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The Proper Term for French Fries?

The Scandinvans
26-09-2007, 02:53
Well, this may or may not have been done, but what do you guys think of the name French Fries for French Fries, do you think it should be something else, and if yes which of the choices do you prefer?
Infinite Revolution
26-09-2007, 03:01
skinny chips.
Posi
26-09-2007, 03:03
Fries.
Gauthier
26-09-2007, 03:04
Pommes frite.
Tape worm sandwiches
26-09-2007, 03:10
Perhaps
Fried Potato Slices
would be best

or maybe Yetti
Theoretical Physicists
26-09-2007, 03:15
"fries" or "chips"
Katganistan
26-09-2007, 03:21
I prefer good old American "french fries", but if someone feels they just have to be an ass, they could call them "pomme frites" or "julienned potatoes."

Is this even an issue anymore? it's not like 99.99999% of the American public gave a shit and stopped calling them french fries.
Sarkhaan
26-09-2007, 03:25
French Fried Potatos if you must be pendantic.

I'll stick with french fries.
Luporum
26-09-2007, 03:26
I like the idea of numbering my Halo Fries, eating all of them, except for number 117. Then Fry 117 battles against the overwhelming Covenant that is the Cheeseburger consisting of many ingredients. In the end it's delicious, and I end up in a straight jacket.
Bann-ed
26-09-2007, 03:30
Whatever gets em in mah bellah! :)
The Atlantian islands
26-09-2007, 03:31
I like the idea of numbering my Halo Fries, eating all of them, except for number 117. Then Fry 117 battles against the overwhelming Covenant that is the Cheeseburger consisting of many ingredients. In the end it's delicious, and I end up in a straight jacket.
I woulnd't be a normal human if I didn't admit I was laughing when I finished reading that.

And...."Freedom Fries" is so ridiculous. We tried to do that with sauerkraut during WWI (or was it II?) by calling it "Freedom Cabbage"....
Keruvalia
26-09-2007, 03:33
For the non-Americans out there who think Americans are stupid for calling them "french" when they're not, the "french" referrs to the cut of the potato, not the place of origin.

A french cut fried potato (french fries for short) is the standard for the US.

What you call "chips" or "pommes frite", we call "steak fries".
Bann-ed
26-09-2007, 03:34
We could just be realistic and call them 'Unhealthy'.

At least, the mainstream types are. The lesser known alternative bands generally play better mus...wait.. oh, fries. Yea, call them unhealthy.
Smunkeeville
26-09-2007, 03:34
we call them French fried potatoes around here, there are also fried potatoes that are nothing like French fried potatoes being they are cut differently fried differently and have a different texture when done.
New Stalinberg
26-09-2007, 03:35
I liked French fried potaters.
HotRodia
26-09-2007, 03:35
Frahd taters.
Smunkeeville
26-09-2007, 03:38
Frahd taters.

now, being from Texas you must know that fried taters are in fact the same as fried potatoes and are not in any way shape or form similar to french fries.
Cookesland
26-09-2007, 03:44
I like French Fries
Jeruselem
26-09-2007, 03:51
Yummy! :D

I'd call them Belgium Fries but never mind.
Similization
26-09-2007, 03:55
Chips.
Wilgrove
26-09-2007, 03:56
They should be called Freedom Fries, because those wimpy French deserves nothing that has their name in it! Why they won't help us in Iraq so no, I will not call them French Fries, but instead Freedom Fries! Never mind the fact that they helped my country gain it's independence!

If you can't tell that I was joking, then I feel sorry for you.
Keruvalia
26-09-2007, 03:58
they're chips.

Not the same. I explain above.
Luporum
26-09-2007, 03:58
They should be called Freedom Fries, because those wimpy French deserves nothing that has their name in it! Why they won't help us in Iraq so no, I will not call them French Fries, but instead Freedom Fries! Never mind the fact that they helped my country gain it's independence!

The kicker is that they embargoed sugar imports immediately afterwards until we paid them compensation. :p
Soviestan
26-09-2007, 03:59
they're chips.
Saige Dragon
26-09-2007, 04:00
Dirty Frog Spuds.
HotRodia
26-09-2007, 04:01
now, being from Texas you must know that fried taters are in fact the same as fried potatoes and are not in any way shape or form similar to french fries.

Yes, I know the difference. But they're quite similar, actually. I've made both. The preparation and cooking are somewhat different, but the result is the same delicious greasy goodness. :)
Upper Botswavia
26-09-2007, 04:02
I was so disgusted by the whole "Freedom Fries" thing when it happened that I went into a place that had a big sign outside that proclaimed that they sold freedom fries, and, in a loud voice, ordered french fries, with the promise that if they even SUGGESTED that they were called freedom fries, which indicated an astounding lack of understanding of the cooking term 'french cut', of world politics, of the extremely bad position our idiot-in-chief had put us on the world stage, and, in fact, of plain old common sense in general, I was going to be extremely annoyed. Apparently I was either not the first to do so, or sufficiently scary that the kids behind the counter just gave me the fries and said "Enjoy them ma'am."

The next day, the sign had been removed.
Keruvalia
26-09-2007, 04:08
that's because you're crazy.

Only on the first tuesday after the full moon and it's cloudy.
Infinite Revolution
26-09-2007, 04:08
For the non-Americans out there who think Americans are stupid for calling them "french" when they're not, the "french" referrs to the cut of the potato, not the place of origin.

A french cut fried potato (french fries for short) is the standard for the US.

What you call "chips" or "pommes frite", we call "steak fries".

that's because you're crazy.
Zoingo
26-09-2007, 04:09
They should be called Freedom Fries, because those wimpy French deserves nothing that has their name in it! Why they won't help us in Iraq so no, I will not call them French Fries, but instead Freedom Fries! Never mind the fact that they helped my country gain it's independence!
If you can't tell that I was joking, then I feel sorry for you.

Ha ha! I knew that their was some mysterious text somewhere.

Seriously, definitly French Fries, Freedom Fries sounds like we had to gain our freedom just to eat fries..........
Masregal
26-09-2007, 04:10
I prefer good old American "french fries", but if someone feels they just have to be an ass, they could call them "pomme frites" or "julienned potatoes."

Is this even an issue anymore? it's not like 99.99999% of the American public gave a shit and stopped calling them french fries.

The "Good ol' American" is either Freedom Fires or American Fries.


Yes, I have really seen American Fries. I stopped going to Johnny Rockets because of that, even though I liked their jukebox/background music.

Then I became a vegetarian, so burger joints aren't the highest on my list anyway...
HotRodia
26-09-2007, 04:10
that's because you're crazy.

People can't drive you to a place you're already in. *nod*
Infinite Revolution
26-09-2007, 04:11
I was so disgusted by the whole "Freedom Fries" thing when it happened that I went into a place that had a big sign outside that proclaimed that they sold freedom fries, and, in a loud voice, ordered french fries, with the promise that if they even SUGGESTED that they were called freedom fries, which indicated an astounding lack of understanding of the cooking term 'french cut', of world politics, of the extremely bad position our idiot-in-chief had put us on the world stage, and, in fact, of plain old common sense in general, I was going to be extremely annoyed. Apparently I was either not the first to do so, or sufficiently scary that the kids behind the counter just gave me the fries and said "Enjoy them ma'am."

The next day, the sign had been removed.

you're a ma'am? *had no idea*
Snafturi
26-09-2007, 04:14
Um, chips?
Luporum
26-09-2007, 04:19
I disagree. The "stupid American" is either Freedom or American fries.

The "incredibly apathetic American" is either solid food or liquid food.
Zoingo
26-09-2007, 04:20
I disagree. The "stupid American" is either Freedom or American fries.

ROFL!
:D
Katganistan
26-09-2007, 04:20
The "Good ol' American" is either Freedom Fires or American Fries.

I disagree. The "stupid American" is either Freedom or American fries.
Upper Botswavia
26-09-2007, 04:35
you're a ma'am? *had no idea*

That I am! :D
Subistratica
26-09-2007, 06:23
You know, Freedom Fries has a nice ring to it... just like Victory Gin...

I'm quite sure that calling them "french fries" has nothing to do with the country of France, and anyways no one ever seemed to have a problem with calling them that before.
United Beleriand
26-09-2007, 07:17
Well, this may or may not have been done, but what do you guys think of the name French Fries for French Fries, do you think it should be something else, and if yes which of the choices do you prefer?Fried potato sticks.
Gauthier
26-09-2007, 07:25
The kicker is that they embargoed sugar imports immediately afterwards until we paid them compensation. :p

That and the Senator who wanted them called Freedom Fries is now in opposition to the Iraq occupation.

:D
Daistallia 2104
26-09-2007, 07:28
For the non-Americans out there who think Americans are stupid for calling them "french" when they're not, the "french" referrs to the cut of the potato, not the place of origin.

This is a difficult one. The etymology is murky. It could be either from french cut or France. The first mention of them in America is Jefferson's calling them “potatoes fried in the French manner.” It is unclear whether "in the French manner” was intened to mean "the style used in France" or "french cut".
Anti-Social Darwinism
26-09-2007, 08:00
We just call them fries, as in, "Ya want fries with that?"
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
26-09-2007, 08:01
They're called "deep fat fried potato sticks (or wedges)" around here. I don't know where all you people get these names from. :confused:
Keruvalia
26-09-2007, 08:03
This is a difficult one. The etymology is murky. It could be either from french cut or France. The first mention of them in America is Jefferson's calling them “potatoes fried in the French manner.” It is unclear whether "in the French manner” was intened to mean "the style used in France" or "french cut".

I heard a story once that the guy who introduced the snack garnish at a World's Fair was from Paris .... Texas. The reporter got it wrong and assumed Paris, France.

Don't remember where I heard that.
Sylvonia
26-09-2007, 08:12
I haven't heard a lot of these names in a while. But most people in my tiny little speck of a town seem to agree that they're deep fat fried. Course, that could be a Minnesota or Midwestern thing in general. Generally though, it's fries, potato sticks, or deep fat french fries.
What we DO know however is that they originated in the USA.
The originals were French-style cut.
They're also known as sticks of a slow death.
Callisdrun
26-09-2007, 08:19
French Fries.

But really, who gives a damn?
Pure Metal
26-09-2007, 08:36
Chips.

QFT



did 7 people really vote for Freedom Fries? :rolleyes:
Wilgrove
26-09-2007, 08:38
QFT



did 7 people really vote for Freedom Fries? :rolleyes:

I did it, as a joke. :D
Cameroi
26-09-2007, 09:14
like most things that have the name of some country or another in them, or are supposedly attrebuted to one, they have nothing to do with any such silliness.

and calling everything that has anything to do with food 'french' is pretty silly also. that being said, the REASON right wing loonies wanted to come up with another name for them really ices the cake of loonacy though.

the brits have been calling them chipps for ever. of course we yanks can't do that because we call what they call crisps chips.

i think the poll option of deep fried grease balls pretty much fits what they most usually are though.

once upon a time they may have been deep fried juliened potatoes. maybe, if you're lucky, there might be a few places where you still actually get those. i don't know. pretty seriously doubt you will in you local fast 'food' greasaria though. even respectable kitchens get these frozen things that are made out of reconstituted potatoe flour. i'm not kidding. or one place i worked, had this little kind of pug mill gizmo, that you put your instant mashed, the reconstituted potatoe flour crap i'm talking about, in one end, and it spit out these things, that were the same exact thing as what most restaurants buy from their suppliers frozen.

THOSE are what get thrown in the hot grease and come out, so call fries.

so i think deep fried grease balls is probably the most accurate option in the poll.

oh did i mention, i'm no great enthusiast of them, by ANY name!

and yes, all this silliness over what anyone calls the damd things, that started because a country america couldn't have gotten away with perfuntorily militarily invading, for a very short while refused to kiss its butt, is just plain, something to wast words and the space to store them over.

=^^=
.../\...
Pure Metal
26-09-2007, 09:16
I did it, as a joke. :D

hehe, i was tempted to vote for grease balls, but i lack my humour glands at this ungodly time in the morning :P
Ifreann
26-09-2007, 09:45
QFT



did 7 people really vote for Freedom Fries? :rolleyes:

8 now :)
Daistallia 2104
26-09-2007, 09:54
I heard a story once that the guy who introduced the snack garnish at a World's Fair was from Paris .... Texas. The reporter got it wrong and assumed Paris, France.

Don't remember where I heard that.

LOL Even though that's funny, it's almost certainly a false etymology.
Demented Hamsters
26-09-2007, 09:55
'Chunks of rancid oil clotted together by bitza vegetable starch' is my preferred term for them.
Just rolls off the tongue (unlike the fries themselves that cement themselves to your stomach lining).
FreedomEverlasting
26-09-2007, 09:59
Freedom Fries.

You are free to put garbage into your system
You are free to be obese
You are free to slowly poison your kids

I mean french cut, yea yea but freedom fries still fits the product better.
Demented Hamsters
26-09-2007, 10:05
I liked French fried potaters.
Surely you mean, "I like them French fried potaters...MmmmMmm"
Demented Hamsters
26-09-2007, 10:06
Am I the only to notice the poll option, "Solid Greece balls"?
Quite what a fried potato stick has to do with the malleability of a Grecian's testes is beyond me.
Edwinasia
26-09-2007, 11:04
Dutch fries?

Are you kidding? These are not eatable and so are the French "French fries"

The best fries are produced in Belgium, it's one of our national symbols.

French fries are probably invented in Belgium...

You find the most frituries by square mile in Belgium.
The first 'frietkot' ("Max en Fritz") was located in Antwerp in 1862.

The first historical evidence for fries, goes back to 1680. The poor people around Dinant and Liege (both are located in Belgium) were used to frie their fish but when the river was frozen and they couldn't fish, they cut their potatoes in the length and fried them in oil.

Belgians are the heaviest consumers of fries.

So it should be nothing else as Belgian Fries.

Americans call it French fries due the verb "to french".

There's some urban legend about the 'French' origin: American soldiers that arrived here at the end of WW II mixed up Belgium with France. (At that time, Americans their geographical knowledge was poor, so not like it is present times, doh!)
Hamilay
26-09-2007, 11:21
Just to be different, shoestring fries ftw.
Ariddia
26-09-2007, 11:42
On appelle ça des frites.
Risottia
26-09-2007, 11:42
French fries.

Anyway, the most appropriated name would be Belgian Fries (or Belgian Bits as someone said in another thread).
Everonia
26-09-2007, 12:54
deep-fried diced things that I put and my mouth, chew and digest, to much delight.
Ulrichland
26-09-2007, 12:59
"Freedom Fries" sorta grew on me.
[NS:]The HURD
26-09-2007, 13:00
Fritten!
Daistallia 2104
26-09-2007, 13:00
Americans call it French fries due the verb "to french".

There's some urban legend about the 'French' origin: American soldiers that arrived here at the end of WW II mixed up Belgium with France. (At that time, Americans their geographical knowledge was poor, so not like it is present times, doh!)

As I posted above, the etymology is murky. It is not at clear that the "french" in either "french fried potatoes" or “potatoes fried in the French manner” actually means "french cut". Nor is it clear that it does not.

By the way, the verb "to french" in cooking has come to mean to cut in long, slender strips, and some people insist that "french fries" come from that term. However, the French fried potato was known since the middle 1800s, while the OED cites the first use of the verb "to french" around 1895, so it appears pretty convincing that "french fried potatoes" came before the verb "frenching." The origin of the name is thus the country of origin French and not the cooking term french.
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mfrenchfry.html
Ulrichland
26-09-2007, 13:02
I should mention I prefer mashed potatoes, baked potatoes or fried potatoes over freedom fries.
Everonia
26-09-2007, 13:06
Why does there have to be an adjective anyways? Can't it just be fries?
GrandBill II
26-09-2007, 13:59
Pommes frite.

I personally prefer "Patate frite", sound more greasy.

Hummm, poutine...
Law Abiding Criminals
26-09-2007, 14:47
Any place that advertised "freedom fries" back in the day, I actively refused to patronize with my business.

Really, though, "French fries" is a little dated, anyway, what with the whole abbreving trends of today.

Simply "fries" is sufficient.
The Blaatschapen
26-09-2007, 15:54
Well, this may or may not have been done, but what do you guys think of the name French Fries for French Fries, do you think it should be something else, and if yes which of the choices do you prefer?

In Dutch we use "Vlaamse Frieten" which translates to "Flemish Fries". It has alliteration so it must be correct *nod*

Can I ask why there's a poll option saying "Dutch Fries"? :)
Cheese penguins
26-09-2007, 16:00
Considering you asked for the proper term of french fries i have to say french fries...
CharlieCat
26-09-2007, 16:01
chips
Andaluciae
26-09-2007, 16:29
The original term, if my recollections are correct, was French Fried Potatoes. They are named after the method of frying, and the name was merely contracted after the fact to the shorter "French Fry".
Daistallia 2104
26-09-2007, 16:45
The original term, if my recollections are correct, was French Fried Potatoes. They are named after the method of frying, and the name was merely contracted after the fact to the shorter "French Fry".

Actually (and for the third time now), the correct etymology is unclear.
(:headbang: Why can't NSG read? :headbang:)
Sarkhaan
26-09-2007, 17:17
Actually (and for the third time now), the correct etymology is unclear.
(:headbang: Why can't NSG read? :headbang:)

I don't know...I heard it was "french" as in "to cut thin strips"


*ducks out of way of shoe about to be thrown at head*
Gataway
26-09-2007, 17:32
fried tater sticks is the only acceptable term :p
Dumfook
26-09-2007, 17:37
frites.
Gataway
26-09-2007, 17:40
frites.

How would that be pronounced like...Fright...or frites like titties
GrandBill II
26-09-2007, 19:45
How would that be pronounced like...Fright...or frites like titties

tits... Something like free-it but more like fr-it...
Isidoor
26-09-2007, 19:55
Belgian fries for obvious reasons, but French fries are already well known and the word alliterates. Fried pieces of potato would also be nice, because that's what it is. I don't care, and I'll keep calling them frieten.
Gataway
26-09-2007, 19:56
tits... Something like free-it but more like fr-it...

Ah I see
Soviestan
26-09-2007, 21:09
QFT



did 7 people really vote for Freedom Fries? :rolleyes:

I voted for them only because chips wasn't an option.
Accipiti
26-09-2007, 21:32
pommes frites
OR
chips
Sel Appa
26-09-2007, 21:38
I hereby boycott the poll because it does not include Belgian Fries, Fries, and chips as options.
New Manvir
26-09-2007, 22:07
technically they're Belgian...but why not just call them fries...
Swilatia
26-09-2007, 22:18
Pommes Frites.
New Limacon
26-09-2007, 23:11
I like the term "raw pig heart." Then when people ask what you're eating, you can say, "raw pig hearts." Granted, it makes no sense, but that doesn't mean it's not a good idea.

Oh, wait...actually it does.
Cabra West
27-09-2007, 08:48
Well, this may or may not have been done, but what do you guys think of the name French Fries for French Fries, do you think it should be something else, and if yes which of the choices do you prefer?

Chips.
Electronic Church
27-09-2007, 09:02
dutch fries?

the belgium people invented / the fries :D lol
Indri
27-09-2007, 09:33
You guys talkin' 'bout freedom fires? I love freedom fries. Nothing better than freedom fries 'cept liberty cabage.
Edwinasia
27-09-2007, 10:29
I like the term "raw pig heart." Then when people ask what you're eating, you can say, "raw pig hearts." Granted, it makes no sense, but that doesn't mean it's not a good idea.

Oh, wait...actually it does.

Raw Pig Hearts eh?

I will not answer that one next time I'm in the mosque
Sylvonia
27-09-2007, 14:20
Raw Pig Hearts eh?

I will not answer that one next time I'm in the mosque

I wouldn't answer that one to save my life!
German Nightmare
27-09-2007, 14:32
"Pommes!" *nods*
New Granada
27-09-2007, 17:05
I saw them listed as 'fried fries' on a menu here in China recently.
Sadwillow III
27-09-2007, 21:56
Frog Legs
New new nebraska
27-09-2007, 22:55
"I'll have some Freedom Fries with my Victory Cabbage."There Fench Fries the end!Freedom fires isn't patriotism its more like nationlism.
New new nebraska
27-09-2007, 22:59
The original term, if my recollections are correct, was French Fried Potatoes. They are named after the method of frying, and the name was merely contracted after the fact to the shorter "French Fry".

True but.....they actually did originate in France when people sliced and French fired potatoes during the French Revolution in France.Say it on the history channel when they had that thing on the French Revolution.
Phantomstar15
27-09-2007, 23:37
I just call them "Fries". :p
United Beleriand
27-09-2007, 23:48
American Fat Fries...