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Is it ever OK...

Caladh
26-09-2007, 16:23
I play for my school football team, and we started with a practise last week. We have to wear a normal football uniform; long socks, top, shorts etc. This si provided by the coach.
However, when we came to do the practise yesterday, I found that my shorts provided were, well, a bit short, and you could see my boxer shorts poking out from underneath them. The coach, despite this being his responsibility told me it was unacceptable. The shorts were white and the boxers black, but, even so, they weren't that noticeable, I think. As we were practising, there was no-one watching, it was just the team. Would you consider it rude, or would you have jsut continued just for that practise?
Smunkeeville
26-09-2007, 16:29
I would consider it rude of the coach not to get you appropriate sized shorts. In a situation like this it is the coach's responsibility for getting you appropriate clothes and if he wants to complain, he needs to complain to someone other than you.
Nihelm
26-09-2007, 16:32
the coach was complaining that the shorts he gave you were to small?


does that happen often? if so he might be complaining to cover up something...
Dempublicents1
26-09-2007, 16:32
I would consider it rude of the coach not to get you appropriate sized shorts. In a situation like this it is the coach's responsibility for getting you appropriate clothes and if he wants to complain, he needs to complain to someone other than you.

*agrees*
Caladh
26-09-2007, 16:37
I would consider it rude of the coach not to get you appropriate sized shorts. In a situation like this it is the coach's responsibility for getting you appropriate clothes and if he wants to complain, he needs to complain to someone other than you.

I don't know if he expected me to do something about the boxer shorts or what - as I blatantly couldn't do anything about the shorts.
Caladh
26-09-2007, 16:39
well, what could you have done? really? gone commando? haha.

it's his fault.

I meant next time, worn shorter ones (not that I have any shorter ones).
Smunkeeville
26-09-2007, 16:41
I don't know if he expected me to do something about the boxer shorts or what - as I blatantly couldn't do anything about the shorts.

well, what could you have done? really? gone commando? haha.

it's his fault.
Caladh
26-09-2007, 16:42
Your coach is a pedophile, he was hoping you'd forgo the boxers so he could get a look at your goodies.

In fact I'd say as much to him. You'll either get shorts that fit, or off the team.

I really don't think so, considering the fact that he doesn't come into the changing rooms - he sees us on the way out.
Khadgar
26-09-2007, 16:43
Your coach is a pedophile, he was hoping you'd forgo the boxers so he could get a look at your goodies.

In fact I'd say as much to him. You'll either get shorts that fit, or off the team.
Caladh
26-09-2007, 16:49
Sorry, it seems O ddin't provide enough information. We recieved these shorts long time ago when they fit, and, for some bizare reason, we get our new ones a month in - and there's, I suppose, not much coach can do about it. If I were to play at a game with shorts showing my boxer shorts/boxerbriefs, depending on what I was wearing, would yuo consider it rude - would it still be OK to play?
Kiryu-shi
26-09-2007, 16:51
I've seen kids play in just as bad. Not so terrible, methinks.
Smunkeeville
26-09-2007, 16:56
Sorry, it seems O ddin't provide enough information. We recieved these shorts long time ago when they fit, and, for some bizare reason, we get our new ones a month in - and there's, I suppose, not much coach can do about it. If I were to play at a game with shorts showing my boxer shorts/boxerbriefs, depending on what I was wearing, would yuo consider it rude - would it still be OK to play?

can you buy a pair of briefs just for football? I mean, I am a girl so I don't know, but I wouldn't want to run much in boxers.....like I said, I don't know.
Ashmoria
26-09-2007, 16:58
Sorry, it seems O ddin't provide enough information. We recieved these shorts long time ago when they fit, and, for some bizare reason, we get our new ones a month in - and there's, I suppose, not much coach can do about it. If I were to play at a game with shorts showing my boxer shorts/boxerbriefs, depending on what I was wearing, would yuo consider it rude - would it still be OK to play?

no its not OK to play with shorts that short. talk to your coach about getting a new pair of a size that fits right.

thats pretty short. they must have been pretty close to the same length as your undies to begin with. i dont know anything about highschool football but that seems like a length more appropriate for the cheerleaders than the players.
Caladh
26-09-2007, 16:59
can you buy a pair of briefs just for football? I mean, I am a girl so I don't know, but I wouldn't want to run much in boxers.....like I said, I don't know.

How terribly uncool!:) Not to mention uncomfortable.
Caladh
26-09-2007, 16:59
no its not OK to play with shorts that short. talk to your coach about getting a new pair of a size that fits right.

thats pretty short. they must have been pretty close to the same length as your undies to begin with. i dont know anything about highschool football but that seems like a length more appropriate for the cheerleaders than the players.

I grew quite a bit!
Caladh
26-09-2007, 17:06
I've seen kids play in just as bad. Not so terrible, methinks.

Can you say why? Just wondering why you'd say its not so terrible
Dempublicents1
26-09-2007, 17:08
Sorry, it seems O ddin't provide enough information. We recieved these shorts long time ago when they fit, and, for some bizare reason, we get our new ones a month in - and there's, I suppose, not much coach can do about it. If I were to play at a game with shorts showing my boxer shorts/boxerbriefs, depending on what I was wearing, would yuo consider it rude - would it still be OK to play?

You know, I kept trying to figure out why you would wear shorts to play football, and then I realized you're probably not from the US....

Anyways, maybe you could buy undies in the same color as the shorts? Then it wouldn't be all that noticeable.
Ashmoria
26-09-2007, 17:09
I grew quite a bit!

you must have!

its not the bit of undies showing. that is irrelevant really. its a technicality to show that the shorts are just too damned short.

is it a problem to get a new pair of shorts? maybe you can wear someone elses until a new pair can be ordered?
Caladh
26-09-2007, 17:13
Is there anyone else here who plays football who might offer an opinion/advice?
Caladh
26-09-2007, 17:15
You know, I kept trying to figure out why you would wear shorts to play football, and then I realized you're probably not from the US....

Anyways, maybe you could buy undies in the same color as the shorts? Then it wouldn't be all that noticeable.

I'm from the UK. I suppose I could buy some boxers the same colour, but they'd still be showing...
Caladh
26-09-2007, 17:16
Why does it matter if they play football?

Because it's more likely that they would have been in the same situation than a lady who looks after children, for example, and obviuosly doesn't have to wear football shorts.
Caladh
26-09-2007, 17:17
you must have!

its not the bit of undies showing. that is irrelevant really. its a technicality to show that the shorts are just too damned short.

is it a problem to get a new pair of shorts? maybe you can wear someone elses until a new pair can be ordered?

The coach seemed to make more of the boxer shorts showing than the length of the shorts.
Kiryu-shi
26-09-2007, 17:17
Can you say why? Just wondering why you'd say its not so terrible

Honestly, no one really cared. I played in briefs, just cause I found it more comfortable, but some years the uniforms featured really short shorts, and the kids who wore boxers often had boxers showing. And it looked a little silly, depending on the colors, but I certainly don't think there is anything wrong with it. Just cloth.

Then again, I played very casually. The kids I knew who played more competitively, for better, more professional looking teams probably wouldn't wear boxers like that, probably.
Dundee-Fienn
26-09-2007, 17:17
Is there anyone else here who plays football who might offer an opinion/advice?

Why does it matter if they play football?
Caladh
26-09-2007, 17:22
Honestly, no one really cared. I played in briefs, just cause I found it more comfortable, but some years the uniforms featured really short shorts, and the kids who wore boxers often had boxers showing. And it looked a little silly, depending on the colors, but I certainly don't think there is anything wrong with it. Just cloth.

Then again, I played very casually. The kids I knew who played more competitively, for better, more professional looking teams probably wouldn't wear boxers like that, probably.

I'd hate to do ti for a game, but just for practise - I don't know. then again, I'd hate to miss a game because of a pair of boxer shorts.
Kiryu-shi
26-09-2007, 17:24
Practice really shouldn't be that much of an issue, IMO.
Caladh
26-09-2007, 17:25
Practice really shouldn't be that much of an issue, IMO.

What about an actual game?
Pacificville
26-09-2007, 17:29
It is your coach's fault. You need some sweet, juicy payback. Hand an anonymous note into the school office claiming he has been molesting students. BAM! Justice!
Sarkhaan
26-09-2007, 17:30
don't wear boxers and run. Seriously.

I suggest getting a pair of these (http://www.underarmour.com/ProductDetail.cfm?site_id=1&dept_id=7&coll_id=1114&pf_id=1000666) or similar compression shorts. They'll help your performace, as well as keeping your balls from chafing and generally not feeling too good. If you get them in the same color, you woul barely notice them

I assume you have to wear a cup...are you wearing that with boxers? Because that is a bit redundant...the shorts I linked to function as both boxers and a jock, so you can put the cup in them and cover both needs.


as for the shorts, talk to the coach, tell him they don't fit. If he refuses to buy new ones, ask if you can go get a similar pair. If he still refuses, take it up with his superior.
Caladh
26-09-2007, 17:31
It is your coach's fault. You need some sweet, juicy payback. Hand an anonymous note into the school office claiming he has been molesting students. BAM! Justice!

Not exactly justice when he's done nothing of the sort. And it would be a bit hard to hand in an anonymous note to somebody who knows my name! :)
Caladh
26-09-2007, 17:39
So if the coach can't get my shorts, would it be OK for me to run around a game with my boxer shorts on display, or would it be mroe polite to sit out?
Sarkhaan
26-09-2007, 17:44
So if the coach can't get my shorts, would it be OK for me to run around a game with my boxer shorts on display, or would it be mroe polite to sit out?
honestly, that is entirely your coaches call. I see no problem with it, and wouldn't volunteer the option, but then, it is his call.
Neo Bretonnia
26-09-2007, 17:46
I play for my school football team, and we started with a practise last week. We have to wear a normal football uniform; long socks, top, shorts etc. This si provided by the coach.
However, when we came to do the practise yesterday, I found that my shorts provided were, well, a bit short, and you could see my boxer shorts poking out from underneath them. The coach, despite this being his responsibility told me it was unacceptable. The shorts were white and the boxers black, but, even so, they weren't that noticeable, I think. As we were practising, there was no-one watching, it was just the team. Would you consider it rude, or would you have jsut continued just for that practise?

I think the coach was wrong to hold it against you as if you were to blame. It seems like if ther was some absolute rule against vivible boxers then he should have either allowed you to wear something else until an apropriately sized pair of shoulrts could be acquired for you, or maybe given you a constructuve suggestion like cuffing the legs of the boxers or something to keep them from showing.
Kiryu-shi
26-09-2007, 17:50
What about an actual game?

I don't agree with the coach, but he is the coach. Generally, following your coaches instructions is good. Unless you really don't feel comfortable with anything else besides boxers.

And @ Sarkhaan, people don't wear cups for soccer/football.
Sadwillow III
26-09-2007, 17:52
Every coach I've ever encountered has been like this. It seems that PE is usually relegated to the biggest asshole on the faculty. I decided in high school that the coach was just angry that he didn't get to see my big dick in the locker room. Once I figured that out, there was no way I was taking off my underwear in the same building as that NAMBLA faggot. This leads to a lot of conflict, but the coach can go eff himself.

If he really gets on your case and you're feeling courageous, just say, "I ain't gonna let you ogle my tools, you rude little queer." He might hit you, but then you can buy new shorts with the money you get from the lawsuit.
Caladh
26-09-2007, 21:56
Thanks for your replies - if any one else has anything to add, I'll be happy to hear it!
Lackadaisical1
26-09-2007, 22:03
I play for my school football team, and we started with a practise last week. We have to wear a normal football uniform; long socks, top, shorts etc. This si provided by the coach.
However, when we came to do the practise yesterday, I found that my shorts provided were, well, a bit short, and you could see my boxer shorts poking out from underneath them. The coach, despite this being his responsibility told me it was unacceptable. The shorts were white and the boxers black, but, even so, they weren't that noticeable, I think. As we were practising, there was no-one watching, it was just the team. Would you consider it rude, or would you have jsut continued just for that practise?

I play rugby and the shorts are meant to be well, short, no1 has ever mentioned being offended by seeing my boxers.
Caladh
26-09-2007, 22:04
I play rugby and the shorts are meant to be well, short, no1 has ever mentioned being offended by seeing my boxers.

But how much can they actually see of the boxers though - it may be not as much? Is this in practise or a game?
Ifreann
27-09-2007, 15:46
I'm sure I've seen sports people on TV with boxers longer than their shorts. Rugby IMS. So yeah, can't be that bad.
Caladh
27-09-2007, 15:46
So, in rugby, it's considered ok?
Sarkhaan
27-09-2007, 15:50
I don't agree with the coach, but he is the coach. Generally, following your coaches instructions is good. Unless you really don't feel comfortable with anything else besides boxers.

And @ Sarkhaan, people don't wear cups for soccer/football.
really? hm...we used to have to when I played, but that is likely because it was a town league.

None the less, running in boxers is generally not a fun experience.
Caladh
27-09-2007, 17:46
I'm sure I've seen sports people on TV with boxers longer than their shorts. Rugby IMS. So yeah, can't be that bad.

Do you mean proffessional players, ro some local TV station with a smaller team (not that I'm proffessional, of course!)
Chuangde
27-09-2007, 18:08
If you were wearing something like bright scarlet boxer shorts or something, it might not be acceptable, as they would stand out. But at a game, or practise, I think it would be fine if you could see them (although better if you couldn't). If someone wants to talk about your boxer shorts, just ignore them - they're there to watch football not someone's underwear.
I have to admit, your kit sounds awful - short enough that you have to worry about this, and WHITE SHORTS, I feel so sorry for you when it rains!
Caladh
27-09-2007, 18:14
If you were wearing something like bright scarlet boxer shorts or something, it might not be acceptable, as they would stand out. But at a game, or practise, I think it would be fine if you could see them (although better if you couldn't). If someone wants to talk about your boxer shorts, just ignore them - they're there to watch football not someone's underwear.
I have to admit, your kit sounds awful - short enough that you have to worry about this, and WHITE SHORTS, I feel so sorry for you when it rains!

Thanks - and no, I do take care not to wear too bright ones when they're on display.
And yes, the white shorts are rather annyoing - we should have a new kit (even the coach has aksed about a billion times)
Chuangde
27-09-2007, 18:48
I would say just wear them and ignore othe rpeople - its better than, for example, soem places in the past where if you forgot it you wore your top and boxer shorts - and its unintentional, instead of when people run around with the boxer shorts showing above the waist of their trousers or shorts. And all the boys will have seen boxer shorts before, it realy shouldn't bother them - it seems that your coach si making a mountain out of a molehill.
Chuangde
27-09-2007, 18:50
Does anyone else agree with me?
Glorious Freedonia
27-09-2007, 21:19
I play for my school football team, and we started with a practise last week. We have to wear a normal football uniform; long socks, top, shorts etc. This si provided by the coach.
However, when we came to do the practise yesterday, I found that my shorts provided were, well, a bit short, and you could see my boxer shorts poking out from underneath them. The coach, despite this being his responsibility told me it was unacceptable. The shorts were white and the boxers black, but, even so, they weren't that noticeable, I think. As we were practising, there was no-one watching, it was just the team. Would you consider it rude, or would you have jsut continued just for that practise?

We had a similar problem in our track and field team when I was in school. Our shorts were pretty small and we had some episodes of guys' privates hanging out of the shorts as we ran or what have you. So what we did was we got spandex shorts of the same color as our uniform and wore them under the shorts. I wore this at a meet and was disqualified after the first time that I ever scored a point in the shotput event. I was so pissed at the guy ref/teacher that I hoped that he would die of prostate cancer and a few years later he actually did.
Caladh
28-09-2007, 16:20
We had a similar problem in our track and field team when I was in school. Our shorts were pretty small and we had some episodes of guys' privates hanging out of the shorts as we ran or what have you. So what we did was we got spandex shorts of the same color as our uniform and wore them under the shorts. I wore this at a meet and was disqualified after the first time that I ever scored a point in the shotput event. I was so pissed at the guy ref/teacher that I hoped that he would die of prostate cancer and a few years later he actually did.

How horrible (the cancer)! We've never had anything hanging out, luckily, as obviously we have boxer shorts of the proper length, even if our other shorts aren't.
Caladh
28-09-2007, 17:11
Chuangde, sorry I took so long to reply to your post; I do agree with you.

I agree that all the boys will ahve seen boxer shorts before, however, with that logic, it would be OK, if I forgot my shorts, to, instead of sitting out, run around wearing just boxers. So I'm afraid that I can't agree with the second half!
Thanks for your reply, anyway - anybody else got anything to add?
Agolthia
28-09-2007, 21:39
We had a similar problem in our track and field team when I was in school. Our shorts were pretty small and we had some episodes of guys' privates hanging out of the shorts as we ran or what have you. So what we did was we got spandex shorts of the same color as our uniform and wore them under the shorts. I wore this at a meet and was disqualified after the first time that I ever scored a point in the shotput event. I was so pissed at the guy ref/teacher that I hoped that he would die of prostate cancer and a few years later he actually did.

If you do go for wearing spandex shorts (for whatever reason), word of warning, much more comfortable without boxers. Speaking from experience (I'm a rower, we mainly wear spandex/lycra).
Lackadaisical1
28-09-2007, 22:57
But how much can they actually see of the boxers though - it may be not as much? Is this in practise or a game?

Both practices and games, and I was often the man getting lifted for the throw-ins and dunno if you know how a rugby lift is, but they could easily see all of my boxers except right around the crotch.

I have been sort of interested in getting spandex too, I can see how it'd be comfortable in some ways, but once I got used to boxers, Ive always liked to have some extra breathing room, you know? Of course if you can't afford 'em or simply can't be bothered you should be fine unless your coach makes a big deal out of it, usually best just to go with the flow for that sort of thing.
Caladh
29-09-2007, 13:53
Both practices and games, and I was often the man getting lifted for the throw-ins and dunno if you know how a rugby lift is, but they could easily see all of my boxers except right around the crotch.

I have been sort of interested in getting spandex too, I can see how it'd be comfortable in some ways, but once I got used to boxers, Ive always liked to have some extra breathing room, you know? Of course if you can't afford 'em or simply can't be bothered you should be fine unless your coach makes a big deal out of it, usually best just to go with the flow for that sort of thing.

I have to agree with the breathing room part - which was made me want to continue with the boxers in the first place.
Caladh
29-09-2007, 15:09
If you do go for wearing spandex shorts (for whatever reason), word of warning, much more comfortable without boxers. Speaking from experience (I'm a rower, we mainly wear spandex/lycra).

Thanks - but whats so uncomfortable about it with boxers? Sorry about such a stupid question!
Agolthia
29-09-2007, 16:40
Thanks - but whats so uncomfortable about it with boxers? Sorry about such a stupid question!

I dunno.I think its cause lycra and spandex is meant to be skin tight so wearing clothing under it, it rubs and stuff. Plus without boxers, its a little bit more...breezy...:p. Wearing boxers when you are running and stuff isnt the most comfortable anyway.
Caladh
29-09-2007, 17:24
I dunno.I think its cause lycra and spandex is meant to be skin tight so wearing clothing under it, it rubs and stuff. Plus without boxers, its a little bit more...breezy...:p. Wearing boxers when you are running and stuff isnt the most comfortable anyway.

Suppose so - but I still find 'breezy' boxers more comfortable than tight clothing. I think that having worn them for a long time it always feels too restrictive.
Agolthia
30-09-2007, 00:52
Suppose so - but I still find 'breezy' boxers more comfortable than tight clothing. I think that having worn them for a long time it always feels too restrictive.

Without taking the conversation into bizare places, one-peices (rowing kit) are comfortable . They are not designed to restrict you and theres plenty of movment in them and then cause they are skintight, they fit you very well so you don't get any chaffing or anything.
Caladh
30-09-2007, 13:20
OK Agolthia, thanks for the information - and no, let's not take this thread to bizzare places!
Chuangde
30-09-2007, 20:18
I think it would be fine just with the boxers showing (until you get new shorts) instead of getting spandex etc if you can't be bothered because I saw today someone from my school cycling home from football whose boxer shorts were visible - rather obviously, as they were rather brightly-coloured. No-one made any comments to him - besides his friends just messing around, shouting after him 'nice boxers mate' and things like that.
Caladh
01-10-2007, 16:20
I think it would be fine just with the boxers showing (until you get new shorts) instead of getting spandex etc if you can't be bothered because I saw today someone from my school cycling home from football whose boxer shorts were visible - rather obviously, as they were rather brightly-coloured. No-one made any comments to him - besides his friends just messing around, shouting after him 'nice boxers mate' and things like that.

OK thanks. Only thing is, we have to have a team phtot taken on Wedensday - aaaah! I can't do that with my boxer shorts poking out! But I HAVE to be in the photo - what should I do?
Chuangde
01-10-2007, 21:30
For your photo on Wednesday you could just go as normal but wear white boxers to match your white shorts so that it is not so noticeable. OR just wear your shorts lower so that your boxer are more covered (but obviously keep the top part of your boxers no longer covered by your shorts covered my your top) so that they don't show so much.
Tuo
01-10-2007, 22:57
Could you hem the legs of your boxers? Or would that make them too short? I'm not a fan of short shorts (or boxers worn as underwear, they do make fine pyjama bottoms), so I'd definately be getting a new pair of shorts asap.
Caladh
02-10-2007, 17:12
Could you hem the legs of your boxers? Or would that make them too short? I'm not a fan of short shorts (or boxers worn as underwear, they do make fine pyjama bottoms), so I'd definately be getting a new pair of shorts asap.

Then they'd unfortunately be too short. And I can't get new shorts until they come into stock
Caladh
02-10-2007, 21:47
I'm still stuck as to what to do and its tomorrow! Can anyone help?
Chuangde
03-10-2007, 18:45
I'm still stuck as to what to do and its tomorrow! Can anyone help?

Don't know if you missed it, but I made a suggestion further back - although what I suggested wouldn't work if you had to sit down, unfortunately.
Dundee-Fienn
03-10-2007, 18:57
I'm still stuck as to what to do and its tomorrow! Can anyone help?

Stop caring about it since it's not actually a big deal