NationStates Jolt Archive


Seven-Year Limit on Marriage

Marrakech II
24-09-2007, 03:22
In a wild-gamble election bid for the leadership of the Bavarian Christian Social Union (CSU), a two-time divorcee who put the kink back into conservative politics, suggested that marriages should dissolve automatically.

"I propose that marriages lapse after seven years," Gabriele Pauli told reporters in Munich on Wednesday, Sept. 19, announcing her platform for the upcoming party congress. "This would mean that one will only commit for a fixed period and will actively have to renew your vows if you still want to continue."



With statistics showing that almost 38 percent of Germans who marry today are likely to get divorced, Pauli believes that putting a time constraint on the sacrament of holy matrimony would save many people the trouble and drudgery of filing the divorce papers.



But making marriage sound like a business investment with an exit strategy just as the seven-year itch sets in does not win you brownie points with party officials in a center-right, Catholic-dominated party.

"That's an absurd idea and totally contrary to the program of the CSU," said German Agriculture Minister and CSU member Horst Seehofer, who is also wants to become party leader.

"We are not in a circus," he said. "With ideas like that, she should give up her candidacy."

Controversy, here I come


Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Although not all CSU members wear lederhosen, the party is largely conservative
Whether earning one's bread as a politician is altogether that different from working in a circus is a moot point. But Gabriele Pauli, district administrator in the Bavarian suburban county of Fürth, is no stranger to controversy.

If anybody ever decided to write a "How Not to Become a Leader of a Bavarian Conservative Party for Dummies," they would make the manual very useful alone by highlighting all the things that Pauli did over the past year.

She emerged from obscurity at a party congress by saying out loud what most people don't even dream of telling their priest in confession: that Premier Edmund Stoiber -- the towering giant of Bavarian politics -- had become a liability and that he should really think about retirement.

She then posed for glossy magazine Park Avenue wearing long black latex gloves that looked like they came out straight of your friendly German S&M studio next door or stretched provocatively on a massage bench.

Finally, she attacked one of Bavaria's holy cows -- the institution of marriage -- and party leaders for having an outdated view of what marriage is like.

"For me, family is a different type of formation than for the CSU," Pauli said. "Maybe people live better outside of marriage."

What next?


Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Could Gabriele Pauli be the next Edmund Stoiber?
It is safe to assume at this point that Gabriele Pauli's future in the pious CSU does not look very promising. But Pauli is a professional. With her PhD in political science and no shame when it comes to media exposure, Pauli could move on to bigger and better things.

One never knows what to expect from vampy conservatives. For all we know, Gabriele Pauli could dye her hair blond, become the next spokesperson for St. Pauli Girl and launch a new marketing campaign under the motto "That Kinky German Beer."

Or she could become the mascot of FC St. Pauli -- a German soccer club with a gay president based in the St. Pauli district of Hamburg, the city's fun zone -- introducing the team to tight black latex jerseys and fishnets, a fashion move that could revolutionize the sport.

Gabriele Pauli is here to stay.


http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2790031,00.html


Well what do you think? Does this German lawmaker have the right idea on "term limits" for marriage? I say what is the point to get married in the first place if you are just going to have it expire after seven years.
Katganistan
24-09-2007, 03:30
Eh, if that's the case, just live with them.

I personally see marriage as a permanent arrangement. If I wanted an escape clause I'd just never marry.
Marrakech II
24-09-2007, 03:30
Eh, if that's the case, just live with them.

I personally see marriage as a permanent arrangement. If I wanted an escape clause I'd just never marry.

The good thing is most of us see it in this manner. I always figure it takes 7 years to work out the bugs. I couldn't imagine having to re-marry every seven years.
IDF
24-09-2007, 03:31
This woman just seems like an angry bitch who is taking her anger out on everyone else because she or or husband sucked in making their marriage work.
IL Ruffino
24-09-2007, 03:41
Who would pre-nups work?
Marrakech II
24-09-2007, 03:46
Who would pre-nups work?

How would they work? Same as they do now I guess. Whatever you go into it is yours and everything that you do together is split. I suppose....
Ashmoria
24-09-2007, 04:28
as long as divorce is freely available there is no need for term limits on marriage.

after all some marriages shouldnt last one month, some should last until death. there is nothing magic about 7 years.
IL Ruffino
24-09-2007, 04:31
How would they work? Same as they do now I guess. Whatever you go into it is yours and everything that you do together is split. I suppose....

So it can easily be abused by money hungry people after 7 years?
Barringtonia
24-09-2007, 04:38
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Stupid idea, stupid person.
Silliopolous
24-09-2007, 04:39
Well, the wedding industry would sure get behind this!


"What? We get to sell them overpriced crap for re-commitment ceremonies every seven years? Woo-Freakin'-hoo!"
Bann-ed
24-09-2007, 04:40
as long as divorce is freely available there is no need for term limits on marriage.

after all some marriages shouldnt last one month, some should last until death. there is nothing magic about 7 years.

Agreed.

Though I like the number 7.
Ashmoria
24-09-2007, 04:41
Agreed.

Though I like the number 7.

me too but i would be more in favor of going with marital milestones.

if you have no kids... walk away any time

if you have kids, no divorce (except in extreme circumstances) until they are all 18+ then you can walk away.

retirement--you can walk away rather than face the prospect of having your spouse around 24/7

but since you can walk away any time in reality, they would all be meaningless re-evaluations.
Barringtonia
24-09-2007, 04:43
I think I would quite enjoy reviewing my partner over the previous 7 years. I would likely draw up a long Powerpoint with graphs and bar charts and a nice executive summary, possibly some smiling pictures culled from Flickr.

I'd need a laser pointer.
Bann-ed
24-09-2007, 04:47
This is the stupidest idea ever. Although I must admit... what is this politician smoking and where can I get some? :D

Well, she probably ain't smoking hot...

..hence this suggestion. /endsexistcomment
Kryozerkia
24-09-2007, 04:48
This is the stupidest idea ever. Although I must admit... what is this politician smoking and where can I get some? :D
Broken Empire
24-09-2007, 04:49
Germany IS the home of a lot of weird contemporary laws. Remember their censorship laws, and this doesn't seem so weird.
Neu Leonstein
24-09-2007, 04:51
A better idea would probably be to make divorces easier and simpler. So basically everyone has to have a pre-nup before the state legally acknowledges the marriage and the courts work on further streamlining any divorce proceedings.
Dryks Legacy
24-09-2007, 09:55
as long as divorce is freely available there is no need for term limits on marriage.

Agreed.
Cabra West
24-09-2007, 10:19
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2790031,00.html


Well what do you think? Does this German lawmaker have the right idea on "term limits" for marriage? I say what is the point to get married in the first place if you are just going to have it expire after seven years.

I think it's a very good idea. It will mean that you need to consider how to split your belongings and settle custody arrangements right when you decide to get married. It won't be such a legal hell when you get a divorce, then.

Plus, what prevents you from renewing your vows every 7 years? I hear it's quite customary in the US that couples marry each other again purely for symbolic reasons anyway?
Bottle
24-09-2007, 12:28
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2790031,00.html


Well what do you think? Does this German lawmaker have the right idea on "term limits" for marriage? I say what is the point to get married in the first place if you are just going to have it expire after seven years.
We require people to renew their driver's licenses, so why not one's marriage license? Makes perfect sense to me. Nobody would be requiring that a marriage end after 7 years. Nobody would be forcing you to get divorced. It would simply be a check to see, "Is everybody still willing and able to commit to this union?"

Perhaps you would never let your license lapse. But perhaps your partner would surprise you. I'd far rather have the 7-year checks, to be absolutely sure that my partner wanted to continue the union.