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I, for one, am getting tired of the phrase "i, for one"...

Hydesland
30-09-2007, 20:40
I mean, what the fuck is the point of adding 'for one' after 'I' all the time? Does it actually add/change any meaning to a sentence other then to elongate it?

I have decided to create a new law, and I shall call it Hydesland's Law:

'After every instance of the term 'I, for one' being used by a poster, his/her credibility tends to 0'

What do you think?
Johnny B Goode
30-09-2007, 20:44
Hmph. Does sound a bit pretentious, though.
Upper Botswavia
30-09-2007, 20:45
I mean, what the fuck is the point of adding 'for one' after 'I' all the time? Does it actually add/change any meaning to a sentence other then to elongate it?

I have decided to create a new law, and I shall call it Hydesland's Law:

'After every instance of the term 'I, for one' being used by a poster, his/her credibility tends to 0'

What do you think?

I, for one (meaning that I emphasize that this is my opinion and not necessarily anyone elses), think that this is not that big a deal.

It actually DOES change a sentence a bit, putting more power behind the idea that the speaker is specifically stating his or her own thoughts, not those of any group.
Hydesland
30-09-2007, 20:47
I, for one (meaning that I emphasize that this is my opinion and not necessarily anyone elses), think that this is not that big a deal.

It actually DOES change a sentence a bit, putting more power behind the idea that the speaker is specifically stating his or her own thoughts, not those of any group.

Surely saying "I think" or "I believe" or I anything will force you to automatically assume that this is you speaking only for yourself.
New Stalinberg
30-09-2007, 20:49
I mean, what the fuck is the point of adding 'for one' after 'I' all the time? Does it actually add/change any meaning to a sentence other then to elongate it?

I have decided to create a new law, and I shall call it Hydesland's Law:

'After every instance of the term 'I, for one' being used by a poster, his/her credibility tends to 0'

What do you think?

I for one, belive your wrong.

The USSNS will now be declaring war on you.

Quarter for no one.
Infinite Revolution
30-09-2007, 20:49
i for one don't give a fuck usually. personaly i prefer to use alternative thingies.
Infinite Revolution
30-09-2007, 20:50
Surely saying "I think" or "I believe" or I anything will force you to automatically assume that this is you speaking only for yourself.

not on this forum it doesn't.
Hydesland
30-09-2007, 20:51
not on this forum it doesn't.

Good point
Dexlysia
30-09-2007, 20:53
http://i24.tinypic.com/algdol.jpg.
Hydesland
30-09-2007, 20:57
http://i24.tinypic.com/algdol.jpg.

Dexlysia shall be sentanced to death by burning for heretical crimes against the fundamentals of thy holy Hydesland's law.
Tekania
30-09-2007, 20:57
I mean, what the fuck is the point of adding 'for one' after 'I' all the time? Does it actually add/change any meaning to a sentence other then to elongate it?

I have decided to create a new law, and I shall call it Hydesland's Law:

'After every instance of the term 'I, for one' being used by a poster, his/her credibility tends to 0'

What do you think?

I, for one, agree with every option in the poll.
Dexlysia
30-09-2007, 20:59
Dexlysia shall be sentanced to death by burning for heretical crimes against the fundamentals of thy holy Hydesland's law.

Yay!
I've never been singled out as a heretic before.
Hydesland
30-09-2007, 21:00
Its from the Simpsons 'I for one weclome our new insect overlords' or words to that effect. Relax.

The simpsons created that meme!!!?!?!

Well anyway, the problem is that it's not just being used in welcoming our new overlords, but all the time, as if it were a standard use of English writing in a sentence.
Nodinia
30-09-2007, 21:01
I mean, what the fuck is the point of adding 'for one' after 'I' all the time? Does it actually add/change any meaning to a sentence other then to elongate it?

I have decided to create a new law, and I shall call it Hydesland's Law:

'After every instance of the term 'I, for one' being used by a poster, his/her credibility tends to 0'

What do you think?

Its from the Simpsons 'I for one weclome our new insect overlords' or words to that effect. Relax.
Ashmoria
30-09-2007, 21:08
its so not important to me that i dont remember it ever being used outside this thread.
Dinaverg
30-09-2007, 21:17
Speaking of...I, for one, welcome our new parenthetically-phrased overlords.

*nods*
Heikoku
30-09-2007, 21:17
I, for one, voted in all options in the poll.
Dinaverg
30-09-2007, 21:25
I, for one, voted in all options in the poll.

We, for two, seem to have done the same thing.
Howinder
30-09-2007, 21:36
I, for one, really don't give a flying fuck. Having said that the next time my boss says 'Having said that...' I'm going to kick him in the head.
Bann-ed
30-09-2007, 22:10
its so not important to me that i dont remember it ever being used outside this thread.

I, for one, and only one, as an individual, acting solely on my own initiative, as a sovereign entity, agree.
Nodinia
30-09-2007, 22:28
Its from "Deep space Homer"
"Ladies and gentlemen, uh, we've just lost the picture, but what we've seen speaks for itself. The Corvair spacecraft has apparently been taken over -- 'conquered' if you will -- by a master race of giant space ants. It's difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive earth men or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves."
Splintered Yootopia
30-09-2007, 22:32
http://i24.tinypic.com/algdol.jpg
To be honest, most grammar fascists tend to look more like this -

http://www.psywarrior.com/mussolini2.jpg
Murder City Jabbers
30-09-2007, 22:32
Hmph. Does sound a bit pretentious, though.

Or is it redundant?
Moleland 2
30-09-2007, 22:36
Calm down, it's only a commercial :confused:
Infinite Revolution
30-09-2007, 22:40
i'm pretty sure the expression was in use long before the simpsons was ever aired.
GBrooks
30-09-2007, 22:47
I, for one, am getting tired of the phrase "i, for one"...
I know what you mean. At the end of the day, I really hate the phrase "at the end of the day."
Splintered Yootopia
30-09-2007, 22:48
i'm pretty sure the expression was in use long before the simpsons was ever aired.
Pfft. Lies.
Jello Biafra
30-09-2007, 22:49
I, for one, think Hydesland should dance for us.
Dexlysia
30-09-2007, 22:56
To be honest, most grammar fascists tend to look more like this -
http://www.psywarrior.com/mussolini2.jpg
http://i21.tinypic.com/fvjimr.jpg
?
Johnny B Goode
30-09-2007, 23:39
Or is it redundant?

Yeah, that too. It just seems sort of pretentious, bombastic, the kind of thing a guy with a big voice would say talking about politics.
New Limacon
30-09-2007, 23:42
I don't like "I, for one..." because everything I says reflects the beliefs of every single person on the planet. "I, for all..." makes more sense.
Greater Trostia
01-10-2007, 00:20
In Soviet Russia, one is for YOU!
Batuni
01-10-2007, 02:14
Yeah, that too. It just seems sort of pretentious, bombastic, the kind of thing a guy with a big voice would say talking about politics.

Oh my, yes! Let us remove all traces of words or phrases that suggest that the speaker might, possibly, have been educated at some point!

Clearly spelling and grammar are only tools of the elite to keep the working man/woman/aardvark down!
Layarteb
01-10-2007, 02:18
I mean, what the fuck is the point of adding 'for one' after 'I' all the time? Does it actually add/change any meaning to a sentence other then to elongate it?

I have decided to create a new law, and I shall call it Hydesland's Law:

'After every instance of the term 'I, for one' being used by a poster, his/her credibility tends to 0'

What do you think?

The phrase comes off rather pompous but so would your law. Why not just slap them the next time someone says it? We really need to go back to dueling.
Katganistan
01-10-2007, 02:50
At the end of the day, I, for one, am against stylistic facism.
Hydesland
01-10-2007, 17:33
I know what you mean. At the end of the day, I really hate the phrase "at the end of the day."

I agree! That phrase is like a kick in the balls every time I hear it!
Nodinia
01-10-2007, 18:30
'A game of two halves....'
AnarchyeL
01-10-2007, 20:43
I mean, what the fuck is the point of adding 'for one' after 'I' all the time? Does it actually add/change any meaning to a sentence other then to elongate it?After seeing this post a few days ago, I became curious.

I rarely catch myself using the phrase, though I'm sure I do. I've thought very carefully about the sense it seems to give to a statement, and after reaching a tentative conclusion I have performed a casual content analysis (entirely Internet based) that tends to confirm my conclusion.

While some people overuse the phrase and to that extend erode its meaning, in general the sense of the phrase seems to be effectively this: "start the polls, and count my vote."

In other words, if I say, "I think that linguistic analysis is fun," you are correct to point out that this more than adequately expresses both that I do, in fact, think that linguistic analysis is fun AND that I am not claiming any such thought for anyone else.

But the sense of "I, for one," is not so much to exclude my opinion from that of others--rather (and somewhat paradoxically), it is to emphasize that this is not a "closed" thought but one to which I openly and actively invite a response: when I say, "I, for one, think that linguistic analysis is fun," I am not only expressing my opinion. I am asking others to express theirs as well.

The paradox, if there is one, lies in the fact that far too many people only invite other opinions when they believe they do speak for a group--or at least "a" group--so that their opinion will be seconded, confirmed, reinforced. This is not a necessary part of the intention of the phrase, however--indeed, I am rather sure that when I have used the phrase it has been more to spark debate than to request confirmation... as when I say things like, "I, for one, favor abortions well into the fourth trimester."

;)
AnarchyeL
01-10-2007, 20:46
We, for two, seem to have done the same thing.This actually captures the real sense of the phrase, "I, for one": it is looking for "twos and threes," or at least asking "are there any others out there?" A simple declaration, while it may incite response, does not necessarily ask for it. The point of "I, for one," is to ask for a response.
Soheran
01-10-2007, 21:05
This is not a necessary part of the intention of the phrase, however--indeed, I am rather sure that when I have used the phrase it has been more to spark debate than to request confirmation...

To me this sounds like the more "natural" use of the phrase.

It is the sort of thing a person says against the crowd: "I, for (at least) one, even if there is nobody else."
Johnny B Goode
01-10-2007, 22:22
Oh my, yes! Let us remove all traces of words or phrases that suggest that the speaker might, possibly, have been educated at some point!

Clearly spelling and grammar are only tools of the elite to keep the working man/woman/aardvark down!

Jeez, I didn't mean it that way. I didn't propose complete lack of spelling and grammar.
The Gay Street Militia
02-10-2007, 01:15
I mean, what the fuck is the point of adding 'for one' after 'I' all the time? Does it actually add/change any meaning to a sentence other then to elongate it?

I have decided to create a new law, and I shall call it Hydesland's Law:

'After every instance of the term 'I, for one' being used by a poster, his/her credibility tends to 0'

What do you think?


"In my opinion" (or "IMO") is just as bad, too. If you're stating it, obviously it's your opinion that it's true. "In my opinion, George Bush is a redneck hick" is grammatical trash. Just say "George Bush is a redneck hick," and there, you've stated 'your opinion.'
Agerias
02-10-2007, 01:27
snippity doodah
I, for one, welcome our new linguistic analyzing anarchist overlord.
Hammurab
02-10-2007, 01:28
I, for one?

I thought it was for the square root of negative one...

wait, that's i, sorry....
Katganistan
02-10-2007, 01:28
"In my opinion" (or "IMO") is just as bad, too. If you're stating it, obviously it's your opinion that it's true. "In my opinion, George Bush is a redneck hick" is grammatical trash. Just say "George Bush is a redneck hick," and there, you've stated 'your opinion.'

Actually, that could be interpreted as a statement of fact, as opposed to, "I believe George Bush is a redneck hick."