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After being warned for Trolling and "Simple Plagirism", I've decided to cut my losses, and post a warning: the following is sarcastic satire, pure and simple. I found this at Uncyclopedia, and touched it up a bit.

It has just come to my attention, after much careful thinking, that famous Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling must be a communist conspirator as well!

JK Rowling is an obvious Marxist, attempting to pollute the minds of our youth with Communist propaganda. Harry Potter is a dirty communist allegory. The "pure-blood" Slytherins represent the aristocracy, who believe that "magic" (i.e. capital) should be in the hands of a privileged elite. The "clever" Ravenclaws represent the bourgeoisie, who collude with the aristocracy in the suppression of the petty-bourgeois Hufflepuffs and the proletarian house-elves. The brave Gryffindors (who wear red Quidditch robes) and Dumbledore's Army represent the Communists and the Red Army respectively, as the true leaders of the proletariat.

Wise old Dumbledore, with his voluminous white beard, obviously stands for Karl Marx, while Harry Potter's glasses and untidy black hair make him identical to Leon Trotsky. Harry's lightning-bolt scar is in reference to the fatal head wound inflicted on Trotsky by Ramón Mercader with an ice pick. Harry survives this attack, just as the Totskyist ideal has survived in Rowling's twisted Commie mind.

The above is all true.

Actually, the bad guys are obviously based on the Nazis. If you think anyone's who's against Nazism is a communist, then you have very messed up views.

It has just come to my attention, after much careful thinking, that famous Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling must be a communist conspirator as well!

JK Rowling is an obvious Marxist, attempting to pollute the minds of our youth with Communist propaganda. Harry Potter is a dirty communist allegory. The "pure-blood" Slytherins represent the aristocracy, who believe that "magic" (i.e. capital) should be in the hands of a privileged elite. The "clever" Ravenclaws represent the bourgeoisie, who collude with the aristocracy in the suppression of the petty-bourgeois Hufflepuffs and the proletarian house-elves. The brave Gryffindors (who wear red Quidditch robes) and Dumbledore's Army represent the Communists and the Red Army respectively, as the true leaders of the proletariat.

Wise old Dumbledore, with his voluminous white beard, obviously stands for Karl Marx, while Harry Potter's glasses and untidy black hair make him identical to Leon Trotsky. Harry's lightning-bolt scar is in reference to the fatal head wound inflicted on Trotsky by Ramón Mercader with an ice pick. Harry survives this attack, just as the Totskyist ideal has survived in Rowling's twisted Commie mind.

The above is all true.

There are commies everywhere.

Meaning is interpretation, but I do not think that is what the author intended. Good observations, however, though I think you have a little too much time on your hands.

I'm pretty sure the puppetmaster of AF revealed himself in that Star Trek thread. So... Yeah.

I'm pretty sure the puppetmaster of AF revealed himself in that Star Trek thread. So... Yeah.

*Out of character* Just seeing if anyone was paying any attention.

Well, at the very least, she is a Social Democrat. She did work for Amnesty International, you know.

It's a coincidence. It's really supposed to be based off star wars.

i see your points and all i have to say is im sorry you have so much time on your hands to reconize such things. Also if you view who Voldemort (sp) and his army is than you have to agree that her version of 'communism' is much better than whatever "government styling' Harry is fighting against. Which seems to be a dictatorship. Then in that sense communism is better than a dictatorship in my eyes.

It has just come to my attention, after much careful thinking, that famous Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling must be a communist conspirator as well!

JK Rowling is an obvious Marxist, attempting to pollute the minds of our youth with Communist propaganda. Harry Potter is a dirty communist allegory. The "pure-blood" Slytherins represent the aristocracy, who believe that "magic" (i.e. capital) should be in the hands of a privileged elite. The "clever" Ravenclaws represent the bourgeoisie, who collude with the aristocracy in the suppression of the petty-bourgeois Hufflepuffs and the proletarian house-elves. The brave Gryffindors (who wear red Quidditch robes) and Dumbledore's Army represent the Communists and the Red Army respectively, as the true leaders of the proletariat.

Wise old Dumbledore, with his voluminous white beard, obviously stands for Karl Marx, while Harry Potter's glasses and untidy black hair make him identical to Leon Trotsky. Harry's lightning-bolt scar is in reference to the fatal head wound inflicted on Trotsky by Ramón Mercader with an ice pick. Harry survives this attack, just as the Totskyist ideal has survived in Rowling's twisted Commie mind.

The above is all true.

that's hilarious. i laughed my ass off.

you're joking, right? i tried this thing where i would post really stupid comments on youtube until someone realized i MUST be joking, and it took 2 months.

Nice idea ......

Makes a change from all the "Christian" bulldoodoo


*evangelist* :sniper:

Who cares? It's like slamming a three year old for sharing.

Okay...

So who's the sorting hat in all this?

Just to correct you, Rawling isn't a Communist. She is a libertarian, as her books clearly show. For example, she portrays the Ministry of Magic as corrupt (it routinely sends innocent people such as Sirius Black and Hagrid to Azkaban and lets the politically well-connected Lucius Malfoy and other elite Slytherans get away with their crimes), abusive of power, and incompetent (Fudge is portrayed as delusional and Scrimgeour is shown to abuse his power), which is the typical libertarian worldview. Secondly, in the 7th book, she portrays Voldemort as instituting "compulsory education" laws (which libertarians are the strongest opponents of). They also use gold and silver as money instead of fiat money created by the government out of thin air.

For more proof that Harry Potter is a libertarian series, see the search results for it at the libertarian website LewRockwell.com (http://www.google.com/custom?sa=Search&cof=LW%3A500%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.lewrockwell.com%2Flewroc1a.gif%3BLH%3A93%3BAH%3Acenter%3BAWFID%3 A65dad07a461e3427%3B&domains=lewrockwell.com&q=%22Harry+Potter%22&sitesearch=lewrockwell.com).

that's hilarious. i laughed my ass off.

you're joking, right? i tried this thing where i would post really stupid comments on youtube until someone realized i MUST be joking, and it took 2 months.

well, that's youtube. Most of the comments there are rather stupid.

Notice my face of care...........

Okay...

So who's the sorting hat in all this?

David Broder.

"Can't we all just get along?"

JK's one of us?
Damnit... but... she's such a shit writer! How can this be allowed?

far more valid and far more strongly argued than the star trek claim. You may just be right, and perhaps rowling does have commie ideals. Perhaps much of it is coincidental.

That being said, lay off the commies dude! The cold war is over, most people got over slandering communists long ago. Besideswhich, capitalism isnt perfect either, and is largely successful due to human greed which isnt one of our best qualities.

Actually, the bad guys are obviously based on the Nazis. If you think anyone's who's against Nazism is a communist, then you have very messed up views.

Could you provide some actual evidence for why it is Nazis instead of Communists?

People just interpose all these differnt big historic or literary motifs and themes on everything and just make huge, sweeping conclusions. You really either need to appreciate the books on their own merit or from an even more general standpoint of conservatives power-mongers attempting to restore/maintain the old ways. Really, it could fit with plenty of ideologic struggles.

It has just come to my attention, after much careful thinking, that famous Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling must be a communist conspirator as well!

JK Rowling is an obvious Marxist, attempting to pollute the minds of our youth with Communist propaganda. Harry Potter is a dirty communist allegory. The "pure-blood" Slytherins represent the aristocracy, who believe that "magic" (i.e. capital) should be in the hands of a privileged elite. The "clever" Ravenclaws represent the bourgeoisie, who collude with the aristocracy in the suppression of the petty-bourgeois Hufflepuffs and the proletarian house-elves. The brave Gryffindors (who wear red Quidditch robes) and Dumbledore's Army represent the Communists and the Red Army respectively, as the true leaders of the proletariat.

Wise old Dumbledore, with his voluminous white beard, obviously stands for Karl Marx, while Harry Potter's glasses and untidy black hair make him identical to Leon Trotsky. Harry's lightning-bolt scar is in reference to the fatal head wound inflicted on Trotsky by Ramón Mercader with an ice pick. Harry survives this attack, just as the Totskyist ideal has survived in Rowling's twisted Commie mind.

The above is all true.
Oh, this was a good one, Trostky. This one is actually believeable too, just like the Mario communist conspiracy!

y'know people who go around calling other people communists are usually just trying to cover up their own socialist tendencies...

It has just come to my attention, after much careful thinking, that famous Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling must be a communist conspirator as well!

JK Rowling is an obvious Marxist, attempting to pollute the minds of our youth with Communist propaganda. Harry Potter is a dirty communist allegory. The "pure-blood" Slytherins represent the aristocracy, who believe that "magic" (i.e. capital) should be in the hands of a privileged elite. The "clever" Ravenclaws represent the bourgeoisie, who collude with the aristocracy in the suppression of the petty-bourgeois Hufflepuffs and the proletarian house-elves. The brave Gryffindors (who wear red Quidditch robes) and Dumbledore's Army represent the Communists and the Red Army respectively, as the true leaders of the proletariat.

Wise old Dumbledore, with his voluminous white beard, obviously stands for Karl Marx, while Harry Potter's glasses and untidy black hair make him identical to Leon Trotsky. Harry's lightning-bolt scar is in reference to the fatal head wound inflicted on Trotsky by Ramón Mercader with an ice pick. Harry survives this attack, just as the Totskyist ideal has survived in Rowling's twisted Commie mind.

The above is all true.

Isn't Harry a rich kid though?

You're all wrong. Harry Potter is actually an analogy for The Lord of the Rings, which in turn describes the Second World War, which was actually a very extended metaphor for love.

Isn't Harry a rich kid though?

So was Lenin. Being rich doesn't make one immune to the disease of communism.

You're all wrong. Harry Potter is actually an analogy for The Lord of the Rings, which in turn describes the Second World War, which was actually a very extended metaphor for love.

The second world war was a metaphor for love??

....
*thinks over past relationships...*

I see your point.

So was Lenin. Being rich doesn't make one immune to the disease of communism.

I know! Concern for your fellow man? FILTH! :p

y'know people who go around calling other people communists are usually just trying to cover up their own socialist tendencies...

Oh Irony, Oh Irony, your voice is so SWEEEEET! [/tune of Star Spangled Banner]

Rowling is pretty definitely a leftist.

She has said that Jessica Mitford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Mitford) is a heroine of hers and a major influence... explicitly mentioning that Mitford held true to her socialist principles her entire life.

Not to mention that the Harry Potter books do actually have a pretty strong left-wing tinge to them.

Well, at the very least, she is a Social Democrat. She did work for Amnesty International, you know.

*cough*publicity*cough*

This is getting old; knock off spamming, Atlas Fountainhead

For example, she portrays the Ministry of Magic as corrupt (it routinely sends innocent people such as Sirius Black and Hagrid to Azkaban and lets the politically well-connected Lucius Malfoy and other elite Slytherans get away with their crimes),

Yes, right: it serves the wealthy and privileged. This is an old leftist critique of the establishment.

Note that she has no problem with the idea of Ministry reform... in interviews after Deathly Hallows was published, she said that Harry and Hermione actually do go about reforming things, with much success. They do so, she says, by attacking the old structures of privilege that elevate pure-bloods over Muggle-borns and wizards over other magical creatures. This is a fundamentally egalitarian message, one that plays directly into leftist anti-racist themes.

The pure-blood families, of course, are old, aristocratic, and very wealthy... while the most prominent "blood traitor" family we see, the Weasleys, are comparatively very poor.

Secondly, in the 7th book, she portrays Voldemort as instituting "compulsory education" laws (which libertarians are the strongest opponents of).

Yes, but her objection to the compulsory education laws isn't that they're compulsory... there's no one in Deathly Hallows decrying the deprivation of individual freedom they represent.

The problem is that Voldemort institutes them to intensify his hold over the Wizarding World and the bigoted policies he seeks to enforce.

They also use gold and silver as money instead of fiat money created by the government out of thin air.

Considering that wizards and goblins can use magic, gold and silver being non-fiat currencies is not clear at all... and anyway, I highly doubt that Rowling intended to make a political point with monetary policy.

Good greif in theory just about everything could be commie propaganda or Facisit propaganda. It's fiction people. It's a good work of fiction that's all

Nice idea ......

Makes a change from all the "Christian" bulldoodoo


*evangelist* :sniper:

*Equuilibrium* :sniper:

*cough*publicity*cough*

Eh? This went over my (admittedly short) head.

This is getting old; knock off spamming, Atlas Fountainhead
I don't think he's spamming; it was just a joke.
But I could be wrong. Please don't hurt me, O Merciful Mod.

Paul Bunyan killed Johnny Appleseed. :(

I don't think he's spamming; it was just a joke.
But I could be wrong. Please don't hurt me, O Merciful Mod.

Same joke twice in a week, and only five posts to his/her/its count? Hmmmm.
(note, was not an official as in, *THUMP! YOU'RE WARNED,* warning.)

Same joke twice in a week, and only five posts to his/her/its count? Hmmmm.
(note, was not an official as in, *THUMP! YOU'RE WARNED,* warning.)

Oh, I didn't know about the other "jokes." My mistake.

It has just come to my attention, after much careful thinking, that famous Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling must be a communist conspirator as well!

JK Rowling is an obvious Marxist, attempting to pollute the minds of our youth with Communist propaganda. Harry Potter is a dirty communist allegory. The "pure-blood" Slytherins represent the aristocracy, who believe that "magic" (i.e. capital) should be in the hands of a privileged elite. The "clever" Ravenclaws represent the bourgeoisie, who collude with the aristocracy in the suppression of the petty-bourgeois Hufflepuffs and the proletarian house-elves. The brave Gryffindors (who wear red Quidditch robes) and Dumbledore's Army represent the Communists and the Red Army respectively, as the true leaders of the proletariat.

Wise old Dumbledore, with his voluminous white beard, obviously stands for Karl Marx, while Harry Potter's glasses and untidy black hair make him identical to Leon Trotsky. Harry's lightning-bolt scar is in reference to the fatal head wound inflicted on Trotsky by Ramón Mercader with an ice pick. Harry survives this attack, just as the Totskyist ideal has survived in Rowling's twisted Commie mind.

The above is all true.
Dude, You got that like word for word from Uncyclopedia (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_%28Books%29#Marxist_interpretation)...and I posted it in your thread about Star Trek being Commie Propaganda

But that doesn't make it any less true

It has just come to my attention, after much careful thinking, that famous Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling must be a communist conspirator as well!

JK Rowling is an obvious Marxist, attempting to pollute the minds of our youth with Communist propaganda. Harry Potter is a dirty communist allegory. The "pure-blood" Slytherins represent the aristocracy, who believe that "magic" (i.e. capital) should be in the hands of a privileged elite. The "clever" Ravenclaws represent the bourgeoisie, who collude with the aristocracy in the suppression of the petty-bourgeois Hufflepuffs and the proletarian house-elves. The brave Gryffindors (who wear red Quidditch robes) and Dumbledore's Army represent the Communists and the Red Army respectively, as the true leaders of the proletariat.

Wise old Dumbledore, with his voluminous white beard, obviously stands for Karl Marx, while Harry Potter's glasses and untidy black hair make him identical to Leon Trotsky. Harry's lightning-bolt scar is in reference to the fatal head wound inflicted on Trotsky by Ramón Mercader with an ice pick. Harry survives this attack, just as the Totskyist ideal has survived in Rowling's twisted Commie mind.

The above is all true.

Dumbledore's Army=Red Army.... :p:confused:

Jeez, have you read all of the books?

It has just come to my attention, after much careful thinking, that famous Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling must be a communist conspirator as well!

JK Rowling is an obvious Marxist, attempting to pollute the minds of our youth with Communist propaganda. Harry Potter is a dirty communist allegory. The "pure-blood" Slytherins represent the aristocracy, who believe that "magic" (i.e. capital) should be in the hands of a privileged elite. The "clever" Ravenclaws represent the bourgeoisie, who collude with the aristocracy in the suppression of the petty-bourgeois Hufflepuffs and the proletarian house-elves. The brave Gryffindors (who wear red Quidditch robes) and Dumbledore's Army represent the Communists and the Red Army respectively, as the true leaders of the proletariat.

Wise old Dumbledore, with his voluminous white beard, obviously stands for Karl Marx, while Harry Potter's glasses and untidy black hair make him identical to Leon Trotsky. Harry's lightning-bolt scar is in reference to the fatal head wound inflicted on Trotsky by Ramón Mercader with an ice pick. Harry survives this attack, just as the Totskyist ideal has survived in Rowling's twisted Commie mind.

The above is all true.

Normally, I'd heap scorn and derision on you, but about a billion people have done so already. Epic fail.

Dude, You got that like word for word from Uncyclopedia (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_%28Books%29#Marxist_interpretation)...and I posted it in your thread about Star Wars being Commie Propaganda

But that doesn't make it any less true

That's Star Trek, not Star Wars. Star Wars isn't propaganda so much as it is pathetic crappy fantasy-in-space pretending to be science fiction that is liked by far more people than it deserves.

That's Star Trek, not Star Wars. Star Wars isn't propaganda so much as it is pathetic crappy fantasy-in-space pretending to be science fiction that is liked by far more people than it deserves.

Hey! Star Wars is a.... erm.... yeah, you're right... but I still love the Ewoks!

Yes, right: it serves the wealthy and privileged. This is an old leftist critique of the establishment.

Note that she has no problem with the idea of Ministry reform... in interviews after Deathly Hallows was published, she said that Harry and Hermione actually do go about reforming things, with much success. They do so, she says, by attacking the old structures of privilege that elevate pure-bloods over Muggle-borns and wizards over other magical creatures. This is a fundamentally egalitarian message, one that plays directly into leftist anti-racist themes.

The pure-blood families, of course, are old, aristocratic, and very wealthy... while the most prominent "blood traitor" family we see, the Weasleys, are comparatively very poor.

However, this was exactly the worldview of Classical Liberalism (the ideology of John Locke and Thomas Jefferson, as well as many others). The Jeffersonians and Jacksonians were trying to prevent the elitist plutocrats such as Alexander Hamiltion (and of course, the banks) from taking over America. Thomas Jefferson once said that he believed that banks were more dangerous than standing armies (and he'd know, as he had to deal with a British standing army that was oppressing the people of the 13 states). Jackson waged a Bank War to shut down the demon Bank that was robbing from the poor to give to the rich. Unlike many modern Libertarians, their Classical Liberal ancestors actually were merely interested in reforming government (for the most part). That was why they were strong advocates of democracy (well actually Constitutional Republicanism), whereas modern Libertarianism (or at least the Hoppean varient of Anarcho-Capitalism) rejects democracy as being even worse than monarchy (of course, this difference has alot to do with the difference in the attitudes of the populations, as democracy would work fine if the people were mostly Classical Liberals, as was the case at one time, but it leads to disaster when the people adopt other ideologies). The Harry Potter series is clearly more heavily influenced by Classical Liberalism, which advocated reforming government, than by modern Libertarianism, which usually advocates getting rid of government, but the 2 ideologies are extremely similar and Classical Liberalism is really just modern Libertarianism without the contributions of the last 100 years or so of thinkers in that tradition.

Yes, but her objection to the compulsory education laws isn't that they're compulsory... there's no one in Deathly Hallows decrying the deprivation of individual freedom they represent.

The problem is that Voldemort institutes them to intensify his hold over the Wizarding World and the bigoted policies he seeks to enforce.

However, as John Taylor Gatto has pointed out (http://johntaylorgatto.com), compulsory education laws actually began in the exact same manner in the United States in the 19th century. They were used by the Christian Right of the day (which consisted of almost all Protestants, with the exception of the Lutherans) and by Utopians to force their beliefs upon the Catholic immigrants.

Considering that wizards and goblins can use magic, gold and silver being non-fiat currencies is not clear at all... and anyway, I highly doubt that Rowling intended to make a political point with monetary policy.

Well, it is implied that the only magic that can artificially create gold is the Sorcerer's or Philosopher's Stone, of which the only one in the books is held by Nicholas Flemel and destroyed. Flemel was an actual person who lived in the Middle Ages (see his Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Flamel)), whom, according to medieval legend was the only person ever to acquire the Philosopher's Stone (which the medieval alchemists actually sought, though there is no actual way to achieve their goals). Clearly, gold and silver are not fiat currencies as there is (presumably) no other way to magically create gold and silver in the Harry Potter books except the Philosopher's Stone.

Nurse, nurse! Somebody's escaped from the wacky shack!

Though I disagree with the plebian fool who claims all fiction should be read and understood prima facie with a single layer narrative bereft of wider utility or significance, the notion that Dumbledore is Trotsky is too ludicrous to sustain.

Nurse, nurse! Somebody's escaped from the wacky shack!

Though I disagree with the plebian fool who claims all fiction should be read and understood prima facie with a single layer narrative bereft of wider utility or significance, the notion that Dumbledore is Trotsky is too ludicrous to sustain.

That be 'cause Dumbledore is Karl Marx. Not Trotsky. pfft.. I think Harry Potter was supposed to be Trotsky.

Yea.

The Harry Potter series is clearly more heavily influenced by Classical Liberalism, which advocated reforming government

Not remotely. We don't even know how the Ministry functions as a government... we don't know how the Minister is chosen, or whether there is a parliament, or whether it has separation of powers, or the degree to which it respects individual rights (outside of a very limited context.)

We do see its incompetence and its corruption, and its allegiance to the rich and powerful. We do see its bigotry.

This emphasis on "matter" over "form" is very often seen in leftist political theory. Much less so in liberal political theory, classical or otherwise.

but the 2 ideologies are extremely similar

No, they're not.

Crucially in this context, libertarianism as a political movement has always been about defending privilege (with a few rare, notable exceptions)... while, as you point out, at least parts of the classical liberal movement (the parts with which you claim Rowling might identify) railed insistently against privilege.

(Incidentally, Thomas Jefferson, like many of the classical liberals, was a much weaker advocate of property rights than many libertarians today.)

However, as John Taylor Gatto has pointed out (http://johntaylorgatto.com), compulsory education laws actually began in the exact same manner in the United States in the 19th century.

Who cares?

No one justifies them that way today, and indeed, the radical Christian Right has now become their enemy.

Well, it is implied that the only magic that can artificially create gold is the Sorcerer's or Philosopher's Stone, of which the only one in the books is held by Nicholas Flemel and destroyed.

Considering the number of plot holes that plague the books, this proves very little.

Note also that wizards covet the Philosopher's Stone--yet it is goblins who control wizarding banking. (And Gringotts holds a monopoly. Hardly the free competition of private banks that radical libertarians advocate.)

Clearly, gold and silver are not fiat currencies as there is (presumably) no other way to magically create gold and silver in the Harry Potter books except the Philosopher's Stone.

Do you really, honestly think that Rowling was thinking about ideal monetary policy when she used that standard fantasy cliche?

That be 'cause Dumbledore is Karl Marx. Not Trotsky. pfft.. I think Harry Potter was supposed to be Trotsky.

Yea.

But Trotsky rocked and Potter is... well... Potter...

That be 'cause Dumbledore is Karl Marx. Not Trotsky. pfft.. I think Harry Potter was supposed to be Trotsky.

Yea.

Oh, silly me. Now it makes perfect sense....

Actually, does that make Fred and George Kamenev and Zinoviev? And Percy Weasley Stalin?

Oh, silly me. Now it makes perfect sense....

Actually, does that make Fred and George Kamenev and Zinoviev? And Percy Weasley Stalin?

You are forgiven for your ignorance.

I am sure you can make a good argument for it. You may need to run it past whatever lazy cult makes up these conspiracy theories, but I am sure they will embrace you openly, with..open arms. In public.

But Trotsky rocked and Potter is... well... Potter...

The scar... You can't deny the scar on his head!

Just try it and you will be beaten to a bloody red(commie) pulp with copies of "The Deathly Hallows" and the "Manifesto".

The scar... You can't deny the scar on his head!

Just try it and you will be beaten to a bloody red(commie) pulp with copies of "The Deathly Hallows" and the "Manifesto".

Well true, but scars can be faked!!
Also.... I have no argument to go on this line because I'm too tired for coherent thinking now :D

Well true, but scars can be faked!!
Also.... I have no argument to go on this line because I'm too tired for coherent thinking now :D

Not lightning bolt shaped ones. Those are signs of geniune Zeus intervention.

I don't think any of this requires 'coherent' thinking. :p

I just noticed something. The original poster of this thread's username is "atlas fountainhead," so clearly this user is an Objectivist (a member of the authoritarian cult named Objectivism created by novelist Ayn Rand in the name of "reason" and "individualist"; see this article (http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard23.html)). It is difficult to debate with an Objectivist, as they really aren't as "rational" as they claim to be, nor do they really know what they are talking about (for example, Rand distorted what Immanuel Kant believed and then declared him to be the incarnation of evil itself, even though Kant was a very important Classical Liberal philosopher who didn't believe any of what she claimed he did and of course, he was dead and couldn't defend himself). Objectivists frequently defend immoral actions of the US government such as the Iraq Genocide (http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4367), torture (http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3681), the nuking of Japan (http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4379), and illegally spying (http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4524) upon the American people.

I just noticed something. The original poster of this thread's username is "atlas fountainhead," so clearly this user is an Objectivist

No, he's a left-wing anarchist. It's a joke.

It is difficult to debate with an Objectivist, as they really aren't as "rational" as they claim to be, nor do they really know what they are talking about

And that about sums it up. :)

This is getting old; knock off spamming, Atlas Fountainhead

*comes clean*

It's satire. I posted it because I thought it was funny, and I'm doing a test to see how many people think that I'm being serious.

Dude, You got that like word for word from Uncyclopedia (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_%28Books%29#Marxist_interpretation)...and I posted it in your thread about Star Trek being Commie Propaganda

But that doesn't make it any less true

I touched it up a bit, but yes, I got it from Uncyclopedia. It, plus Ruffy's thread, inspired me to start this experiment.

Same joke twice in a week, and only five posts to his/her/its count? Hmmmm.
(note, was not an official as in, *THUMP! YOU'RE WARNED,* warning.)Dude, You got that like word for word from Uncyclopedia (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_%28Books%29#Marxist_interpretation)
Troll puppet plus simple plagiarism? Apologies to my distinguished colleague, but let's bump that up to an Official Warning for Trolling.

*Out of character* Just seeing if anyone was paying any attention.
This is not an In-Character forum, and "Trolling" does not equal "Roleplay". For the record, the same warning has been applied both to Atlas Fountainhead and the puppetmaster nation of Trotskylvania.

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I just noticed something. The original poster of this thread's username is "atlas fountainhead," so clearly this user is an Objectivist (a member of the authoritarian cult named Objectivism created by novelist Ayn Rand in the name of "reason" and "individualist"; see this article (http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard23.html)). It is difficult to debate with an Objectivist, as they really aren't as "rational" as they claim to be, nor do they really know what they are talking about (for example, Rand distorted what Immanuel Kant believed and then declared him to be the incarnation of evil itself, even though Kant was a very important Classical Liberal philosopher who didn't believe any of what she claimed he did and of course, he was dead and couldn't defend himself). Objectivists frequently defend immoral actions of the US government such as the Iraq Genocide (http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4367), torture (http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3681), the nuking of Japan (http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4379), and illegally spying (http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4524) upon the American people.

I heard Objectivists only drink goats' blood, and they steal Communist babies from the cradle and replace them with their own.

That's Star Trek, not Star Wars. Star Wars isn't propaganda so much as it is pathetic crappy fantasy-in-space pretending to be science fiction that is liked by far more people than it deserves.
Cruel, but true. Star Wars was created as the ultimate modern myth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell#Campbell.27s_influence_upon_cinema), substance never really entered in the discussion.

It has just come to my attention, after much careful thinking, that famous Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling must be a communist conspirator as well!

JK Rowling is an obvious Marxist, attempting to pollute the minds of our youth with Communist propaganda. Harry Potter is a dirty communist allegory. The "pure-blood" Slytherins represent the aristocracy, who believe that "magic" (i.e. capital) should be in the hands of a privileged elite. The "clever" Ravenclaws represent the bourgeoisie, who collude with the aristocracy in the suppression of the petty-bourgeois Hufflepuffs and the proletarian house-elves. The brave Gryffindors (who wear red Quidditch robes) and Dumbledore's Army represent the Communists and the Red Army respectively, as the true leaders of the proletariat.

Wise old Dumbledore, with his voluminous white beard, obviously stands for Karl Marx, while Harry Potter's glasses and untidy black hair make him identical to Leon Trotsky. Harry's lightning-bolt scar is in reference to the fatal head wound inflicted on Trotsky by Ramón Mercader with an ice pick. Harry survives this attack, just as the Totskyist ideal has survived in Rowling's twisted Commie mind.

The above is all true.

Well if she is a communist then she's certainly not a secular one cause the seventh book had bible verses in it. Also not all slytherins are bad....

I'll tell you what's really commie propoganda, road signs....

Rowling is pretty definitely a leftist.

She has said that Jessica Mitford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Mitford) is a heroine of hers and a major influence... explicitly mentioning that Mitford held true to her socialist principles her entire life.

Not to mention that the Harry Potter books do actually have a pretty strong left-wing tinge to them.

I knew that she was kinda leftist in her leanings, but I had no idea that one of her biggest heroines was Jessica Mitford. Learn something new everyday.

far more valid and far more strongly argued than the star trek claim. You may just be right, and perhaps rowling does have commie ideals. Perhaps much of it is coincidental.

That being said, lay off the commies dude! The cold war is over, most people got over slandering communists long ago. Besideswhich, capitalism isnt perfect either, and is largely successful due to human greed which isnt one of our best qualities.

You can rely on a man's weaknesses more than you can on his strengths - Alexandre Duma, The Three Musketeers.

Not lightning bolt shaped ones. Those are signs of geniune Zeus intervention.

I don't think any of this requires 'coherent' thinking. :p

I meant more along the lines of "Aaaaagh! My brain is liquefying!" than "I'm not sure I could contemplate the meaning of life tonight..."
But it's true, also, ZOMG! I forgot about the holy "Zeus woz 'ere" scars...


*comes clean*

It's satire. I posted it because I thought it was funny, and I'm doing a test to see how many people think that I'm being serious.

I know your game! tricking us into thinking it's all a joke so you can rain doom upon us all! YOU FIEND!


I'll tell you what's really commie propoganda, road signs....

I HAVE to steal that for a sig...