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Bush as Saddam magazine cover stirs controversy (http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/TopStories/ContentPosting.aspx?feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V2&showbyline=True&newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20070923%2fMaclean_graham_070923)

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Bush is depicted on the cover dressed as Saddam Hussein, complete with a moustache, beret and military attire.

Freelance journalist Patrick Graham, who wrote the story, said the idea came from a comment made to him during a recent trip to Iraq.

"An Iraqi friend of mine was laughing, saying, 'The Americans are the new Baathists in Iraq'," Graham told CTV's Question Period on Sunday, referring to the party once ruled by Hussein.

"When I said that to my editor, they thought through what the implications were. They read my piece, and they put that together."

In the U.S., bloggers on the left and right have been hotly debating the merits of the comparison.
What do you say people?

Well, knowing the stories about Americans (as in American private persons, military personnel at least have a chance of getting some jail time) killing Iraqis and getting away with it with a slap on the wrist sure makes it seem like Bush is like Saddam Hussein was for Iraq. Surely Saddam hadn't been killing lots and lots of folks for a while... Before he got owned.

Hey, that was a relatively nice and polite cover. They could have done Bush as Saddam in the Cell Phone Pic.

Fucking Canuckistani terrorist! Just kidding, I am a firm believer in freedom of speech and though I don't agree with his assesment I just don't really care. It's not really funny or anything.

I think the same I always think when something "stirs controversy": meh.

Fucking Canuckistani terrorist! Just kidding, I am a firm believer in freedom of speech and though I don't agree with his assesment I just don't really care. It's not really funny or anything.
I really don't think it was meant to be funny.

I am a firm believer in freedom of speech and though I don't agree with his assesment I just don't really care. It's not really funny or anything.
Same. Agreed. They're just trying to stir up some hype and such. I could care less. Like Neu Leonstein said, meh.

I really don't think it was meant to be funny.
Well I'm pretty sure that they hoped to accomplish something with it and I think they just failed to do anything with this. I can't take it seriously in any way 'cause it just doesn't strike me as TEH SERIOUS BIZNESS! so I'm forced to try and look at it as an attempt at humor and it fails at that too. For me it fails at serious business, it fails at humor, it fails at controversy. It's like Milhouse.

Well, obviously magazine covers are made to move the magazine and a little controversy helps move magazines.

I would have to read the whole article (maybe even buy MacLean's which I haven't done since they published that article with a quote from me, with my name and all) but from the first post I think they are not trying to compare Bush the person to Saddam Hussein, but the results of the US policy in Iraq with Saddam's. Kind of like when Bush said Mandela was dead, he wasn't really talking about Mandela, but people like him.

Bush as Saddam magazine cover stirs controversy (http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/TopStories/ContentPosting.aspx?feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V2&showbyline=True&newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20070923%2fMaclean_graham_070923)

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What do you say people?Uhm, this?
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5grJR87nPbzo5Bz2_J7hbbwLewe6w
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/11/AR2007091102678.html

well i still think they should have been hung simultaniously with opposite ends of the same rope, or their heads simultaniously chopped off with a gillotine built for two or something. i mean if they were either of them going to be killed at all. which isn't something i entirely support. the killing of anyone that is.

i'm not sure how responsible any head of state is for what they take, often seek, and are generally given, credit for.

but they are responsible for what they choose to support and make statements in support of and even go out and pimp to the massess.

i'm not judging hussain, i don't feel that i will ever know objectively enough to do so, thumbs up or down. bush though, well the intrests that gave him to us, and that he appears to enthusiasticly support, all the brutality and mayham they have caused, that at lest is culpably reprehensible.

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Uhm, this?
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5grJR87nPbzo5Bz2_J7hbbwLewe6w
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/11/AR2007091102678.html
It is as if they have something to hide. Something that we really don't want to know because it would be horrific?

The July 20 ruling centered on how much information detainees should be able to see about the Defense Department's decision to imprison them indefinitely as "enemy combatants." The appeals court ruled that the government must provide to judges and opposing counsel all information, including classified information, used by Combatant Status Review Tribunals in making such determinations. Courts need that information, the judges wrote, to properly determine whether the tribunals were fair to the detainees and whether the individuals should in fact be considered enemy combatants.

well i still think they should have been hung simultaniously with opposite ends of the same rope, or their heads simultaniously chopped off with a gillotine built for two or something. i mean if they were either of them going to be killed at all. which isn't something i entirely support. the killing of anyone that is.

i'm not sure how responsible any head of state is for what they take, often seek, and are generally given, credit for.

but they are responsible for what they choose to support and make statements in support of and even go out and pimp to the massess.

i'm not judging hussain, i don't feel that i will ever know objectively enough to do so, thumbs up or down. bush though, well the intrests that gave him to us, and that he appears to enthusiasticly support, all the brutality and mayham they have caused, that at lest is culpably reprehensible.

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There certainly appears to be a lot of culpability; however, I am not a big fan of the death penalty. I believe in long as in extremely long, like life sentences for those most insidious offenders.

It is as if they have something to hide. Something that we really don't want to know because it would be horrific?Truer things never said?
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