Colts vs. Broncos: Week 4's Game of the Century!
Linus and Lucy
24-09-2007, 04:01
Colts will improve 4-0, and Manning remains interception-free.
Corneliu 2
24-09-2007, 04:14
Colts will improve 4-0, and Manning remains interception-free.
Um no! manning is not Interception free. We already established that he is not.
As to this game...
GO BRONCOS
Silliopolous
24-09-2007, 04:22
Patriots still win the season, and (*ahem*) Peyton had an interception last week did he not? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore;_ylt=Atv0EEsVeD1cjICLmzRasDoisLYF?gid=20070916010)
;)
Corneliu 2
24-09-2007, 04:22
Patriots still win the season, and (*ahem*) Peyton had an interception last week did he not? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore;_ylt=Atv0EEsVeD1cjICLmzRasDoisLYF?gid=20070916010)
;)
Oh he did as I already pointed out and tried to explain to him. He claims it was Defensive Passing Interference but at the sametime, refuses to point to the rule that states it even after I looked it up and offered him the link.
Travaria
24-09-2007, 04:25
Um no! manning is not Interception free. We already established that he is not.
As to this game...
GO BRONCOS
Go Jags...
Just face it, Manning sucks.
Im happy that my steelers are on a 3-0 start, granted they have played really easy teams :p
OceanDrive2
24-09-2007, 05:54
Colts vs. Broncos: Week 4's Game of the Century!
Colts 4-0Yes, but what is your score prediction for the game vs the Jags?
close game? Who loses?
Wilgrove
24-09-2007, 06:59
In other news
Carolina Panthers beat the Atlanta Falcons, 27-20! :D
*makes Panther noise*
Copiosa Scotia
24-09-2007, 07:39
Colts will improve 4-0, and Manning remains interception-free.
Only so long as he keeps his head pointed left. The right-hand side of the field is off-limits.
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Okay, up until this point I thought you were posting threads on the actual teams, but now I know you're not. What the hell are you talking about? What Colts vs Broncos game? Maybe in bizzarro world...
Maditude
24-09-2007, 09:47
Unfortunately, I see the diffeence being Addai running through the Broncos more than I see Henry go through the Colts.
GO BRONCOS! :headbang:
which "century" would all this horsing arround be refering to?
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Westcoast thugs
24-09-2007, 11:51
which "century" would all this horsing arround be refering to?
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Ahh all of them?
Peyton Manning is the greatest player of all time. Screw Marino,Favre,Elway, Montana etc. Peyton is the best. If i was gay i'd make love to him. The Colts will win the next 3 superbowls. I guarantee it.
Corneliu 2
24-09-2007, 13:26
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Okay, up until this point I thought you were posting threads on the actual teams, but now I know you're not. What the hell are you talking about? What Colts vs Broncos game? Maybe in bizzarro world...
City: Indianapolis team name? Colts
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City: Denver team name? Broncos
Sport: American Football
Copiosa Scotia
24-09-2007, 16:52
P.S.: Fucking Jaguars. And they didn't even have the decency to give Maurice Jones-Drew the ball at the goalline. If they're going to beat my team, they could at least help out my fantasy team.
Linus and Lucy
24-09-2007, 17:12
Um no! manning is not Interception free. We already established that he is not.
It has already been well-established that that play did not actually count.
Corneliu 2
24-09-2007, 17:25
It has already been well-established that that play did not actually count.
It has already been well-established that the play did count and that it is in the stat book, THE OFFICIAL STAT BOOK, as a play and a pick.
And just to prove it to the whole world:
http://www.nfl.com/players/peytonmanning/profile?id=MAN515097
Linus and Lucy
24-09-2007, 17:29
It has already been well-established that the play did count and that it is in the stat book, THE OFFICIAL STAT BOOK, as a play and a pick.
And just to prove it to the whole world:
http://www.nfl.com/players/peytonmanning/profile?id=MAN515097
It doesn't matter what the book says.
What matters is what actually happened.
Since the statistics are released AFTER their respective events occur, it is illogical to say "the book says it happened; therefore, it happened." That is a gross inversion of causality.
Statistics are a reflection of what happened, and can be correct or incorrect. In this case, this particular statistic is incorrect, since it does not reflect what actually happened.
Corneliu 2
24-09-2007, 17:40
It doesn't matter what the book says.
What matters is what actually happened.
Indeed. What matters is that your precious Manning threw a pick that you are so willfully able to ignore. What the book says matters as well.
Since the statistics are released AFTER their respective events occur, it is illogical to say "the book says it happened; therefore, it happened." That is a gross inversion of causality.
Now I dare you to actually prove that. Here's a hint, it was recorded when the play was over with nothing there to actually overturn the official stat. Ergo, no causality. You are more than encouraged to prove me wrong though.
Statistics are a reflection of what happened, and can be correct or incorrect. In this case, this particular statistic is incorrect, since it does not reflect what actually happened.
Which was what?
Linus and Lucy
24-09-2007, 17:55
Which was what?
That no interception was thrown, because the play was nullified by pass interference against Reggie Wayne.
That the referee chose not to call it does not mean it didn't happen.
In other news
Carolina Panthers beat the Atlanta Falcons, 27-20! :D
*makes Panther noise*
kinky devil ;)
Manning threw an INT regardless of whether or not the zebras got it wrong or right get over it already...
if the stat book doesn't matter then the colts don't have a Superbowl win...LT doesn't have the rushing TD record...no one has any wins or losses....TO didn't get the most TD receptions last season...get where I'm going with this yet..your logic makes no sense and doesn't work because it is illogical and ludicrous
Linus and Lucy
24-09-2007, 18:43
Don't build strawmen...it only makes your already pathetically weak argument even weaker.
What I'm saying is, what matters is what actually happens, regardless of whether or not it's reflected in the actual statistics. If it is, great; if not, that doesn't change the fact that it's what actually happened.
What actually happened: Last year, LaDainian Tomlinson (not LT...only Lawrence Taylor deserves to be called that) broke the single-season rushing touchdown record.
What actually happened: In the 1995 AFC Championship Game, Kordell Stewart ran out of bounds before catching a pass.
What actually happened: Last week, the Titans DB who was covering Reggie Wayne (I forget who it was) committed pass interference, so that play didn't count.
well too bad what actually happens isn't always what counts otherwise a lot of sports history would be very different...the play counted...wrongly but it counted anyways...
City: Indianapolis team name? Colts
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City: Denver team name? Broncos
Sport: American Football
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Yes, thank you, Corny, for proving your lack of reading comprehension.
There was no Colts vs Broncos game yesterday. That's why I'm wondering what the hell he's talking about. What Colts vs Broncos game?
Copiosa Scotia
24-09-2007, 19:52
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Yes, thank you, Corny, for proving your lack of reading comprehension.
There was no Colts vs Broncos game yesterday. That's why I'm wondering what the hell he's talking about. What Colts vs Broncos game?
The one in Week 4. :p
Wesmerica
24-09-2007, 19:57
colts
anybody have a fantasy team or league?
The one in Week 4. :p
Oh.
The way these threads have been written it kept seeming as if the game had already been decided.
Oh well...the Broncos will crush the Colts.
I have a fantasy team and the league is already full..I need 9 points to go 3-0...damn you wilkins
Corneliu 2
24-09-2007, 20:43
That no interception was thrown, because the play was nullified by pass interference against Reggie Wayne.
That the referee chose not to call it does not mean it didn't happen.
I see you know jack about football. If the referee did not call it then obviously, there was zero intereference.
So no. There was no interferencec at all. Look up what constitutes Passing Interference. Oh wait. Nevermind. I already proved to you what it is and it proves you false.
Soviestan
24-09-2007, 20:53
Just face it, Manning sucks.
QF epic T.
Linus and Lucy
24-09-2007, 21:22
I see you know jack about football. If the referee did not call it then obviously, there was zero intereference.
Wrong.
What the officials call is a subset of what actually happens.
I find your gross inversion of causality very very disturbing.
Soviestan
24-09-2007, 21:23
Wrong.
What the officials call is a subset of what actually happens.
I find your gross inversion of causality very very disturbing.
I find your love for Peyton Manning very very disturbing.
Corneliu 2
24-09-2007, 21:35
Wrong.
What the officials call is a subset of what actually happens.
I find your gross inversion of causality very very disturbing.
Let me put it to you this way. This may sound like an appeal to authority but I will use it in this case.
I officiated the sport of football. I had to learn the rules in order to apply the rules. Simply stated, if it was not called, it did not happen. It does not matter what YOU think. It matters what the REFEREE thinks. In the REFEREE'S opinion, the play did not warrent the flag because it is obvious that the player (in this case, the wideout) had a play on the ball and that the defender did not do anything to prevent him from getting to the ball. Ergo, by rule there is no passing interference.
Kiryu-shi
24-09-2007, 21:39
That no interception was thrown, because the play was nullified by pass interference against Reggie Wayne.
That the referee chose not to call it does not mean it didn't happen.
The only way a play is nullified is if the referee in fact, does call it, and the team accepts the penalty. Thats it.
And if you want to go by what actually happens then I suppose we should turn over Texas' BCS title to USC since Vince Young was down...and a ton of other blown calls etc etc...
Zebras get calls wrong sometimes...but you deal with it...the stats book is all that matters in the end...you can try and dispute that all you want but it will just continue to perpetuate the fact that you are unbelievably ignorant...
Travaria
25-09-2007, 14:02
P.S.: Fucking Jaguars. And they didn't even have the decency to give Maurice Jones-Drew the ball at the goalline. If they're going to beat my team, they could at least help out my fantasy team.
Maurice Jones-Drew is an amazing talent but he's not the type to score a ton of TDs. Last year's total probably won't be repeated, especially since Fred Taylor is running so well. As far as goalline situations go, the Jags would be idiots to hand the ball 7 yards deep to a tailback when they have a healthy Greg Jones at fullback who can run over anybody AND actually has the talent to play tailback. This guy ran over Sean Taylor back when Taylor played at Miami, just pwned him. Plus, the Jags did give the ball to Jones-Drew in the goalline situation in the 2nd half against the Broncos and he LOST A FUMBLE. That can't help the fantasy team any.
As far as Jags vs. Colts... I think the two teams will split, just like last year. Both will be low scoring close games.