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Given the following statements (which are of course debatable), is it possible Dennis Kucinich could get enough votes to be president?

1) A large majority of the U.S. population is unhappy with Bush & the Republican party in general.

2) A large majority of the U.S. population who voted in a Democratic-led Congress are unhappy with their performance thus far, mainly due to their inaction regarding Iraq.

3) Dennis Kucinich is not a Repulican, and is among the very few Democrats running who opposed the war from day one (you could apply this to Gravel as well) and who promised to have all troops out before 2013 (which all three Democratic front-runners Obama-Clinton-Edwards would not).

I have watched all the debates so far (Rep&Dem), and he is the one standing out the most to me...I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks.

Bah, Ron Paul has most of the same talking points, but with even better support.

*snip* is it possible Dennis Kucinich could get enough votes to be president?

No.

Maybe, but do you really think a Republican will win this election?

I would rather have him than anyone else running but the way things work he would need massive lifts in both his face and shoes.

Dennis Kucinish is a radical Democrat who wants to take us back to the failed days of Jimmy Carter. His success would mean a defeat in the World War on Terrorism, and thus we would be forced to live in a world where Islamic fundamentalists have the say. Back to the days of big government: where ridiculously high taxes and the government controlling people's lives is the norm, and where we are on the retreat in every front in the World War on Terrorism. Please, he doesn't even have a solution to deal with the Iranian nuclear war threat. This guy is a joke, and besides, he only attracts 2% in the Demotrat Party, so just give up. If you don't raise $50 million a quarter like Mitt Romney, Hilary Clinton, or Barack Obama, you might as well forget about the Presidency. Thats the sad reality of American politics.

Dennis Kucinish is a radical Democrat who wants to take us back to the failed days of Jimmy Carter. His success would mean a defeat in the World War on Terrorism, and thus we would be forced to live in a world where Islamic fundamentalists have the say. Back to the days of big government: where ridiculously high taxes and the government controlling people's lives is the norm, and where we are on the retreat in every front in the World War on Terrorism. Please, he doesn't even have a solution to deal with the Iranian nuclear war threat. This guy is a joke, and besides, he only attracts 2% in the Demotrat Party, so just give up. If you don't raise $50 million a quarter like Mitt Romney, Hilary Clinton, or Barack Obama, you might as well forget about the Presidency. Thats the sad reality of American politics.

Oh piss off I am not voting for Kucinich but he is one of the few good people in this race. I am so tired of hearing people say so and so does not have a chance you should vote for one of the Mainstream Demons who wants to start WW3. There are only 3 candidates who will stop this war and I hope people will have the courage to support them.

Could Kucinich be President? Of course not. He's a short, funny-looking, frequently impractical idealist whom very few people take seriously.

Now, that doesn't mean I don't quite like him, because I do. I agree with many of his views and find his big-eared dorkiness rather charming. I just know perfectly well that he hasn't got a snowflake's chance in hell of getting the Democratic nomination.

He could be, in the sense that he is over 35 years of age and a natural-born citizen of the US. Of course, so am I.

Can he get the votes? Not a chance.

In an infinite number of infinite universes, anything is possible. :)

Given the following statements (which are of course debatable), is it possible Dennis Kucinich could get enough votes to be president?

1) A large majority of the U.S. population is unhappy with Bush & the Republican party in general.

2) A large majority of the U.S. population who voted in a Democratic-led Congress are unhappy with their performance thus far, mainly due to their inaction regarding Iraq.

3) Dennis Kucinich is not a Repulican, and is among the very few Democrats running who opposed the war from day one (you could apply this to Gravel as well) and who promised to have all troops out before 2013 (which all three Democratic front-runners Obama-Clinton-Edwards would not).

I have watched all the debates so far (Rep&Dem), and he is the one standing out the most to me...I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks.

Not going to happen...

You forget to mention that Kucinich is far too liberal for the American public. At least at the presidential level.

Unfortunately, no. I suppose if massive scandals come out about the others, like Hillary's a crackhead and Romney's a kid toucher - all of them, sure. Otherwise, no.

No, because he's just so inept that I would never want him as president. Remember, this is the guy who was the mayor of the only major US city to ever default on its loans...

His success would mean a defeat in the World War on Terrorism, and thus we would be forced to live in a world where Islamic fundamentalists have the say.

That sounds a lot like the world we currently live in. The only thing you have achieved with your so-called "World War on Terrorism" is making the terrorists stronger.


Back to the days of big government: where ridiculously high taxes and the government controlling people's lives is the norm, and where we are on the retreat in every front in the World War on Terrorism.

"Ridiculously high taxes", hah!
Here the taxes are 50%, and we don´t complain.

The name "Kucinich" invokes images of a short man that yells a lot. That's a very hard sell as president of the United States.

if a majority of americans didn't have their heads where the sun don't shine the only contest would be between kussenich and greval and maybe some green write in. as it is, well, as long as people keep creating a market for the dominance of major economic intrests, whatever we say, or even really do, want, we're never going to get anything without their stamp of approval, and that means nothing, no one, whose intrests are primarily those of any real persons, places or things, but only the perpetuation of the dominence of the illusions of symolic value, which is the real 'matrix' we are living in.

unexpected chainges can and do happen however.
once in my life time a dark horse, albiet born with a silver spoon, got in,
and one other time, one of the corporatocracy's picks didn't stay bought once he did. they made damd sure he didn't get a second term though.

both of them happened to have been democrats, but i don't think either party entirely deserves credit for that.

this is the kind of election year comming up when unexpected things COULD happen.

kussenich and gravell, i'm for em, i'd love to see something that didn't put unfounded but popular assumptions ahead of the kind of world we all have to live in. of course we don't REALLY know anything about them. or anything about ANY of them.

hillary and obama are both more likely. i don't think a republican is going to get in without everyone believing, and probably rightly, the election will have been rigged. but someone who might honestly do real people, places and things any real good, who didn't put the coersion of economic intrests he or she wasn't bought and paid for by first, well i think its possible, just bearly.

i'm keeping my toes and fingers crossed and hoping not to jinx anything either way by how i feel about these things.

if i was an odds maker, i'd probably have obama or hillary in the lead, the other of those two second, maybe one or two of the stronger right wingers in fourth or fifth. i'm not sure who i'd have in third. and then after the two most likely from the so called right, the openly monied interests side of the isle, then, somewhere arround sixth or seventh, that's where the odds would have, where they always have, anything, anyone, who we really need or could do us any good.

it WILL be an INTERESTING election. lets just hope there still is an election, and these right wing nuts who want to ruel the world with an economic dictatorship, the ones who have been getting away with mass murder for most of this first decade of the 21st century, haven't pulled another fast one that lets them get away with cancelling the election entirely.

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Dennis couldn't lead Cleveland. I am amazed that he is even worth mentioning in the presidential elections.

Dennis couldn't lead Cleveland. I am amazed that he is even worth mentioning in the presidential elections.

he's only mentioned, and runs, because he's 9/10ths of what we need. not because he stands a stick of incense' chance in a blizzard.

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Apparently (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13086332&postcount=32) he's the candidate I support. And having read his views, I can see why.

He's far too rational and progressive to ever receive the support of a majority of American voters.

No. And apparently he wants to ban handguns, so I can't even say I support him.

Clinton, Obama, and Edwards, have all basically said
if they were president, troops would not necessarily be out of Iraq
by the end of their 4 year term.


What?!

It's an illegal, criminal occupation.
The ONLY way to change the situation, is for the criminal occupiers to get out.


It was lost from day one.


The democrats in funding the war have made it their own.
They too, like Cheny & Bush, et al..., are war criminals as well.



p.s.
what happened to my signature?

The name "Kucinich" invokes images of a short man that yells a lot. That's a very hard sell as president of the United States.


given the two headed imperial corporate war party that runs this country; the world, there should be a lot more people screaming and yelling no matter how tall they are.

I wish he could.

A lot of people would have to die for Denny Kucinny to become president.

Given the following statements (which are of course debatable), is it possible Dennis Kucinich could get enough votes to be president?

1) A large majority of the U.S. population is unhappy with Bush & the Republican party in general.

2) A large majority of the U.S. population who voted in a Democratic-led Congress are unhappy with their performance thus far, mainly due to their inaction regarding Iraq.

3) Dennis Kucinich is not a Repulican, and is among the very few Democrats running who opposed the war from day one (you could apply this to Gravel as well) and who promised to have all troops out before 2013 (which all three Democratic front-runners Obama-Clinton-Edwards would not).

I have watched all the debates so far (Rep&Dem), and he is the one standing out the most to me...I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks.

If a third party candidate wins a presidential election in my lifetime, I will next win the Megamillions, being able to retire to my mountain retreat and perfect my method of flight sans airplane, glider, or other device. I will then put myself into a garish spandex costume and fly around the world with this superpower, dropping Heath bars infused with Peacium to all the children of all the nations of the world -- who will rise up, imprison the adults, and make them watch Mr. Roger's Neighborhood until we can all sincerely say, "Won't you be my neighbor?"

In other words, I have not retained the services of Edna Mode (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edna_Mode) yet... nor do I forsee a need any time soon.

In an infinite number of infinite universes, anything is possible. :)
I suspect that the number of Universes in which Kucinich becomes President are far outnumbered by the Universes in which he is accidentally stepped on by one of his political opponents.

I am from Australia, but since the USA is more or less the ruler of the entire world, I have an interest in who is President. That said, Kucinich is the best choice among all those running for the Presidency. While I do not agree with all of his policies, particularly those on health care and education, I do support most of his policies. Here in Australia we have a poor choice as to who to vote for (because they are all weasel twerp babies), that and we are forced to vote. It is not a right, but a duty here. We still live under the shadow of a monarchy! The only thing stopping me from moving to a place like the USA is that the state can legally murder people there. I digress! If Brian from Family Guy thinks Kucinich is worth supporting, I would think that there would be a fair number of people out there that will vote for him. If he does not win, and some weasel twerp baby gets in, that just means another four to eight years of that same old right-left circus. Fox News anyone?

Dennis Kucinish is a radical Democrat who wants to take us back to the failed days of Jimmy Carter. His success would mean a defeat in the World War on Terrorism, and thus we would be forced to live in a world where Islamic fundamentalists have the say. Back to the days of big government: where ridiculously high taxes and the government controlling people's lives is the norm, and where we are on the retreat in every front in the World War on Terrorism. Please, he doesn't even have a solution to deal with the Iranian nuclear war threat. This guy is a joke, and besides, he only attracts 2% in the Demotrat Party, so just give up. If you don't raise $50 million a quarter like Mitt Romney, Hilary Clinton, or Barack Obama, you might as well forget about the Presidency. Thats the sad reality of American politics.

Fail.

God save us from Gnome Kicincrotch!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/kickyick/kucinich2.jpg

If a third party candidate wins a presidential election in my lifetime, I will next win the Megamillions, being able to retire to my mountain retreat and perfect my method of flight sans airplane, glider, or other device. I will then put myself into a garish spandex costume and fly around the world with this superpower, dropping Heath bars infused with Peacium to all the children of all the nations of the world -- who will rise up, imprison the adults, and make them watch Mr. Roger's Neighborhood until we can all sincerely say, "Won't you be my neighbor?"

In other words, I have not retained the services of Edna Mode (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edna_Mode) yet... nor do I forsee a need any time soon.

After reading that, I have a new goal in life. :)

I suspect that the number of Universes in which Kucinich becomes President are far outnumbered by the Universes in which he is accidentally stepped on by one of his political opponents.

I suspect your suspicions may be correct.

No. And apparently he wants to ban handguns, so I can't even say I support him.Yeah that also does it for me too, how can anyone blow George Bush's and Dick Cheney's brains out if they take our guns away?

No, no he couldn't.

If a third party candidate wins a presidential election in my lifetime, I will next win the Megamillions, being able to retire to my mountain retreat and perfect my method of flight sans airplane, glider, or other device. I will then put myself into a garish spandex costume and fly around the world with this superpower, dropping Heath bars infused with Peacium to all the children of all the nations of the world -- who will rise up, imprison the adults, and make them watch Mr. Roger's Neighborhood until we can all sincerely say, "Won't you be my neighbor?"

In other words, I have not retained the services of Edna Mode (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edna_Mode) yet... nor do I forsee a need any time soon.
Just as a reminder, Kucinich is not technically part of a third party. Maybe that could be part of his campaign. ("I'm an independent, just like you Nader supporters. But I have a chance!")

No, thank goodness.

He looks too much like Yoda to be taken seriously.

Richard Nixon will climb out of the grave and be elected to a third term, with the fat drunk from Massachusetts as his VP, before Boy Denny sees the inside of the White House as anything other than a paying tourist :D

Richard Nixon will climb out of the grave and be elected to a third term, with the fat drunk from Massachusetts as his VP, before Boy Denny sees the inside of the White House as anything other than a paying tourist :D

He could be an invited guest.

red-county, socal?
at least it's not the orange one though, right?
haha.
just kidding.


:upyours::fluffle:

I need that goal in life.

Given the following statements (which are of course debatable), is it possible Dennis Kucinich could get enough votes to be president?

No

1) A large majority of the U.S. population is unhappy with Bush & the Republican party in general.

Means nothing really to the race for the President nor fo Kucinich since he is going to get slaughtered in the Primaries.

2) A large majority of the U.S. population who voted in a Democratic-led Congress are unhappy with their performance thus far, mainly due to their inaction regarding Iraq.

Has no bearing on the race for the President unless the person is in Congress and what they have voted for or against.

3) Dennis Kucinich is not a Repulican

As he is a dem and running as a dem, no shit sherlock

I have watched all the debates so far (Rep&Dem), and he is the one standing out the most to me...I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks.

I think Kucinich is a douce though I would vote for him before I vote for Clinton.

Bah, Ron Paul has most of the same talking points, but with even better support.

Oh hogwash. If he has as much support as his supporters claim then he would be the front runner on the Republican side and he is not and THANK GOD too.