NationStates Jolt Archive

What does freedom mean to you? Below is a test that attempts to answer this for you. Feel free to post your results, your own views, and why you think others' definitions are crap.


Are there any ideologies or schools of thought that are openly against freedom? They all seem to be for it. If one says the police should be very small it is because of freedom of privacy but if someone else says the police should be big, it is to protect freedoms from crime. If someone says wealth distribution should be based on need it is because of the freedom of developing your own enjoyment of work and not be subjected to poverty but then someone says the complete opposite, saying wealth should the distributed on the basis of merit to give people freedom to work hard to earn money and have responsibility for their own actions. What exactly is freedom? Having completely nothing in your way? Having somebody to step in and protect your freedom? Everyone seems to be for it. Is that possible? Well, this test hopes to answer these questions and measure your attitude to liberty. We are all for it, but what sort of liberty are you after? What is more important? The liberty from something or the liberty to do something? There are two variables, positive and negative liberty. The freedom to and the freedom from. Max positive and negative is anarcho communism, minimum positive and negate is fascism, max positive and minimum negative is totalitarianism and max negative and minimum positive is anarcho capitalism. The 12 other categories were somewhere in between those four corners. How do you respond to what all politicians promise...liberty?

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/8341260421249138141/Liberty

My score: Social Liberalism
You scored 75Positive, 58 Negative!

You believe that society need to be free, open and fair and the government should be limited in personal life. You think that wealth should distributed to promote fairness and opportunity and that equality is important. To you, liberty is the freedom to living your own life how you want and being given the chance to succeed.

You believe the government needs strict control over society to preserve the social order and community rights. You think that change is dangerous and that a strong moral leadership is needed. To you, liberty is the freedom from chaos and disorder and the rights over the community over selfishness.

That´s what I got.

Classical Liberalism
You scored 50 Positive, 70 Negative!

You believe the state should be limited, allowing individuals to pursue their own way of life without expectations from society. You think a free market and choice on how to lead your own life are very important. To you, liberty is the freedom to lead your own life how you want to and work towards your own goals.


Like most political tests/quizzes/etc., this one seem only to distinguish between the State and radical hermit individualism. I wished that many of the questions were multiple choice, so I could select some sort of "collectively administered, but not by the state" combination. As such, I'm pretty sure that "Classical Liberalism" is not an accurate answer; assuming I understand how this quiz works, neither my Positive or Negative scores are nearly high enough. Never mind that the distinction between "negative" and "positive" rights is extremely dubious, if not an outright false dichotomy...

EDIT: Although, having now read the quiz author's description/intro, a more accurate result appears possible. Let's try this again...

EDIT:
Social Liberalism
You scored 58Positive, 66 Negative!

You believe that society need to be free, open and fair and the government should be limited in personal life. You think that wealth should distributed to promote fairness and opportunity and that equality is important. To you, liberty is the freedom to living your own life how you want and being given the chance to succeed.


Meh again.

Your Score: Radical
You scored 54Positive, 83 Negative!

You believe everybody should be free, without any restrictions on how they want to live their life. You think that rules and regulations should be limited as much as possible and equality and fairness should be founding principles. To you, liberty is the freedom without barriers to how you should live your life and the freedom to equality of opportunity. "Radical?!" Most of my answers were in favor of how things already seem to be (in the US)...maybe a bit less regulation and more "keep your mitts off my stuff" in my answers, but hardly what I'd call radical!

"Your Score: Communitarian

You scored 62Positive, 45 Negative!
You believe that community rights is the more important aspect of society and that a intervening state is important to promote stability. You think that actions need to be regulated to not disrupt society and that public services need to be owned collectively for the greater good. To you, liberty is the freedom from chaos and disorder and the freedom of society to pursue the greater good."

Sounds too totalitarian to me. And WTF is "the greater good"? Could be used as an excuse for almost everything.

I question the integrity of this test. I somehow don't think the complexity and forethought this issue requires can be adequately express on OkCupid.

Your Score: Communitarian
You scored 75Positive, 45 Negative!

You believe that community rights is the more important aspect of society and that a intervening state is important to promote stability. You think that actions need to be regulated to not disrupt society and that public services need to be owned collectively for the greater good. To you, liberty is the freedom from chaos and disorder and the freedom of society to pursue the greater good.

Meh I guess.

it won't give me resaults without signing up and or accepting their cookies. this is an unacceptable violation of my freedom of privacy and annonymity.

=^^=
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Your Score: Clasical Liberalism
You scored 41Positive, 75 Negative!

You belive the state should be limited, allowing individuals to pursue their own way of life without expectations from society. You think a free market and choice on how to lead your own life are very important. To you, liberty is the freedom to lead your own life how you want to and work towards your own goals.
My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:

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You scored higher than 99% on Positive
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You scored higher than 99% on Negative

I don't know if I agree with this. I chose pretty high support for state-funded education and medical care, and a little bit for social security.

You scored 79Positive, 41 Negative!
You believe that all property should be collectively owned and that community rights are the most important. You think that everybody should be equal and that the collective aim is more important than the individual. To you, liberty is the freedom to pursue a life free from selfishness and being able to work for the greater good.

My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:

You scored higher than 99% on Positive

You scored higher than 99% on Negative



Meh. It seems that the test either results in radical libertarianism or socialism.

Your Score: Socialism
You scored 87Positive, 62 Negative!

You believe in the common good and the fair redistribution of wealth. You think that equality and freedom are two parts of the same condition and that communal ownership is essential for a fair society. To you, liberty is the freedom from poverty and hardship and freedom from hierarchy and control.

meh, but the last line is quite true.

Your Score: Social Liberalism
You scored 62Positive, 70 Negative!

You believe that society need to be free, open and fair and the government should be limited in personal life. You think that wealth should distributed to promote fairness and opportunity and that equality is important. To you, liberty is the freedom to living your own life how you want and being given the chance to succeed.

Your Score: Socialism
You scored 100Positive, 70 Negative!

You believe in the common good and the fair redistribution of wealth. You think that equality and freedom are two parts of the same condition and that communal ownership is essential for a fair society. To you, liberty is the freedom from poverty and hardship and freedom from hierarchy and control.

Being the hard left-winger I am, I find this is pretty close. I have been called a pinko-commie, so this result doesn't surprise me, though I don't favour communal living or pooling of resources, while I favour a system that aids people in living a decent life and being above the poverty line, with big business coming second to the welfare of people.

I got 16 Positive and 100 negative, but that's mainly because the quiz sucks. Just because I don't believe in the legitimacy of the modern nation-state and feel that it is a destructive influence that would be best done away with, doesn't mean that I want to hop on a go-cart Road Warrior-style and ride about shooting my neighbors in the face with an AK-47.
Well, I kind of do, but that has more to do with my curiosity about how wearing assless chaps in 110 degree weather feels than my political beliefs.

Your Score: Communism
You scored 100Positive, 45 Negative!

You believe that all property should be collectively owned and that community rights are the most important. You think that everybody should be equal and that the collective aim is more important than the individual. To you, liberty is the freedom to pursue a life free from selfishness and being able to work for the greater good.

Heh... Sounds about right actually... though I never would've considered myself as communist before. Ah well =D

Your Score: Socialism
You scored 91Positive, 66 Negative!

You believe in the common good and the fair redistribution of wealth. You think that equality and freedom are two parts of the same condition and that communal ownership is essential for a fair society. To you, liberty is the freedom from poverty and hardship and freedom from hierarchy and control.


Boss :cool:

I can't play. :( I'm not giving them my e-mail address so I can get more SPAM.:(

Your Score: Radical
You scored 58Positive, 79 Negative!

You believe everybody should be free, without any restrictions on how they want to live their life. You think that rules and regulations should be limited as much as possible and equality and fairness should be founding principles. To you, liberty is the freedom without barriers to how you should live your life and the freedom to equality of opportunity.
My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:

free online dating free online dating
You scored higher than 99% on Positive
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You scored higher than 99% on Negative

I can't play. :( I'm not giving them my e-mail address so I can get more SPAM.:(

i didn't give them mine and yet i played.

I can't play. :( I'm not giving them my e-mail address so I can get more SPAM.:(

Getting a username is OPTIONAL.

Your Score: Ultra Liberalism
You scored 33Positive, 83 Negative!

You strongly believe in civil rights and the freedom to pursue your own ideals. You think that the government has not business at all in your life and you should be able to lead it however you like. The only function of the government should be to provide equality of opportunity for everybody to pursue their own way of life. To you, liberty is the freedom from coercion or limitation and the right to pursue on your own interests.

Well, I kind of do, but that has more to do with my curiosity about how wearing assless chaps in 110 degree weather feels than my political beliefs.

It's not that great. :p

Your Score: Social Liberalism
You scored 54Positive, 58 Negative!

You believe that society need to be free, open and fair and the government should be limited in personal life. You think that wealth should distributed to promote fairness and opportunity and that equality is important. To you, liberty is the freedom to living your own life how you want and being given the chance to succeed.
My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:
You scored higher than 99% on Positive
You scored higher than 99% on Negative

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Now, how is this possible?

My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:
You scored higher than 99% on Positive
You scored higher than 99% on Negative

Socialism
You scored 91Positive, 62 Negative!

You believe in the common good and the fair redistribution of wealth. You think that equality and freedom are two parts of the same condition and that communal ownership is essential for a fair society. To you, liberty is the freedom from poverty and hardship and freedom from hierarchy and control.

not bad.

I question the integrity of this test. I somehow don't think the complexity and forethought this issue requires can be adequately express on OkCupid.
The guy who wrote the test couldn't spell "exactly" correctly. I question whether he has been given an education that is "esactly" great.

Your Score: Capital Anarchism

You scored 0Positive, 87 Negative!

You believe any aspect of social control is dangerous and infringes on the rights of the individual. You think that any sort of control is oppressing and that everybody should only be responsible for them self. To you, liberty is the freedom without constriction or control. You own what you want and you do what you want. What others think it not important.

The guy who wrote the test couldn't spell "exactly" correctly. I question whether he has been given an education that is "esactly" great.
One might even say that he took a few liberties with the spelling.

I think I should probably go shoot myself for that one.

Your Score: Social Liberalism
You scored 75Positive, 58 Negative!

You believe that society need to be free, open and fair and the government should be limited in personal life. You think that wealth should distributed to promote fairness and opportunity and that equality is important. To you, liberty is the freedom to living your own life how you want and being given the chance to succeed.

One might even say that he took a few liberties with the spelling.

I think I should probably go shoot myself for that one.
Haha. Man, you should get a cookie for that pun.

Your Score: Capital Anarchism

You scored 0Positive, 87 Negative!

You believe any aspect of social control is dangerous and infringes on the rights of the individual. You think that any sort of control is oppressing and that everybody should only be responsible for them self. To you, liberty is the freedom without constriction or control. You own what you want and you do what you want. What others think it not important.

Lol, the exact same score:

Your Score: Capital Anarchism
You scored 0Positive, 87 Negative!

You believe any aspect of social control is dangerous and infringes on the rights of the individual. You think that any sort of control is oppressing and that everybody should only be responsible for them self. To you, liberty is the freedom without constriction or control. You own what you want and you do what you want. What others think it not important.

Your Score: Clasical Liberalism
You scored 37Positive, 66 Negative!

You belive the state should be limited, allowing individuals to pursue their own way of life without expectations from society. You think a free market and choice on how to lead your own life are very important. To you, liberty is the freedom to lead your own life how you want to and work towards your own goals.


I can live with this.

Yay, I'm a radical!

Your Score: Social Liberalism
You scored 58Positive, 58 Negative!

You believe that society need to be free, open and fair and the government should be limited in personal life. You think that wealth should distributed to promote fairness and opportunity and that equality is important. To you, liberty is the freedom to living your own life how you want and being given the chance to succeed.

My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:

You scored higher than 32% on Positive
You scored higher than 50% on Negative

Not too far off.

Well, absolutely no surprise.


Your Score: Socialism
You scored 83 Positive, 58 Negative!
You believe in the common good and the fair redistribution of wealth. You think that equality and freedom are two parts of the same condition and that communal ownership is essential for a fair society. To you, liberty is the freedom from poverty and hardship and freedom from hierarchy and control.

it won't give me resaults without signing up and or accepting their cookies. this is an unacceptable violation of my freedom of privacy and annonymity.

=^^=
.../\...I had no problem. But since I'm on a public library computer, I don't give a damn about cookies. And I've already given up my right to be free from unwarranted and unreasonable search and seizure. Gotta love that Patriot Act.

Your Score: Communitarian
You scored 58Positive, 50 Negative!

I would never use that word to describe myself but when it comes to view on freedom it could be right. I think freedom without the ability to use it is only empty words that make no difference. Freedom to fly is worthless without the ability to do so. Freedom to buy a house is worthless without the ability to do so. So maybe I do see the communitarian idea of helping people do what they want as a more real form of freedom then just telling them they are allowed to do what they want.

But I don't like the communitarian ideas of running things collectively. I think the government should only run inevitable monopolies like law and water supply. I think the government should subsidize instead of run anything the market can't pay for like universal education and health care.


Whats worse than all the spelling errors is question 11. The opposite of the first option "Industry should be communaly owned to ensure everybody is guranteed eqaul access to resources" should have been "Everything should be privately owned, even public services.". The opposite of the last option "Nobody should have to share resource, what you earn is only yours" should have been "Nobody should own more then anyone else, all resources should be shared equally.".

Your Score: Libertarianism

You scored 0 Positive, 75 Negative!

You strongly believe in a free market economy, without any government intervention and limited intervention in social life. To you, liberty is the freedom to work hard for your own benefit and to have total control over your own property. Liberty should also be promoted outside of economics, emphasizing individual rights.

I think it's good that someone made a test like this, but the execution is not ideal. A zero for positive liberty is probably not accurate, but down to the wording of some questions.

Conservatism
41 Positive
45 negative

You believe there should be moral guidelines in place for society to work well and that any change should be slow to ensure order. You think that the government should mostly stay out of the economy and that it is mostly down to the individual. To you, liberty is the freedom to be able to pursue your own interests in a stable society and getting rewarded for your own hard work.

Me.

Communitarian
You scored 58Positive, 50 Negative!

You believe that community rights is the more important aspect of society and that a intervening state is important to promote stability. You think that actions need to be regulated to not disrupt society and that public services need to be owned collectively for the greater good. To you, liberty is the freedom from chaos and disorder and the freedom of society to pursue the greater good.

Note: Not a communist.

fasdfs:sniper:

I couldn't take that test. I got to the third or fourth question and got fed up. I believe freedom is a seven letter word that too many people take for granted while many more seem ignorant to the fact the F section Webster's dictionary doesn't need defending from the Ts.

Your Score: Libertarianism
You scored: 4 Positive, 75 Negative!

You strongly believe in a free market economy, without any government intervention and limited intervention in social life. To you, liberty is the freedom to work hard for your own benefit and to have total control over your own property. Liberty should also be promoted outside of economics, emphasizing individual rights.

Your Score: Establishmentarian

You scored 75 Positive, 16 Negative!

You believe the government needs strict control over society to preserve the social order and community rights. You think that change is dangerous and that a strong moral leadership is needed. To you, liberty is the freedom from chaos and disorder and the rights over the community over selfishness.

You scored higher than 99% on Positive
You scored higher than 99% on Negative

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This is actually what I think. HUZZAH!

Your Score: Fascism
You scored 8Positive, 16 Negative!

You belive that human behavior needs to be tightly controlled to maintain an orderly society. To you, order and stability allow liberty from chaos and disorder. You think that liberty is the freedom from the ravages of nature and the freedom of society to function.

Freedom is ultimately frivolous, but order and stability are extremely valuable. I guess that just affirms what I've already known.

Your Score: Capital Anarchism

You scored 4 Positive, 79 Negative!

You believe any aspect of social control is dangerous and infringes on the rights of the individual. You think that any sort of control is oppressing and that everybody should only be responsible for them self. To you, liberty is the freedom without constriction or control. You own what you want and you do what you want. What others think it not important.
My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:
You scored higher than 99% on Positive
You scored higher than 99% on Negative

Awesome.

Your Score: Social Liberalism
You scored 66Positive, 58 Negative!

You believe that society need to be free, open and fair and the government should be limited in personal life. You think that wealth should distributed to promote fairness and opportunity and that equality is important. To you, liberty is the freedom to living your own life how you want and being given the chance to succeed.

I thought that this was about right.

Your Score: Fascism
You scored 16 Positive, 4 Negative!

You believe that human behavior needs to be tightly controlled to maintain an orderly society. To you, order and stability allow liberty from chaos and disorder. You think that liberty is the freedom from the ravages of nature and the freedom of society to function.

You scored 20Positive, 70 Negative!

You strongly believe in a free market economy, without any government intervention and limited intervention in social life. To you, liberty is the freedom to work hard for your own benefit and to have total control over your own property. Liberty should also be promoted outside of economics, emphasizing individual rights.

Your Score: Fascism
You scored 4 Positive, 12 Negative!
You belive that human behavior needs to be tightly controlled to maintain an orderly society. To you, order and stability allow liberty from chaos and disorder. You think that liberty is the freedom from the ravages of nature and the freedom of society to function.

My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:

You scored higher than 99% on Positive

You scored higher than 99% on Negative

Your Score: Ultra Liberalism You scored 41Positive, 83 Negative

You strongly believe in civil rights and the freedom to pursue your own ideals. You think that the government has not business at all in your life and you should be able to lead it however you like. The only function of the government should be to provide equality of opportunity for everybody to pursue their own way of life. To you, liberty is the freedom from coercion or limitation and the right to pursue on your own interests.

My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:

You scored higher than 99% on Positive

You scored higher than 99% on Negative

This is classic liberalism - not the socialist nonsense that's called liberalism today. This is what the Democrats used to be and are no longer and what the Republicans claim to be and never were.

Libertarianism
You scored 4Positive, 75 Negative!

You strongly believe in a free market economy, without any government intervention and limited intervention in social life. To you, liberty is the freedom to work hard for your own benefit and to have total control over your own property. Liberty should also be promoted outside of economics, emphasizing individual rights.

Your Score: Classical Liberalism
You scored 37Positive, 70 Negative!

You believe the state should be limited, allowing individuals to pursue their own way of life without expectations from society. You think a free market and choice on how to lead your own life are very important. To you, liberty is the freedom to lead your own life how you want to and work towards your own goals.

Yet another "well duh" moment in the life of Keruvalia:

Your Score: Socialism

You scored 100 Positive, 58 Negative!

You believe in the common good and the fair redistribution of wealth. You think that equality and freedom are two parts of the same condition and that communal ownership is essential for a fair society. To you, liberty is the freedom from poverty and hardship and freedom from hierarchy and control.

I mean ... come on ... do you *really* need to keep asking me this?

:p

Your Score: Social Liberalism
You scored 62 Positive, 75 Negative!

You believe that society need to be free, open and fair and the government should be limited in personal life. You think that wealth should distributed to promote fairness and opportunity and that equality is important. To you, liberty is the freedom to living your own life how you want and being given the chance to succeed.



Sounds about right (note that my nation does NOT reflect my views -- I'm purposely curtailing freedoms in SimNewtonia). Boy does the test creator need to learn how to spell and use grammar :p.

You strongly believe in a free market economy, without any government intervention and limited intervention in social life. To you, liberty is the freedom to work hard for your own benefit and to have total control over your own property. Liberty should also be promoted outside of economics, emphasizing individual rights.

I would think the results would be significantly different if the quiz were more extensive, but the above isn't wholly incorrect.

Your Score: Capital Anarchism

You believe any aspect of social control is dangerous and infringes on the rights of the individual. You think that any sort of control is oppressing and that everybody should only be responsible for them self. To you, liberty is the freedom without constriction or control. You own what you want and you do what you want. What others think it not important.
Seems about right. Hedonism: Apologize for nothing.

Your Score: Communism
You scored 83Positive, 37 Negative!

You believe that all property should be collectively owned and that community rights are the most important. You think that everybody should be equal and that the collective aim is more important than the individual. To you, liberty is the freedom to pursue a life free from selfishness and being able to work for the greater good.

Hmm...a bit extreme maybe, but I suppose thats along the right lines