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Apparently, no matter where I live, I deserve to suffer because of what the leaders and past inhabitants of said land did. Is there a country that's completely... history neutral, that nobody in their right mind would have a grudge against?

Croatia is an excellent choice.

... Is this same Croatia that had the fucking USTASHI?

There are few who legitimately deserve to suffer, but most do anyway. Lot of it is self inflicted. How far do you plan to drag that cross anyways?

Until I find a country where I am me, not some sort of pawn on a national chessboard.

... Is this same Croatia that had the fucking USTASHI?

I don't know of what you speak. I only know Croatians are generally nice people, the laws are lax, the temperature is compatible with human comfort, and they don't have an extensive public history.

Apparently, no matter where I live, I deserve to suffer because of what the leaders and past inhabitants of said land did. Is there a country that's completely... history neutral, that nobody in their right mind would have a grudge against?
No, there is no such place. Suck it up and learn to cope like the rest of us.

Ireland, my ancestors made sure that they didn't have the chance to be so naughty :)

There are few who legitimately deserve to suffer, but most do anyway. Lot of it is self inflicted. How far do you plan to drag that cross anyways?

I don't know of what you speak. I only know Croatians are generally nice people, the laws are lax, the temperature is compatible with human comfort, and they don't have an extensive public history.

Croatia was among the worst war criminals of WWII.

Apparently, no matter where I live, I deserve to suffer because of what the leaders and past inhabitants of said land did. Is there a country that's completely... history neutral, that nobody in their right mind would have a grudge against?

Not really, no.

Go and live in international waters imo. Might not be too convenient for shopping though

I guess you can try Iceland?

I guess you can try Iceland?

They had the Vikings, those guys were vicious.

They had the Vikings, those guys were vicious.

Thats true, but in reality who blames the Vikings for anything nowadays? I mean it's not as if I have evey heard my East Anglian friends complain about how the Vikings raped an pillaged their ansceters.

Thats true, but in reality who blames the Vikings for anything nowadays? I mean it's not as if I have evey heard my East Anglian friends complain about how the Vikings raped an pillaged their ansceters.

I'm sure someone's got something against them.

Thats true, but in reality who blames the Vikings for anything nowadays? I mean it's not as if I have evey heard my East Anglian friends complain about how the Vikings raped an pillaged their ansceters.

Well my Viking friends and I boast of how our ancestors raped and pillaged England...

;)

The USA, duh. Everyone loves them from what I hear.

The USA, duh. Everyone loves them from what I hear.

Sure, if I want the world to hate me.

Apparently, no matter where I live, I deserve to suffer because of what the leaders and past inhabitants of said land did. Is there a country that's completely... history neutral, that nobody in their right mind would have a grudge against?

No and you'd be wasting your time trying to find one

Ragnar, Civilization 4 Warlords. Ugh. Damn Vikings. Damn them all.

Exactly. People see that and they remember things.

Thats true, but in reality who blames the Vikings for anything nowadays? I mean it's not as if I have evey heard my East Anglian friends complain about how the Vikings raped an pillaged their ansceters.

Ragnar, Civilization 4 Warlords. Ugh. Damn Vikings. Damn them all.

Sure, if I want the world to hate me.

why do you care if the world hates you if you're happy with yourself? Relying on the approval of others for your own happiness is bound to phail.

why do you care if the world hates you if you're happy with yourself? Relying on the approval of others for your own happiness is bound to phail.

QFT

Apparently, no matter where I live, I deserve to suffer because of what the leaders and past inhabitants of said land did. Is there a country that's completely... history neutral, that nobody in their right mind would have a grudge against?

Why do you choose to suffer from what others have done in the past?

Croatia was among the worst war criminals of WWII.

No, Hitler and Stalin were among the worst. I don't think dirt can commit war crimes, but if it could, wouldn't Germany and Russia be the worst?

why do you care if the world hates you if you're happy with yourself? Relying on the approval of others for your own happiness is bound to phail.

Why do you choose to suffer from what others have done in the past?

See, if others hate me, they will attack me. That's primarily what I'm trying to avoid here.

South Korea, perhaps? Only problem with them is all the gamers who have insane skills because they don't do anything else. :headbang:

The same South Korea that's still at war with North Korea?

Apparently, no matter where I live, I deserve to suffer because of what the leaders and past inhabitants of said land did. Is there a country that's completely... history neutral, that nobody in their right mind would have a grudge against?

South Korea, perhaps? Only problem with them is all the gamers who have insane skills because they don't do anything else. :headbang:

See, if others hate me, they will attack me. That's primarily what I'm trying to avoid here.

Attack you? Do they attack you physically or something?

Just get over it

Attack you? Do they attack you physically or something?

Just get over it

They'll try. It's call war. Also, terrorism. I don't wanna be involved in that shit.

They'll try. It's call war. Also, terrorism. I don't wanna be involved in that shit.

Terrorism isn't anywhere near as big a problem as you seem to think. Why not try and find a country with a low crime rate if you want to dodge physical attacks. That's a much more productive way to go about things if you are determined to avoid any attacks

I don't know where you come from anyway. Care to tell?

Terrorism isn't anywhere near as big a problem as you seem to think. Why not try and find a country with a low crime rate if you want to dodge physical attacks. That's a much more productive way to go about things if you are determined to avoid any attacks

I don't know where you come from anyway. Care to tell?

Well, apparently I'm AUSTRALIAN, but I don't like being a fucking COUNTRY.

Well, apparently I'm AUSTRALIAN, but I don't like being a fucking COUNTRY.

Funny I always called the country Australia not Australian

See, if others hate me, they will attack me. That's primarily what I'm trying to avoid here.

Learn to live with it. The world is full of hate.

Tuvalu? Vanuatu? Those isles in the pacific seem to be pretty pacifistic :p

San Marino.

Apparently, no matter where I live, I deserve to suffer because of what the leaders and past inhabitants of said land did. Is there a country that's completely... history neutral, that nobody in their right mind would have a grudge against?

Apolgies, I require a larger context. Have the past inhabitants of your country done something that the rest of the world might blame the current citizenry for it? Are you actually thinking of moving, or is this just hypothetical?

That having been said, there are no countries without dark spots in their histories. But those spots vary in size and severity and also are affected by the collective memory of the human race. Like a previous poster said, few today would blame a Scandinavian for what the Vikings may have done. But today, many may look back at the actions of the US government and find that it "taints" the US citizenry in someway...which is damned unfortunate and rather...silly...if you ask me...

..."Blood Debt"...holding one's descendants accountable for the actions of an ancestor...is a pretty shaky ideology in my book...but holding holding an entire group of people accountable for the actions of a few, whether it be in the present or in the past (even if the group is not descended from the "perpetrators")...merely by association, is INDEFENSIBLE.

So if someone walks up to you on the street, demanding you to apologize for the actions of a leader in the past...tell him/her to kiss your ass...

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Well, my primary worry is that one day, "my country" is going to lose a war, and then I'll get killed by angry soldiers for it.

Well, my primary worry is that one day, "my country" is going to lose a war, and then I'll get killed by angry soldiers for it.

wtf?

Don't think like that. Go get wasted and find a girl man. Don't worry about shit like that.

I second that. I don't think any country bears grudge against San Marino. Perhaps some demented individuals somewhere in the world do, though, but a war? -- Nah... not gonna happen.

According to wikipedia San Marino did declare war against both Britain and Germany during WW2

Dunno if that counts though

San Marino.

I second that. I don't think any country bears grudge against San Marino. Perhaps some demented individuals somewhere in the world do, though, but a war? -- Nah... not gonna happen.

Well, my primary worry is that one day, "my country" is going to lose a war, and then I'll get killed by angry soldiers for it.

...Dude, forgive me, but what prompted this line of thinking?

...

And if you're worried about one day being THREATENED with this sort of thing...Then rather than demand he kiss your ass, you fight back.

...Dude, forgive me, but what prompted this line of thinking?

Watching humans fight. I don't wanna be involved with this backwater, inbred swamp of an international community.

And if you're worried about one day being THREATENED with this sort of thing...Then rather than demand he kiss your ass, you fight back.

I live in Australia. If there's a real war, nobody else is going to fight. Fuck it, I figure I should leave the world behind and not fight anymore.

Backwater international community...?

Backwater to what? The Galactic Federation?

I personally don't know if there is life outside of Earth, but if there is, what they're doing cannot possibly be worse than what we're doing.

Watching humans fight. I don’t wanna be involved with this backwater, inbred swamp of an international community.
Backwater international community...?

Backwater to what? The Galactic Federation?

I live in Australia. If there's a real war, nobody else is going to fight. Fuck it, I figure I should leave the world behind and not fight anymore.

The world is damned irrational place indeed. However, we live in it. The first step is realizing that.

Second step is learning how to deal with the glorious clusterfuck that is humanity.

The world is damned irrational place indeed. However, we live in it. The first step is realizing that.

Second step is learning how to deal with the glorious clusterfuck that is humanity.

I realise it. I just refuse to accept it.

The disappointing thing is that we had the whole Cold War and we didn't wipe ourselves out.

I'm going to bed. Maybe tomorrow morning I'll be less disillusioned with sentient life than I am now.

I realise it. I just refuse to accept it.

The disappointing thing is that we had the whole Cold War and we didn't wipe ourselves out.

I'm going to bed. Maybe tomorrow morning I'll be less disillusioned with sentient life than I am now.

Dude. Go get wasted, forget about your worries for a night. Relax.

I realise it. I just refuse to accept it.

The disappointing thing is that we had the whole Cold War and we didn't wipe ourselves out.

I'm going to bed. Maybe tomorrow morning I'll be less disillusioned with sentient life than I am now.

Good idea.

Believe me, a night's rest does good for the body and soul. You wake up, and suddenly, the worries you had yesterday don't seem quite as...big...as they were the day before.

Way too much Metroid Prime 3.
Does not compute.

Backwater international community...?

Backwater to what? The Galactic Federation?
I think the Galactic Federation is pretty backwater to the Space Pirates. Honestly, the GF are a bunch of wooses. All they do is sit back and order bounty hunters to do all the work. The Space Pirates? They have balls. THEY do the work, not some hire-hands like Samus.

(Way too much Metroid Prime 3.)

Faroe Islands ftw.

Apparently, no matter where I live, I deserve to suffer because of what the leaders and past inhabitants of said land did. Is there a country that's completely... history neutral, that nobody in their right mind would have a grudge against?

Try Antarctica or fail that, Switzerland or Greenland.

Try Antarctica or fail that, Switzerland or Greenland.

Oh, Kyrozerkia, hope you don't mind, I stole your name a few months back for my BF2142 account.

How about the Bahamas?

Oh, Kyrozerkia, hope you don't mind, I stole your name a few months back for my BF2142 account.

You did? I didn't even noticed, but I am flattered. :) But I must ask why? I mean, honestly, my name is just a bunch of random letters that looked sexy together. (And one of my better accounts was Farflorin).

There are few who legitimately deserve to suffer, but most do anyway. Lot of it is self inflicted. How far do you plan to drag that cross anyways?

LOLLERZ.

:sniper:

You could always follow my plan and move to a different continent and take up the life of a hobo. I'm not sure which continent, though. I'm thinking Europe might be good, because of all the small countries with (presumably) not so heavily guarded borders to sneak across and a relatively high rate of English or German speakers, but Africa might be easier to avoid being found in . . .
Decisions, decisions.

Apparently, no matter where I live, I deserve to suffer because of what the leaders and past inhabitants of said land did. Is there a country that's completely... history neutral, that nobody in their right mind would have a grudge against?

Not a country but a whole continent. Antarctica.:D

Apparently, no matter where I live, I deserve to suffer because of what the leaders and past inhabitants of said land did. Is there a country that's completely... history neutral, that nobody in their right mind would have a grudge against?

First of all, my English is bad + I'm drunk ;) xcuse me!
Ok, I live in a country with Past. But people thank us for what we did (fought with Nazis!) There's a controversy. But the problem is that we bear grudge to (both) Russia and Sweden. (and EU, but that's the norm, isn't it)

They had the Vikings, those guys were vicious.

Vikings weren't vicious. Before all they were businessmen.

QFTChildish. The world isn't bw, you know?

not fight anymore.
??? Anymore?

The world is damned irrational place indeed. However, we live in it. The first step is realizing that.

Second step is learning how to deal with the glorious clusterfuck that is humanity.

That's QFT. In reality, we have being doing quite alright. (since 1944)

That's QFT. In reality, we have being doing quite alright. (since 1944)

Actually, since 1944, it's probably been worse.

It sounds like the OP just needs to claim a deserted island somewhere and go at it Robinson Crusoe style.