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Will Canada invade Europe?

Belgium and Holland are forbidding products created from seals (http://www.standaard.be/Assets/Images_Upload/2007/09/26/Zeehond.jpg).

Ottawa (Canada) is warning other countries for doing the same. Ottawa asked for an official consultation inside the WTO with the EG regarding this issue. The Canadian initiative – the first step in a formal disagreement – is started to prevent that the Belgian and Holland law would be a European law. The EU is the second largest market for Canada in seal-products.

So what’s next?
Will they invade us?
Should we be afraid?
And what will be the position of USA? What side will they chose?

God only knows they're making enough money off of oil sands to do it...

Actually I think you got it mixed up. Europe will invade Canada, Canada will never invade anything, ever.

So what’s next? Europe reconquer Canada.
Will they invade us? No, we will invade them.
Should we be afraid? No, they should be afraid.
And what will be the position of USA? What side will they chose? They will do as we say, otherwise we beat them up too.

This is my firm beliefs of the future world. Now I just wait for the angry americans. *Hides*:D

Canadian Moose Cavalry!

oh well time to send the British expeditionary force out...again

Invade? With what?!? Crazed hockey players? :p

Invade? With what?!? Crazed hockey players? :p

I believe they're called Princess Patricia's Light Infantry.

Enemies tremble at the name.

Appears they have a blood-curdling battle cry as well:

The Princess Pat's Battalion
They sailed across the Herring Pond,
They sailed across the Channel too,
And landed there with the Ric-A-Dam-Doo
Dam-Doo, Dam-Doo.

The Bombers of the Princess Pat's
Are scared of naught, excepting rats,
They're full of pep and dynamite too,
They'd never lose the Ric-A-Dam-Doo,
Dam-Doo, Dam-Doo.

Old Hammy Gault, our first PP,
He led this band across the sea,
He'd lose an arm, or leg or two
Before he'd lose the Ric-A-Dam-Doo,
Dam-Doo, Dam-Doo.

And then we came to Sicily.
We leapt ashore with vim and glee.
The Colonel said the Wops are through
Let's chase the Hun with the Ric-A-Dam-Doo,
Dam-Doo, Dam-Doo.

The Ric-A-Dam-Doo, pray what is that?
'Twas made at home by Princess Pat,
It's Red and Gold and Royal Blue,
That's what we call the Ric-A-Dam-Doo,
Dam-Doo, Dam-Doo.

I for one welcome our new Mountie overlords.

Will Canada invade Europe?

So what’s next?
Will they invade us?
Should we be afraid?
And what will be the position of USA? What side will they chose?

I LOL. Really. Canada at war with Europe, please...

*We are the Europeans. Lower your trade barriers, your country will be assimilated. We are the Europeans.* (and we REALLY got Borgs = Swedes!)

Oh, btw, wasn't Canada a dominion of the British Crown?

Oh, and if the US want to lose another free-trade war at the WTO, they are welcome, of course...

*We are the Europeans. Lower your trade barriers, your country will be assimilated. We are the Europeans.* (and we REALLY got Borgs = Swedes!)


I´m a swede, and I challenge you for insulting me and my homeland!*Throws gauntlet*

I can see the headlines now--

"USA is in the final processes of securing the newly annexed European and Canadian territories."

It would be like WWII except cooler because we have about 200,000 more nukes than anybody else and we wouldnt have to bother with all that surgical warfare.

Fear the Crazed Hockey Players...

I´m a swede, and I challenge you for insulting me and my homeland!*Throws gauntlet*

Han kanske pratar om Björn Borg? :)

"USA is in the final processes of securing the newly annexed European and Canadian territories."I hate to point this out, but the US' recent track record with securing foreign territories sucks considerably harder than an overdosing five dollar crack whore.

Canadian Mounties riding Moose > anything the US can bring on the field, short of OJ Simpson.

Maybe he talked about Björn Borg? :)

Possible, but as he was talking about free trade I felt it would be better to make a strong point.

I've not read any of the preceding posts but the opening one, so here goes:
1) Seals do not account for a particularly large portion of Canadian exports.
2) Europe is a small percentage of Canadian exports compared to the US
3) The Canadian Forces are pathetic: the Army fields the Leopard tank of the 70s, the Navy is nonexistant, and the Air Force has about 140 combat-ready fighters, based off the 1970s F/A-18 design.

Canada is in no position to do anything but make record distance sniper kills in Afghanistan, don't you worry.

Invade? With what?!? Crazed hockey players? :p

Canadian hockey? No fear: we got Dominator and Jaromir Jagr! yeah, buddies, they're EU citizens!

The Canadian Forces are pathetic: the Army fields the Leopard tank of the 70s, the Navy is nonexistant, and the Air Force has about 140 combat-ready fighters, based off the 1970s F/A-18 design.

That´s why I think we should invade them instead. We civilized europeans would crush them easily.

I´m a swede, and I challenge you for insulting me and my homeland!*Throws gauntlet*

Insult? Borgs are übercool!
*Throws gauntlet back through a transwarp tunnel*

Then I misunderstood you. Excuse me sir.*Bows*
*Is hit by own gauntlet*

The Canadian Forces are pathetic: the Army fields the Leopard tank of the 70s, the Navy is nonexistant, and the Air Force has about 140 combat-ready fighters, based off the 1970s F/A-18 design.

:eek: we don't have a chance!

I can see the headlines now--

"USA is in the final processes of securing the newly annexed European and Canadian territories."

And, since in five years the US haven't even been able of securing Iraq, this is likely to last for some centuries in american headlines. :p

*pats the poor would-be-troll on the back*

Then I misunderstood you. Excuse me sir.*Bows*
*Is hit by own gauntlet*

Aiee! I hit a fellow european with a transwarp gauntlet!
*cuts away own offending hand*

Some good looking crazy Canadian hockey players could certainly mount me!

Will Canada invade Europe?

Cripes, I hope not. I want them to wait until the next US election, and then invade if our country is stupid enough to leave the conservatives in power. I'd rather be occupied by the World's Most Polite Army than have to endure another four years of being ruled by our own home-grown crooks...

Four words that explain why we should surrender now.

Royal. Canadian. Mounted. Police.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Superintendent_Larsen_RCMP.jpg
Be afraid, be very afraid.

That´s why I think we should invade them instead. We civilized europeans would crush them easily.
I almost wouldn't mind a European conquest as I do think that this place needs to be more like Europe. However, I would prefer if you conquered us with your ideas and cultures than with actual force.


Also, wtf @ banning products made with seals? Nobody else throws a fit when states in the US culls their damn deer population, but everyone's up in arms about the seals. What, deer aren't cute enough?

Europe=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mona_Lisa.jpg

North America=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mcdonalds_times_sq.png

As long as they bring those SexyCanadianGirls, I don't care.

HC, admittedly, a woman in nothing but a parka isn't as sexy as it sounds.

I wonder which side I'll choose, Canada or France (dual citizenship)

I almost wouldn't mind a European conquest as I do think that this place needs to be more like Europe. However, I would prefer if you conquered us with your ideas and cultures than with actual force.


Also, wtf @ banning products made with seals? Nobody else throws a fit when states in the US culls their damn deer population, but everyone's up in arms about the seals. What, deer aren't cute enough?

Seals are more cute as deers. And we hate Bambi anyway.

Europe=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mona_Lisa.jpg

North America=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mcdonalds_times_sq.png

Mona Lisa vs Mary Poppins??

No, no... Mona Lisa vs. Madame Tussaud!

I work 2 blocks from there. Why is there a picture of the most recent McDonald's I've gone to in Wikipedia?

As most americans should know the US attempted to invade canada early in the 19th century or late in the 18th cant remember and they were given a thrashing by the canadians who even burnt down the white house in indignation, that being the second time it has been set fire to after the British torched it during the war of independence (hehe) so its no surprise to learn recently that the US was secretly planning a second attempt in 1940 - 1950, however as most of us know world war II erupted and curtailed any US plans to invade kanuckistan..so if I was canadian I would not be thinking about invading europe (strategically impossible for canada anyway) but ensuring sufficent forces are built along the US border before those trigger happy yanks start rolling in and annexing things...the vast mineral resources of canada are extremely tempting for an aggressive and greedy nation like the good ol USA.

Let them come. We'll give'em a taste of their own medicine...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/I_Club_You.jpg

It´s Mona Lisa vs McDonalds.
European culture vs American culture.:D
Here´s some Russian culture btw. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Soviet_propaganda.jpg

HC, admittedly, a woman in nothing but a parka isn't as sexy as it sounds.

I want my SexyCanadianGirls.:mad:

:p

Bah, canadians. Nothing compared to the swedish ones.;)

As most americans should know the US attempted to invade canada early in the 19th century or late in the 18th cant remember and they were given a thrashing by the canadians who even burnt down the white house in indignation, that being the second time it has been set fire to after the British torched it during the war of independence (hehe) so its no surprise to learn recently that the US was secretly planning a second attempt in 1940 - 1950, however as most of us know world war II erupted and curtailed any US plans to invade kanuckistan..so if I was canadian I would not be thinking about invading europe (strategically impossible for canada anyway) but ensuring sufficent forces are built along the US border before those trigger happy yanks start rolling in and annexing things...the vast mineral resources of canada are extremely tempting for an aggressive and greedy nation like the good ol USA.

Please reread your history. The British burned DC in the war of 1812. I don't even think DC was a city during the revolution.

Excuse me, perhaps I'm wrong, but wasn't Canada part of the Commonwealth? If the Queen is its head of State, I doubt she'll move war against Europe... but probably I'm wrong?

Excuse me, perhaps I'm wrong, but wasn't Canada part of the Commonwealth? If the Queen is its head of State, I doubt she'll move war against Europe... but probably I'm wrong?

The queen is getting older. Maybe her Alzheimer could play around and do some nasty tricks.

Maybe, she will declare war to the...Scottish (http://www.scottishsound.com/)!

Mona Lisa vs Mary Poppins??

No, no... Mona Lisa vs. Madame Tussaud!

I work 2 blocks from there. Why is there a picture of the most recent McDonald's I've gone to in Wikipedia?*blinks*

What... neither Madame Tussaud's nor Mary Poppins are American anyway... :confused:

Excuse me, perhaps I'm wrong, but wasn't Canada part of the Commonwealth? If the Queen is its head of State, I doubt she'll move war against Europe... but probably I'm wrong?

What about Europe waging war against her?

*blinks*

What... neither Madame Tussaud's nor Mary Poppins are American anyway...

But McDonalds is. Didn´t anyone get the joke?

Be afraid, be very afraid.

...Dentarthurdent.

The queen is getting older. Maybe her Alzheimer could play around and do some nasty tricks.

Maybe, she will declare war to the...Scottish (http://www.scottishsound.com/)!

Do you know there is an English law which says that, if a Scottish is found in the city of York bearing a bow and arrows, he must be killed? Where's Wallace now?

FREEEEEDOOOM! (Queen's head falls to the ground)

Maybe, she will declare war to the...Scottish (http://www.scottishsound.com/)!

Declare war against her own subjects? Whyever would she do that?

Declare war against her own subjects? Whyever would she do that?

I suggested she was having Alzheimer. You forgot that one? :)

I suggested she was having Alzheimer. You forgot that one? :)

Confusion is setting in heavily at the moment

Does anyone remember "Canadian Bacon"? Those tricky Canadians...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109370/

some quotes:

Redneck Protester #1: Everything I see and hear about these Canadians makes me wanna puke!
Redneck Protester #2: It's time we put the "America" back in North America! GOD BLESS BUD BOOMER!
Crowd of Protestors: USA! USA! USA! USA!

Russian President: You're in charge of the world, now. Don't be such a sore winner!

Smiley: How do you know that was a nuclear facility?
General Panzer: Well, they tricked us on that one. That's a hospital. But it's a hell of a strike!

Edwin S. Simon, NBS News Anchor: The Canadians. They walk among us. William Shatner. Michael J. Fox. Monty Hall. Mike Meyers. Alex Trebek. All of them Canadians. All of them here. Think of your children pledging allegiance to the maple leaf. Mayonnaise on everything. Winter 11 months of the year. Anne Murray - all day, every day.

and, the best one:

Secretary of State: We were thinking, what could be a bigger threat than aliens invading from space?
General Panzer: Ooh boy! Scare the shit out of everyone. Even me, sir!
U.S. President: Jesus, is this the best you could come up with? What about, ya know, international terrorism?
General Panzer: Well, sir, we're not going to re-open missile factories just to fight some creeps running around in exploding rental cars, are we, sir?

I wouldn’t worry much about a war with Canada, as the people of Quebec obviously will side with Europe.
The armies of France or Germany could probably defeat the Canadians on their own.

However, if the Americans entered the war on Canadian side, we would probably have to give up. (as long we get to keep Quebec);)

Hell no, if the Americans entered the war we would beat them too. We are Europeans after all. :p

Indeed, but Europe is weak and decadent after 60 years under different sorts of "nanny"-states.
Both Paris and Stockholm would quickly be smouldering ruins.;)

And part of the US army is in Iraq. If Europe just allies with the muslims and take care of them and then makes a quick attack on the White House and eliminates the president, wouldn´t we have a chance then? :p
God, I´m so psychotic.

The Princess Pat song!!!

We sang that all the time when I was a kid. I believe they disbanded that particular regiment, though... We do have (A few) others, though.

I doubt we would invade anyone over the seal thing. Denmark is on our hitlist, though, with that whole border dispute. In fact, we recently put in an order for some new ships for just that purpose (Well, for a few other purposes, too, but they would be well-suited for confirming our ownership of Hans Island).

You can´t attack Denmark, that´s where we get our cheap beer.:(
What about Norway?

And part of the US army is in Iraq. If Europe just allies with the muslims and take care of them and then makes a quick attack on the White House and eliminates the president, wouldn´t we have a chance then?

If the option is to cooperate with certain Muslim countries and organisations, then I would rather want to see Europe as a American dependency;)

Me too, that was totally theoretical. I just wondered what our chances would be.

I wouldn’t worry much about a war with Canada, as the people of Quebec obviously will side with Europe.
The armies of France or Germany could probably defeat the Canadians on their own.

However, if the Americans entered the war on Canadian side, we would probably have to give up. (as long we get to keep Quebec);)

How about we give you quebec now, and save everyone the trouble. They are such a nuisance so much of the time that we don't want them any more than they want to be here. TAKE BACK YOUR FRENCH, DAMNIT!

Also... war over seal products? WTF? It's not as though seal products our or principle export... I can't even think of one product that contains seal oO Also, I doubt America would side with us XP They don't get anything from it XD

So~ Europe can stop trembling in fear at the thought of the mighty Canadian army storming their gates and .... asking them nicely if they would please by some seal steak :p

Also... war over seal products? WTF? It's not as though seal products our or principle export... I can't even think of one product that contains seal oO


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What a bunch of hyopcrites in Europe. Seals don't die in any more a cruel way than your average factory farm chicken or slaughterhouse cow. Oh, but boohoo, they're cute.

I don't care either way on this whole seal export thing, but I think it's retarded that they're protesting our killing of a non-endangered, non-protected species just because it has big eyes.

http://www.ferret.com.au/dirplus/images/infounits/139013.jpg

Food=http://www.europarl.europa.eu/eplive/expert/photo/20070316PHT04272/pict_20070316PHT04272.jpg

I see oO I honestly didn't know. You don't see seal pie in the super market very often. It's not something I would ever eat, much like dog or horse.

I know a lot of people are irritated over seal clubbing... Is that the issue?

I don't see what other issue there'd be. As far as I know, seal isn't particularly bad for your health or prone to diseases or anything.

And I'm pretty sure the seal hunts are done primarily with guns now adays.

What a bunch of hyopcrites in Europe. Seals don't die in any more a cruel way than your average factory farm chicken or slaughterhouse cow. Oh, but boohoo, they're cute.

I don't care either way on this whole seal export thing, but I think it's retarded that they're protesting our killing of a non-endangered, non-protected species just because it has big eyes.

I know a lot of people are irritated over seal clubbing... Is that the issue?

What the hell?? Why would you even put will Canada invade Europe? That was exclusively the dumbest idea at that moment in time on part of the poster.

What a bunch of hyopcrites in Europe. Seals don't die in any more a cruel way than your average factory farm chicken or slaughterhouse cow. Oh, but boohoo, they're cute.

I don't care either way on this whole seal export thing, but I think it's retarded that they're protesting our killing of a non-endangered, non-protected species just because it has big eyes.

You misunderstood me. I don´t care a bit about those damned seals, I just showed what they should be used for.:D

What the hell?? Why would you even put will Canada invade Europe? That was exclusively the dumbest idea at that moment in time on part of the poster.

But you must admit that it was a funny one.:p

Will Canada invade Europe?



No, thx.

I almost wouldn't mind a European conquest as I do think that this place needs to be more like Europe. However, I would prefer if you conquered us with your ideas and cultures than with actual force.


Oh please. With the exception of Netherlands and Scandinavian countries, most European countries are more backward than us. Like: lower GDP per capita, lower HDI index, worse human rights (free speech restrictions, no marriage and full rights for homosexuals, etc..), retardedly PCness (UK), etc...


Also, wtf @ banning products made with seals? Nobody else throws a fit when states in the US culls their damn deer population, but everyone's up in arms about the seals. What, deer aren't cute enough?

People expect more from Canada than they expect from US. ;)

You misunderstood me. I don´t care a bit about those damned seals, I just showed what they should be used for.:D


Not you specifically, I mean the countries complaining about the seal hunts.

Good. Seals are too awesome to be made into products.

I can see the headlines now--

"USA is in the final processes of securing the newly annexed European and Canadian territories."

It would be like WWII except cooler because we have about 200,000 more nukes than anybody else and we wouldnt have to bother with all that surgical warfare.


Wouldn't have to bother with surgical warfare?? Okay... I know that world geography is generally acknowledged as a weak point in US public education, and that something like 20% of Americans can't find America on a map of the world... so perhaps it bears mentioning that a *huge* majority of the Canadian population lives within 200 km of the US/Canada border. Point being, carefully targeted warfare would be the only way to go in a war. Using nukes at 'short range' would endanger millions of people on the US side of the border with fallout, water table contamination, etc. And even then, I wouldn't put money on the US ever 'conquering' Canada militarily. For one, Canada is huge, many times the size of any country the US has ever tried to occupy, so if the hardcore patriots decided to resist those "insurgents" could just withdraw to the hinterland and conduct guerilla warfare. The climate would be on our side, because we're more used to the cold, and weather is one of history's darling equalisers. The Russian winter stopped Napoleon and Hitler, and Texans call out the national guard when they get an inch of snow. Even if we didn't have those things going for us, the US military doesn't have a sterling track record of success when it comes to occupations, even when it's taking on a technologically inferior force- nevermind a contemporary one.

So, yeah. The only way the US is going to take Canada is the way they've been doing it for decades :-P Protracted, pervasive, commercial-cultural assimilation.

Canadian hockey? No fear: we got Dominator and Jaromir Jagr! yeah, buddies, they're EU citizens!So? They are fucking pussies. They are European hockey players after all. The only European country that can claim to not be completely pussified is Russia, and that is because Russians like it rough.

I wouldn’t worry much about a war with Canada, as the people of Quebec obviously will side with Europe.
The armies of France or Germany could probably defeat the Canadians on their own.

However, if the Americans entered the war on Canadian side, we would probably have to give up. (as long we get to keep Quebec);)If you remember your history, Quebec has always been the province that has opposed helping Europe in wartime.

I don't see what other issue there'd be. As far as I know, seal isn't particularly bad for your health or prone to diseases or anything.

And I'm pretty sure the seal hunts are done primarily with guns now adays.Which is funny as best we know, a seal experiences less pain getting clubbed in the head than being shot.

Clubbing the seal fucks its brain up so bad it goes unconscious instantly as its brain is no longer functional.

Shotting them basically involves them bleeding to death with a huge sore wound. The only way you can get an insta-kill is to get them in the brain, which you pretty much need a military grade sniper for.

Actually I think you got it mixed up. Europe will invade Canada, Canada will never invade anything, ever.

lolz...this reminded me of something my American Cousin said to me once...

Canadians are tricky, they try to fool everyone into thinking they're all nice while secretly building an immense army to conquer the world, that's apparently why are taxes so high...

:p:p:p

Oh and Belgium...buy the seals or we'll f*ck you up...

:D

And part of the US army is in Iraq. If Europe just allies with the muslims and take care of them and then makes a quick attack on the White House and eliminates the president, wouldn´t we have a chance then? :p
God, I´m so psychotic.

War between USA and Europe?

*sigh*

*puts on blue beret*

alright break it up...

Will Canada invade Europe?

Belgium and Holland are forbidding products created from seals (http://www.standaard.be/Assets/Images_Upload/2007/09/26/Zeehond.jpg).

Ottawa (Canada) is warning other countries for doing the same. Ottawa asked for an official consultation inside the WTO with the EG regarding this issue. The Canadian initiative – the first step in a formal disagreement – is started to prevent that the Belgian and Holland law would be a European law. The EU is the second largest market for Canada in seal-products.

So what’s next?
Will they invade us?
Should we be afraid?
And what will be the position of USA? What side will they chose?

Wait Canada vs. Belgium? Would that even be a war or just a bunch of people tossing paper airplanes at each other? LOL yeah not intended to be flaming here but we're not talking about the most militaristic societies here. At the very least that would definitely be worth watching TV for the whole 8 minutes it lasts before a peace deal. Maybe then NY could assume its rightful throne by invading Canada itself :).

As most americans should know the US attempted to invade canada early in the 19th century or late in the 18th cant remember and they were given a thrashing by the canadians who even burnt down the white house in indignation, that being the second time it has been set fire to after the British torched it during the war of independence (hehe)

I am sure someone pointed this out to you but 1) there was no white house during the Revolutionary War so the Brits did not burn it down then and 2) The Canadians did not burn down the White House. Also have to remember, they were all british citizens who had no independence till after the American Civil War (I forgot the year but it was after the US had its civil war). Therefor, it was the British that beat us back into the United States during both the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 (which was a draw)

so its no surprise to learn recently that the US was secretly planning a second attempt in 1940 - 1950, however as most of us know world war II erupted and curtailed any US plans to invade kanuckistan..

Some proof would be nice.

so if I was canadian I would not be thinking about invading europe (strategically impossible for canada anyway) but ensuring sufficent forces are built along the US border before those trigger happy yanks start rolling in and annexing things...the vast mineral resources of canada are extremely tempting for an aggressive and greedy nation like the good ol USA.

Nice attempt at a US bash. It failed utterly.

Please reread your history. The British burned DC in the war of 1812. I don't even think DC was a city during the revolution.

It wasn't.

Does anyone remember "Canadian Bacon"? Those tricky Canadians...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109370/

some quotes:

Redneck Protester #1: Everything I see and hear about these Canadians makes me wanna puke!
Redneck Protester #2: It's time we put the "America" back in North America! GOD BLESS BUD BOOMER!
Crowd of Protestors: USA! USA! USA! USA!

Russian President: You're in charge of the world, now. Don't be such a sore winner!

Smiley: How do you know that was a nuclear facility?
General Panzer: Well, they tricked us on that one. That's a hospital. But it's a hell of a strike!

Edwin S. Simon, NBS News Anchor: The Canadians. They walk among us. William Shatner. Michael J. Fox. Monty Hall. Mike Meyers. Alex Trebek. All of them Canadians. All of them here. Think of your children pledging allegiance to the maple leaf. Mayonnaise on everything. Winter 11 months of the year. Anne Murray - all day, every day.

and, the best one:

Secretary of State: We were thinking, what could be a bigger threat than aliens invading from space?
General Panzer: Ooh boy! Scare the shit out of everyone. Even me, sir!
U.S. President: Jesus, is this the best you could come up with? What about, ya know, international terrorism?
General Panzer: Well, sir, we're not going to re-open missile factories just to fight some creeps running around in exploding rental cars, are we, sir?

I love that movie. I have it to. It is one of my favorite comedies.

As most americans should know the US attempted to invade canada early in the 19th century or late in the 18th cant remember and they were given a thrashing by the canadians who even burnt down the white house in indignation, that being the second time it has been set fire to after the British torched it during the war of independence (hehe) so its no surprise to learn recently that the US was secretly planning a second attempt in 1940 - 1950, however as most of us know world war II erupted and curtailed any US plans to invade kanuckistan..so if I was canadian I would not be thinking about invading europe (strategically impossible for canada anyway) but ensuring sufficent forces are built along the US border before those trigger happy yanks start rolling in and annexing things...the vast mineral resources of canada are extremely tempting for an aggressive and greedy nation like the good ol USA.

Ignorance is such bliss. I suggest reading up on some history. The plan for a twentieth century raid into Canada was "War Plan Red". Read the link and learn something for once about the reason for such a plan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red

BLAME CANADA!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ahumZXjork

An old one and a classic. ;)

Wouldn't have to bother with surgical warfare?? Okay... I know that world geography is generally acknowledged as a weak point in US public education, and that something like 20% of Americans can't find America on a map of the world... so perhaps it bears mentioning that a *huge* majority of the Canadian population lives within 200 km of the US/Canada border. Point being, carefully targeted warfare would be the only way to go in a war. Using nukes at 'short range' would endanger millions of people on the US side of the border with fallout, water table contamination, etc. And even then, I wouldn't put money on the US ever 'conquering' Canada militarily. For one, Canada is huge, many times the size of any country the US has ever tried to occupy, so if the hardcore patriots decided to resist those "insurgents" could just withdraw to the hinterland and conduct guerilla warfare. The climate would be on our side, because we're more used to the cold, and weather is one of history's darling equalisers. The Russian winter stopped Napoleon and Hitler, and Texans call out the national guard when they get an inch of snow. Even if we didn't have those things going for us, the US military doesn't have a sterling track record of success when it comes to occupations, even when it's taking on a technologically inferior force- nevermind a contemporary one.

So, yeah. The only way the US is going to take Canada is the way they've been doing it for decades :-P Protracted, pervasive, commercial-cultural assimilation.

I think you missed the sarcasm.

BLAME CANADA!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ahumZXjork

An old one and a classic. ;)

Gotta love South Park. :D

Wait Canada vs. Belgium? Would that even be a war or just a bunch of people tossing paper airplanes at each other?

don't be ridiculous, Belgium's main weapons are mussels and chips (with mayo).

But could be fun, the French speakers on both sides may refuse to fight each other on grounds of preserving their language and the German speakers would probably refuse to fight in the hope of their non German speaking countrymen dying thereby increasing their linguistic ratio.

To be honest considering the ties between the Canadian military and the Belgians I am not sure either military would enact orders to prosecute a war.

In regards to the seal boycott – we will consider killing less seals in more humane ways when global warming stops, the Americans and Europeans stop using the North West passage (and thusly disrupting the ice flows), and the seal population returns to normal. I really want these people who get uppity on the seal hunts to visit some Atlantic Canadian Ports (Halifax and Saint Johns come to mind). These things are basically like wild dogs of the water that are no longer afraid of humans. We don’t yell at New Yorkers for their pigeon control methods. I will admit that it’s a bad situation but it’s simply another ecosystem that humanity has trashed and some animal species are suffering for it. Do something productive like save a polar bear – maybe we can bring some balance back.


In regards to the question of historical American – Canadian animosity; ever ask why we burned the White House? It was related to why our capital is not the city of York. It was a retaliatory action because they basically obliterated the city – razed it because it was the seat of government. And I like to think that the Canadians had a hand in it. While we were not a country the soldiers that fought in the war could culturally identify with Canada. I use the term because that’s what we call it today. Remember that we had a decent sized French population – both Acadian and Québécois which had not sworn loyalty to the crown.


And today? I fully admit that if the United States ever wanted to they could steam roller my country. We simply could not compete. That said – have you seen the performance of American troops on joint force exercises up north? They’re pitiful compared to our own. I picture a form of seasonal asymmetrical warfare where basically every winter we manage to slip out from our occupiers thumb for 4 – 6 months, only to be crushed when with the spring thaw. Course they’d probably do something funny like run a draft in the mountain states. Colorado isn’t exactly warm in Jan either…

Oh and the political aspect of it would be hilarious. You’d have Alberta asking for Statehood, Quebec looking for some form of peace treaty as a separate nation, and the Mohawks would probably try to jump start the Iroquois Confederacy again. Massive construction in BC as you guys build those Alaska to contiguous US pipelines without Canadian regulations slowing you down. I could see the American airbases in NFLD opening back up, a US naval base being tossed into the Artic there to make a claim on the North West Passage….. does anyone else want to play the Superpower2 computer game?

Canadians are tricky, they try to fool everyone into thinking they're all nice while secretly building an immense army to conquer the world, that's apparently why are taxes so high...

High taxes...*Laughs*
My friend, those aren´t high taxes at all. Where I am, the taxes is about 50%.
And we swedes haven´t conquered the world...yet.

High taxes...*Laughs*
My friend, those aren´t high taxes at all. Where I am, the taxes is about 50%.
And we swedes haven´t conquered the world...yet.That is because your soldiers cannot command fear.

Which is funny as best we know, a seal experiences less pain getting clubbed in the head than being shot.

Clubbing the seal fucks its brain up so bad it goes unconscious instantly as its brain is no longer functional.

Shotting them basically involves them bleeding to death with a huge sore wound. The only way you can get an insta-kill is to get them in the brain, which you pretty much need a military grade sniper for.

This would all be fine if clubbing instead of shooting was for sealitarian purposes rather than to ensure the pelt doesn't have a huge bullet hole as that would upset Mrs. Tweedledee if her seal fur pantaloons had a reminder of how they were made.

*sealitarian - like humanitarian but for seals - I'm making up words from now on

That is because your soldiers cannot command fear.

No, it´s because we always have had cowardly politicans. Damn you, Social Democrats! I mean, look at when we had kings instead, then we gave the Russians one hell of a bellyache. :mp5:

This would all be fine if clubbing instead of shooting was for sealitarian purposes rather than to ensure the pelt doesn't have a huge bullet hole as that would upset Mrs. Tweedledee if her seal fur pantaloons had a reminder of how they were made.

*sealitarian - like humanitarian but for seals - I'm making up words from now onIndians would cry if they saw you post that. You shouldn't left any part of the seal you just clubbed go to waste. Make seal fur pantaloons and seal bone tools, instead of just leaving blood seal carcase on the ice. If you do that, than nature will not make more seal, which is exactly what we do not want. If nature stopped making seal, how could we profit from seal based products?

No, it´s because we always have had cowardly politicans. Damn you, Social Democrats! I mean, look at when we had kings instead, then we gave the Russians one hell of a bellyache. :mp5:Russians don't get bellyaches. They get bellyoppressions.

Indians would cry if they saw you post that. You shouldn't left any part of the seal you just clubbed go to waste. Make seal fur pantaloons and seal bone tools, instead of just leaving blood seal carcase on the ice. If you do that, than nature will not make more seal, which is exactly what we do not want. If nature stopped making seal, how could we profit from seal based products?

Wait - why am I being accused of clubbing the seal, stripping its fur and leaving a bloody carcass on the ice?

I'm merely saying that seals are clubbed rather than shot because it doesn't ruin their pelt as opposed to because it's more sealane.

*sealane - like humane but for seals

You're making a posirroneous conclusion

*posirroneous - like erroneous but made by Posi

Canada invade Europe, with what?!? Hockey players? Moose? Canadian Mounted Police?

Russians don't get bellyaches. They get bellyoppressions.

True. http://www.eremit.dk/ebog/bkh/2/ill/bkh2_ill_469.png

Wait - why am I being accused of clubbing the seal, stripping its fur and leaving a bloody carcass on the ice?

I'm merely saying that seals are clubbed rather than shot because it doesn't ruin their pelt as opposed to because it's more sealane.

*sealane - like humane but for seals

You're making a posirroneous conclusion

*posirroneous - like erroneous but made by PosiNo, I am accusing you of clubbing a seal, and letting it rot where it dropped dead.

What a bunch of hyopcrites in Europe. Seals don't die in any more a cruel way than your average factory farm chicken or slaughterhouse cow. Oh, but boohoo, they're cute.

I don't care either way on this whole seal export thing, but I think it's retarded that they're protesting our killing of a non-endangered, non-protected species just because it has big eyes.

We never kill animals with big eyes (http://belpop.50webs.com/vero/id35.htm)!

No, I am accusing you of clubbing a seal, and letting it rot where it dropped dead.

Oh, apologies for the misinterpretation.

For you information, they don't really 'drop' as such, it's more a slumping motion.

The real reason Belgium shouldn't be worried about a Canadian invasion is that the Canadian government is not sure its navy can paddle that far.

I'm merely saying that seals are clubbed rather than shot because it doesn't ruin their pelt as opposed to because it's more sealane.

That may be true if you ask a hunter, but I would venture that the reason they're allowed to use the hakapik is that it is, in fact, more humane than a bullet (this conclusion being reached by both Canadian and American veterinarians, and I believe it was some American companies that first started boycotting Canadian seal products a few years back), despite being more messy. I think this brouhaha is all about appearances: seals appear cute, hakapiks appear brutal, and the Belgian/Dutch governments want to appear to be compassionate. Or something.

1) Seals do not account for a particularly large portion of Canadian exports.
2) Europe is a small percentage of Canadian exports compared to the US

1) Not overall, but I think the northern/fishing communities sing a fairly different tune.
2) Not for seal products.

However, if the Americans entered the war on Canadian side, we would probably have to give up. (as long we get to keep Quebec);)

YOU CAN HAVE IT FOR FREE :D (Kidding Quebec, we kinda love you in a pesky brother sort of way)

As for the topic at hand, Canada invade Europe? As much as I know the question is in jest, I feel the Dutch and Belgians ought to remember that the last time armed Canadians trundled through their streets was to liberate them in 1945.

Oh dang, I got so hung up in being serious I almost forgot my own little picture (http://triplea.animeblogger.net/images/2007-04-13/Seal.png).

Oh dang, I got so hung up in being serious I almost forgot my own little picture (http://triplea.animeblogger.net/images/2007-04-13/Seal.png).

I'm both amused by the caption while disturbed by the image.

I really can see that clubbing baby seals is little different to holding chickens in cages and then slaughtering them for food and that it's really the image that's bad PR but...

...lickle baby seals :(

What about this kind of seals? http://www.specialoperations.com/Navy/SEALs/desert%20seals.jpg

As for the topic at hand, Canada invade Europe? As much as I know the question is in jest, I feel the Dutch and Belgians ought to remember that the last time armed Canadians trundled through their streets was to liberate them in 1945.


And now the Dutch & Belgians soldiers will trundle the Canadian streets to rescue the seals from the evil empire.

On the other hand, maybe an exodus of seals will now enter Belgium...

And I'm sure they will not adapt themselves to our culture. Those son of a b*tches will still eat fish instead of Belgian fries...:)

I'm both amused by the caption while disturbed by the image.

I really can see that clubbing baby seals is little different to holding chickens in cages and then slaughtering them for food and that it's really the image that's bad PR but...

...lickle baby seals :(

Yeah, I have a pretty broad sense of humour, so by the law of averages it includes its share of morbidity. ;)

Your comment about chickens makes me regret I didn't stop in here before going to dinner at my grandmother's: my cousins were over too and one of them is now apparently vegetarian, and had some prepared remarks about beef and chicken and suchlike. I wonder what she has to say about seal hunting... I'll get back to you after the weekend when I go visit. :p

As an aside and related to those remarks and the discussion that arose from it, does anybody have any idea if cattle are treated any kindlier in kosher slaughterhouses? :confused:

And now the Dutch & Belgians soldiers will trundle the Canadian streets to rescue the seals from the evil empire.

Well played. :D

As an aside and related to those remarks and the discussion that arose from it, does anybody have any idea if cattle are treated any kindlier in kosher slaughterhouses? :confused:


According the biggest Belgian animal organisation Gaia it is not.

http://www.gaia.be/

Canada invade Europe, with what?!? Hockey players? Moose? Canadian Mounted Police?

No, worse.

We'll get Celine to release a new album and flood the airwaves with it.

You'll surrender... whimpering.

:D

The seals should organise themselves better:

• First, they should eat only the fishes the Canadians like.
• At night they should use guerrilla techniques, come together with millions in front of some Canadian city, bark for 30 minutes, making sure everyone is awake, and then disappear to reappear in front of another city and doing it all over.
• Wearing polar bear costumes. Not one human will encounter a polar bear close.
• Phone Bush and inform him that Canadians are like communist and terrorist in one package.
• Hire Disney for creating lovely-seal cartoons to (mis)inform the public.
• Shoot back at Canadians. The potential army power of the seals is much bigger as that of the Canadians.
• Treat Canadians as Canadians are treating seals.
• Make sure Quebec is on the side of the Seals, they could start barking in French.

According the biggest Belgian animal organisation Gaia it is not.

http://www.gaia.be/

That site has a decent breadth of information on its "Campaigns" page, but I didn't see anything about kosher slaughterhouses in particular. It also seems to concern itself mainly with abuses within Belgium, when I was looking for a more general idea of the situation.

I just tried my own personal bible, Wikipedia, and found a blurb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher#Kashrut_and_animal_welfare), but all it did was say there was some sort of controversy, which tells me little.

Gah and gah again. Sometime soon a post is going to come in under "Zombolia", yet another alt nation of mine. I'm tired of fiddling with my cookies and "Remember me" checkboxes for tonight, so just giving you a heads-up and going to bed instead of waiting to delete it. Buenos noches!

Indeed, but Europe is weak and decadent after 60 years under different sorts of "nanny"-states.

Do you think that 60 years of peace (ignoring the last Balkan wars and the invasion of Cyprus) are enough for us to forget at least 2500 year of almost-continuous war?

We like peace because we know war and how to do it.

What a bunch of hyopcrites in Europe. Seals don't die in any more a cruel way than your average factory farm chicken or slaughterhouse cow. Oh, but boohoo, they're cute.

I don't care either way on this whole seal export thing, but I think it's retarded that they're protesting our killing of a non-endangered, non-protected species just because it has big eyes.

What a poor attempt at weaseling.
Seals ARE endangered. They are precious few, and their number isn't on the rise.

And we swedes haven´t conquered the world...yet.

What about the ultimate Weapon of Mass Furniture, IKEA?:D

Originally Posted by Heilegenberg
Indeed, but Europe is weak and decadent after 60 years under different sorts of "nanny"-states.


You don't need a brain to carry a gun.

Warfare and winning wars has nothing to do with having the best equipment and sure it helps.

But since Vietnam and Vietnam part II (Iraq), Americans should now know better.

But hey, Iran is looking around the corner...

If EG and US would be involved in a war with each other, it is not sure who would be the winner.

Sure in manpower, technology and experience US is overwhelming the EG but that’s not enough.

I think after a 10 year war, the outcome would be probably a remise game.

Europe created the EG partly to avoid wars. And since decades we are not smashing each others head in pieces. While the EG is costing a lot, it seems like it is worth the price.

Is it decadent having no wars since 60 years? Well, I'm proud to be decadent.

And as we are talking about decadent terms…

• US is the biggest porn producer and consumer in the world.
• The amount of SUV’s per square mile is the highest in US. And this while we are looking at the bottom of the once enormous oil oceans.
• The amount of abnormal very fat people per square meter is the highest in US.

What about the ultimate Weapon of Mass Furniture, IKEA?:D

Yeah, that one has pretty much conquered the world. Not as much as McDonalds, though. :p

• The amount of abnormal very fat people per square meter is the highest in US.

Scotland will take the title don't you worry :p

No, worse.

We'll get Celine to release a new album and flood the airwaves with it.

You'll surrender... whimpering.

:D

Europe strikes back with the European Song Contest. You will die under intensive pain. :D

Yeah, that one has pretty much conquered the world. Not as much as McDonalds, though. :p

Pizza+Ikea+English language+Wurstel+Pommes frites...

EU already conquered the world! :D

Pizza+Ikea+English language+Wurstel+Pommes frites...

EU already conquered the world! :D

We even produce better trash:
Big Brother, The Mole, Expedition Robinson :)

Pizza+Ikea+English language+Wurstel+Pommes frites...

EU already conquered the world!

That´s five things.
US got three: McDonalds, Coca-Cola and Fattness.
You´re right! We´re the best! :D

• Hire Disney for creating lovely-seal cartoons to (mis)inform the public.
That one will work. Disney did it with mice, turning the disease-carrying, food-stealing, crop-destroying plagues into adorable little victims, while our adorable and helpful cats, fighting the good fight against the little bastards, were turned into hateful mass murderers ;_;

I hate Disney ;_;

That one will work. Disney did it with mice, turning the disease-carrying, foot-stealing, crop-destroying plagues into adorable little victims, while our adorable and helpful cats, fighting the good fight against the little bastards, were turned into hateful mass murderers ;_;

I hate Disney ;_;

I'm even silent about the bloodthirsty behaviour of deer.

Those animals kill and rape humans like it is nothing. Probably they are the cause of AIDS.

And then Disney invented 'Bambi'

That´s five things.

And from five different countries to boot!

US got three: McDonalds, Coca-Cola and Fattness.
You´re right! We´re the best! :D

Try calculating the joint medal ranking of the EU-27 at the last Summer and Winter Olympic Games... TOTAL PWNAGE!!!

High taxes...*Laughs*
My friend, those aren´t high taxes at all. Where I am, the taxes is about 50%.
And we swedes haven´t conquered the world...yet.

Please note that I AM NOT saying Canada has high taxes, MY AMERICAN COUSIN was saying Canada had high taxes...to fund a secret army...

I mean I know compared to you Commie-Red Europeans :p ....our taxes are not that high

I mean I know compared to you Commie-Red Europeans :p ....our taxes are not that high

I belong to the 5% of the european population that are not communists...:p

You know Europeans hunt Harp Seals too

FROM WIKI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harp_seal)

Harp Seal separates into three populations according to their breeding locations: the White Sea, the West Ice and Northwest Atlantic. Seals breeding in the Northwest Atlantic near Newfoundland, Canada represent the largest population and are genetically different from seals breeding in the two other places, which have not been proven genetically different from each other. All three populations are hunted commercially, mainly by Canada, Norway, Russia and Greenland

an it isn't endangered...The Canadian Government has regulated the Seal Hunt

There are no reliable estimates of the size of Northwest Atlantic population when commercial hunting began in the early 1800s.Several simulation models estimated virginal populations to be in the 3 to 4 million range.It is considered that the population recovered to about 3 million at the end of World War II, but subsequently declined by 50–66% between 1950 and 1970 due to commercial hunting in Canada. Quotas and other conservation measures since then have enabled the population to nearly triple in size to 5.2 million according to a peer-reviewed survey in 1999.

It is true that in 1812 Canada was not a separate country. It was, however, its own nation at that time. The US took the revolution route to statehood, whereas we took the evolution route. It was slower and less dramatic, but the process began just as early as the American one. Several of my professors back in university were fond of the catchphrase that the American Revolution created two countries: The USA and Canada.

We may not have gained our own colour on the world maps until 1867, 1917, or 1921 (Confederation, the Battle At Vimy Ridge, or the Statute Of Westminster [The three main events in the creation of Canada as a country]), but Canada was already a nation by the time that happened. Our culture started diverging almost immediately after the first settlers came (Or even before, considering the First Nations). By the mid nineteenth-century Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and the unified Province Of Canada (Formerly Upper and Lower Canada, currently Quebec and Ontario), and also Newfoundland were quite distinct from the European societies that created them.

After the Americans burned Hogtown it was the Canadians who retaliated by running amok in the USA, burning the seat of government there and paving the way for the White House (Really, the USA is as indebted to us for making that possible as we are to them for having our current Parliament in its location specifically chosen to be distant from the American border in the event of another war). At the same time, it is important to keep in mind that many folks (Particularly in New Brunswick and Maine) completely ignored the War and went about the happy cross-border trading that still survives today.

Europe may be more smart, fashionable, and exotic, but the USA is Canada's best friend economically. If we really, really had to choose, we would probably stick with our continental companions to the South. If Canadian conflicts with Belgium or Denmark do boil over (Not that they ever would), hopefully the USA would stick on the Canadian side, if only to protect their security and economic interests if not for the deep historical ties between us.

Anyway, this post is waay too long. Sorry-

Invade? With what?!? Crazed hockey players? :p


Wouldn't they just be Drunk off their face?

As most americans should know the US attempted to invade canada early in the 19th century or late in the 18th cant remember and they were given a thrashing by the canadians who even burnt down the white house in indignation, that being the second time it has been set fire to after the British torched it during the war of independence (hehe) so its no surprise to learn recently that the US was secretly planning a second attempt in 1940 - 1950, however as most of us know world war II erupted and curtailed any US plans to invade kanuckistan..so if I was canadian I would not be thinking about invading europe (strategically impossible for canada anyway) but ensuring sufficent forces are built along the US border before those trigger happy yanks start rolling in and annexing things...the vast mineral resources of canada are extremely tempting for an aggressive and greedy nation like the good ol USA.

Wow... the ignorance of this post... it's one of the wonders of the world it's so dumb.

There was no white house in the Revolution. They didn't build Washington DC until after the ratification of the Constitution.

And we tried to invade Canada in both the Revolution (because we thought the French Canadians would join us) and the War of 1812 (the latter being the one that got our capitol, the white house, etc. burnt).

That last thing you mentioned sounds like a conspiracy theory. Everybody is in on it but you, naturally.

Wow... the ignorance of this post... it's one of the wonders of the world it's so dumb.

There was no white house in the Revolution. They didn't build Washington DC until after the ratification of the Constitution.

And we tried to invade Canada in both the Revolution (because we thought the French Canadians would join us) and the War of 1812 (the latter being the one that got our capitol, the white house, etc. burnt).

That last thing you mentioned sounds like a conspiracy theory. Everybody is in on it but you, naturally.

Yea I have actually heard of that before The US apparently had a plan to invade Canada in the 1930's

and I found this thing
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p121_HNAC.html

And from Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red

This would all be fine if clubbing instead of shooting was for sealitarian purposes rather than to ensure the pelt doesn't have a huge bullet hole as that would upset Mrs. Tweedledee if her seal fur pantaloons had a reminder of how they were made.

*sealitarian - like humanitarian but for seals - I'm making up words from now on
They don't shoot the seals because silencers are illegal in Canada and if you shot one seal all the rest of them would run off. Instead they club them because it's quiet and all the other seals will sit there while the seal behind them is being clubbed to death. It doesn't have anything to do with the pelt.

They don't shoot the seals because silencers are illegal in Canada and if you shot one seal all the rest of them would run off. Instead they club them because it's quiet and all the other seals will sit there while the seal behind them is being clubbed to death. It doesn't have anything to do with the pelt.

Want to show any evidence for this?

I ask because actually people do shoot seals, it's one of the 3 proscribed ways to kill a seal according to Canadian law - fat ass seals won't even move if they hear gun shot, which is why you can also walk up to them with a big club.

And since you can walk up to them with a big club, which does not ruin the pelt nor does it allow for error in a missed shot - and a bullet in the body actually will make a seal move - it's considered a better means of hunting.

The pelt does have something to do with it, quite a large part.

We like peace because we know war and how to do it.

And yet, we (Western- and Central-Europe) weren't able to stop a genocide that was happening in our own backyard, until we received help from the USA.
I am of course refering to the Balkans.

You don't need a brain to carry a gun.

Warfare and winning wars has nothing to do with having the best equipment and sure it helps.

But since Vietnam and Vietnam part II (Iraq), Americans should now know better.

But hey, Iran is looking around the corner...

If EG and US would be involved in a war with each other, it is not sure who would be the winner.

Sure in manpower, technology and experience US is overwhelming the EG but that’s not enough.

I think after a 10 year war, the outcome would be probably a remise game.

I think an overwhelming superiority in manpower, technology and experience is enough. Europe only has three (maybe five) countries with a decent army, and I doubt that these countries (France, Germany and Great Britain) would be able to cooperate about a common defence.



Is it decadent having no wars since 60 years? Well, I'm proud to be decadent.


I wasn't refering to that. And by the way, Europe hasn't been all fun these last 60 years. We had war and genocide in South-Eastern Europe a few years back.

And yet, we (Western- and Central-Europe) weren't able to stop a genocide that was happening in our own backyard, until we received help from the USA.
I am of course refering to the Balkans.

But we are very good at starting wars. :D

I think an overwhelming superiority in manpower, technology and experience is enough. Europe only has three (maybe five) countries with a decent army, and I doubt that these countries (France, Germany and Great Britain) would be able to cooperate about a common defence.

We have a strategic advantage in that USA is on the other side of the Atlantic. American reinforcements would have to travel quite a bit.

We have a strategic advantage in that USA is on the other side of the Atlantic. American reinforcements would have to travel quite a bit.

correct,
americans always used the military base in açores(azores) from Portugal (they did in WW2, and still do with iraq).

And the south american, african, middle-east(exept kuwait and israel) and russia probably like Europe more than America, so, they(americans) would be in deep shit to get some oil

correct,
americans always used the military base in açores(azores) from Portugal (they did in WW2, and still do with iraq).

And the south american, african, middle-east(exept kuwait and israel) and russia probably like Europe more than America, so, they(americans) would be in deep shit to get some oil

You do realize that your statement makes two assumptions.

1) A war time desperate USA would not “ensure the freedom of the South American oil trade from pervasive European influences which stem liberty.”
2) The country which can only produce 70% of its domestic oil consumption, at full production mind you, would not institute rationing measures with the military being assessed high enough on that list so that – relative to the war effort – there is no shortage.

And while the Atlantic is certainly a sizeable strategic obstacle we are talking about the country with more experience in overseas logistics than any other at this point. In the event a bloody war did break out what are the odds that every American serviceman in Europe is detained or killed? Every airbase? Naval facility? American NATO commitments may be declining but they are still sizeable on the world scale. And in today’s day and age air supply is feasible.

Now in regards to clubbing seals – of course it’s the pelt. If there were an economic incentive to do it a different way it’d be done a different way. There is not. I am not saying I am going out on the ice tomorrow to club a seal but by the same token when you have a beef product are you telling me you’re fully prepared to take onto yourself the full weight of a slaughterhouse operation?

It wouldn't matter if they did because guys dressed in full military fatigues sporting Canadian accents is just plain FUNNY. The opposing armies quite simply wouldn't take them seriously.

"Yaaa, we're goooona go ooover theeeere and take OUt that Leopard II."

I've seen clips of Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan, and it's downright hilarious.

I live in canada.

Our best weapons are our seaking helicopters death traps.

During World War II princess Juliana of the Netherlands (who later became queen) lived in Canada with her three daughters (one of them is the current queen). Her fourth daughter was born in Ottawa.

In the same World War II Germans murdered 70,000 Jews and 25,000 non-Jewish citizens of the same Netherlands.

In that same war almost 15,000 Canadians were killed by Nazis while liberating Holland and northern Belgium. Canadians were the primary liberating force in Holland.

After the war, Juliana's oldest daughter married a former Nazi officer and Holland since 1976 has allowed former Nazis to settle in Holland (purportedly under the EC and later EU treaties), but it has never given the same privilege to Canadians.

Canadians get a bunch of tulips for Ottawa every year.

Would you call Holland an ingrateful stinking cesspool? I would.

During World War II princess Juliana of the Netherlands (who later became queen) lived in Canada with her three daughters (one of them is the current queen). Her fourth daughter was born in Ottawa.

In the same World War II Germans murdered 70,000 Jews and 25,000 non-Jewish citizens of the same Netherlands.

In that same war almost 15,000 Canadians were killed by Nazis while liberating Holland and northern Belgium. Canadians were the primary liberating force in Holland.

After the war, Juliana's oldest daughter married a former Nazi officer and Holland since 1976 has allowed former Nazis to settle in Holland (purportedly under the EC and later EU treaties), but it has never given the same privilege to Canadians.

Canadians get a bunch of tulips for Ottawa every year.

Would you call Holland an ingrateful stinking cesspool? I would.

Holland is an ingrateful stinking cesspool

I almost wouldn't mind a European conquest as I do think that this place needs to be more like Europe. However, I would prefer if you conquered us with your ideas and cultures than with actual force.


Also, wtf @ banning products made with seals? Nobody else throws a fit when states in the US culls their damn deer population, but everyone's up in arms about the seals. What, deer aren't cute enough?

overpopulation isn't a laughing matter. In North Dakota's biggest city, they have an in-town bow:sniper: season, they keep moving into our "suburbs". :sniper:

You know Europeans hunt Harp Seals too

FROM WIKI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harp_seal)

Harp Seal separates into three populations according to their breeding locations: the White Sea, the West Ice and Northwest Atlantic. Seals breeding in the Northwest Atlantic near Newfoundland, Canada represent the largest population and are genetically different from seals breeding in the two other places, which have not been proven genetically different from each other. All three populations are hunted commercially, mainly by Canada, Norway, Russia and Greenland


Canada. Not an EU country.
Norway. Not an EU country.
Russia. Not an EU contry.
Greenland. Not an EU country - it's an autonomous territory under the Danish Crown (that is, if Greenland is EU, then also Canada, Australia and NZ are EU).

EU countries are: France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, United Kingdom, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Austria, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Cyprus, Romania, Bulgaria.

See, we're discussing the EU against Canadian seal hunt. Not generally "europeans" against Canadian seal hunt.

You do realize that your statement makes two assumptions.

1) A war time desperate USA would not “ensure the freedom of the South American oil trade from pervasive European influences which stem liberty.”
2) The country which can only produce 70% of its domestic oil consumption, at full production mind you, would not institute rationing measures with the military being assessed high enough on that list so that – relative to the war effort – there is no shortage.

And while the Atlantic is certainly a sizeable strategic obstacle we are talking about the country with more experience in overseas logistics than any other at this point. In the event a bloody war did break out what are the odds that every American serviceman in Europe is detained or killed? Every airbase? Naval facility? American NATO commitments may be declining but they are still sizeable on the world scale. And in today’s day and age air supply is feasible.

1) True.
2) True.

You are right in that USA has more experience than anyone else in overseas logistics. But as the US Navy is spread around the world, it would take time to gather the strength neccesary to attack Europe. And as gathering this strength gives the Europeans a strategic warning, I´m pretty sure that most American bases would be neutralized before reinforcements arrive. As for air supply, it´s possible, but it´s an ineffective way to supply troops and no heavy equipment can be brought in. Also, these airplanes would need constant escort, as European aircraft from either Iceland, Norway(assuming they are on the European side) or the UK could shoot a large number of them down, which would use up a large part of the US Navy.

During World War II princess Juliana of the Netherlands (who later became queen) lived in Canada with her three daughters (one of them is the current queen). Her fourth daughter was born in Ottawa.

In the same World War II Germans murdered 70,000 Jews and 25,000 non-Jewish citizens of the same Netherlands.

In that same war almost 15,000 Canadians were killed by Nazis while liberating Holland and northern Belgium. Canadians were the primary liberating force in Holland.

After the war, Juliana's oldest daughter married a former Nazi officer and Holland since 1976 has allowed former Nazis to settle in Holland (purportedly under the EC and later EU treaties), but it has never given the same privilege to Canadians.

Canadians get a bunch of tulips for Ottawa every year.

Would you call Holland an ingrateful stinking cesspool? I would.

I'd say that almost all Canadians dont really care about settling to the Netherlands, so tulips are cool.

The seals should organise themselves better:

• First, they should eat only the fishes the Canadians like.
• At night they should use guerrilla techniques, come together with millions in front of some Canadian city, bark for 30 minutes, making sure everyone is awake, and then disappear to reappear in front of another city and doing it all over.
• Wearing polar bear costumes. Not one human will encounter a polar bear close.
• Phone Bush and inform him that Canadians are like communist and terrorist in one package.
• Hire Disney for creating lovely-seal cartoons to (mis)inform the public.
• Shoot back at Canadians. The potential army power of the seals is much bigger as that of the Canadians.
• Treat Canadians as Canadians are treating seals.
• Make sure Quebec is on the side of the Seals, they could start barking in French.

Aaaaaaaaaaaand we have a thread winner!

I'd say that almost all Canadians dont really care about settling to the Netherlands, so tulips are cool.

I guess some people are not able to understand abstract ideas outside their immediate gain interest.

What I said is about justice, hypocrisy and being grateful -- not about what someone may desire or not.

THE RETURN OF THE EVIL BAMBI

I told you already before, that bamies are evil...

But now, I found some backup:

How best to deal with the menace of Bambi (http://www.reason.com/news/show/34914.html)




I'm even silent about the bloodthirsty behaviour of deer.

Those animals kill and rape humans like it is nothing. Probably they are the cause of AIDS.

And then Disney invented 'Bambi'

My War Room as of yet has no plans for European Conquest, so Europe may breathe a sigh of relief. We are currently devoting most resources to Operation: American Freedom, and our seal-clubbers will be busy on that front anyway; the cutesy seals will have a moment of respite.

I guess some people are not able to understand abstract ideas outside their immediate gain interest.


Or they are able to understand them but they simply choose not to care.


What I said is about justice, hypocrisy and being grateful -- not about what someone may desire or not.

You sound really bitter. Both your comment about Holland and your response to me ("I guess some people are not able to understand...). Get a life.

My War Room as of yet has no plans for European Conquest, so Europe may breathe a sigh of relief. We are currently devoting most resources to Operation: American Freedom, and our seal-clubbers will be busy on that front anyway; the cutesy seals will have a moment of respite.

Excuse me what? Operation American Freedom? We already have freedom thank you very much.