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Would you give up your porn for....

Soviestan
03-10-2007, 01:51
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?
Bann-ed
03-10-2007, 01:54
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?

Facism fo Ism.

In other words, Yes.

Pr0n doesn't love me back...or anything that goes along with that.
ColaDrinkers
03-10-2007, 01:56
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?

Yes.
Gartref
03-10-2007, 01:56
You’ll take my porns when you pry them from my sticky dead fingers!
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
03-10-2007, 01:58
I wouldn't date anyone that prude.
Kyronea
03-10-2007, 01:58
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?

No, but only because it's just another part of who I am. If they can't accept me for who I am then I want nothing to do with them on a relationship basis.
Kiryu-shi
03-10-2007, 01:59
It depends on the person, the reason, and the type of relationship.
JuNii
03-10-2007, 02:01
While I said yes, I would promise not to watch porn without her.

because sometimes, good porn might come in handy. ;)
Call to power
03-10-2007, 02:01
no because that would mean being under the thumb

however I would give up porn for her and her best friend :p
Old Tacoma
03-10-2007, 02:03
Facism fo Ism.

In other words, Yes.

Pr0n doesn't love me back...or anything that goes along with that.

QFT, agree....
Johnny B Goode
03-10-2007, 02:05
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?

Possibly. If they were forceful enough. :p
Khadgar
03-10-2007, 02:19
Why would you date someone who didn't enjoy porn? That's like hating sex.
Teriyakinae
03-10-2007, 02:19
...She's pretty enough to be happy just looking at her (perhaps a little happier if she's less clothed)... and if I can trick her into believing I'm good looking too and convince her that she loves me... sure, I don't need to stare at anything but her... now all I have to do is try to stare at her constantly without freaking her out...
IDF
03-10-2007, 02:21
Yes because sex with your left hand isn't as good as the real thing.
Verdigroth
03-10-2007, 02:35
yes, but I would ask her to replace it with pics of her...just so I can have something to look at when I can't have her near.
New Genoa
03-10-2007, 02:55
Yes because sex with your left hand isn't as good as the real thing.

Relationships come and go, but the one with your hand always comes.

I vote hell no.
Bann-ed
03-10-2007, 03:21
Relationships come and go, but the one with your hand always comes.

I vote hell no.

Yes, but.. when the relationship goes, the pr0ns can come back.

Win win situation.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-10-2007, 03:22
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?

Assuming one has a porn collection, and assuming one has a significant other, how could one love a significant other that would make such an ultimatum?

My wife didn't make such a request. She didn't need to; she's better than porn. :p
Sarkhaan
03-10-2007, 03:57
No. I don't accept ultimatums, regardless of what they are about. She could request, and maybe we would discuss and then we'd see, but ultimatum? No.
Smunkeeville
03-10-2007, 04:03
Why would you date someone who didn't enjoy porn? That's like hating sex.

I love sex, and don't enjoy porn.

Also, I would never demand hubby do anything, someone who tells you to either do what they say or go away, isn't the type of person you can have a healthy relationship with.

Hubby and I for the most part share the same values, when we do not, we try to bend to the other's needs.
Saige Dragon
03-10-2007, 04:11
I'm a sleazy bastard and would say yes... but when I would be alone I would indulge... porn, booze, cocaine... I am the scum of the streets.
Khadgar
03-10-2007, 04:13
I love sex, and don't enjoy porn.

Also, I would never demand hubby do anything, someone who tells you to either do what they say or go away, isn't the type of person you can have a healthy relationship with.

Hubby and I for the most part share the same values, when we do not, we try to bend to the other's needs.

Porn can have the most inspirational ideas!
Neesika
03-10-2007, 04:14
I follow orders.

But if my significant other wasn't into porn, they probably wouldn't be my significant other in the first place.
King Arthur the Great
03-10-2007, 04:24
Sure, but once I do, the "honey, I'm tired," "I've got a headache," and "I have <insert particular event> tomorrow" have to decrease significantly. God gave us caffeine, a variety of headache medications, and the planner to know to start earlier.

Generally speaking, if there are multiple means to an end, as long as one (or more) are kept open at almost all times, I'm happy.
Poliwanacraca
03-10-2007, 04:44
Why would you date someone who didn't enjoy porn? That's like hating sex.

That's nonsense. Not being into watching other people have sex does not logically equate to not being into having lots of sex oneself.
United Chicken Kleptos
03-10-2007, 05:02
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?

I would, but the person I would do this for hates me. At least, I think.
Wilgrove
03-10-2007, 05:18
Yes, and a plus would be if she replaces the porn with pictures of her.
The Brevious
03-10-2007, 08:32
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?

It's already pretty much like that.
Doesn't mean i won't live vicariously through friends and strangers alike, providing with links and toys and appendages and sound effects.
Whatevah.
The Brevious
03-10-2007, 08:33
That's nonsense. Not being into watching other people have sex does not logically equate to not being into having lots of sex oneself.

We watched "Inside Deep Throat" together the other night on cable. They showed more than we expected. WooT!
The Loyal Opposition
03-10-2007, 08:52
"Inside Deep Throat"

Now whenever I think "porn," I'll think "Richard Nixon."

Fantastic.
The Brevious
03-10-2007, 08:52
Now whenever I think "porn," I'll think "Richard Nixon."
You mean you didn't already :confused:

I figured he fucked enough people to go down as one of the biggest studs in ... ah, never mind with the ancient jokes.
Fantastic.
Sounds like my work here is done. *bows*
The Brevious
03-10-2007, 08:54
Yes, and a plus would be if she replaces the porn with pictures of her.
You could do what i ... a friend of mine did and collect porn movie covers, and do a little creative editing.
*nods*

That is until a certain anecdote comes up with a brisk wind and blows the material all over the neighbourhood playground.
The Brevious
03-10-2007, 08:55
No. I don't accept ultimatums, regardless of what they are about. She could request, and maybe we would discuss and then we'd see, but ultimatum? No.

Yay! Sark on a porn thread!
*dances weasel dance*
The Brevious
03-10-2007, 08:58
yes, but I would ask her to replace it with pics of her...just so I can have something to look at when I can't have her near.

Who was complaining about not revisiting *all* the porn they'd downloaded, and perhaps how you might just be a smidge O/C about it?
BTW, i haven't finished the DVD hentai selection stack of yours yet.
The Brevious
03-10-2007, 08:59
You’ll take my porns when you pry them from my sticky dead fingers!

Aw fuck if they didn't just hand you the winner of thread crown on this one.
South Lorenya
03-10-2007, 09:49
Since I have hentai not porn (there's a difference, you know), sure, I'd give up my porn~
Pacificville
03-10-2007, 09:58
Probably.

Question: how much porn do you guys currently have? I just checked and my porn folder is about 14 gigs.
Kiryu-shi
03-10-2007, 09:59
none

'nother question, how many of ya'll would want your S.O. to give up their porn?
Extreme Ironing
03-10-2007, 10:40
I shouldn't think I'd have any use for porn if I had a significant other, so they probably wouldn't know. I'm not sure why anyone would feel so strongly about it to ask you to get rid of it, seems rather unreasonable.
Ulrichland
03-10-2007, 10:48
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?

I`d give it up. Well, actually I don't own any porn anymore, since I committed a complete pornocide on my HD a few years ago. I just was sick of it and didn't like sich crap anymore.

Thanks to the internet I`m all bored with sex. :?
Ifreann
03-10-2007, 10:49
If my hypothetical girlfriend said anything along the lines of 'Do this or I'm leaving you' I'd go for secret option C, I leave her.
Barringtonia
03-10-2007, 10:59
Assuming one has a porn collection, and assuming one has a significant other, how could one love a significant other that would make such an ultimatum?

My wife didn't make such a request. She didn't need to; she's better than porn. :p

Yes, she certainly is - t'was a wonderful affair

*thank god I have LG on ignore so he can't read my posts

Wait....what?
South Lorenya
03-10-2007, 11:21
Porn: none
Hentai: ~350 MB... and that's only because I save the best pictures. Otherwise I'd have ten times as much.
Pacificville
03-10-2007, 12:36
Porn: none
Hentai: ~350 MB... and that's only because I save the best pictures. Otherwise I'd have ten times as much.

How is hentai not a form of porn? It is just a type of porn.
ColaDrinkers
03-10-2007, 13:17
I have perhaps 200 gigs of porn. I don't know exactly since it's so many types of things that could be classified as porn (movies, gravure, flash animations, comics, images etc), spread out on multiple hard drives and in a lot of subfolders on them.

Most of my porn is of the kind you don't want anyone to know that you have, so if I were ever to get a girl (extremely unlikely) I would delete it all. It wouldn't be a major loss, as I mostly just collect it because I have nothing better to do, and because it has some relevance to certain websites I frequent.
Bottle
03-10-2007, 13:19
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?
I wouldn't remain with a partner who had that kind of a problem with porn. Their values regarding sex and sexuality would obviously not be compatible with my own.
Bottle
03-10-2007, 13:21
'nother question, how many of ya'll would want your S.O. to give up their porn?
Not I. I'm very lazy, you see, and it's so nice to be able to just borrow some porn from him instead of having to go find it myself.
Cameroi
03-10-2007, 13:27
pr0n is too expensive unless its free.

besides there are better looking things then anything human. much as i love the idea of at least some eroticism, i can't stand the same damd cleche poses over and over again, and wtf is with the damd high heals crap.

i guess eros is in the eye of the beholder. two tits are not enough. everyone should have at least four, and be covered with their own fur.

=^^=
.../\...
Isidoor
03-10-2007, 13:33
i guess eros is in the eye of the beholder. two tits are not enough. everyone should have at least four, and be covered with their own fur.

you participated in this event (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljAXHWE0bDQ&eurl=), didn't you?;)
HC Eredivisie
03-10-2007, 13:47
You’ll take my porns when you pry them from my sticky dead fingers!
Some people are into that, I guess.
Cameroi
03-10-2007, 13:47
you participated in this event (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljAXHWE0bDQ&eurl=), didn't you?;)

yup; just so i could say what you quoted.

=^^=
.../\...
Cabra West
03-10-2007, 13:49
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?

I seriously can't imagine having a significant other who doesn't also enjoy watching porn.
I would regard the request to stop looking at porn as ridiculous, especially considering that I'm writing erotic short stories myself and draw porn pics.
HC Eredivisie
03-10-2007, 13:51
I seriously can't imagine having a significant other who doesn't also enjoy watching porn.
I would regard the request to stop looking at porn as ridiculous, especially considering that I'm writing erotic short stories myself and draw porn pics.
What the...

We want those stories and pictures!
Cabra West
03-10-2007, 13:53
none

'nother question, how many of ya'll would want your S.O. to give up their porn?

Hell no! I love his porn collection!
Cabra West
03-10-2007, 13:54
What the...

We want those stories and pictures!

Neither are online yet, sorry...
Soviet Haaregrad
03-10-2007, 17:02
No, I'd find a new SigOth.
Smunkeeville
03-10-2007, 17:09
Porn can have the most inspirational ideas!

I don't need porn to enjoy sex.
Cabra West
03-10-2007, 17:09
I don't need porn to enjoy sex.

And I don't need stockings to seduce my BF. But they do make it more interesting, for both of us ;)
Snafturi
03-10-2007, 17:12
No. Not because I have an attatchment to porn, but I don't do ultimatums. That's low. Lower than low. I could never look at my signifigant other the same way. I'd resent them, I'd be afraid to trust them, and I'd be waiting to the next ultimatum.

You shouldn't try tp change people. It doesn't work, and more importantly; why are you with them if you don't like them? People are not fixer uppers.
Skaladora
03-10-2007, 17:13
There's no option for "Aldready did it once".

Of course, it was a mistake to do so, because that SO was actually jealous and insecure about my porn. Can you imagine that? Plus, that SO had a lower sex drive than I had, and while even though I had porn he was never left wanting, after getting rid of it I was pretty much left out in the cold.

Personally, as long as you're not some sort of porn addict, and that your porn is only a supplement to your sex life and not a substitute for it, I don't think it's a good idea. I know I'd view such a request from another SO in the future as much less reasonable than I had seen it back when I accepted it a few years ago.
Smunkeeville
03-10-2007, 17:13
And I don't need stockings to seduce my BF. But they do make it more interesting, for both of us ;)
:p
FreedomEverlasting
03-10-2007, 17:26
In a practical sense no. Not so much because I am not willing to make the sacrifices, but if a girl is demanding like that she's not worth it. If she expects you to give up porn for her right off the start think about the kinna bullshit you have to put up with 2 months down the line?
Poliwanacraca
03-10-2007, 18:49
none

'nother question, how many of ya'll would want your S.O. to give up their porn?

I suppose I'd mildly want it, but I certainly wouldn't ask them to, let alone demand it. My technique in the past has been very simple - if I found my boyfriend looking at porn, I'd...ah...distract him into paying attention to me instead.

Somehow, my exes never seemed to object to this. ;)
Law Abiding Criminals
03-10-2007, 20:13
I would give it up, sure - but it would have to be the real thing, and if she went out of town without me...well, I can't promise I'll keep off the stuff. The rest of the time? No problem; it isn't needed.

That said, I'm often too stressed to worry about any sort of sexual activity anyway.

That, and if my wife were viewing porn, I wouldnt' be the least bit upset. It's not the real thing, and I don't consider it cheating. (If she were turning me down in favor of porn, I'd be upset. If she were doing it in addition to sex, I wouldn't care and I really wouldn't even care what kind of porn she was looking at. She could be viewing German Scheisse videos for all I care and it wouldn't bother me as long as it doesn't cut into our sex life and she doesn't get anything serious on the computer.)
Ashmoria
03-10-2007, 20:30
No. Not because I have an attatchment to porn, but I don't do ultimatums. That's low. Lower than low. I could never look at my signifigant other the same way. I'd resent them, I'd be afraid to trust them, and I'd be waiting to the next ultimatum.

You shouldn't try tp change people. It doesn't work, and more importantly; why are you with them if you don't like them? People are not fixer uppers.

this is my attitude too.

he may be my sweetheart but he cant control my life. he doesnt own the inside of my head.

if he thinks i have a problem with looking at too much porn, he can bring it up but dont be telling me what i can and cant do with my own time.

its a mistake to take up with anyone who wants to control your life. it just doesnt work. as you say, if you feel the need to demand a change in your partner maybe you arent really interested in THEM but only some ideal picture of what you think they can become.
IL Ruffino
03-10-2007, 20:50
No, I wouldn't stop looking at porn.
Pan-Arab Barronia
03-10-2007, 20:52
For my partner...I'd hunt down the creators and shoot them, if she asked. Although I don't actually have a porn collection.
Mirkana
03-10-2007, 20:53
I don't have a porn collection. Even if I did, I would give it up in a heartbeat for a loved one.
Maineiacs
04-10-2007, 02:24
I'd give it up whether they asked me to or not. If I were ever in a relationship again, I would look at no one but her. I wouldn't need anyone else.
The Brevious
04-10-2007, 04:17
No, I wouldn't stop looking at porn.

No one *cares* if you do or don't stop *looking* at it ....

our concern is if you do or don't stop attempting to market YOUR OWN!!!!!!
The Brevious
04-10-2007, 04:20
Since I have hentai not porn (there's a difference, you know), sure, I'd give up my porn~

Yeah, i guess Harlequin does smack a little different than Penthouse letters.
More distracting words and hints, really.
Intestinal fluids
04-10-2007, 04:22
O.O http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/585256,CST-NWS-murd03.article

Dying for porn sounds slightly extreme however...
Rotten bacon
04-10-2007, 05:01
Now whenever I think "porn," I'll think "Richard Nixon."

Fantastic.

i dont know if u guys know this but the name deep throat was actually givin to the guy cuz a a porn that was out at the time.
MrWho
04-10-2007, 05:26
Even though I agree with other posters about not giving in to ultimatums, it would be a possibility, since I don't watch that much porn to begin with. Now, if it was one of my hobbies, then I wouldn't budge.
The Brevious
04-10-2007, 08:41
i dont know if u guys know this but the name deep throat was actually givin to the guy cuz a a porn that was out at the time.

You're right on the Mark.
Kiryu-shi
04-10-2007, 12:46
none

'nother question, how many of ya'll would want your S.O. to give up their porn?

[partial threadjack]Since I've asked this question, three women and no guys have answered it. Why? Do women read threads better than guys? Is it socially unacceptable for guys to admit they'd want their S.O. to give up porn? Is it somehow an outlandish question for guys and not for girls? Or are girls more likely to talk about their S.O.'s viewing porn? Or is it just coincidence?[/begining of partial threadjack. >.>]
Bottle
04-10-2007, 12:51
[partial threadjack]Since I've asked this question, three women and no guys have answered it. Why? Do women read threads better than guys? Is it socially unacceptable for guys to admit they'd want their S.O. to give up porn? Is it somehow an outlandish question for guys and not for girls? Or are girls more likely to talk about their S.O.'s viewing porn? Or is it just coincidence?[/begining of partial threadjack. >.>]
Personal guess:

Guys are more likely to assume that their partner doesn't have porn in the first place.
Cabra West
04-10-2007, 12:58
Personal guess:

Guys are more likely to assume that their partner doesn't have porn in the first place.

You know, the sad thing is that many of them would be right, too. :(
Bottle
04-10-2007, 13:03
You know, the sad thing is that many of them would be right, too. :(
*Shrug*

Not everybody likes porn. Personally, I can take it or leave it these days, mainly because it's so much trouble to find anything good. Most mainstream stuff I used to like has gone in creepy directions lately (not sure why), and it's always been nearly impossible to find good-looking male porn stars in any hetero material.
Kiryu-shi
04-10-2007, 13:08
Wait, do girls really not watch as much porn as guys?
Bottle
04-10-2007, 13:20
Wait, do girls really not watch as much porn as guys?
Is that really surprising? Have you actually thought about what most porn looks like? It's made for men by men. A whole lot of the porn out there specifically revolves around doing uncomfortable things to a female body. A lot of the things that mainstream porn focuses on are things that aren't particularly fun for girls. Is it really so surprising that girls are less likely to enjoy watching this sort of thing?

Take, for example, the "money shot." Sorry to break it to you, guys, but most girls aren't really excited at the idea of having you splooge in their face. Yes, that splooge represents a man having an orgasm, which is lovely for him and I certainly don't object to his orgasm, but please remember that it doesn't represent a woman having an orgasm. She's just getting splooged on. Which is novel, but not really orgasmic for most women.

Or how about the fixation on shoving really large objects/body parts into a vagina and ramming them in and out very rapidly? Given that a statistical majority of women will not achieve orgasm this way, is it really so surprising that they're not quite so turned on by watching it?

That's just a couple examples, but I'm hoping you get my point.

I honestly believe that if porn was equally likely to be made for women's enjoyment as it is for men's, then women would probably view porn with much, much higher frequency. I know I sure would.
Kiryu-shi
04-10-2007, 13:32
Snippy

I don't actually watch enough porn to say that I do know what "most" porn looks like... :p But ok, points taken. Also, a quick venture to google supported your points. Sort of depressing, but yeah, that makes sense. On the plus side, I found a group* that creates porn, "by and for women". So at least there's a movement towards equality in porn, I suppose. There's even a "Feminist Porn Awards"...hehehe. But yeah, you womens need to get more demanding about your porn!

*according to wiki, the group is called "good for her". Feel free to research. >.>
Bottle
04-10-2007, 13:40
I don't actually watch enough porn to say that I do know what "most" porn looks like... :p But ok, points taken. Also, a quick venture to google supported your points. Sort of depressing, but yeah, that makes sense.

*nod*


On the plus side, I found a group that creates porn, "by and for women". So at least there's a movement towards equality in porn, I suppose.

Oh, there is some good stuff out there, don't get me wrong. But it's much harder to find. Which means, of course, that a woman will have to put more effort into finding porn than a man will, which further discourages women from using porn.

Also, a problem I encounter when looking for porn is that I so often stumble on something that totally and completely kills my sexual desire. And I'm a pretty vanilla person when it comes to my tastes in porn, so I'm not seeking out anything wild to begin with. Yet I still end up encountering so much material that is all about humiliating and hurting a woman so that men can get off...which kind of ruins the mood for me, as you would imagine.

I know some people are turned on by being "bottoms," and there's nothing wrong with that, but the majority of people (male or female) aren't. Most women don't like the idea of being abused or humiliated during sex, and it tends to put us off our game when we are inundated with images of women being treated that way. Sadly, most hetero porn includes such material.


There's even a "Feminist Porn Awards"...hehehe. But yeah, you womens need to get more demanding about your porn!
Or you mens need to start making more porn that focuses on everybody having a good time. Either way. ;)

EDIT: One other thing to remember is that women have always been interested in pornography, but since porn is still male territory in many ways there have been other ways for women to get their fix. Have you ever read a romance novel? Seriously, some of them put Penthouse Forum to shame. But it's not porn, it's a romance novel. Wink wink.
Kiryu-shi
04-10-2007, 13:53
Or you mens need to start making more porn that focuses on everybody having a good time. Either way. ;)
Pfft, make your own! Or at least help out in the making process!

EDIT: One other thing to remember is that women have always been interested in pornography, but since porn is still male territory in many ways there have been other ways for women to get their fix. Have you ever read a romance novel? Seriously, some of them put Penthouse Forum to shame. But it's not porn, it's a romance novel. Wink wink.

You know, a few years ago when I ran out of books I started going through my mom's books. I quickly got all grossed out cause they were my mom's, but yeah, some hot stuff in there. That was fun. And strange.
Bottle
04-10-2007, 13:59
Pfft, make your own! Or at least help out in the making process!
Um. If you're watching porn that doesn't include women in the process of making it, then...um...I mean, not that there's anything wrong with that, but...


You know, a few years ago when I ran out of books I started going through my mom's books. I quickly got all grossed out cause they were my mom's, but yeah, some hot stuff in there. That was fun. And strange.
My mother caught me looking at some of the paperbacks by the line at the grocery store once, when I was about 12 or 13. She asked if I knew what they were about. I didn't, and--being my mother--she helpfully let me know that they were "A hundred pages of plot that are used to hide a hundred pages of sex." She then asked if I wanted one, since I was "getting to that age."

Mind you, this conversation did not occur in lowered tones. Rather, it was a normal-volume exchange carried on while standing in line surrounded by other patrons.

My mother is an unusual person.
Kiryu-shi
04-10-2007, 14:05
Um. If you're watching porn that doesn't include women in the process of making it, then...um...I mean, not that there's anything wrong with that, but...
;)

:p
My mother caught me looking at some of the paperbacks by the line at the grocery store once, when I was about 12 or 13. She asked if I knew what they were about. I didn't, and--being my mother--she helpfully let me know that they were "A hundred pages of plot that are used to hide a hundred pages of sex." She then asked if I wanted one, since I was "getting to that age."

Mind you, this conversation did not occur in lowered tones. Rather, it was a normal-volume exchange carried on while standing in line surrounded by other patrons.

My mother is an unusual person.

Mothers are pretty special. Although I don't think my mother ever found out about my brief fascination with that section of her book collection. All in all, I think I'm pretty okay with that.

Edit: Anyhow, I'll leave you on your quest for more and better porn. Bedtime for me.
Teriyakinae
04-10-2007, 14:07
My mother caught me looking at some of the paperbacks by the line at the grocery store once, when I was about 12 or 13. She asked if I knew what they were about. I didn't, and--being my mother--she helpfully let me know that they were "A hundred pages of plot that are used to hide a hundred pages of sex." She then asked if I wanted one, since I was "getting to that age."

Mind you, this conversation did not occur in lowered tones. Rather, it was a normal-volume exchange carried on while standing in line surrounded by other patrons.

My mother is an unusual person.

I think I like your mother... erm, not in the "ya mamma" way... my own mother freaks out when I click a link and the page changes thinking I'm looking some kinda of depraved filth...


[partial threadjack]Since I've asked this question, three women and no guys have answered it. Why? Do women read threads better than guys? Is it socially unacceptable for guys to admit they'd want their S.O. to give up porn? Is it somehow an outlandish question for guys and not for girls? Or are girls more likely to talk about their S.O.'s viewing porn? Or is it just coincidence?[/begining of partial threadjack. >.>]

Personally I'd never ask a girlfriend to give up porn - if she wants something to keep her happy while I'm not there then that's fine by me... just so long as she uses me to keep her happy when I am.

Weirdly an ex of mine once demanded that I got rid of all porn and got immensely pissy about it when I didn't delete anything (I'd already chucked it about a week into our relationship) and spent the next 6 months screaming at me, demanding what words I'd used to search for it -_-
She's also a self confessed porn addict.
So yeah, sometimes it kinda is better to just walk away if someone demands that you get rid of it, but I never have much anyway so it's no big deal to get rid of it in favour of the real thing. Mind you, I don't have a huge sex drive anyway, so maybe that's why it's not such a problem for me?
Bottle
04-10-2007, 14:13
I think I like your mother... erm, not in the "ya mamma" way... my own mother freaks out when I click a link and the page changes thinking I'm looking some kinda of depraved filth...
The interesting thing about my mother is that she just doesn't have a lot of the hangups that most people have about sex stuff. I don't mean she's managed to liberate herself from them or something, I mean she genuinely doesn't seem to feel them in the first place.

For her, saying "penis" or "vagina" is like saying "elbow" or "ear." She really doesn't distinguish in terms of the significance or whatever. Talking about sex is like talking about any other bodily function.

While I can enjoy and appreciate this about her now, I was not so delighted with it when I was a preteen and teenager. Having a mother who was comfortable discussing one's menses in a public restaurant did not strike me as much of a blessing at the time.
Pure Metal
04-10-2007, 14:20
Is that really surprising? Have you actually thought about what most porn looks like? It's made for men by men. A whole lot of the porn out there specifically revolves around doing uncomfortable things to a female body. A lot of the things that mainstream porn focuses on are things that aren't particularly fun for girls. Is it really so surprising that girls are less likely to enjoy watching this sort of thing?

Take, for example, the "money shot." Sorry to break it to you, guys, but most girls aren't really excited at the idea of having you splooge in their face. Yes, that splooge represents a man having an orgasm, which is lovely for him and I certainly don't object to his orgasm, but please remember that it doesn't represent a woman having an orgasm. She's just getting splooged on. Which is novel, but not really orgasmic for most women.

Or how about the fixation on shoving really large objects/body parts into a vagina and ramming them in and out very rapidly? Given that a statistical majority of women will not achieve orgasm this way, is it really so surprising that they're not quite so turned on by watching it?

That's just a couple examples, but I'm hoping you get my point.

I honestly believe that if porn was equally likely to be made for women's enjoyment as it is for men's, then women would probably view porn with much, much higher frequency. I know I sure would.

it would also make sense to me that most women (and i'm making a generalisation here) don't get turned on quite as simply as most men.
for most blokes, for example, show them some tits and they'll get turned on pretty much like that.
but, the way i understand it, show women a cock and she won't be that excited straight away.

all i'm saying is there's more to getting off for women than just the visual experience 'standard' (for men) porn offers.

hope that makes sense...
(and btw, while we're on the subject of porn, i recommend this book (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Once-More-Feeling-Tried-Greatest/dp/1841154377/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/026-2122705-5981234?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1191503759&sr=8-1) - i liked it :p)


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EDIT: One other thing to remember is that women have always been interested in pornography, but since porn is still male territory in many ways there have been other ways for women to get their fix. Have you ever read a romance novel? Seriously, some of them put Penthouse Forum to shame. But it's not porn, it's a romance novel. Wink wink.

well there's my point (sorta)... i don't think i'd get off from reading stuff. yeah it could get me turned on (and erotic literature on the net has), but personally i need that visual element of actually seeing some womanly bits :P
Teriyakinae
04-10-2007, 14:27
for most blokes, for example, show them some tits and they'll get turned on pretty much like that.
but, the way i understand it, show women a cock and she won't be that excited straight away.

all i'm saying is there's more to getting off for women than just the visual experience 'standard' (for men) porn offers.

It doesn't help much that male stuffs isn't the most beautiful piece of engineering in the world... breasts are at least, well... nice looking (but why it is that a stops being sexy when the nipple is hidden??)
And actually a pretty smile is more of a turn on for me... which was awkward when I worked in very close proximity to the object of my desires for 4 months...

well there's my point (sorta)... i don't think i'd get off from reading stuff. yeah it could get me turned on (and erotic literature on the net has), but personally i need that visual element of actually seeing some womanly bits :P

Personally, I find literature to have a greater effect on me, but then I have a very vivid imagination, and I can rotate the camera to see exactly what I want in my mind *thumbs*
Ordo Drakul
04-10-2007, 14:27
If they truly wished to be significant, I'd have an entire collection devoted to them-but then, my SO has tons of porn in which I'm objectified, with new shots as his birthday, our anniversary, and other occassions roll around,
Kiryu-shi
04-10-2007, 14:29
*not asleep yet...*
well there's my point (sorta)... i don't think i'd get off from reading stuff. yeah it could get me turned on (and erotic literature on the net has), but personally i need that visual element of actually seeing some womanly bits :P

I totally go for reading. I actually mostly read and don't watch; it's all about the scene and setting and stuff for me. I think.
The Infinite Dunes
04-10-2007, 14:42
Oh... voted before I discovered the bit about the ultimatum bit... I don't react well to ultimatums. I tend to get very stubborn if people are demanding things of me. Ask me to do something, and give me the choice of refusing then I almost certainly won't. I guess that's a little odd, but meh.

Anyway, I don't actually have a porn collection. Besides, if I did it would be more likely to of males. I tend to prefer the male form to the female form, but prefer hetero sex. Another of my oddities... but yes, her finding gay porn might make the relationship a bit difficult.

Would I mind if she had a porn collection? Depends on the type. I would have a problem with the scarier shit, but otherwise no.
Pure Metal
04-10-2007, 15:22
It doesn't help much that male stuffs isn't the most beautiful piece of engineering in the world... breasts are at least, well... nice looking (but why it is that a stops being sexy when the nipple is hidden??)
And actually a pretty smile is more of a turn on for me... which was awkward when I worked in very close proximity to the object of my desires for 4 months...

1. i agree, willies are kinda gross looking
2. boobs are sexy covered up, in part or wholly, or naked... or anything. boobs just rock that much ;)
3. yeah, and me. pretty big eyes even more so :)
but then... that's attractiveness. in terms of what's actually going to give me a boner, boobs/womanly bits are what do it for me. talking just about me here, of course...


Personally, I find literature to have a greater effect on me, but then I have a very vivid imagination, and I can rotate the camera to see exactly what I want in my mind *thumbs*

i know exactly what you mean, as i think in pictures and its very easy to imagine all kinds of things when reading appropriate "literature" ;)
but what i meant was that while it may turn me on (give me a boner, to abandon any pretence of tact), i have never found it enough to finish to. for that i, personally, need something visual.


i don't think that's too unusual for many men.
but of course, i might be wrong. but then, magazines like FHM and Playboy would actually be read, and not just gawped at :p
Good Lifes
04-10-2007, 16:03
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?

What do you need porn for if you have a significant other? If I were her I'd drop anyone who needed porn more than her.
Bottle
04-10-2007, 16:06
What do you need porn for if you have a significant other? If I were her I'd drop anyone who needed porn more than her.
It's not a question of "needing porn" more than your SO, unless you want to talk about people who actually are addicted to porn. Most people who look at porn aren't addicted to it.

I like chocolate ice cream, but I also like macaroni and cheese. I could live without either one, I suppose, but why would I want to? I like both.
UN Protectorates
04-10-2007, 16:11
:confused: If I had a girlfriend, what in the Sam Hill do I need it for now anyway? 'Course I'd give it up.
Divine Imaginary Fluff
04-10-2007, 16:30
Porn can have the most inspirational ideas!
Especially hentai.
Neesika
04-10-2007, 16:34
*nod*

Also, a problem I encounter when looking for porn is that I so often stumble on something that totally and completely kills my sexual desire. And I'm a pretty vanilla person when it comes to my tastes in porn, so I'm not seeking out anything wild to begin with. Yet I still end up encountering so much material that is all about humiliating and hurting a woman so that men can get off...which kind of ruins the mood for me, as you would imagine.

I know some people are turned on by being "bottoms," and there's nothing wrong with that, but the majority of people (male or female) aren't. Most women don't like the idea of being abused or humiliated during sex, and it tends to put us off our game when we are inundated with images of women being treated that way. Sadly, most hetero porn includes such material.

I have to agree...I mean, I'm pretty subby. I like porn with whips and chains and bondage and domination. But if there is even the slightest hint that the woman is not enjoying the situation, it's a total arousal-kill. I do not want to see some woman being exploited, and just gritting her teeth and taking it. I want to see people who actually enjoy what they are doing, and that is passingly rare in mainstream porn.

Hence my love of kink.com! They have a series of domination or BDSM sites that include pre and post interviews with the participants, so you can be sure that they were into it, what they liked, what they weren't wild about etc. I can watch play rape, but only if I know it's actually consensual...anything that purports to be real rape, or forced sex in any way just pisses me off.
Neesika
04-10-2007, 16:36
What do you need porn for if you have a significant other? If I were her I'd drop anyone who needed porn more than her.

I like watching porn with my SOs.
Ifreann
04-10-2007, 16:39
:confused: If I had a girlfriend, what in the Sam Hill do I need it for now anyway? 'Course I'd give it up.

To watch with her. Get some ideas maybe.
Teriyakinae
04-10-2007, 16:40
:confused: If I had a girlfriend, what in the Sam Hill do I need it for now anyway? 'Course I'd give it up.

Maybe you would need Sam Hill porn? And I think it's for when you're in a relationship where sometimes your girlfriend has needs and desires of her own and doesn't want to bend to your will constantly. Personally I don't ever need it in a relationship since most of my partners have had a higher sex drive than me anyway but I don't entirely see why people should be held hostage to the sexual urges (or lack thereof) of their partner if they need more than they're getting.
And I'd rather they looked at some sexy pictures than got some sexy sex with someone else.
The Parkus Empire
04-10-2007, 17:11
A significant other? If they said give up porn collection/viewing for them, or lose them, would you?

I don't view porn so I couldn't say.
Law Abiding Criminals
04-10-2007, 17:16
I totally go for reading. I actually mostly read and don't watch; it's all about the scene and setting and stuff for me. I think.

So I'm not the only crazy person...one who enjoys fiction of this genre and actually listens to the dialogue in porn...come on. Porn without dialogue is like vanilla ice cream without hot fudge and whipped cream. There's just something missing.
Danicans
04-10-2007, 17:28
Aww, don't kill the kitties...

http://xxxchurch.com/pornpatrol/kitties.php

LOL

I quit for my wife a few years ago, so I know it's possible....
Howinder
04-10-2007, 17:34
And say no to Jenna?
Fuck NO!
Poliwanacraca
04-10-2007, 17:57
I know some people are turned on by being "bottoms," and there's nothing wrong with that, but the majority of people (male or female) aren't. Most women don't like the idea of being abused or humiliated during sex, and it tends to put us off our game when we are inundated with images of women being treated that way. Sadly, most hetero porn includes such material.



The sad thing is that I am a "bottom," and I still find most of that porn an immense buzzkill. My ex once made me watch a porno with him that he considered "really great," and I ended up walking out of the room in disgust. The whole thing, as far as I could tell, consisted of one men having sex with a girl while another man stood to the side whipping her and telling her that she was "a worthless little whore," then making her repeat that back to him. The girl did not look at all happy. At no point did the men do anything for her enjoyment. Heck, I don't think they even looked her in the eyes once in the whole video. She seemed more like a prop than a person. I may like being dominated, but I sure as heck wouldn't enjoy that.

And don't even get me started on the rape porn. Ugh...
JuNii
04-10-2007, 18:26
Neither are online yet, sorry...
so you'll let me know when they are? :p
And I don't need stockings to seduce my BF. But they do make it more interesting, for both of us ;)

... need... cold... shower... now...
Cabra West
04-10-2007, 18:28
so you'll let me know when they are? :p


I'd better get them online soon, there seems to be a lot of demand for them ;)


... need... cold... shower... now...

*lol
You seem to need those a lot ;)
JuNii
04-10-2007, 19:22
I'd better get them online soon, there seems to be a lot of demand for them ;) or you can just email them to me. you still have my addy right?

*lol
You seem to need those a lot ;) it's caused by the people I hang with here.

now... If I can just narrow the list of suspects down... :p
Law Abiding Criminals
04-10-2007, 21:49
The sad thing is that I am a "bottom," and I still find most of that porn an immense buzzkill. My ex once made me watch a porno with him that he considered "really great," and I ended up walking out of the room in disgust. The whole thing, as far as I could tell, consisted of one men having sex with a girl while another man stood to the side whipping her and telling her that she was "a worthless little whore," then making her repeat that back to him. The girl did not look at all happy. At no point did the men do anything for her enjoyment. Heck, I don't think they even looked her in the eyes once in the whole video. She seemed more like a prop than a person. I may like being dominated, but I sure as heck wouldn't enjoy that.

And don't even get me started on the rape porn. Ugh...

First off, that whole concept seems a little too...shall we say, contrived. I realize that porn muovies aren't exactly made for their scripts, but they can do better than that. Degrading or no, the whole idea seems a bit dry.

Second off, I wonder if it's different for men than it is for women. I haven't done a whole lot of research in the area, but if men are the "bottoms" for dominant females, do they appear to "enjoy" their role more? Do men who like that care as much if he's "enjoying" himself? I honestly just don't know. It almost makes me wonder if an erotic story written by the average casual author is, on the whole, better than one of these contrived porn productions. With a written story, the imagination can go wild, and there's no constraints of camera time or anything.

And don't get me started on the whole idea of "rape porn," either. Given what I'm reading here, I'm not sure if I would be seeing a porn movie or a soap opera with nudity...
Good Lifes
05-10-2007, 00:57
Porn is kind of for the immature mind (regardless of chronological age). I think it is a reflection of the person's ability to live in a real world overall.
The blessed Chris
05-10-2007, 01:17
Porn is kind of for the immature mind (regardless of chronological age). I think it is a reflection of the person's ability to live in a real world overall.

I'm feeling especially sorry for myself, introspective and self-absorbed tonight. You just cheered me up immensely; your capacity for utter prosaicness and Neo-classical pragmatism makes me feel better about myself.:)

And yes, unequivocally so.
Dempublicents1
05-10-2007, 01:46
I don't really have a porn collection, so it really doesn't apply. I look things up occasionally, but I don't really keep anything. But I agree with the general sentiment that an ultimatum like that would be unacceptable.
German Nightmare
05-10-2007, 02:04
When I'm in a serious relationship my porn-consumption drops by 95%.
The Brevious
05-10-2007, 07:38
... need... cold... shower... now...

That reminds me ... anyone seen LaDameSansMerci in a while? :(
The Brevious
05-10-2007, 07:42
Maybe you would need Sam Hill porn?

Erm, Sam Hall is easier to find.

Well, my name it is Sam Hall, Sam Hall.
Yes, my name it is Sam Hall; it is Sam Hall.
My name it is Sam Hall an' I hate you, one and all.
An' I hate you, one and all:
Damn your eyes.

I killed a man, they said; so they said.
I killed a man, they said; so they said.
I killed a man, they said an' I smashed in his head.
An' I left him layin' dead,
Damn his eyes.

But a-swingin', I must go; I must go.
A-swingin', I must go; I must go.
A-swingin', I must go while you critters down below,
Yell up: "Sam, I told you so."
Well, damn your eyes!

I saw Molly in the crowd; in the crowd.
I saw Molly in the crowd; in the crowd.
I saw Molly in the crowd an' I hollered, right out loud:
"Hey there Molly, ain't you proud?
"Damn your eyes."

Then the Sherriff, he came to; he came to.
Ah, yeah, the Sherriff, he came to; he came to.
The Sherriff, he come to an he said: "Sam, how are you?"
An I said: "Well, Sherriff, how are you,
"Damn your eyes."

My name is Samuel, Samuel.
My name is Samuel, Samuel.
My name is Samuel, an' I'll see you all in hell.
An' I'll see you all in hell,
Damn your eyes!
See, with Johnny saying that, it's just drop-dead sexy.
The Brevious
05-10-2007, 07:45
That's just a couple examples, but I'm hoping you get my point.


I could stand to hear a little more.
:D
Cabra West
05-10-2007, 09:48
Porn is kind of for the immature mind (regardless of chronological age). I think it is a reflection of the person's ability to live in a real world overall.

Well, I guess that could be said for all kinds of fiction, really. Including debatting in NSG.
Kiryu-shi
06-10-2007, 07:50
That reminds me ... anyone seen LaDameSansMerci in a while? :(

She is schooling seriously lately. :(
Teriyakinae
06-10-2007, 17:27
Erm, Sam Hall is easier to find.


See, with Johnny saying that, it's just drop-dead sexy.

I tried Sam Hall once, but he was too much man for me...
Kanabia
06-10-2007, 20:34
Um, I guess? Would rather date someone who'd watch it with me, though... :p
Araraukar
06-10-2007, 20:46
I prefer porn stories to videos... still pictures from between those two... and no, there's no force on this green earth that could make me give up my books voluntarily. :D
The Brevious
06-10-2007, 22:58
I tried Sam Hall once, but he was too much man for me...

Too much for almost *all* of us, i fear ....
Pernicious1
07-10-2007, 16:12
I would give up the one who gave me an ultimatum. I do not take kindly to ultimatums, which in my opinion, is nothing more than bullying. The old, "If you love me.." is a crock. If you want me to give up anything, you'd better give me a good incentive.
Intangelon
07-10-2007, 16:19
I don't respond well to ultimatums. Then again, I don't own any porn, either. I think actually needing porn, even to jerk off, shows a distinct lack of imagination. If someone I want to be with sees something in me that she can convince me is detrimental, she's one hell of a lot better off making her points in passive ways than giving me an either-or...unless the passive voice has been ignored.
Hayteria
08-10-2007, 04:10
No, but only because it's just another part of who I am. If they can't accept me for who I am then I want nothing to do with them on a relationship basis.
*applauds* I (probably) couldn't have said it better myself.
The Brevious
08-10-2007, 08:48
I think actually needing porn, even to jerk off, shows a distinct lack of imagination.
Okie .... Terror threat level ORANGE! :eek:
Intestinal fluids
08-10-2007, 13:19
Then again, I don't own any porn, either. I think actually needing porn, even to jerk off, shows a distinct lack of imagination.

:rolleyes: Yea right. So am i to assume you have never stepped into a movie theater and instead spend every night in your dark bedroom running movies inside your head that your making up as you go along? Or have never watched a TV cause thats just packed with others ideas that arnt yours?