huge % of the natural resources of woodlands in the US are controlled and owned by State and Federal governments that strictly limit its exposure to commercial development and mineral exploitation. If you dont allow public lands, ill give you ONE guess what private land holders will do to these resources. Its not even hard to guess. If you had no public lands where would we hold our govenments? Where would we hold our criminals? Where would we house the public safety officials and equiptment tasked with protecting us all? How would we create and maintain continuous road connectivity and maintenence?
#4 Capital punishment meh opinion either way.
#5 income tax: Replaced with?

No crime except forbidding violent crime and theft? LoL. Thats a big enough loophole to put almost any behavior in. May i break into your house at night and blow an airhorn in your ear while your sleeping? I promise not to steal anything. Or how about as a bad neighbor i just play my stereo at earthshaking volumes on the wall right next to your apartment day and night. There are a billion of such examples.

I agree on the first point, in that the military shouldn't tell reporters details on tactics and troop positions. Once they have made that mistake, it's already too late to stop with censorship.

Why build a dump in expensive residential land when it could be cheaply built somewhere else? Also, I would consider that a crime if the dump is causing harm to anyone or their property. Same with explosives testing. A coal mine must be built where the coal is. If people live there, the coal mine owner will have to buy them out. The qualities of certain areas, and not governmental force, should group land use according to where it works best.

The government shouldn't own much of anything IMO. Prisons could be on private land, police departments need not be government owned (though it wouldn't bother me if they were), roads could be private, and government doesn't have to meet on public land, they could meet at any location that will be donated for the meeting. Anything that the government needs to own it could rent, but I suppose some very small exceptions (ie public property) would be okay. However, we certainly need far less than we have now. 88% of Ontario is public property.

Capital punishment is too much power to give to the state IMO.

Income tax could be replaced with far less spending.

The last part, I suppose I will add to my previous statement laws protecting property and laws preventing fraud. Loud noises could be property crimes or crimes against people if they are causing harm. However, this would ideally be solved with private deliberation and not resorting to the use of government courts.
Layarteb
07-10-2007, 23:57
what would you make legal that is currently illegal? Or what legal thing(s) would you make illegal? would mandate certain things like energy emissions?

I would make the senseless beating of morons and all those that should be stomped out by the "survival of the fittest" theory but are protected by society completely legal but only if the beating of them involved using a stick.
Morenex
08-10-2007, 00:07
:sniper::mp5:

You know how you cant own fully automatic 21st century weapons?
Well in my country my people can own what ever they want!!!!!
(except for explosives)

Letting people own new fully automatic weapons would solve the do I have enough troops? dilemma.
Lame Bums
08-10-2007, 03:52
what would you make legal that is currently illegal? Or what legal thing(s) would you make illegal? would mandate certain things like energy emissions?

Make Legal/Enact: Drinking (16), The Draft, American History classes in schools.

Make Illegal: Spanish (language), Homosexuality, Pedophilia, Socialist/Communist ideologies, among others... hell, there's a long list.