NationStates Jolt Archive

NSG thinks this should be my thread.

Just a little observation...

Prior to, and during, the Hundred Years War the English are almost invariably portrayed as the 'bad guys', what with the killing Joan of Arc and being evil savages driving off the poor Celts and suchlike.
AFTER the Hundred Years War, the English are almost always the good guys EXCEPT when dealing with America or Australian/Indian natives.

Just a little observation, I thought it was interesting. What does NSG think?

You mean Hogwarts doesn't really exist? :D

It does. It's in Scotland, IMS.

Lets do the timewarp again.....

You mean Hogwarts doesn't really exist? :D

Actually if you throw in the movies "Michael Collins", "The wind that shook the barley" "Some mothers son" and that one with Brad Pitt as the provo, they're bastards up to the 90's......

(This is a relatively recent development however, and before that it was stiff upper lips, chaps (not leather), and foggy london)

Possibly relevant fact: The director of 'The Wind That Shook The Barley' is English. So perhaps they see themselves as bastards.......

Just a little observation...

Prior to, and during, the Hundred Years War the English are almost invariably portrayed as the 'bad guys', what with the killing Joan of Arc and being evil savages driving off the poor Celts and suchlike.
AFTER the Hundred Years War, the English are almost always the good guys EXCEPT when dealing with America or Australian/Indian natives.

Just a little observation, I thought it was interesting. What does NSG think?

Actually if you throw in the movies "Michael Collins", "The wind that shook the barley" "Some mothers son" and that one with Brad Pitt as the provo, they're bastards up to the 90's......

(This is a relatively recent development however, and before that it was stiff upper lips, chaps (not leather), and foggy london)

Possibly relevant fact: The director of 'The Wind That Shook The Barley' is English. So perhaps they see themselves as bastards.......

He's a leftwinger and therefore 'mad, insane and wrong', in that order. Truthfully though, he didn't get half as much of a hard time as he would have even in the early 90's. For instance, Gareth Pierce was one of the lawyers who led the Guilfords fours appeal. For years after, regardless of the context her name came up in, she was referred to by the tabloids as "IRA lawyer Gareth pierce".

Possibly relevant fact: The director of 'The Wind That Shook The Barley' is English. So perhaps they see themselves as bastards.......
To an extent, yes.

Sometimes we look back at history and think "man, that was really wrong of us". At other times, it's more like "you know what? We worked our arses off to control basically all of the important and cool bits of the world - well played".

Really depends what kind of mood you're in. Maybe the director was in a bit of a foul mood at the time, really.