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I'm really sick of the fact that EVERY SINGLE SODA IN THE UNITED STATES IS MADE WITH HIGH FRUCTOSE SYRUP.

Not all! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Pepper#Dr_Pepper_and_high_fructose_corn_syrup) Well, okay, practically.

Edit: This is my thread, now.

It does.

I'm really sick of the fact that EVERY SINGLE SODA IN THE UNITED STATES IS MADE WITH HIGH FRUCTOSE SYRUP.

It bothers me that people in countries that live to be the age of 43 and reside in huts still drink a higher quality Coke than me made with real honest to God sugar.

It's gottan to the point where I won't even touch these heinously inferior sodas when I can get a liter of Mexican Coke at my favorite coffee shop for $2.50.

So what do you think, American soda drinkers?

Welcome to the vast midwest corn conspiracy.

I don't drink HFCS sodas. They taste oily and are far unhealthier (relatively speaking) than the sodas flavored with cane sugar. I'd rather just drink water, coffee, or tea than that swill.

So what do you think, American soda drinkers?

That Mexico is part of the American Continent.

Yup. Whether it's ethanol (which costs more paetroleum to make than it replaces -- shh! I'm in North Dakota...that's heresy here!) or HFCS, the midwestern corporate farm lobby makes sure corn is involved in just about everything it can be.

With soda, though, there is some choice.

Boylan (http://www.boylanbottling.com/) sodas are excellent. Their "Cane Cola" reminds the Coke-numbed tongue that the kola nut actually has a flavor of some kind! And it's amazing! Quasi-cinnamon and very tasty.

Also, there's Jones (http://www.jonessoda.com/files/products-glass.php) soda as well.

SAY NO TO HFCS!

This, like all other problems I've experienced in life, can be traced back to Iowans and their damn corn. Damn you and your corn, Iowa!
I mainly drink diet sodas anyway. Sure, it's probably giving me at least 38 different forms of cancer, but I do love my Diet Pepsi.

Which organ?

So what do you think, American soda drinkers?
Right to the farm lobby and tell them how much you appreciate HFCS being used to sweeten everything.

Jones is probably the only thing you can get everywhere, but that doesn't make it any easier to find.

This, like all other problems I've experienced in life, can be traced back to Iowans and their damn corn. Damn you and your corn, Iowa!
I mainly drink diet sodas anyway. Sure, it's probably giving me at least 38 different forms of cancer, but I do love my Diet Pepsi.

I used to love my diet Pepsi until my girlfriend convinced me the phosphoric acid is super bad for my bones. So I switched to diet Lipton Citrus Green Tea. I'll still get cancer, but I'll be healthier when I get it... ...right.

Right to the farm lobby and tell them how much you appreciate HFCS being used to sweeten everything.

Jones is probably the only thing you can get everywhere, but that doesn't make it any easier to find.

Follow the links in my Boylan/Jones post -- you can get both online.

Follow the links in my Boylan/Jones post -- you can get both online.
I can buy Jones soda at Target, but of course they keep fucking stocking the 'diet' version witch uses sucralose.
I bought their cane sugar Green Apple one, which had been there on the shelf for months, the same box.

It does.

I'm really sick of the fact that EVERY SINGLE SODA IN THE UNITED STATES IS MADE WITH HIGH FRUCTOSE SYRUP.

It bothers me that people in countries that live to be the age of 43 and reside in huts still drink a higher quality Coke than me made with real honest to God sugar.

It's gottan to the point where I won't even touch these heinously inferior sodas when I can get a liter of Mexican Coke at my favorite coffee shop for $2.50.

So what do you think, American soda drinkers?

I concur vehemently with your grievance, New Stalinberg.

An American complaining that the crap he drinks isn't "pure" crap?

An American complaining that the crap he drinks isn't "pure" crap?

Indeed. But do not let it escape your memory that we are also the ones obsessed about the couching of a virgin.

Uhm...I'm not familiar with the term "couching". What does it mean?

Edit: I googled it, but the results only confused me some more.

It's a euphemism for screwing.

Indeed. But do not let it escape your memory that we are also the ones obsessed about the couching of a virgin.

Uhm...I'm not familiar with the term "couching". What does it mean?

Edit: I googled it, but the results only confused me some more.

http://www.izze.com/

And why are you even drinking soda? It's mostly icky.

Ah, I see. I didn't know Americans were obsessed with screwing virgins.

Not particularly I suppose. They refer to it like it's a treat though.

It's a euphemism for screwing.

Ah, I see. I didn't know Americans were obsessed with screwing virgins.

Not particularly I suppose. They refer to it like it's a treat though.

Because they find awkward, inexperienced fumbling sexy? :confused:

It does.

I'm really sick of the fact that EVERY SINGLE SODA IN THE UNITED STATES IS MADE WITH HIGH FRUCTOSE SYRUP.

It bothers me that people in countries that live to be the age of 43 and reside in huts still drink a higher quality Coke than me made with real honest to God sugar.

It's gottan to the point where I won't even touch these heinously inferior sodas when I can get a liter of Mexican Coke at my favorite coffee shop for $2.50.

So what do you think, American soda drinkers?
High fructose corn syrup isn't in just sodas, Stalinberg. It's in most breads--including a lot of those whole wheat breads--in juices, in canned goods of many types, in ketchup, and so on and so forth...if the food is cheap, odds are it has some traces of high fructose corn syrup in it.

Welcome to the vast midwest corn conspiracy.

Aye.

On another note, just stock up on kosher for passover soda. I only drink soda on occasion or if I'm too lazy to go get water and soda is on the table.

I try my best to avoid all foods/drinks with HFCS but I still have a bit of a soda addiction that is being medicated with iced tea.

Can anyone actually tell the difference?

I can't, and besides HFCS is cheaper then cane suger.

Your organs can probably tell the difference. Well, other than your tongue apparently.

It does.

I'm really sick of the fact that EVERY SINGLE SODA IN THE UNITED STATES IS MADE WITH HIGH FRUCTOSE SYRUP.

It bothers me that people in countries that live to be the age of 43 and reside in huts still drink a higher quality Coke than me made with real honest to God sugar.

It's gottan to the point where I won't even touch these heinously inferior sodas when I can get a liter of Mexican Coke at my favorite coffee shop for $2.50.

So what do you think, American soda drinkers?

Can anyone actually tell the difference?

I can't, and besides HFCS is cheaper then cane suger.

http://www.jonessoda.com/files/pure-cane-sugar.php

I thought everyone new about this. Guess not.

Mind you, I can't vouch for its quality because I rarely drink soda and I've never had it.

http://www.jonessoda.com/files/pure-cane-sugar.php

I thought everyone new about this. Guess not.

Mind you, I can't vouch for its quality because I rarely drink soda and I've never had it.

Jones! I love Jones!

High fructose corn syrup sucks. It does.

Does it have any other talents?

So what do you think, American soda drinkers?

Caffeine bothers me a lot more than the corn syrup.

Does it have any other talents?



Caffeine bothers me a lot more than the corn syrup.

It also blows, and no it can't play the harmonica.

Ah... corn syrup has a more slow acting insidious effect on one's general health I believe...

Can anyone actually tell the difference?

I can't, and besides HFCS is cheaper then cane suger.
Thanks to the farm lobby. They got the government to put a bunch of regulations on its import so it would be cheaper to use HFCS as a sweetener than cane sugar.

http://www.jonessoda.com/files/pure-cane-sugar.php

I thought everyone new about this. Guess not.

Mind you, I can't vouch for its quality because I rarely drink soda and I've never had it.
They have crazy flavors. I recommend Green Apple. Though it's a pain to get here, Target has it but they keep stocking the god damn 'diet' version that has sucralose instead of cane sugar.

They have crazy flavors. I recommend Green Apple. Though it's a pain to get here, Target has it but they keep stocking the god damn 'diet' version that has sucralose instead of cane sugar.

There's a diet version? :eek:

Does it have any other talents?
Killing you. Horribly. And slowly.
Also, you won't see it coming until its too late, because that's just how damn good Corn Syrup is.

There's a diet version? :eek:
Relatively. It uses sucralose instead of aspartame.

Can anyone actually tell the difference?

I can't, and besides HFCS is cheaper then cane suger.

This is what sepates us Austinites with the rest of you... how shall I put this...

Texans?

Seriously though, drink nothing but Mexican cokes for like a month, and then try drinkning the crap from the can.

You'll be unpleasantly surprised.

I used to love my diet Pepsi until my girlfriend convinced me the phosphoric acid is super bad for my bones. So I switched to diet Lipton Citrus Green Tea. I'll still get cancer, but I'll be healthier when I get it... ...right.

You do know that tap water in the US contain phosphoric acid right? It's the main ingredient to keep lead from coming off from the piping and into your drinking water. I don't think it's the kind of thing you can possibly avoid.

So what exactly are the pros and cons between HFCS vs Cane Sugar? Aside from taste and cost are there any other health related issues?

why would anyone drink soda with high fructose corn syrup OR cane sugar in it? its not good for you. drinking empty calories is just stupid no matter where the calories come from.

you should check the ingredients of every freaking thing you buy and take a pass on any that have high fructose corn syrup in them. if they will put that crap in the food how good can it be for you?

why would anyone drink soda with high fructose corn syrup OR cane sugar in it? its not good for you. drinking empty calories is just stupid no matter where the calories come from.

Right... I suppose I should stop eating everything that tastes good by that reasoning.

you should check the ingredients of every freaking thing you buy and take a pass on any that have high fructose corn syrup in them. if they will put that crap in the food how good can it be for you?

It can't be good for you, but like *most things in the US and A, if it's cheaper to produce, then it will be done.


*all

Right... I suppose I should stop eating everything that tastes good by that reasoning.



It can't be good for you, but like *most things in the US and A, if it's cheaper to produce, then it will be done.


*all

grow up.

the vast majority of things that taste good have actual nutritional value. coke doesnt. all it has is empty calories.

no sense buying the products of companies who have no respect for their customers. using HFCS shows that all they care about is saving a (very) few pennies.

It's gottan to the point where I won't even touch these heinously inferior sodas when I can get a liter of Mexican Coke at my favorite coffee shop for $2.50.

So what do you think, American soda drinkers?

You can get a WHOLE LITER of Mexican Coke for $2.50... Who is your dealer?

You do know that tap water in the US contain phosphoric acid right? It's the main ingredient to keep lead from coming off from the piping and into your drinking water. I don't think it's the kind of thing you can possibly avoid.
Also the flouride.

Like that is actually the case, or are you going to claim that brussel sprouts or apples or somesuch tastes good?

When basted in HFCS, then rolled in bread-crumbs and fried.

Thought you knew that...

You can get a WHOLE LITER of Mexican Coke for $2.50... Who is your dealer?
Can get 2 Litres of Coke here for $0.89 (a 2L is actually cheaper than those 785mL bottles :confused:), $2.50 seemed a bit steep for me, but it probably isn't the most legal transaction in the world.

grow up.

the vast majority of things that taste good have actual nutritional value. coke doesnt. all it has is empty calories. Like that is actually the case, or are you going to claim that brussel sprouts or apples or somesuch tastes good?

Like that is actually the case, or are you going to claim that brussel sprouts or apples or somesuch tastes good?

i could claim that but you wouldnt believe it.

BUT

a mcdonalds hamburger (why would anyone eat one?) tastes good and has some actual nutritional value.

coke has none.

im mean SURE if you want to have a coke on holidays, FINE. but to drink it every day is just foolish.

Like that is actually the case, or are you going to claim that brussel sprouts or apples or somesuch tastes good?
Anybody who doesn't love brussel sprouts is without a soul; it was an official decree of the Pope back in the 70's, or something.
Not that they taste anywhere near as good as a slice of cheesecake. Or maybe a huge, greasy slice of pizza covered with pepperonis washed down with coke.
Or Egg Foo Young. Oh my god. Egg Foo Young. The stuff of divinity, that lovely, burnt egg/meat product that has somewhere abouts 1700-2000 calories when you count the obligatory pint of white rice and egg roll. And the gravy, of course. That wonderful, brown . . .

I'm sorry, I appear to be drooling, and what was this post supposed to be about again?

grow up.

Only if you promise to type better. :rolleyes:

the vast majority of things that taste good have actual nutritional value. coke doesnt. all it has is empty calories.

You really think so? I'd say most food articles that are truly tasty without a large price tag on them are full of empy calories or fail to have any nutritional value to them.

Truly honest to goodness cooking that isn't cooked by yourself or a family member has gone the way of good Simpsons episodes.

As in, they fail to exist.

Try going to a restuarant such as Chillis or Apple Bees, and try to find something on the menu that doesn't fall under any of these three categories:

1) Deep fried
2) Coated in sugar in some form or another
3) Both

no sense buying the products of companies who have no respect for their customers. using HFCS shows that all they care about is saving a (very) few pennies.

Well that right there shows me you don't live in America, so our viewpoints are probably a lot different.

i could claim that but you wouldnt believe it.

BUT

a mcdonalds hamburger (why would anyone eat one?) tastes good and has some actual nutritional value.

coke has none.

im mean SURE if you want to have a coke on holidays, FINE. but to drink it every day is just foolish.While I wouldn't claim that a McDonalds cheeseburger tastes good either, I see and understand your angle. It may not offer much, but at least it offers something.

But that is not gonna stop me from drinking Vodka, which as someone's link noted is nothing but calories and alcohol.

Anybody who doesn't love brussel sprouts is without a soul; it was an official decree of the Pope back in the 70's, or something.
Not that they taste anywhere near as good as a slice of cheesecake. Or maybe a huge, greasy slice of pizza covered with pepperonis washed down with coke.
Or Egg Foo Young. Oh my god. Egg Foo Young. The stuff of divinity, that lovely, burnt egg/meat product that has somewhere abouts 1700-2000 calories when you count the obligatory pint of white rice and egg roll. And the gravy, of course. That wonderful, brown . . .

I'm sorry, I appear to be drooling, and what was this post supposed to be about again?I should stab you for associating pepperoni pizza with those other atrocities.

Only if you promise to type better. :rolleyes:



You really think so? I'd say most food articles that are truly tasty without a large price tag on them are full of empy calories or fail to have any nutritional value to them.

Truly honest to goodness cooking that isn't cooked by yourself or a family member has gone the way of good Simpsons episodes.

As in, they fail to exist.

Try going to a restuarant such as Chillis or Apple Bees, and try to find something on the menu that doesn't fall under any of these three categories:

1) Deep fried
2) Coated in sugar in some form or another
3) Both



Well that right there shows me you don't live in America, so our viewpoints are probably a lot different.


i DO live in america i just dont eat crap. its problematical enough to eat meat with antibiotics, milke with growth hormones and vegetables with pesticides without also letting some corporation sell me premade food that is made as cheaply as possible.

just because they sell it doesnt mean you have to eat it.

While I wouldn't claim that a McDonalds cheeseburger tastes good either, I see and understand your angle. It may not offer much, but at least it offers something.

But that is not gonna stop me from drinking Vodka, which as someone's link noted is nothing but calories and alcohol.

lol

vodka is best in moderation too.

lol

vodka is best in moderation too.I take moderation in moderation, too.

I should stab you for associating pepperoni pizza with those other atrocities.
Hey, knock yourself out. You're inability to appreciate egg foo young and sprouts has already proven you don't have a soul at stake in the matter.
Just try and use a clean knife or piece of glass, I'm not sure if my tetanus shots are up to date any more.

I take moderation in moderation, too.

Moderate moderation offends moderators.

Immoderate moderators offend moderates.

Modo
Modas
Modat
Modamus
Modatus
Modent.

The very word 'mod' sounds silly to me now.

Hey, knock yourself out. You're inability to appreciate egg foo young and sprouts has already proven you don't have a soul at stake in the matter.
Just try and use a clean knife or piece of glass, I'm not sure if my tetanus shots are up to date any more.Would you like me to be sure that the wound doesn't get bloody either, princess?

It does.

I'm really sick of the fact that EVERY SINGLE SODA IN THE UNITED STATES IS MADE WITH HIGH FRUCTOSE SYRUP.

It bothers me that people in countries that live to be the age of 43 and reside in huts still drink a higher quality Coke than me made with real honest to God sugar.

It's gottan to the point where I won't even touch these heinously inferior sodas when I can get a liter of Mexican Coke at my favorite coffee shop for $2.50.

So what do you think, American soda drinkers?

Sodas also contain laundry detergent called dextrose.
And they have phosphoric acid, which is what is really eating away at your teeth when u drink sodas.

I live in a country where every soda has real sugar in it, but I switched to Coke Zero I think about a year ago now and dropped about 10kg in weight in a few months with no other changes to my diet, and it doesn't taste that much worse. Also, my teeth are so much cleaner now.

And to the health freaks, what should you drink instead of soda? And don't say water.

And to the health freaks, what should you drink instead of soda? And don't say water.

(Not a health freak)

You make soda sound so integral to one's required daily fluid intake.

But:
Water (I know you said not to mention it but...)
Black tea and coffee with no sugar (latter in moderation)
Fruit juice
The various types of "non-tea" tea, eg herbal, green etc
Water, again. What's wrong with water?

If you want to drink bad things, at least drink beer with a vodka chaser.

I stopped worrying about my health when I started believing in reincarnation.

I stopped worrying about my health when I started believing in reincarnation.

Talk about a really stupid way to live your life...and to think some people find it hard to believe religious beliefs only came about to explain things we didn't understand and to be comforting thoughts we use to ignore uncomfortable ideas...

(Not a health freak)

You make soda sound so integral to one's required daily fluid intake.

But:
Water (I know you said not to mention it but...)
Black tea and coffee with no sugar (latter in moderation)
Fruit juice
The various types of "non-tea" tea, eg herbal, green etc
Water, again. What's wrong with water?

If you want to drink bad things, at least drink beer with a vodka chaser.

Water tastes awful. I have to be very, very thirsty in order to get it down at all. Tea is nice if you have something to eat to it, but not by itself. I tried to drink tea exclusively once, and gave up after week. Fruit juice is much more expensive than soda and contains a lot of sugar making it not very healthy.

Maybe I should try flavored mineral water for a week.

Talk about a really stupid way to live your life...and to think some people find it hard to believe religious beliefs only came about to explain things we didn't understand and to be comforting thoughts we use to ignore uncomfortable ideas...

That's not the way to talk to someone who has a complete disregard for consequence, is it?

That's not the way to talk to someone who has a complete disregard for consequence, is it?

Probably not.

You might want to start caring...please see a therapist. Talk to someone. Address whatever issues you have. Don't allow yourself to make horribly bad decisions based on an absurd belief.

Probably not.

You might want to start caring...please see a therapist. Talk to someone. Address whatever issues you have. Don't allow yourself to make horribly bad decisions based on an absurd belief.

The only thing I've ever wanted in life is to be a member of a completely different species.

Besides, I've tried to see therapists. None of them consider me crazy enough to keep a case open with me.

Water tastes awful.

:confused:

:confused:

I actually concur. I have a very difficult time drinking water, because I become aware that I'm either tasting remnants of something else that was in the water, or something that was stuck to the glass itself.

I actually concur. I have a very difficult time drinking water, because I become aware that I'm either tasting remnants of something else that was in the water, or something that was stuck to the glass itself.

Have you tried washing the glass?

But:
Water (I know you said not to mention it but...)
Black tea and coffee with no sugar (latter in moderation)
Fruit juice
The various types of "non-tea" tea, eg herbal, green etc
Water, again. What's wrong with water?
Tea tastes horrible, because it is so effete. I've had water that was stronger than your average tea.
Black coffee's good, though.

Water tastes awful. I have to be very, very thirsty in order to get it down at all. Tea is nice if you have something to eat to it, but not by itself. I tried to drink tea exclusively once, and gave up after week. Fruit juice is much more expensive than soda and contains a lot of sugar making it not very healthy.

Maybe I should try flavored mineral water for a week.

sparkling water (carbonated water without flavoring) is my preference. there are many brands some with a bit of non sweetened flavoring in them.

if you drink water for a while you will come to appreciate the taste. it just takes time to get over the need for it to come with some kind of added flavoring.

Water tastes awful. I have to be very, very thirsty in order to get it down at all. Tea is nice if you have something to eat to it, but not by itself. I tried to drink tea exclusively once, and gave up after week. Fruit juice is much more expensive than soda and contains a lot of sugar making it not very healthy.

Maybe I should try flavored mineral water for a week.

have you tried water with fruit in it? I like a slice of lime in mine, one lime properly taken care of can last me a week. My husband likes a slice of lemon, and my children enjoy orange slices in their water.

I actually concur. I have a very difficult time drinking water, because I become aware that I'm either tasting remnants of something else that was in the water, or something that was stuck to the glass itself.
Trilby63;13078731']Have you tried washing the glass?
I LOL'd.:p

Water tastes awful.

Fish fuck in it you know.

...

*fails to care about HFCS*

After seeing this thread, I wandered 'round a few Spanish markets and found some Sugar Coke imported from Mexico. I can honestly say I don't get the big deal. Sure, it tastes different from the syrup-stuff (there is no way anyone could mistake the two), but I wouldn't say it tasted that much better than the US formula.

Welcome to the vast midwest corn conspiracy.

Keep feeding us the corn in everything so we won't use it in our cars.

I've heard weird stories about how the Coka-Cola company sends kids to forums to convince other kids to buy coke and stuff... I think I believe them now.

Really :confused:

What gives you that impression...




:p

Water tastes awful.

I've heard weird stories about how the Coka-Cola company sends kids to forums to convince other kids to buy coke and stuff... I think I believe them now.

Soda made wit hcorn soda dosen't taste different than soda made with cane suger to me. In fact, pretty much all soda tastes pretty similar imo.

high fructose corn syrup is killing people in many ways and its a high percentage ingredient in so many things.

Thats a big part of the problem-people dont expect it to be in things.

You give a kid a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and juice for lunch.

There is freaking high fructose corn syrup in the peanut butter, the jelly and the bread-as well as the "juice" if its one of those sneaky "cocktails".

I started looking ofr it a long time ago and avoid it wherever I can.

I dont want to start my kids off on the path to obesity, high blood pressure,diabetis,etc...

Water tastes awful. I have to be very, very thirsty in order to get it down at all. Tea is nice if you have something to eat to it, but not by itself. I tried to drink tea exclusively once, and gave up after week. Fruit juice is much more expensive than soda and contains a lot of sugar making it not very healthy.

Maybe I should try flavored mineral water for a week.

The secret to drinking delicious water: keep it cold, like so cold it starts to form a bit of ice in it. failing that, drink it with ice cubes. Also, always drink filtered water, either from your own filter, or bought (Safeway lets you refill a gallon for about 40 cents.)

I'm in college and drink 2-3 gallons of water per week.