2007 MLB Playoffs
Here are the match-ups for the Divisional Series.
Flubs vs D-backs
Rockies vs Phillies
Indians vs. Yankees
Angels vs. Red Sox
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My picks for the ALCS matchups are:
D-Backs vs. Rockies
Indians vs. Red Sox
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World Series matchups
Rockies vs. Indians
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World Series champs will be the Cleveland Indians
Chumblywumbly
03-10-2007, 14:01
May I be the first to post the obligatory question, World Series?!?!
Obligatory World Series?!?!
You and the rest of your European friends who will show up in this thread can get the hell out and make your own fucking thread if you want to bitch about the name. So get out of here troll.
Chumblywumbly
03-10-2007, 14:10
Indeed. Every MLB team in the world competes.
Touché, sir.
My point was inevitable.
Chumblywumbly
03-10-2007, 14:10
You and the rest of your European friends who will show up in this thread can get the hell out and make your own fucking thread if you want to bitch about the name.
Calm down dear, it’s only a silly game of sport.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-10-2007, 14:11
May I be the first to post the obligatory question, World Series?!?!
Indeed. Every MLB team in the world competes.
Gotta vote for the Cubbies, hometown spirit and all. They better not screw it up like they did in 2003. How the hell do you go from a 7 run lead to a 2 run loss in one inning!?!?!
Andaluciae
03-10-2007, 14:38
Here are the match-ups for the Divisional Series.
Flubs vs D-backs
Rockies vs Phillies
Indians vs. Yankees
Angels vs. Red Sox
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My picks for the ALCS matchups are:
D-Backs vs. Rockies
Indians vs. Red Sox
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World Series matchups
Rockies vs. Indians
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World Series champs will be the Cleveland Indians
Oh, how I wish.
But this past year in sports has taught me to expect a second place finish.
Oh, how I wish.
But this past year in sports has taught me to expect a second place finish.
They'll win this year because they played home games in Milwaukee and had a Wild Thing glasses night.
Myrmidonisia
03-10-2007, 14:42
You and the rest of your European friends who will show up in this thread can get the hell out and make your own fucking thread if you want to bitch about the name. So get out of here troll.
Damn good answer.
I'm going with the Phils and Diamondbacks in the NL series and the Yankees/Sox in the AL.
World, that's right, World Series will be Phils/Sox with the Sox winning in 5.
Myrmidonisia
03-10-2007, 14:43
Gotta vote for the Cubbies, hometown spirit and all. They better not screw it up like they did in 2003. How the hell do you go from a 7 run lead to a 2 run loss in one inning!?!?!
I'll bet Tom Glavine has some new insight into that...Excuse me, that's Mr 1/3...
Gotta vote for the Cubbies, hometown spirit and all. They better not screw it up like they did in 2003. How the hell do you go from a 7 run lead to a 2 run loss in one inning!?!?!
You can't win when your ace pitcher has only won twice since signing his extension.
Anti-Social Darwinism
03-10-2007, 15:51
I have to go with the Rockies. Why? Holliday, Helton and Hawpe (not to mention Matsui and Tulowitzki).
I got lucky - I have tickets to the Saturday playoff game at Coors Field. Woo Hoo!
Corneliu 2
03-10-2007, 16:10
Cubs and Rockies
Tribe and BoSox
Cubs and BoSox
BoSox in 6.
I have to go with the Rockies. Why? Holliday, Helton and Hawpe (not to mention Matsui and Tulowitzki).
I got lucky - I have tickets to the Saturday playoff game at Coors Field. Woo Hoo!
If I were to take the Rockies I would do it on account of how hot they have been. The MLB playoffs are largely a crapshoot and the team that is the hottest entering has a good shot of winning it all.
Retired WerePenguins
03-10-2007, 20:05
May I be the first to post the obligatory question, World Series?!?!
Yes, in theory Canada can be in it. But only in theory. :p
The title of this championship may be confusing to some readers from countries where baseball is not a major sport (or even where it is), because the "World" Series is confined to the champions of two baseball leagues that currently operate only in the United States and Canada.
The explanation is that when the term "World's Championship Series" was first used in the 1880s, baseball at a highly-skilled level was almost exclusively confined to North America, especially the United States. Thus it was understood that the winner of the major league championship was the best baseball team in the world. The title of this event was soon shortened to "World's Series" and later to "World Series".
depends on how A-Rod does and Yankees pitching..if he's on like he has been lately and the pitchers perform at the level they are capable of the Yanks will win it all..they are the winning est team since the all star break
New Genoa
03-10-2007, 20:38
Yes, in theory Canada can be in it. But only in theory. :p
Well, them Blue Jays were champs 14 years ago.
Dawkinshire
03-10-2007, 20:41
phillies beat the yankees in 6
Kaba Aye
03-10-2007, 21:27
Being a New York Mets fan, I don't care who wins, as long as it's not the Phillies...
Kiryu-shi
03-10-2007, 21:30
:sniper::sniper::sniper::sniper::sniper: @ this topic.
Soviestan
03-10-2007, 21:35
I vote teh Brooklyn Dodgers. I heard they even have a negro on the team now.
imported_NightHawk
03-10-2007, 21:40
first i say, CUCK THE FUBS!!!(i only hate them because i am a Cardinals Fan)
I am calling the Rockies to win it all. They have been doing really well. I could see them jacking it all up on the road, but they have done really well at coors field, so we will have to see how it goes
I vote teh Brooklyn Dodgers. I heard they even have a negro on the team now.
Today is the anniversary of the darkest day in Dodger history. 56 years ago today Bobby Thompson hit the famous "Shot Heard Round the World" putting the Giants in the World Series and marking the end of one of the biggest chokes in baseball history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrI7dVj90zs&mode=related&search=
WC Imperial Court
03-10-2007, 22:16
Being a New York Mets fan, I don't care who wins, as long as it's not the Phillies...
Let's go Phils!!!!!!!
I hope against hope that we will win the World Series. I hope against hope that we will MAKE it to the World Series. Cuz few thought we'd make it this far. And I'm damn proud of the Fightin Phils even if we lose in the playoffs. Cuz we made it to the playoffs, Bitches!!!
WC Imperial Court
03-10-2007, 22:16
:sniper::sniper::sniper::sniper::sniper: @ this topic.
I <3 you Kiryu. :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
Infinite Revolution
03-10-2007, 22:40
why do people never learn? if you are putting up a poll asking a culturally specific question include a neutral option or else we will fuck with your poll.
Corneliu 2
03-10-2007, 22:43
NLDS:
Rockies 4
Phillies 2 in the 8th inning
Kiryu-shi
03-10-2007, 22:52
I <3 you Kiryu. :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Chase Utley blows. Four freaking Ks.
Corneliu 2
04-10-2007, 00:20
I take it rockies took game 1?
Infinite Revolution
04-10-2007, 03:30
This has already been discussed numerous times, in other threads. Please do a search.it bears repeating seeing as it has never been redressed.
Gun Manufacturers
04-10-2007, 03:31
May I be the first to post the obligatory question, World Series?!?!
This has already been discussed numerous times, in other threads. Please do a search.
Gun Manufacturers
04-10-2007, 03:33
Damn good answer.
I'm going with the Phils and Diamondbacks in the NL series and the Yankees/Sox in the AL.
World, that's right, World Series will be Phils/Sox with the Sox winning in 5.
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7538/owllolno2nx.jpg
Gun Manufacturers
04-10-2007, 03:35
depends on how A-Rod does and Yankees pitching..if he's on like he has been lately and the pitchers perform at the level they are capable of the Yanks will win it all..they are the winning est team since the all star break
The Yankees are also the winningest team in sports, with 26 championships (hopefully after the end of this postseason, that number will be 27). :D
Myrmidonisia
04-10-2007, 03:36
Chase Utley blows. Four freaking Ks.
Purdue over the Buckeyes? Don't start getting ideas just because you beat Notre Dame -- so has everyone else.
Purdue over the Buckeyes? Don't start getting ideas just because you beat Notre Dame -- so has everyone else.
You'll just see when I rush the field at Ross-Ade Stadium on Saturday.
Layarteb
04-10-2007, 03:48
NYY all the way baby!
New Stalinberg
04-10-2007, 03:53
Gotta vote for the Cubbies, hometown spirit and all. They better not screw it up like they did in 2003. How the hell do you go from a 7 run lead to a 2 run loss in one inning!?!?!
A fan sticking his arm out to catch the ball, how else? :rolleyes:
The answer of course is:
Go Cubs! Fuck the Yankees!
The South Islands
04-10-2007, 03:56
why do people never learn? if you are putting up a poll asking a culturally specific question include a neutral option or else we will fuck with your poll.
How come this type of post seems to never happen when people make Cricket or Rugby threads?
Myrmidonisia
04-10-2007, 04:00
You'll just see when I rush the field at Ross-Ade Stadium on Saturday.
I'll have to catch it on the news. I'm headed to Albuquerque this weekend to help a friend with a balloon.
The Yankees are also the winningest team in sports, with 26 championships (hopefully after the end of this postseason, that number will be 27). :D
Agreed :D
New Stalinberg
04-10-2007, 04:44
The Yankees are also the winningest team in sports, with 26 championships (hopefully after the end of this postseason, that number will be 27). :D
No shit.
Gee, maybe it's because they have the largest budget so they can buy all the "best" players with all their fucking money.
I heard that the Yankee payroll is 1/4th that of ALL OF MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL!
New Genoa
04-10-2007, 04:54
No shit.
Gee, maybe it's because they have the largest budget so they can buy all the "best" players with all their fucking money.
I heard that the Yankee payroll is 1/4th that of ALL OF MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL!
The yankees didn't "buy" their championships in 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s...so on. Payroll doesn't mean shit. Just look where it got the Mets and White Sox this year (both in the top 10).
And you'd be wrong about the Yankees soaking up 25%. It's closer to 7%, sorry.
And buying all the best players with their money? Give me a break. Take a look at the Yankees pitching staff and say that with a straight face. Roger Clemens is washed up, he doesn't count either.
No shit.
Gee, maybe it's because they have the largest budget so they can buy all the "best" players with all their fucking money.
I heard that the Yankee payroll is 1/4th that of ALL OF MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL!
Actually there are several owners who have a more cash than the Yankee's owner...unlike them he doesn't mind spending a chunk of his yearly take on his team so go whine to them about why your team doesn't perform as well....along with what NG said...you could even put a salary cap on the Yanks and they would still make playoffs year in and year out..
lastly even with "buying" all the "good" players doesn't explain from coming from being considered "dead" to being the most winningest team after allstar break and making the playoffs again 13 straight times...as well as closing a huge AL east gap and almost making a run for the AL east division..the Yanks perform when they need to and they do it consistently..
Getting paid more than the next guy isn't going to make them do that..if anything if all they cared about was the cash the Yanks would probably suck...why play harder if your gonna still get that 14 million a year...for the next four years...
and actually this season it has been the Yank's younger guys who have stepped up when they needed to...they aren't the ones making the tons of cash either...like A-rod Jeter and Clemens...
I wouldn't doubt it if you turned out to be a mets fan
I'm probably cheating a little given that I already know that Boston beat California (I refuse to call them "Los Angeles") in Game 1 and that Colorado won Game 1 of the "Battle of the Thieves" (since the Rockies and Phillies both "stole" the wild card and the NL East from the Padres and the Mets, respectively) in Philadelphia, but I still think that the team that's going to win the Series is the Yankees- they're the best team in baseball since the All-Star Break and that's not something I can ignore.
Now, if the poll asked who I *wanted* to win the Series I'd have a different answer. Since my Blue Jays aren't in it (again...), I cast my vote in favour of the Cubs only because they've been denied for so long (it's almost like they've never won it), with Cleveland and Colorado being close second choices (as the Indians also possess a long drought and the Rockies have never won it). Besides, I think after the collapses of the Padres and the Mets, the only thing weirder this year would be a Cubs win.
Krissland
04-10-2007, 05:28
Red Sox will take it. All in all they have a good hitting and good pitching this season so I really think they'll take it. Final prediction:
Philadelphia and Boston with Boston taking it in a sweep.
Cubs lose! Cubs lose!
Choke Cubs Choke! Choke Cubs Choke!
Hey Chicago whatdya say the Flubs are gonna lose today!
Anti-Social Darwinism
04-10-2007, 06:56
The Yankees are also the winningest team in sports, with 26 championships (hopefully after the end of this postseason, that number will be 27). :D
I detest the Yankees. Besides, the Rox swept the Yankees once this year.
CanuckHeaven
04-10-2007, 06:59
You and the rest of your European friends who will show up in this thread can get the hell out and make your own fucking thread if you want to bitch about the name. So get out of here troll.
He trolls....you flame? :eek:
Kiryu-shi
04-10-2007, 07:02
I wouldn't doubt it if you turned out to be a mets fan
Pfft. This is what a real Mets fan (me) thinks of the Skankies:
Top 10 reasons why the New York Yankees are the cause of everything bad in the world in the last century.
10. Every time Derek Jeter smirks, a person dies. Derek Jeter is constantly smirking, even in his sleep.
9. The New York Yankees steal smart and atheletic young children from numerous third world countries, keep them hidden under Yankee stadium, training them constantly until they turn into baseball stars or go crazy. The reasons behind both the homeless population in NYC as well as why third world countries stay third world. countries.
8. A-Rod inspires the belief that the less able you are to understand anything, the better you will be at making gigantic amounts of money. If you'll notice, Yankee fans seem to be in a constant state of self-delusion and ignorance. They're just following an example.
7. The Yankee corporation is currently trying to take over the world via computer chips they put into their hats. They control almost all inner city gangs already, and are the main smugglers of drugs into the United States.
6. George Steinbrenner convinced George W. Bush to become president when they were baseball owners together. The reason why Florida went to Bush? The ballot counters were former NYers, who wear Yankee hats. Steinbrenner is the real power behind the presidency.
5. The reason why many middle eastern countries hate the United States is because Steinbrenner jilted them, he decided muslim people can't play baseball back in his crazier days, in the early 80s. And then proceeded to steal an entire generation of arab men and turning them into taxi drivers. Steinbrenner is the real power behind the NYC Taxi & Limousine Commission.
4. The New York Yankees control China, because they control Chien Ming Wang, overrated star pitcher. Chien Ming Wang is actually Taiwanese, but no one can tell Asian's apart. And that name just sounds Chinese.
3. The Yankees caused World War Two, to try and get all opposing teams to send their players into the war. They are actually behind almost every war in the last century, for various reasons, mainly the slave trade.
2. The Yankee's control many of the world's most successful corporations by lending them slave labor, then blackmailing them/making them dependent on slave labor. 98.7 percent of the world's sweatshops are owned by the Yankees. They control most major TV channels, including the Disney corporation, and therefore are currently brainwashing everyone who watches TV into submitting quickly when the Yankees control the world.
1. The Yankees are currently in negotiations with the gas-beings from Saturn to send every non brainwashed person become slave labor. In return, the gasbeings will take over the universe and give it to the Yankees (the Yankees are extremely good negotiaters).
Edit: 0. The Yankees are the power behind Ruffy. Be scared.
Todsboro
04-10-2007, 07:13
I'm a Tribe fan, so I'm completely biased, but Cleveland's had a special kind of year. I really, really, really like the way the Indians are built around solid pitching (unlike their playoff teams from the 90's), as well as a good core of position players.
I do think this could be the year that Cleveland finally gets a championship (sorry, indoor soccer doesn't count in the U.S.).
Gun Manufacturers
04-10-2007, 11:56
Pfft. This is what a real Mets fan (me) thinks of the Skankies:
Wow, was that ever dumb. Get over the 2000 World Series, already.
Kiryu-shi
04-10-2007, 12:11
Wow, was that ever dumb. Get over the 2000 World Series, already.
If by dumb you mean the truth. You are just far too brainwashed to even comprehend the danger that we are all in. *flees*
*and refuses to watch the playoffs for the first time in memory*
Myrmidonisia
05-10-2007, 02:18
Wang screwed the pooch tonight. This was a must win game for the Yankees as Clemens is washed up. The only game I see Cleveland possibly losing is when they face Pettite, but then again I thought they would lose to Wang tonight.
The Tribe does look impressive tonight. And their uniforms look a lot like the Braves...I wouldn't mind seeing them in the Series.
Wang screwed the pooch tonight. This was a must win game for the Yankees as Clemens is washed up. The only game I see Cleveland possibly losing is when they face Pettite, but then again I thought they would lose to Wang tonight.
Corneliu 2
05-10-2007, 02:19
Colorado 10
Philly 5
Colorado is up 2-0
Cleveland is pounding up on the "Evil Empire" 9-3 into the sixth. YAY.
I think it's fairly obvious that the Red Sox are going to decimate everyone in there path, however much Eric Gagne tries to change that.
I think it's fairly obvious that the Red Sox are going to decimate everyone in there path, however much Eric Gagne tries to change that.
Gagne freaking sucks. Given his steep drop-off since 2003, I am seriously under the impression he was one of the many pitchers juicing before the testing began.
Gagne freaking sucks. Given his steep drop-off since 2003, I am seriously under the impression he was one of the many pitchers juicing before the testing began.
Probably. A sad, sad tale, the story of Gagne is. It's a good fucking thing that Paplebon is godly as a closer.
The Anisoptera Paradox
05-10-2007, 02:37
I live in Denver and I must say the moral regarding local sports teams has increased with the Rockies making it into the playoffs. It's a shame though that there are so many 'fair weather fans' out there who only adopt their hometown team when they're winning.... We are literally out of Rockies merchandise anywhere around Denver because these fans want to part of the ride, so to speak. The rest of the time, the last 12 years to be exact, they couldn't give a shit less and haven't bought anything even remotely resembling the fact that they are a Rockies fan. Of course the same thing happened in 2005 when the Broncos made it to the playoffs, all of a sudden, people wouldn't be seen without some sort of Bronco accessory adorning them. But, what can you do... I do hope the Rockies make it to the World Series and even win it, it would be a big boost to the ballclub and to the moral of the team and it's players. The series now is best out of 5 and they have 2 already... if the Phillies can't win on their own field, they're going to have a hell of a time winning on ours. Good luck Rocks... make it a 'Rocktober' to remember!
http://www.coloradorockies.com
Corneliu 2
05-10-2007, 03:47
Yankees lose game 1 to the Indians 11-3
Rockies took game 2 from the Phils and lead the series 2-0
Cubs and D-Backs are tied at 0 in the first.
Katganistan
05-10-2007, 03:49
ANYONE BUT THE YANKS!!!!!
Gooooooooooooooooooo CUBBYS!
Corneliu 2
05-10-2007, 03:50
ANYONE BUT THE YANKS!!!!!
Gooooooooooooooooooo CUBBYS!
:DTROLL! TROLL! Kat is provoking IDF! Kat is trolling:D
anyways....yea the Yankees just dropped game 1 so that is good news.
Shinfundo
05-10-2007, 04:05
First off I'm an expert at playoff picks.Got the entire 2006 MLB playoffs right.
I have in the Division series
The Red Sox beating the Angels in 4.
The Indians sweeping the Yankees.
The Rockies sweeping the Phillies.
The Diamondbacks beating the Cubs in 4.
In the Conference series
The Indians beating the Red Sox in 6.
The Rockies beating the Diamondbacks in 6.
Finally in the World Series
The Rockies beating the Indians in 5.
Kiryu-shi
05-10-2007, 04:28
ANYONE BUT THE YANKS!!!!!
Gooooooooooooooooooo CUBBYS!
:fluffle:
ANYONE BUT THE YANKS!!!!!
Gooooooooooooooooooo CUBBYS!
Shouldn't you be pulling for the Rockies? Seeing as they are going to destroy the Phillies.
Corneliu 2
05-10-2007, 18:48
Flubbies down 0-2. Gonna get swept out of the playoffs tomorrow. My family is going to be there as my Dad got free tickets since he works for Tribune Co.
Got to love Ted Lilly's glove throw.
http://www.gifninja.com/Workspace/88c20d7e-39a7-4c75-a07e-7f5beb88c4e1/output.gif
I'm going to be staying at school to watch us destroy tOSU.
Yea that was most definitely funny.
Flubbies down 0-2. Gonna get swept out of the playoffs tomorrow. My family is going to be there as my Dad got free tickets since he works for Tribune Co.
Got to love Ted Lilly's glove throw.
http://www.gifninja.com/Workspace/88c20d7e-39a7-4c75-a07e-7f5beb88c4e1/output.gif
I'm going to be staying at school to watch us destroy tOSU.
Keruvalia
05-10-2007, 18:55
If you don't like the term "World Series", call it the "Fall Classic" ... or grow a baseball team that can actually compete with the US (giggles uncontrollably).
Anyway, this is the year of the Sox. Boston will take it all the way!
GO SOX!
Andaluciae
05-10-2007, 19:27
I'm concerned that last night's crushing might have the negative impact of spawning overconfidence amongst the Indians, especially the hitters. Pettitte is good, real good, and overcoming his ability as a pitcher is going to be a hurdle. At least Carmona is up for us, he'll hopefully prove to be more brutal.
New Genoa
05-10-2007, 19:59
What does everyone think about Lebron James wearing a NYY cap at the game at Jacobs Field?
I'm concerned that last night's crushing might have the negative impact of spawning overconfidence amongst the Indians, especially the hitters. Pettitte is good, real good, and overcoming his ability as a pitcher is going to be a hurdle. At least Carmona is up for us, he'll hopefully prove to be more brutal.
Pettitte is the best pitcher the Yankee$ have going. He might have a chance to beat the Indians, but there is no way Clemens wins.
What does everyone think about Lebron James wearing a NYY cap at the game at Jacobs Field?
He isn't going to be get a warm reception next game.
Corneliu 2
06-10-2007, 01:47
Yankees and Indians are tied at 1 in the 10th inning.
New new nebraska
06-10-2007, 01:53
LETS GO YANKS!!They kinda got wooped last night 12-3,I believe it was the post that read"Indian Burned" but.......they're coming back.It's bottom of the tenth right now tied 1-1!*so much pressure*Man was I mad when the Indians tied it in the 8th. Although the Cubs deserve to win the series more than anyone. God bless 'em.
And man-oh-man did you see all thos bugs!There were hundreds.Still are but theres less.It was ridiculous!
New new nebraska
06-10-2007, 01:57
ANYONE BUT THE YANKS!!!!!
:DTROLL! TROLL! Kat is provoking IDF! Kat is trolling:D
anyways....yea the Yankees just dropped game 1 so that is good news.
*single tear falls down cheek*Well, it could be worse they could be the Mets who had aaa 7 game lead,won 13-0 the night before,and got destroyed by the Marlins of all teams,I mean c'mon!
New Genoa
06-10-2007, 02:14
Yankees and Indians are tied at 1 in the 10th inning.
And an excellent game at that. Carmona and Pettite pitched splendidly.
Corneliu 2
06-10-2007, 02:34
YANKEES LOSE! YANKEES LOSE!!!
Yankees lose 2-1 in 11 innings. Well done Cleveland.
*throws party*
The Yankees were doomed the instant they put Luis Vizcaino in the game. He was on the Sox in 2005 and fucking blew chunks.
We used to call him "Viz the fizz." Glad we traded him for Javy Vazquez.
Nefundland
06-10-2007, 02:40
WHOOP WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hafner for the base hit in 11!
2-1!!
King Arthur the Great
06-10-2007, 02:42
DAMN YOU CLEVELAND!!!!!!!!
WTF HAPPENNED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Corneliu 2
06-10-2007, 02:43
DAMN YOU CLEVELAND!!!!!!!!
WTF HAPPENNED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
A bases loaded 3-2 and 2 out pitch that was hit for a single in the bottomo of the 11th :D
With Clemens going next, the Yankees will be swept.
Cookesland
06-10-2007, 02:43
Phighting Phils phor the win!
Corneliu 2
06-10-2007, 02:45
Phighting Phils phor the win!
They're down 2-0 to the Rockies.
New Genoa
06-10-2007, 02:54
The Yankees were doomed the instant they put Luis Vizcaino in the game. He was on the Sox in 2005 and fucking blew chunks.
We used to call him "Viz the fizz." Glad we traded him for Javy Vazquez.
As a yankees fan, I had next to no faith once Vizcaino was in, merely due to the fact that anyone besides Joba or Mo in our bullpen is a piece of shit.
As a yankees fan, I had next to no faith once Vizcaino was in, merely due to the fact that anyone besides Joba or Mo in our bullpen is a piece of shit.
On top of that, the Indians have Vizcaino's number. They got 6 runs off of him in the 3rd game of the 2005 season. It was embarrassing to see him blow what had been a nice outing by Jose Contreras.
Nefundland
06-10-2007, 03:50
DAMN YOU CLEVELAND!!!!!!!!
WTF HAPPENNED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
finally, it's your team that sucks. :p
finally, it's your team that sucks. :p
You know something is wrong when both Sox have won more recently than uhhhh
best team Steinbrenner could buy:p
The South Islands
06-10-2007, 19:12
Wait, do any series have split games now?
There is a chance of straight sweeps in the Divisional Series. It's unlikely, but it would be neat.
Apologies to the late Chicago folk singer Steve Goodman, but this was just too good. I came across this on another site. I just hate the Cubs and that collapsing urinal they call their stadium.
Baseball season's underway
Well you better get ready for another old day.
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna Choke today.
They're singing ...
Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna Choke today.
Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna Choke today.
They got the rookies, they got the retards.
To be the worst in the National League
Well this aint the year and Cubs are sucky
So come on down to Big Ol’ Gay Bar!
We're singing now ...
Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna Choke today.
Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna Choke today.
Baseball time is back again
You can catch it all on Crapcast,
So bend your ass and cover your face
Chicago Cubs got the dumbest fans.
You're singing now ...
Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna Choke today.
Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna Choke today.
Fleckenstein
06-10-2007, 19:39
Fuckin Phils.
Andaluciae
06-10-2007, 19:55
So, I've got a question: What the hell are "midges" and how was Carmona so phenomenally unphased by them. I mean, he put in nine innings, that dude is a horse.
Wait, do any series have split games now?
No
All series have a team up 2-0 going into today.
And the Flubs get swept!
Everyone lets do this in unison!
Take us away Nancy
http://whitesoxinteractive.com//NaNaHeyHey.rm
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2001/jul/baseball/faust.jpg
NA NA, NA NA NA NA HEY HEY GOODBYE!
NA NA, NA NA NA NA HEY HEY GOODBYE!
(This has been a Sox tradition since 1977 when Nancy Faust began to serenade departing pitchers, HR balls, and the opposing team at the end of a game)
The South Islands
07-10-2007, 05:13
G'bye Cubs, won't miss ye much.
Oh, and you got pwnt today.
Sorry for the poor quality here, but I had to post this.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/domeshot17/sweeo.jpg
The South Islands
07-10-2007, 05:55
...and the rockies pull it off.
Unreal.
New Genoa
07-10-2007, 07:01
Rockies and D-Backs. Awesome. Gonna be pulling for the little team from Denver that could.
...I've hated the D-Backs since 01.
Todsboro
07-10-2007, 07:58
So, I've got a question: What the hell are "midges" and how was Carmona so phenomenally unphased by them. I mean, he put in nine innings, that dude is a horse.
Fausto's from the Dominican. The bugs there would eat Florida bugs for breakfast, let alone a Lake Erie Gnat.
Interesting quote from teammate Ryan Garko: (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2007/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=3051291)
The bugs were an equal opportunity annoyance, for sure. But Carmona, who had it just as bad as Chamberlain, was so focused he never stepped off the mound, much less paced or lost his concentration.
"I played in the Dominican Republic with [Carmona] last winter, and there were bugs 10 times that size flying around that field," Garko said. "Those bugs scared me to death. They were enormous.
"It just shows what kind of guy he is. It doesn't matter if it's raining, it's hot, it's cold or there are bugs. He just goes out there and pitches his heart out."
Anti-Social Darwinism
07-10-2007, 09:45
So, you think the Mets are pleased that they traded Matsui to the Rockies? *Laughs manically and uncontrollably.*:D
Kiryu-shi
07-10-2007, 09:52
So, you think the Mets are pleased that they traded Matsui to the Rockies? *Laughs manically and uncontrollably.*:D
Well, yeah. He was miserable in New York; he needed a change of scenery. If he were still on the Mets he wouldn't have been productive at all.
Anti-Social Darwinism
07-10-2007, 10:01
Well, yeah. He was miserable in New York; he needed a change of scenery. If he were still on the Mets he wouldn't have been productive at all.
Whatever else can be said, he's a solid player now. We like to call him "Kamikaze Kaz." - Not for the the suicide pilots of WWII but for the "Divine Wind" that was instrumental in saving Japan from invasion by China on a number of occasions.
Corneliu 2
07-10-2007, 19:35
If the Yankees lose, Torre done. Or so says the big man in the box.
If the Yankees lose, Torre done. Or so says the big man in the box.
I'm surprised Torre lasted as long as he has. Steinbrenner has no problem with firing winning managers. (Billy Martin anyone?)
King Arthur the Great
07-10-2007, 23:12
I'm surprised Torre lasted as long as he has. Steinbrenner has no problem with firing winning managers. (Billy Martin anyone?)
Personally, I could die peacefully if Torre goes and Steinbrenner leaves/is forced out.
Layarteb
07-10-2007, 23:40
Yep still rooting on the Yankees!
Myrmidonisia
08-10-2007, 12:21
You'll just see when I rush the field at Ross-Ade Stadium on Saturday.
So how enthusiastic was that rush? More like the "last mile" wasn't it?
Myrmidonisia
08-10-2007, 12:24
I'm surprised Torre lasted as long as he has. Steinbrenner has no problem with firing winning managers. (Billy Martin anyone?)
I admire Joe Torre. You gotta admit that Steinbrenner is quite a prize to make a statement like that. I figure Torre is probably looking forward to life without George...Although, I doubt he'd throw a game to get there.
And I think Billy Martin just got caught in the revolving door at the front office, as many times as he was hired and fired.
Gun Manufacturers
08-10-2007, 17:49
I admire Joe Torre. You gotta admit that Steinbrenner is quite a prize to make a statement like that. I figure Torre is probably looking forward to life without George...Although, I doubt he'd throw a game to get there.
And I think Billy Martin just got caught in the revolving door at the front office, as many times as he was hired and fired.
Billy and George didn't like each other though (at least, from what I've read/heard). Billy resented George's heavy handed meddling in the day to day managing of the team, and George hated Billy's stubbornness.
And here's to another Yankees win tonight, to tie the series. :D
King Arthur the Great
08-10-2007, 18:18
And here's to another Yankees win tonight, to tie the series. :D
Yanks for the win!!
Andaluciae
08-10-2007, 18:29
Coming into Yankees Stadium is difficult, especially during the post season when the fans are on their most ferocious, and the Yankees can hardly be expected to go down without a fight, but what I found irritating was the announcers acting like that home run being the moment that fundamentally altered the series, acting as if the Indians had already been defeated. That's such an odd thing to do.
Myrmidonisia
08-10-2007, 18:47
Coming into Yankees Stadium is difficult, especially during the post season when the fans are on their most ferocious, and the Yankees can hardly be expected to go down without a fight, but what I found irritating was the announcers acting like that home run being the moment that fundamentally altered the series, acting as if the Indians had already been defeated. That's such an odd thing to do.
Momentum does happen and I'd certainly call that HR a turning point for that game. It's just a little too early to write off the Tribe, though.
It's hard to find really good announcers and the ones that TBS kept on for the playoffs aren't the good ones that announce the Braves games all year.
If the Yankees lose, Torre done. Or so says the big man in the box.
I think he just said that to get the Yankees going (and it worked), because I can't see anyone else managing the Yankees at the moment, regardless of the result.
Andaluciae
09-10-2007, 01:55
Byrd got himself out of a mighty tight spot there, he's certainly the type to figure out how to extricate himself from that sort of spot.
Kiryu-shi
09-10-2007, 01:57
Byrd got himself out of a mighty tight spot there, he's certainly the type to figure out how to extricate himself from that sort of spot.
You think Torre pulled out Wang too quickly?
Andaluciae
09-10-2007, 02:19
You think Torre pulled out Wang too quickly?
Definitely. If I were Torre I'd have kept Wang in for at least two more innings. The man was dealing with early game jitters, and I'd have thought that he'd be likely to settle down soon. I mean, it's not like Mussina's been perfect, he just gave the Indians a ground-rule double.
New new nebraska
09-10-2007, 02:25
If the Yankees lose, Torre done. Or so says the big man in the box.
Well than he is a complete and utter idiot.I heard that but honostly is he gonna fire the winningest manager in baseball.Joe's a cool guy and hey when you break it down sure he can tell the players what to do but in the end it all comes down to the players.Its unfair to fire him for there mistakes.He's done well with the Yanks.Just look at these stats.
Team Year Regular Season Postseason
Won Lost Win % Finish Won Lost Win % Result
NYY 1996 92 70 .568 1st in AL East 11 4 .733 Won World Series
NYY 1997 96 66 .593 2nd in AL East 2 3 .400 Lost in ALDS
NYY 1998 114 48 .704 1st in AL East 11 2 .846 Won World Series
NYY 1999 98 64 .605 1st in AL East 11 1 .917 Won World Series
NYY 2000 87 74 .540 1st in AL East 11 5 .688 Won World Series
NYY 2001 95 65 .594 1st in AL East 10 7 .588 Lost in World Series
NYY 2002 103 58 .640 1st in AL East 1 3 .250 Lost in ALDS
NYY 2003 101 61 .623 1st in AL East 9 8 .529 Lost in World Series
NYY 2004 101 61 .623 1st in AL East 6 5 .545 Lost in ALCS
NYY 2005 95 67 .586 1st in AL East 2 3 .400 Lost in ALDS
NYY 2006 97 65 .599 1st in AL East 1 3 .250 Lost in ALDS
Kiryu-shi
09-10-2007, 02:35
Definitely. If I were Torre I'd have kept Wang in for at least two more innings. The man was dealing with early game jitters, and I'd have thought that he'd be likely to settle down soon. I mean, it's not like Mussina's been perfect, he just gave the Indians a ground-rule double.
6-1! :D Not perfect at all...
Kiryu-shi
09-10-2007, 02:37
Yes-in the end it does come down to the players. Joe Torre has had the best players in baseball, arguably, his whole Yankee career. He is not a great manager; but he has had great success.
Andaluciae
09-10-2007, 02:42
6-1! :D Not perfect at all...
Yeah, now Mussina's given up just as many runs as Wang, while at the exact same time Byrd's putting the Yankee's hitters on ice.
Although, Mussina's seemingly picked himself up right now in the top of the fifth.
Kiryu-shi
09-10-2007, 02:42
Yeah, now Mussina's given up just as many runs as Wang, while at the exact same time Byrd's putting the Yankee's hitters on ice.
I love it.
Wait, I think Wang was charged with four runs?
Andaluciae
09-10-2007, 02:48
I love it.
Wait, I think Wang was charged with four runs?
Yeah, I just checked SI, he was charged with 4 runs.
So, yeah, I'm hoping that Mussina will be charged with as many, if not more, than four runs.
Kiryu-shi
09-10-2007, 02:52
Yeah, I just checked SI, he was charged with 4 runs.
So, yeah, I'm hoping that Mussina will be charged with as many, if not more, than four runs.
:D :p
Andaluciae
09-10-2007, 03:00
:D :p
Oooh. Torre pulled Mussina, that was rash. Real rash. He was just starting to get good and comfortable.
Torre is not doing a good job tonight...not that I'm complaining.
Layarteb
09-10-2007, 04:02
Still rooting on the Yankees even though it's 6 - 3. And as far as Joe Torre is concerned? He shouldn't be just kicked to the curb, he gave the Yankees an impressive run and is one of the better managers in history but I do think his era is over and that he should retire. Then let's see what Girardi can do and, one day, Mattingly!
New Stalinberg
09-10-2007, 04:13
Ugh... fuckin' Diamondbacks.
99 YEARS! GIVE US A FUCKING CHANCE!
In other news, fuck the Yankees.
Layarteb
09-10-2007, 04:13
Ugh... fuckin' Diamondbacks.
99 YEARS! GIVE US A FUCKING CHANCE!
In other news, fuck the Yankees.
Wow something original. Another Yankees hater...Let me guess, payroll, titles, fans, or do you have some reason I haven't heard before.
Kiryu-shi
09-10-2007, 04:15
Wow something original. Another Yankees hater...Let me guess, payroll, titles, fans, or do you have some reason I haven't heard before.
Didn't you see my list?!
Kiryu-shi
09-10-2007, 04:42
*cheers*
Corneliu 2
09-10-2007, 04:43
It's Over! It's Over! Indians Win! Indians Win!!
Ooooohhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! Indians Win!!!!!!!!
*Throws party*
Corneliu 2
09-10-2007, 04:44
Well than he is a complete and utter idiot.I heard that but honostly is he gonna fire the winningest manager in baseball.Joe's a cool guy and hey when you break it down sure he can tell the players what to do but in the end it all comes down to the players.Its unfair to fire him for there mistakes.He's done well with the Yanks.Just look at these stats.
Team Year Regular Season Postseason
Won Lost Win % Finish Won Lost Win % Result
NYY 1996 92 70 .568 1st in AL East 11 4 .733 Won World Series
NYY 1997 96 66 .593 2nd in AL East 2 3 .400 Lost in ALDS
NYY 1998 114 48 .704 1st in AL East 11 2 .846 Won World Series
NYY 1999 98 64 .605 1st in AL East 11 1 .917 Won World Series
NYY 2000 87 74 .540 1st in AL East 11 5 .688 Won World Series
NYY 2001 95 65 .594 1st in AL East 10 7 .588 Lost in World Series
NYY 2002 103 58 .640 1st in AL East 1 3 .250 Lost in ALDS
NYY 2003 101 61 .623 1st in AL East 9 8 .529 Lost in World Series
NYY 2004 101 61 .623 1st in AL East 6 5 .545 Lost in ALCS
NYY 2005 95 67 .586 1st in AL East 2 3 .400 Lost in ALDS
NYY 2006 97 65 .599 1st in AL East 1 3 .250 Lost in ALDS
Since when has that stopped the big man. I mean....we'll soon see what happens. 3-1 says he's done.
Kiryu-shi
09-10-2007, 04:47
It's Over! It's Over! Indians Win! Indians Win!!
Ooooohhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! Indians Win!!!!!!!!
*Throws party*
*parties*
Kiryu-shi
09-10-2007, 04:49
Also, check those numbers.. the yankees had a 250 winning percentage one year?
Corneliu 2
09-10-2007, 04:50
Also, check those numbers.. the yankees had a 250 winning percentage one year?
um yea...ok? :confused:
Andaluciae
09-10-2007, 04:50
Wow something original. Another Yankees hater...Let me guess, payroll, titles, fans, or do you have some reason I haven't heard before.
How about the bizarre, unreasonable expectations? I mean, whenever Yankees don't win the World Series the ensuing witch hunts are phenomenally lame. I mean, it's like some fans think the Yankees are the only team that deserves to win the Series. Like there's a divine right, simply because the Yankees are the Yankees.
Or perhaps the non-NYC fans. NYC residents I fully expect to be Yankees fans, it's your hometeam. I'd never begrudge a town that right. It's when people who wear Yankees gear only because 50 cent wears a Yankees hat. Or because that dumb ho Paris Hilton wears Yankees gear. It's pretty lame. Why not support your home team, and not a team that's thousands of miles away?
Kiryu-shi
09-10-2007, 04:52
Or perhaps the non-NYC fans. NYC residents I fully expect to be Yankees fans, it's your hometeam.
METS
Andaluciae
09-10-2007, 04:52
Also, check those numbers.. the yankees had a 250 winning percentage one year?
Someone forgot how to subtract :p
Kiryu-shi
09-10-2007, 04:54
Someone forgot how to subtract :p
Wait... were those playoff numbers?
Andaluciae
09-10-2007, 04:55
METS
I should have been more specific, if you're from the Bronx or Manhattan, you're a Yankees fan, if you're from Brooklyn or Queens, you should be a Mets fan. If you're from Staten Island, you should light things on fire.
Andaluciae
09-10-2007, 04:57
Wait... were those playoff numbers?
The .250 is a playoff number, it looks like. There's regular season numbers as well on that chart.
Kiryu-shi
09-10-2007, 04:58
The .250 is a playoff number, it looks like. There's regular season numbers as well on that chart.
Yeah, okay, I see now. Well, I guess they got another .250. :)
Gun Manufacturers
09-10-2007, 05:08
As a Yankees fan, I must congratulate the Cleveland Indians for their win in the ALDS. I can only hope now that the Indians win the World Series, since then the Yankees will have lost the ALDS to the eventual champions.
How about the bizarre, unreasonable expectations? I mean, whenever Yankees don't win the World Series the ensuing witch hunts are phenomenally lame. I mean, it's like some fans think the Yankees are the only team that deserves to win the Series. Like there's a divine right, simply because the Yankees are the Yankees.
Or perhaps the non-NYC fans. NYC residents I fully expect to be Yankees fans, it's your hometeam. I'd never begrudge a town that right. It's when people who wear Yankees gear only because 50 cent wears a Yankees hat. Or because that dumb ho Paris Hilton wears Yankees gear. It's pretty lame. Why not support your home team, and not a team that's thousands of miles away?
I'm a non-NYC fan. I've been a Yankees fan since I was a kid (I was born and raised in CT). Part of that reason is my parents and older sister were fans (my parents don't really have time to follow baseball anymore, and my sister has her kids to take to their sporting events), but the other part is I always watched the Yankees on channel 11 out of NY. I remember crying in 1979 when Thurman Munson was killed in that plane crash. I remember Dave "I can't hang onto my bat" Winfield. I remember dressing up one year as a Yankee for halloween (in fact, my parents have a polaroid picture of that).
We were spared a Yankees-Red Sox ALDS and the 24/7 media that woulda surrounded it. I'm happy.
King Arthur the Great
09-10-2007, 05:10
F@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@CK!!!!!!
I HATE CLEVELAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gun Manufacturers
09-10-2007, 05:16
We were spared a Yankees-Red Sox ALCS and the 24/7 media that woulda surrounded it. I'm happy.
Fixed for accuracy.
But in all honesty, that would have been a good series (the Yankees/Red Sox in the postseason usually is).
Yankee's fans are the sole reason I hate people from the west side of the Connecticut River. They're such dicks, and there so full of themselves. Or, perhaps because they're dicks, and they are my personification of Yankee's fans, Western Connecticut is the sole reason I hate Yankee's fans.
Anyways, what I'm trying to say is BRING BACK THE WHALERS!
It's the only thing that brought us together. :(
Here's my take on the Yankees' loss- the Cleveland pitching was amazing, but the Indians were better at hitting- they hit better with two outs and they were better at playing small ball, simply because the Yankees just don't play small ball. I don't blame New York for not playing small ball (that lineup is great) but I think it might have helped, especially given what the Indians' pitching staff was giving them.
Gun Manufacturers
09-10-2007, 12:05
Yankee's fans are the sole reason I hate people from the west side of the Connecticut River. They're such dicks, and there so full of themselves. Or, perhaps because they're dicks, and they are my personification of Yankee's fans, Western Connecticut is the sole reason I hate Yankee's fans.
Anyways, what I'm trying to say is BRING BACK THE WHALERS!
It's the only thing that brought us together. :(
Really? I'm a nice guy, and I was originally from the west side of CT (Shelton, specifically). I've never been a dick about baseball, nor am I full of myself. I have found however, that Red Sox fans can be as bad as people claim Yankees fans are (and yet, nobody complains about Red Sox fans).
And they can't bring back the Whalers. They left for a reason, and there's also the matter of them having torn down the New Haven Coliseum.
Gun Manufacturers
09-10-2007, 12:06
Here's my take on the Yankees' loss- the Cleveland pitching was amazing, but the Indians were better at hitting- they hit better with two outs and they were better at playing small ball, simply because the Yankees just don't play small ball. I don't blame New York for not playing small ball (that lineup is great) but I think it might have helped, especially given what the Indians' pitching staff was giving them.
The Yankees did play some small ball, but I agree that they could have done more of it.
Corneliu 2
09-10-2007, 12:41
F@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@CK!!!!!!
I HATE CLEVELAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now tell us how you really feel :D
Myrmidonisia
09-10-2007, 12:44
Okay, the Yankees are suffering from the same sort of complacency that we see in Atlanta all the time. They're done.
Now we've got the Bosox and Tribe to watch. The Sox have slightly better stats over the last month coming into the ALCS, but the Indians have the momentum. My bet is that the Indians make a good start -- 2-0, but end up losing in a 7 game series.
Honestly, I don't even care which NL team makes it to the series -- the Sox have it.
Corneliu 2
09-10-2007, 15:36
IDK Myrm. The way the rockies are playing? They could take it.
Myrmidonisia
09-10-2007, 16:05
IDK Myrm. The way the rockies are playing? They could take it.
They always could. But short series are misleading... Look at the Indians, they just whipped the team with the best record in the AL since the All-Star game. Could they have done that in 7 games? Beats me.
I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ALCS. And just hope that the games aren't as long as the one last night. Four hours is way too long.
Andaluciae
09-10-2007, 17:14
I'm a non-NYC fan. I've been a Yankees fan since I was a kid (I was born and raised in CT). Part of that reason is my parents and older sister were fans (my parents don't really have time to follow baseball anymore, and my sister has her kids to take to their sporting events), but the other part is I always watched the Yankees on channel 11 out of NY. I remember crying in 1979 when Thurman Munson was killed in that plane crash. I remember Dave "I can't hang onto my bat" Winfield. I remember dressing up one year as a Yankee for halloween (in fact, my parents have a polaroid picture of that).
I dunno, the argument could easily be made that your home team is the Yankees, knowing how geographically close CT is to NYC. It's people from, like, Peoria, who don't care about baseball, they merely wear Yankees caps without a properly adjusted brim and the stickers still on it. And, especially if you've got a family heritage of being fans. And, anyways, it could be worse, you could be a BoSox fan.
As a side note, Thurman Munson's plane went down in my hometown. Our old minor league park is named for him, even though it used to be the home for an Indians farm team.
Really? I'm a nice guy, and I was originally from the west side of CT (Shelton, specifically). I've never been a dick about baseball, nor am I full of myself. I have found however, that Red Sox fans can be as bad as people claim Yankees fans are (and yet, nobody complains about Red Sox fans).
And they can't bring back the Whalers. They left for a reason, and there's also the matter of them having torn down the New Haven Coliseum.
Don't worry, I'm just stereotyping. I bet there are plenty of people who say similar things about Eastern Connecticut.
And yes, they can bring back the Whalers. I don't care how impossible it is :D.
Actually, the owner of the Penguins tried to bring the Whalers to Hartford recently. Unfortunately Pittsburgh got a new stadium instead.
New Genoa
09-10-2007, 22:16
Or perhaps the non-NYC fans. NYC residents I fully expect to be Yankees fans, it's your hometeam. I'd never begrudge a town that right. It's when people who wear Yankees gear only because 50 cent wears a Yankees hat. Or because that dumb ho Paris Hilton wears Yankees gear. It's pretty lame. Why not support your home team, and not a team that's thousands of miles away?
There's no team in Connecticut. In any league. :(
The yankees and NY rangers happen to be the only teams I support that are geographically close. Basketball -- it's the Hornets...football it's the Packers.
weird, am I right?
Krissland
09-10-2007, 23:25
Really? I'm a nice guy, and I was originally from the west side of CT (Shelton, specifically). I've never been a dick about baseball, nor am I full of myself. I have found however, that Red Sox fans can be as bad as people claim Yankees fans are (and yet, nobody complains about Red Sox fans).
One point. I have never once heard or seen a Sox fan boo their own players. Yet I have seen yankees fans do that exact thing at a game. I'm not sure what you mean by there as bad as yankees fans because as a Red Sox fan I see, win or lose, fans who are proud of their team. People complain about the yankees and their fans because the team is full of arrogant (and mildly juiced) asses. So of course the fans will be hated just as much as the team because people won't differentiate between the two.
Corneliu 2
10-10-2007, 02:42
There's no team in Connecticut. In any league. :(
I thought Connecticut had a WNBA team? :confused:
The yankees and NY rangers happen to be the only teams I support that are geographically close. Basketball -- it's the Hornets...football it's the Packers.
weird, am I right?
yep.
New Limacon
10-10-2007, 02:43
May I be the first to post the obligatory question, World Series?!?!
I know this has already been answered, but I would like to add something: the World Series is between the American League and the National League. You can't call it the "American Series" because that name is taken, nor can you call it the "National Series." "North American Series" would work, and would actually be more accurate, because it includes Canada, but it sounds silly. So, what do you call a competitions between America and the nation? World Series.
New Genoa
10-10-2007, 02:44
I thought Connecticut had a WNBA team? :confused:
WNBA don't count.
*Dont hit me, women*
Layarteb
10-10-2007, 02:59
:: still rooting on the Yankees ::
Corneliu 2
10-10-2007, 03:03
WNBA don't count.
*Dont hit me, women*
*is not a woman but hits you anyway*
I may not like the WNBA (hell I HATE the NBA) but it is still a professional sport.
Layarteb
10-10-2007, 03:03
*looks at the next round*
Sorry but they're done. Hopefully for a long time.
That's alright. I'm not too bummed out by the loss. Unfortunately, I find no other suitable team to root for in the rest of the playoffs so Go Manchester United!
Corneliu 2
10-10-2007, 03:06
:: still rooting on the Yankees ::
*looks at the next round*
Sorry but they're done. Hopefully for a long time.
Gun Manufacturers
10-10-2007, 03:08
Don't worry, I'm just stereotyping. I bet there are plenty of people who say similar things about Eastern Connecticut.
Crap, I live in southeast Connecticut now. I can't win for losing. :(
;)
And yes, they can bring back the Whalers. I don't care how impossible it is :D.
Actually, the owner of the Penguins tried to bring the Whalers to Hartford recently. Unfortunately Pittsburgh got a new stadium instead.
I didn't know that about the Penguins. But then again, I've only been to one game (the New Haven Whalers vs. the New Jersey Devils, IIRC) back when I was a kid, and I don't really follow hockey anyways.
Gun Manufacturers
10-10-2007, 03:09
There's no team in Connecticut. In any league. :(
The yankees and NY rangers happen to be the only teams I support that are geographically close. Basketball -- it's the Hornets...football it's the Packers.
weird, am I right?
Actually, there is a WNBA team in CT (the CT Sun, owned by my former employers, Mohegan Sun).
Callisdrun
10-10-2007, 03:14
I'm probably cheating a little given that I already know that Boston beat California (I refuse to call them "Los Angeles")
Please don't call them that. They are not my baseball team. There are four other baseball teams in California, all but one of which I like a hell of a lot better than the Los Angeles Angels (seriously, where do you think they got the name?).
Gun Manufacturers
10-10-2007, 03:31
One point. I have never once heard or seen a Sox fan boo their own players. Yet I have seen yankees fans do that exact thing at a game. I'm not sure what you mean by there as bad as yankees fans because as a Red Sox fan I see, win or lose, fans who are proud of their team. People complain about the yankees and their fans because the team is full of arrogant (and mildly juiced) asses. So of course the fans will be hated just as much as the team because people won't differentiate between the two.
I don't understand a fan booing someone from their own team. I know I don't do that. The fans that do that take things WAY too seriously. And I have heard Red Sox fans booing and talking badly about Sox players (having to listen to "J.D. Drew sucks, he's worthless" and other things about other Sox players from Sox fans all day at work really gets old quick).
As far as seeing Sox fans as bad as they claim Yankees fans are, I've been threatened with physical violence by a former co-worker (that is a Sox fan) after the 2003 ALCS. I've been harassed by other Sox fans (that I didn't even know) at a bowling alley, simply for having a Yankees hat on (having stuff thrown at me while I was there, one of them intentionally knocking my soda over, etc). What's worse, and what REALLY pisses me off, is when a Sox fan wishes bad things to happen to Yankees players (one of my co-workers said he hopes the Yankees plane crashes one day, and another wishes season or career ending injuries on many of the Yankees players).
BTW, only one active player on the Yankees team has admitted to or gotten caught for juicing since they began testing /penalizing for it. That's Jason Giambi. Baltimore has had more people involved with the juicing scandal than the Yankees.
Finally, some of my friends are Sox fans. Just because I don't like the Sox, doesn't mean I can't differentiate between the team and my friends.
Corneliu 2
10-10-2007, 03:32
Please don't call them that. They are not my baseball team. There are four other baseball teams in California, all but one of which I like a hell of a lot better than the Los Angeles Angels (seriously, where do you think they got the name?).
Funny...they still play in oh....ANAHIEM!!!!
Callisdrun
10-10-2007, 03:42
Funny...they still play in oh....ANAHIEM!!!!
So call them Anaheim. Might as well be LA, you seem to be under the illusion that the two are separated by some vast distance. They do not play in LA proper, yes.
But they are not California's team. In fact, there are only a couple teams I hate more than them, and one of those is also based in the LA area.
Kiryu-shi
10-10-2007, 03:43
They are anaheim. They are the Los Angeles Angles of Anaheim. Duh.
Corneliu 2
10-10-2007, 03:46
So call them Anaheim. Might as well be LA, you seem to be under the illusion that the two are separated by some vast distance. They do not play in LA proper, yes.
But they are not California's team. In fact, there are only a couple teams I hate more than them, and one of those is also based in the LA area.
As in the LA Dodgers? Let me guess. You also hate the Oakland A's to right?
Corneliu 2
10-10-2007, 03:48
They are anaheim. They are the Los Angeles Angles of Anaheim. Duh.
BINGO!!
Kiryu-shi
10-10-2007, 03:48
BINGO!!
What did I win?! Can I have a Johan Santana?
Krissland
10-10-2007, 04:36
I don't understand a fan booing someone from their own team. I know I don't do that. The fans that do that take things WAY too seriously. And I have heard Red Sox fans booing and talking badly about Sox players (having to listen to "J.D. Drew sucks, he's worthless" and other things about other Sox players from Sox fans all day at work really gets old quick).
As far as seeing Sox fans as bad as they claim Yankees fans are, I've been threatened with physical violence by a former co-worker (that is a Sox fan) after the 2003 ALCS. I've been harassed by other Sox fans (that I didn't even know) at a bowling alley, simply for having a Yankees hat on (having stuff thrown at me while I was there, one of them intentionally knocking my soda over, etc). What's worse, and what REALLY pisses me off, is when a Sox fan wishes bad things to happen to Yankees players (one of my co-workers said he hopes the Yankees plane crashes one day, and another wishes season or career ending injuries on many of the Yankees players).
BTW, only one active player on the Yankees team has admitted to or gotten caught for juicing since they began testing /penalizing for it. That's Jason Giambi. Baltimore has had more people involved with the juicing scandal than the Yankees.
Finally, some of my friends are Sox fans. Just because I don't like the Sox, doesn't mean I can't differentiate between the team and my friends.
Yea, Gary Sheffield never touched the stuff. But he is a former yankee so I guess it's different lol. And dude, if you were threatened with physical violence then that wasn't about baseball. That was about somebody being psychotic. And that wishing bad things is not limited to Sox fans, come on. Everyone has a rival. Like there are no yankees fans that ever wished David Ortiz would break his arm. I bet there were a lot of them in 2004.
Gun Manufacturers
10-10-2007, 05:21
Yea, Gary Sheffield never touched the stuff. But he is a former yankee so I guess it's different lol. And dude, if you were threatened with physical violence then that wasn't about baseball. That was about somebody being psychotic. And that wishing bad things is not limited to Sox fans, come on. Everyone has a rival. Like there are no yankees fans that ever wished David Ortiz would break his arm. I bet there were a lot of them in 2004.
Gary Sheffield isn't an active Yankee (he's with Detroit). He's also never publicly admitted to juicing (the grand jury testimony was SUPPOSED to be sealed), and never gotten caught by MLB for violating the policy.
I was threatened about 10 minutes after Aaron Boone hit the walk-off home run, by a Sox fan, BECAUSE of Aaron Boone's home run.
I realize that wishing bad things would happen isn't limited to Sox fans. But some of them take it to the next level as far as the Yankees are concerned. Wishing for a sprained ankle or a pulled hamstring is one thing, wishing that the Yankees would be killed in a plane crash, or wishing they'd have a season/career ending injury is entirely different (especially considering the Yankees have already lost 2 players to plane crashes). Both are wrong, but the former is a lot worse.
And I was just hoping Ortiz would go on a sudden hitless streak during the 2004 ALCS, but I don't wish injury on anyone, regardless of the team they play for.
Layarteb
10-10-2007, 05:37
As in the LA Dodgers? Let me guess. You also hate the Oakland A's to right?
Should be the Brooklyn Dodgers :).
Corneliu 2
10-10-2007, 12:28
Should be the Brooklyn Dodgers :).
LMAO!! Now that's true.
Please don't call them that. They are not my baseball team. There are four other baseball teams in California, all but one of which I like a hell of a lot better than the Los Angeles Angels (seriously, where do you think they got the name?).
That's not the angle I'm trying to pursue- I'm a stickler for teams keeping their identity intact, which includes things like their colours, the logo and the name, because the fans deserve no less. I mean, I don't think Yankee fans would want their team to become the "Bronx Yankees" or the "New York Batters" or something like that- they identify the team as being the "New York Yankees" and nothing else. For much of the Angels' history (and how they were called when I started watching baseball (1993)), they were the California Angels, not the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, so that's how I identified them (I may be a Jays fan but I had a soft spot for the Angels way back when). I understand now that "Los Angeles Angels" predates "California Angels" considerably, but the team shouldn't be "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim"- that name just seems confused. Either they're the California Angels, the Anaheim Angels or the Los Angeles Angels- not the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim", because that just doesn't make much sense.
The Yankees did play some small ball, but I agree that they could have done more of it.
Maybe I missed the specific incident (I didn't watch every game as I tried to watch every series), but I never did see any Yankee laying down a bunt or stealing a base. They all wanted that game-changing home-run or hit and while I understand they've got the talent to approach at-bats in that way their inability to put away their egos (let's face it, always going for the "big hit" *is* ego-driven) and chip away at an Indians pitching staff that just wouldn't give any pitches to hit is what cost them. Granted, the Yankee pitching staff also wasn't that great (outside of Andy Pettitte), but the Indians' willingness to play small ball allowed them to pad their leads and if the Yankees did the same the scores might have at least been closer. Some of those players were trying to think they could get three runs in one swing with no one on base and that just can't happen- hence why I think that thinking is what cost them.
As far as Joe Torre's concerned, he's done so much for the team that I can't see anyone else running the Yankees, but maybe a change is needed. I know "2000" isn't exactly a long drought compared to what the Cubs (and, until recently, the Red Sox) had to go through, but it's still pretty long and for a team to make the playoffs every year and do nothing does tell me that change might be in order. I still think George Stienbrenner made that proclaimation to get his team going (and not because he actually intended to fire Torre) but we'll see.
Gun Manufacturers
11-10-2007, 16:09
Maybe I missed the specific incident (I didn't watch every game as I tried to watch every series), but I never did see any Yankee laying down a bunt or stealing a base. They all wanted that game-changing home-run or hit and while I understand they've got the talent to approach at-bats in that way their inability to put away their egos (let's face it, always going for the "big hit" *is* ego-driven) and chip away at an Indians pitching staff that just wouldn't give any pitches to hit is what cost them. Granted, the Yankee pitching staff also wasn't that great (outside of Andy Pettitte), but the Indians' willingness to play small ball allowed them to pad their leads and if the Yankees did the same the scores might have at least been closer. Some of those players were trying to think they could get three runs in one swing with no one on base and that just can't happen- hence why I think that thinking is what cost them.
As far as Joe Torre's concerned, he's done so much for the team that I can't see anyone else running the Yankees, but maybe a change is needed. I know "2000" isn't exactly a long drought compared to what the Cubs (and, until recently, the Red Sox) had to go through, but it's still pretty long and for a team to make the playoffs every year and do nothing does tell me that change might be in order. I still think George Stienbrenner made that proclaimation to get his team going (and not because he actually intended to fire Torre) but we'll see.
IIRC, Melky Cabrera and Doug Mientkiewicz bunted (or at least, tried to) with guys on base, trying to move them over.
As to the Torre situation, I don't think he should go. Honestly, if any non-player is to blame for this season, it would be Cashman (although to be honest, he's only had this year to run the team without interference from Tampa).
Anti-Social Darwinism
12-10-2007, 15:53
Rockies -5
Snakes -1
Diamondback Fans - 0
Go Rockies.
IIRC, Melky Cabrera and Doug Mientkiewicz bunted (or at least, tried to) with guys on base, trying to move them over.
Maybe I missed it when it happened, but I certainly didn't see it in Game 4 even when they were down 6-2. If they did, they probably would have gotten more runs against Paul Byrd, who didn't offer many good-contact pitches.
As to the Torre situation, I don't think he should go. Honestly, if any non-player is to blame for this season, it would be Cashman (although to be honest, he's only had this year to run the team without interference from Tampa).
For me, what works in Brian Cashman's favour is the likes of Cabrera, Shelly Duncan, Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain- good, quality youngsters who came out of the Yankees' organization (okay, Duncan's 28 but he was a rookie this year). There seems to be a plan for the first time in almost a decade and I think Cashman deserves to see that out. I don't think Torre should be fired either, but after 12 years and the Yankees moving in a (somewhat) different direction, it may be time for a change at the managerial helm.
Layarteb
13-10-2007, 04:15
That's not the angle I'm trying to pursue- I'm a stickler for teams keeping their identity intact, which includes things like their colours, the logo and the name, because the fans deserve no less. I mean, I don't think Yankee fans would want their team to become the "Bronx Yankees" or the "New York Batters" or something like that- they identify the team as being the "New York Yankees" and nothing else. For much of the Angels' history (and how they were called when I started watching baseball (1993)), they were the California Angels, not the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, so that's how I identified them (I may be a Jays fan but I had a soft spot for the Angels way back when). I understand now that "Los Angeles Angels" predates "California Angels" considerably, but the team shouldn't be "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim"- that name just seems confused. Either they're the California Angels, the Anaheim Angels or the Los Angeles Angels- not the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim", because that just doesn't make much sense.
Maybe I missed the specific incident (I didn't watch every game as I tried to watch every series), but I never did see any Yankee laying down a bunt or stealing a base. They all wanted that game-changing home-run or hit and while I understand they've got the talent to approach at-bats in that way their inability to put away their egos (let's face it, always going for the "big hit" *is* ego-driven) and chip away at an Indians pitching staff that just wouldn't give any pitches to hit is what cost them. Granted, the Yankee pitching staff also wasn't that great (outside of Andy Pettitte), but the Indians' willingness to play small ball allowed them to pad their leads and if the Yankees did the same the scores might have at least been closer. Some of those players were trying to think they could get three runs in one swing with no one on base and that just can't happen- hence why I think that thinking is what cost them.
As far as Joe Torre's concerned, he's done so much for the team that I can't see anyone else running the Yankees, but maybe a change is needed. I know "2000" isn't exactly a long drought compared to what the Cubs (and, until recently, the Red Sox) had to go through, but it's still pretty long and for a team to make the playoffs every year and do nothing does tell me that change might be in order. I still think George Stienbrenner made that proclaimation to get his team going (and not because he actually intended to fire Torre) but we'll see.
Should they ever choose to change the name of the Yankees it would make the race riots look like nothing. Torre's been one of the best managers in history but I think he should retire and hand the reins over to Girardi and eventually Mattingly. He's done well, he's given us so much (4 championships, 6 pennants, 12 years of post season berths).
Anti-Social Darwinism
13-10-2007, 08:11
Rockies - 2
Diamondbacks - 1
We need just two more wins and we're going to the Series.
Go Rockies!
Corneliu 2
13-10-2007, 13:26
Should they ever choose to change the name of the Yankees it would make the race riots look like nothing. Torre's been one of the best managers in history but I think he should retire and hand the reins over to Girardi and eventually Mattingly. He's done well, he's given us so much (4 championships, 6 pennants, 12 years of post season berths).
13 years of post season berths actually :D
Corneliu 2
13-10-2007, 13:30
Red Sox 10
Indians 3
Boston leads series 1-0
Rocies 3
D'backs 2 in 10 innings
Colorado leads series 2-0
Gun Manufacturers
13-10-2007, 21:14
Red Sox 10
Indians 3
Boston leads series 1-0
Rockies 3
D'backs 2 in 10 innings
Colorado leads series 2-0
Fixed for team accuracy
Corneliu 2
13-10-2007, 23:58
Fixed for team accuracy
GAH!!! Never post when one has not have a cup of coffee :D
Katganistan
14-10-2007, 00:46
It won't be the Yankees!
Corneliu 2
14-10-2007, 00:54
It won't be the Yankees!
Thank God!
imported_NightHawk
14-10-2007, 01:00
And it wont be the Scrubs...uh...Cubs either. Go Rockies!
(Trash Talking of the Scrubs is required for this STL Cardinals fan)
New Manvir
14-10-2007, 01:03
The Springfield Isotopes...
...or the Red Sox
New new nebraska
14-10-2007, 03:04
It won't be the Yankees!
Judging by your location I'm guessing you're a mets fan.(could be some other team but within New York....)Well the 7 hasn't been runnin' to well lately.
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Funny little sidenote~They sell the subway signs for the stadiums up in the Hall of Fame.I got teh Yanks one.
Corneliu 2
14-10-2007, 03:49
Boston 6
Cleveland 5
LETS GO RED SOX!!!!
Gun Manufacturers
14-10-2007, 04:18
Boston 6
Cleveland 5
LETS GO RED SOX!!!!
It's tied 6-6, going into the start of the 7th inning.
BTW, in this series, I'm rooting for Cleveland.
Layarteb
14-10-2007, 04:44
13 years of post season berths actually :D
Torre was not the manager in 1995 so he has only given us 12 of the last 13 playoff berths, 4 WS titles in 6 attempts though, which is an amazing record.
It won't be the Yankees!
Well. If all of the other teams somehow got eliminated, as in dead, then they would ahve to go to the 5th place team, which would be the Yankees :).
Krissland
14-10-2007, 06:15
It won't be the Yankees!
Maybe their contract with the devil expired ;)
Gun Manufacturers
14-10-2007, 06:24
Cleveland 9
Boston 6
in the top of the 11th, with only 1 out and 2 runners on. Go Cleveland! :)
Gun Manufacturers
14-10-2007, 06:24
Maybe their contract with the devil expired ;)
:rolleyes:
Krissland
14-10-2007, 06:25
:rolleyes:
:D
Katganistan
14-10-2007, 06:31
Judging by your location I'm guessing you're a mets fan.
Now why would you say that? ;)
Seriously, after years of having Yankees fans being smug, arrogant bastards, it's fun to welcome them to NOT being in post season play.
Gun Manufacturers
14-10-2007, 06:31
:D
Are you still smiling now? In the middle of the 11th, it's 13-6 Cleveland.
:D
Krissland
14-10-2007, 06:36
Are you still smiling now? In the middle of the 11th, it's 13-6 Cleveland.
:D
Actually I am. With yankmees already dead in the water it's nice to have a challenge. And it looks like Cleveland is going to provide that. The Red Sox will take it in the end but at least it will be interesting to watch :p
Gun Manufacturers
14-10-2007, 06:41
Actually I am. With yankmees already dead in the water it's nice to have a challenge. And it looks like Cleveland is going to provide that. The Red Sox will take it in the end but at least it will be interesting to watch :p
I wouldn't underestimate the Indians. They've already shown in this postseason they can hang with the heavy hitters.
And you spelled Yankees wrong. :rolleyes:
Krissland
14-10-2007, 06:49
I wouldn't underestimate the Indians. They've already shown in this postseason they can hang with the heavy hitters.
And you spelled Yankees wrong. :rolleyes:
:confused: Yankmee wasn't a misspelling. It was a deliberate play on words. And I'm not underestimating the Indians, if they weren't a good team this year then they wouldn't have made it this far. Only the best teams make it so they must be a good.
Layarteb
15-10-2007, 00:25
Now why would you say that? ;)
Seriously, after years of having Yankees fans being smug, arrogant bastards, it's fun to welcome them to NOT being in post season play.
Yeah I work with Mets fans and you Mets fans are no angels yourselves. I'm still getting shit about us losing in the playoffs, which baffles me because Mets blew the best season in how long? Yankees fans over there are few and far between but we certainly didn't go out of our way to rub it in when the Mets blew it but Mets fans are some of the meanest and nastiest and miserable fans out there. Seriously, Yankees fans will go buck wild but not nearly that bad.
Anti-Social Darwinism
15-10-2007, 06:35
Rox - 4
D'Backs - 1
We're 1 win away from the Series!
Go Rox!
Shinfundo
17-10-2007, 03:21
I said the Red Sox would beat the Angels and they did.I said the Indians would beat the Yankees and they did.I said the Rockies would beat the Phillies and they did.I said the Diamondbacks would beat the Cubs and they did.
4 for 4 in the Divisional round.
I said the Rockies would beat the Diamondbacks and that happened.I said the Indians would beat the Red Sox and they currently have the advantage.
Has anyone else noticed how completely insane Jacob's Field is in October? It's like fucking, well, Fenway in October. :p
New Genoa
17-10-2007, 04:12
Nice job at failing, BoSux. :)
Nice job at failing, BoSux. :)
:/
'Twas unfortunate, these last three games. But Beckett's pitching tomorrow, and I think the Sox might just get there offense back.
I mean, they did hit three home runs in a row.
The South Islands
17-10-2007, 05:03
:/
'Twas unfortunate, these last three games. But Beckett's pitching tomorrow, and I think the Sox might just get there offense back.
I mean, they did hit three home runs in a row.
...and didn't even get close in the other 8 innings.
Myrmidonisia
22-10-2007, 12:20
Okay, who picked the Sox and Rockies for the World Series?
I know it wasn't me.
But what a comeback for the Red Sox, huh?
Corneliu 2
22-10-2007, 13:16
Okay, who picked the Sox and Rockies for the World Series?
I know it wasn't me.
I did! :D
But what a comeback for the Red Sox, huh?
Not as good as 3 years ago.
Andaluciae
22-10-2007, 13:23
Joel Skinner, Joel Skinner, Joel Skinner...I'm gonna stand up for you, man, but that was an awful, awful call.
ManRam wasn't even going to try throwing to home...he was going to second.
Or how about Lofton getting that double stolen through that god-awful call by the second base ump? Ugh. If that doesn't happen, Lofton scores and the double play doesn't end the inning. Lost opportunities all over the place. Ugh, ugh, ugh.
Although, I expected it. I am a Cleveland sports fan, and all we know is misery.
Anti-Social Darwinism
22-10-2007, 14:54
Rox-Sox in the Series. Cool. The Rockies have to win - keep the dream alive!
Andaluciae
22-10-2007, 15:04
Rox-Sox in the Series. Cool. The Rockies have to win - keep the dream alive!
Yeah, Go Rockies...I guess.
Anti-Social Darwinism
22-10-2007, 15:12
Yeah, Go Rockies...I guess.
If it's any consolation, I was rooting for the Indians. I dislike the Sox almost as much as I dislike the Yankees.
Andaluciae
22-10-2007, 15:27
If it's any consolation, I was rooting for the Indians. I dislike the Sox almost as much as I dislike the Yankees.
Ain't that the truth, though?
I mean, an Indians-Rockies series would have been fantastic. Both teams deserving of a Series win, and both teams in which such a win has been a long time coming.
I'm hoping the Rockies will show up the Red Sox in five games or less.
New Stalinberg
23-10-2007, 02:00
First my Cubbies, now the Indians.
Go Rockies.
The damn Red-Sox won like what, two or three years ago?
Corneliu 2
23-10-2007, 02:01
First my Cubbies, now the Indians.
Go Rockies.
The damn Red-Sox won like what, two or three years ago?
Three years ago. And that was when they were down 3 games to love to the Yankees. :D
Potarius
23-10-2007, 02:10
First my Cubbies, now the Indians.
Go Rockies.
The damn Red-Sox won like what, two or three years ago?
Hey, at least the Indians have more championships than the Red Sox.
Anyone else see Papelbon's dance/announcement to the crowd? Classic.
Potarius
23-10-2007, 02:19
Anyone else see Papelbon's dance/announcement to the crowd? Classic.
Best shit ever.
Shinfundo
23-10-2007, 02:20
The Boston Red Sox are the most overrated franchise in all of sports.I mean for one they have the 2nd highest payroll and they somehow manage to underachieve.The only reason there not a hated franchise is because of this whole "Rivalry" with the Yankees.If I remember correctly the Red Sox helped build the Yankees into what they are.They gave them Ruth.Yeah they really should be loved because there supposedly trying to make up for their mistake.
The Indians blew my chance at back to back perfect predicted MLB playoffs.
The Boston Red Sox are the most overrated franchise in all of sports.I mean for one they have the 2nd highest payroll and they somehow manage to underachieve.The only reason there not a hated franchise is because of this whole "Rivalry" with the Yankees.If I remember correctly the Red Sox helped build the Yankees into what they are.They gave them Ruth.Yeah they really should be loved because there supposedly trying to make up for their mistake.
The Indians blew my chance at back to back perfect predicted MLB playoffs.
:rolleyes:
I don't see Toronto doing any better. Or Baltimore. And do I HAVE to mention the Devil Rays?
The AL East is the toughest division in baseball. Three out of the five teams would be an annual contender for a playoff spot in any other division, and probably four. What other division can claim that?
Krissland
23-10-2007, 02:28
Hey, at least the Indians have more championships than the Red Sox.
And the yankees have more then the Indians but it doesn't diminish their achievements. I was always of the mind that while it's the best team (that year) that wins the series, it's a damn good team that makes the playoffs. Some teams are consistently good every year but don't make the leap to best. And some teams are rarely good but occasionally jump right to best and then will disappear for another decade.
Anyway, the Indians were a great team and they put up a hell of a fight. I have to say that even when the Sox were down it was still a great battle to watch. My heart skipped a beat every time Kenny Lofton came up to bat lol. Don't get me wrong, I would have started crying if they had lost but I'd still be giving the Indians their due and rooting for them as the AL contender.
Potarius
23-10-2007, 02:31
And the yankees have more then the Indians but it doesn't diminish their achievements. I was always of the mind that while it's the best team (that year) that wins the series, it's a damn good team that makes the playoffs. Some teams are consistently good every year but don't make the leap to best. And some teams are rarely good but occasionally jump right to best and then will disappear for another decade.
Anyway, the Indians were a great team and they put up a hell of a fight. I have to say that even when the Sox were down it was still a great battle to watch. My heart skipped a beat every time Kenny Lofton came up to bat lol. Don't get me wrong, I would have started crying if they had lost but I'd still be giving the Indians their due and rooting for them as the AL contender.
Same here... But I was happy when I turned on the TV after I got out of the shower and found that the Sox had beaten the shit out of the Indians.
Just like I'm happy when the Steelers pound the hell out of, well, anybody.
Corneliu 2
23-10-2007, 02:43
Just like I'm happy when the Steelers pound the hell out of, well, anybody.
Except they lost this week to my beloved Broncos. :D
*points to signature*
I should have known that the Indians were doomed the moment they went
up 3-1 in this series. I had a feeling that Boston was going to pull it out
even though I was rooting for Cleveland. I should have known that the
Indians had no chance. Why? Let's take a look back at some recent
postseason collapses.
2002 San Francisco Giants: up 3-2 in the World Series, winning Game 6
5-0 in the 7th, then they collapse and lose the game, then lose game 7.
2003 Chicago Cubs: Up 3-1 in the NLCS against Florida, lose Game 5,
five outs away from winning in Game 6 before collapsing, then losing
Game 7 to complete the choke.
2004: New York Yankees: Up 3-0 in the ALCS, three outs away from a
clean sweep of Boston before Brian Roberts scores the tying run and
the Red Sox go on to pull off a monumental comeback, winning the
series.
2007 Cleveland Indians: Up 3-1 against Boston before the choke
happens. I won't go through the gory details, it is bad enough that
ESPN's favorite team pulled it off again.
Anyway, what do all of these collapses have in common?
Kenny Lofton.
Myrmidonisia
23-10-2007, 12:26
...
Anyway, what do all of these collapses have in common?
Kenny Lofton.
LOL... I'll bet that during the years he was with the Braves, the choking was even worse.
I should have known that the Indians were doomed the moment they went
up 3-1 in this series. I had a feeling that Boston was going to pull it out
even though I was rooting for Cleveland. I should have known that the
Indians had no chance. Why? Let's take a look back at some recent
postseason collapses.
2002 San Francisco Giants: up 3-2 in the World Series, winning Game 6
5-0 in the 7th, then they collapse and lose the game, then lose game 7.
2003 Chicago Cubs: Up 3-1 in the NLCS against Florida, lose Game 5,
five outs away from winning in Game 6 before collapsing, then losing
Game 7 to complete the choke.
2004: New York Yankees: Up 3-0 in the ALCS, three outs away from a
clean sweep of Boston before Brian Roberts scores the tying run and
the Red Sox go on to pull off a monumental comeback, winning the
series.
2007 Cleveland Indians: Up 3-1 against Boston before the choke
happens. I won't go through the gory details, it is bad enough that
ESPN's favorite team pulled it off again.
Anyway, what do all of these collapses have in common?
Kenny Lofton.
You've crossed up your Robertses- the one you're referring to there is Dave Roberts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Roberts), not the Orioles' Brian Roberts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Roberts) who's never been a member of the Red Sox.
Anyhow, it's an interesting statistic (one that FOX pointed out during Game 7) but not one I'd put squarely on poor old Kenny Lofton's shoulders. He was never expected to be anything but a role player in each situation, and, in each case, pitching was the undoing of each team. Felix Rodriguez and Robb Nen couldn't hold a 5-0 lead in 2002, Mark Prior couldn't hold a 3-0 lead in 2003, Mariano Rivera couldn't hold a 4-3 lead in 2004 and in 2007, Fausto Carmona's Game 5 debacle really turned the series around. Tell Lofton he's got a horrible case of bad luck but let's not villify the man just yet.
:rolleyes:
I don't see Toronto doing any better. Or Baltimore. And do I HAVE to mention the Devil Rays?
The AL East is the toughest division in baseball. Three out of the five teams would be an annual contender for a playoff spot in any other division, and probably four. What other division can claim that?
I've long held Toronto should shift leagues- the cards are too stacked against them in the AL East (who really can beat Boston or New York?). Heck, if the Jays were in the NL Central, they'd be in the playoffs. *sigh* (14 years is too long a wait...:( )
Myrmidonisia
28-10-2007, 23:04
You Rockies fans must be pretty down... It's the BoSox in 4. The series is over tonight.