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Belgian disabled people get their sex via prostitutes

In Belgium, disabled (http://www.indah.nl/uk/indiadiscovery/hajj2005/arab7-300.jpg) ones want sex as well.

More and more presidents of hospitals hire professional sex-workers to fill in this need.

Belgian law isn’t supporting these deeds.

While prostitution is legal, technical, the presidents could be accused of ‘arranging prostitution' and that's unlawfull.

Why oh why, is prostitution illegal in almost any country but are they very visible at the same time?

Some Sources:
http://www.standaard.be/Artikel/Detail.aspx?artikelId=DE1HNRLF
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05146/510877.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Belgium
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1537366.html
http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/timetotalksex/timetotalksex_feat1.htm

Belgian disabilities get their sex via prostitutes

In Belgium, disabilities want sex as well.

That's lovely for them, but nobody (disabled or not) is entitled to use another person's body for their personal gratification.

In other words, you may want a million dollars, too, but that doesn't mean anybody is obligated to provide it for you.


More and more presidents of hospitals hire professional sex-workers to fill in this need.

Belgian law isn’t supporting these deeds.

I should hope not. Presidents of hospitals should be worrying about a whole crapton of more important things.


While prostitution is legal, technical, the presidents could be accused of ‘arranging prostitution' and that's unlawfull.

Why oh why, is prostitution illegal in almost any country but are they very visible at the same time?
Because the use of female human beings as sex toys is a requisite part of patriarchy. By passing nominal laws against prostitution, it becomes far more easy to control prostitutes. Since the purpose of prostitution is to designate a sex class to function as a human sewer for the rest of society, it is helpful to emphasize this by making sure that their work is degraded and marginalized as much as possible.

What's a Belgian disability?

What's a Belgian disability?

Vlaams Belang?

What's a Belgian disability?

Not everybody is a native English speaker around here.

Source?

Source?

http://www.standaard.be/Artikel/Detail.aspx?artikelid=DE1HNRLF

Keeping it illegal give a moral stand point even if everybody know it will always exist...

Making it legal could become a crap load of fun (sarcasm) to determine witch act could be ok (plain normal sex) vs witch act would still be forbidden (use your one imagination)!

Keeping it illegal give a moral stand point even if everybody know it will always exist...

Making it legal could become a crap load of fun (sarcasm) to determine witch act could be ok (plain normal sex) vs witch act would still be forbidden (use your one imagination)!


Well it's legal in Belgium, Holland and a few other European countries.

I am never wondering which kind of sex is still forbidden...

Prostitution is not a kind of plague here and no, not all men suddenly visit hookers.

I think it is rather hypocrite. Even in Arab countries there's something as prostitution. *Everybody* knows the addresses and local governments allow it till a sudden point...

A victimless service paid for a is a victimless service rendered. And a willing prostitute is not a victim any more than a willing worker is a slave.

Sometimes they're not willing...

So, hiring a prostitute is legal, but hiring a prostitute for someone else isn't?



Why?

So, hiring a prostitute is legal, but hiring a prostitute for someone else isn't?



Why?

To target lover-boys and pimps

Odd.

http://www.standaard.be/Artikel/Detail.aspx?artikelid=DE1HNRLF

...gee... thanks... - if it was in French I might stand a chance at reading it.

That's lovely for them, but nobody (disabled or not) is entitled to use another person's body for their personal gratification.

Not against the other person's will, but if that person is willing to lend her body in exchange of money by mutual agreement, where's the harm in that?

Because the use of female human beings as sex toys is a requisite part of patriarchy. By passing nominal laws against prostitution, it becomes far more easy to control prostitutes. Since the purpose of prostitution is to designate a sex class to function as a human sewer for the rest of society, it is helpful to emphasize this by making sure that their work is degraded and marginalized as much as possible.

Men want sex. I might even say that most men want more sex than they can have. Prolonged deprivation of sex has nasty effects on a man's psyche, and you can call those men losers or wussies or whatever all you want; it still won't help them get laid, and therefore will not do anything to solve anyone's problems. That is a problem only sex can help alleviate, and that is the purpose of prostitution.

Of course, I'm talking about prostitutes, who are in the business willingly. Trafficking sex slaves from poor countries is a big problem, but it has very little to do with prostitution itself, and banning prostitution to stop that would be like banning cars to stop drunk driving.

I've never used the services of prostitutes myself, but if someone has, I won't hold it agaist them. I have much respect for prostitutes for doing important work for the well-being of society.

...gee... thanks... - if it was in French I might stand a chance at reading it.


Try

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

It's not perfect but you will be able to read the article.

Not against the other person's will, but if that person is willing to lend her body in exchange of money by mutual agreement, where's the harm in that?



Men want sex. I might even say that most men want more sex than they can have. Prolonged deprivation of sex has nasty effects on a man's psyche, and you can call those men losers or wussies or whatever all you want; it still won't help them get laid, and therefore will not do anything to solve anyone's problems. That is a problem only sex can help alleviate, and that is the purpose of prostitution.

Of course, I'm talking about prostitutes, who are in the business willingly. Trafficking sex slaves from poor countries is a big problem, but it has very little to do with prostitution itself, and banning prostitution to stop that would be like banning cars to stop drunk driving.

I've never used the services of prostitutes myself, but if someone has, I won't hold it agaist them. I have much respect for prostitutes for doing important work for the well-being of society.

I object to this post because I think prostitution and paying for sex should be an equal opportunity business regardless of your gender, desired gender or transgender.

That is, in case prostitution is legal (and well supervised) in the first place.

Vlaams Belang?

:D:D:D

Heerlijk!

I object to this post because I think prostitution and paying for sex should be an equal opportunity business regardless of your gender, desired gender or transgender.

That is, in case prostitution is legal (and well supervised) in the first place.

Right you are. I'm sorry, and I hereby apologize to all male, homosexual, and transgender prostitutes, who felt left out in my previous post.

Also, I'll add that women, too, want sex, and although I have no personal experience in the matter, would assume that not getting enough might mentally scar them.

Sorry again.

Right you are. I'm sorry, and I hereby apologize to all male, homosexual, and transgender prostitutes, who felt left out in my previous post.

Also, I'll add that women, too, want sex, and although I have no personal experience in the matter, would assume that not getting enough might mentally scar them.

Sorry again.

You're forgiven :p

they would be better off in holand where the state pays the sex worker

Belgian disabled people get their sex via prostitutes

In Belgium, disabled (http://www.indah.nl/uk/indiadiscovery/hajj2005/arab7-300.jpg) ones want sex as well.

More and more presidents of hospitals hire professional sex-workers to fill in this need.

Belgian law isn’t supporting these deeds.

While prostitution is legal, technical, the presidents could be accused of ‘arranging prostitution' and that's unlawfull.

Why oh why, is prostitution illegal in almost any country but are they very visible at the same time?

Some Sources:
http://www.standaard.be/Artikel/Detail.aspx?artikelId=DE1HNRLF
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05146/510877.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Belgium
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1537366.html
http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/timetotalksex/timetotalksex_feat1.htm


See article below - Uncyclopedia explains everything.

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Prostitution

bitchy-rant
I don't see what you're complaining about, these working girls are getting a nice government subsidy through the hospital system, and what little legal risk is involved is being entirely bourne by the hospital staff. Looks all up, from the feminist perspective.

On the other hand, from the perspective of someone who doesn't believe that government should be wasting money on such frivolous pursuits, I personally hope that all the Hospital presidents involved are arrested on fraud charges. There's nothing wrong with hiring whores, but doing so with government euros is just not cool.

Belgian disabled people get their sex via prostitutes

In Belgium, disabled (http://www.indah.nl/uk/indiadiscovery/hajj2005/arab7-300.jpg) ones want sex as well.

More and more presidents of hospitals hire professional sex-workers to fill in this need.

Belgian law isn’t supporting these deeds.

While prostitution is legal, technical, the presidents could be accused of ‘arranging prostitution' and that's unlawfull.

Why oh why, is prostitution illegal in almost any country but are they very visible at the same time?

Some Sources:
http://www.standaard.be/Artikel/Detail.aspx?artikelId=DE1HNRLF
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05146/510877.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Belgium
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1537366.html
http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/timetotalksex/timetotalksex_feat1.htm


Note to self: MOVE TO BELGIUM!!!:D

Not everybody is a native English speaker around here.I know. I am not one myself. And?

they would be better off in holand where the state pays the sex worker

Oh? I haven't heard about that :p

There has been at least one case where someone ended up getting benefits to pay for a sex worker. I think the claim was because he was disabled he couldn't go out for sex and that was causing him psychological harm.

Keeping it illegal give a moral stand point even if everybody know it will always exist...

Making it legal could become a crap load of fun (sarcasm) to determine witch act could be ok (plain normal sex) vs witch act would still be forbidden (use your one imagination)!

Why should any sex for money exchange be illegal?

"I don't understand why prostitution is illegal. Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. Why isn't selling fucking legal? You know, why should it be illegal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away? I can't follow the logic on that one at all! Of all the things you can do, giving someone an orgasm is hardly the worst thing in the world. In the army they give you a medal for spraying napalm on people! In civilian life you go to jail for giving someone an orgasm!"

Belgian disabled people get their sex via prostitutes

In Belgium, disabled (http://www.indah.nl/uk/indiadiscovery/hajj2005/arab7-300.jpg) ones want sex as well.

More and more presidents of hospitals hire professional sex-workers to fill in this need.

Belgian law isn’t supporting these deeds.

While prostitution is legal, technical, the presidents could be accused of ‘arranging prostitution' and that's unlawfull.

Why oh why, is prostitution illegal in almost any country but are they very visible at the same time?

Some Sources:
http://www.standaard.be/Artikel/Detail.aspx?artikelId=DE1HNRLF
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05146/510877.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Belgium
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1537366.html
http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/timetotalksex/timetotalksex_feat1.htm

Is English not your native language or are you dyslexic?

Now there is a healthcare system I can get behind :p

First of all guys, give him a fucking break. He's Flemish...he speaks Dutch, English is not his language and he's posting on an English server and doing a damn good job of it.

Second of all....aside from some hard core feminazis (Bottle), most people don't see a huge problem with this because most people on here have (socially, atleast) libertarian tendancies and tend to have nothing against prostitution. The only problem that honestly makes this troubling is it's public money....

First of all guys, give him a fucking break. He's Flemish...he speaks Dutch, English is not his language and he's posting on an English server and doing a damn good job of it.

Second of all....aside from some hard core feminazis (Bottle), most people don't see a huge problem with this because most people on here have (socially, atleast) libertarian tendancies and tend to have nothing against prostitution. The only problem that honestly makes this troubling is it's public money....

There is a big difference between prostitution and sex work. One is consensual, and the other not. (thats my definition, anyway)

Try

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

It's not perfect but you will be able to read the article.

Uhm... I'd have used it except it doesn't do Dutch. I checked before deciding to whine or insert some random sarcastic comment without adding any substance to the thread.

Is English not your native language or are you dyslexic?

English isn't his first language.

Uhm... I'd have used it except it doesn't do Dutch.
:D Yes it does.

Perhaps some glasses are in order?:p

:D Yes it does.

Perhaps some glasses are in order?:p

I already wear glasses. :p and no, I don't need bifocals... I'm not THAT old.

What's a Belgian disability?

allergic to beer and frieten.

Is English not your native language or are you dyslexic?

Boht. Eh Both :)

Uhm... I'd have used it except it doesn't do Dutch. I checked before deciding to whine or insert some random sarcastic comment without adding any substance to the thread.



English isn't his first language.


Babelfish is doing Dutch to English translations. I checked that one as well.

In fact, I even tried out the Standaard source and ok it was not perfect but one should be able to read it.

It's translating better than I do :)

Well it's all very interesting.

Frankly I cannot see why people object to government money being used if they're totally okay with prostitution.

Would you be upset with the government spending money on physiotherapists?

We're saying there's this psychological need and that to alleviate that problem, a professional is hired.

I'd like a coherent reason why governments, through public hospitals, should not pay for this service to disabled people, one that does not question prostitution itself.

Well it's all very interesting.

Frankly I cannot see why people object to government money being used if they're totally okay with prostitution.

Would you be upset with the government spending money on physiotherapists?

We're saying there's this psychological need and that to alleviate that problem, a professional is hired.

I'd like a coherent reason why governments, through public hospitals, should not pay for this service to disabled people, one that does not question prostitution itself.

I'm not sure if the government is paying the bill.

It's possible that the presidents of those hosiptals just phone the hookers and the disabled ones actual pay the bill.

I'm not sure if the government is paying the bill.

It's possible that the presidents of those hosiptals just phone the hookers and the disabled ones actual pay the bill.

Thanks but that's irrelevant to be honest - there's people who posted saying they're troubled by the government paying for these services although they have absolutely no qualms about prostitution.

I'm wondering as to that disparity - what troubles them?

If it's a service applied to a specific medical need, why the problem?

Thanks but that's irrelevant to be honest - there's people who posted saying they're troubled by the government paying for these services although they have absolutely no qualms about prostitution.

I'm wondering as to that disparity - what troubles them?

If it's a service applied to a specific medical need, why the problem?

I think it is because we don't tend to view sex as a medical need, but mroe as a recreational activity.
Personally i don't have any problems with it, being disabled is f-d up enough by itself, providing these people with a sexual release is just good practice.

I’ve some mixed feelings about prostitution.

In its pure form, it should be acceptable.

If girls or boys really like it to sell their body for money, ok, that’s fine for them. We should allow this.

On the other hand, some people, with “no choice” are forced to enter the prostitution world.
Forced by other people, or forced by economical reasons.

For these kinds of people, being a hooker should be illegal.

But how will one check this condition? It’s not possible.

Prostitutes do a wonderful job. It are a kind of civilian green berets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Special_Forces). They are preventing that rapists, paedophiles and other perverts are active in our society.

Sure they can’t stop them all, but without hookers the streets would be less safe.

Prostitutes do a wonderful job. It are a kind of civilian green berets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Special_Forces). They are preventing that rapists, paedophiles and other perverts are active in our society.
.

<que mental picture of a recruitment poster> :D

I think it is because we don't tend to view sex as a medical need, but mroe as a recreational activity.
Personally i don't have any problems with it, being disabled is f-d up enough by itself, providing these people with a sexual release is just good practice.

I'm sure public hospitals provide recreational facilities and, above and beyond that, specialists who cater to the needs of disabled people.

My question is: if it's just another job and it caters to a specific need, why shouldn't the government pay for those disabled and disadvantaged people who may not be able to afford sexual services.

My guess is that people don't see it as just another job - that in some way it's different - but I'd like to understand how.

Frankly, given we're now ascribing high moral purpose to prostitution, I'm surprised the work isn't done pro bono.