God is dead.
New Stalinberg
22-09-2007, 18:02
For a real god would not allow incidents such as this one (http://gossipgalore.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/the-remake-escapes-me/) to occur.
Intangelon
22-09-2007, 18:04
A remake of a shitty movie is what convinces you of Nietschze's earlier claim?
I guess He really IS dead, then. :rolleyes:
Anti-Social Darwinism
22-09-2007, 18:04
This doesn't prove God is dead, it just proves he's a guy and has no taste.
New Manvir
22-09-2007, 18:06
I've never seen that Escape from New York, but I have seen a few parodies of the character...that movie is way before time...
Kryozerkia
22-09-2007, 18:10
I don't need no crappy movie to prove God is dead. For God to be dead, God would to have first existed and that I don't believe.
New Stalinberg
22-09-2007, 18:12
Well, I guess there are no Plissken cultists here.
That's a shame.
GreaterPacificNations
22-09-2007, 18:12
'God is Dead' emphasises the departure of sincere social belief and reliance upon a God, and the implications thereof. What you mean to say is "There is no God", which implies the contextual reference is so horrible to preclude the existence of a benevolent god.
In defense of my secular friend, the existance of bad things does not dictate the lack of a God. As early as the Garden of Eden God gave up his omnipotence, and gave man choice. Bad things happening are a product of human wrong doing, not lack of divinity.
By the way, Nietzche is dead.
Intangelon
22-09-2007, 18:16
I've never seen that Escape from New York, but I have seen a few parodies of the character...that movie is way before time...
That movie is BEFORE TIME?!? That which exploded and seesed the universe was Escape From New York?!? Wait'll the cosmologists hear THIS!
Well, I guess there are no Plissken cultists here.
That's a shame.
Shame?
I'll go with "relief".
New Stalinberg
22-09-2007, 18:17
The point of this thread isn't about whether God is real or not.
It's about how someone could be stupid enough to make a remake of one of the greatest movies of all time without the actor that made it great.
Intangelon
22-09-2007, 18:18
The point of this thread isn't about whether God is real or not.
It's about how someone could be stupid enough to make a remake of (A) one of the greatest movies of all time without (B) the actor that made it great.
Because A isn't true and B is too old.
Plenty of great films have been subjected to this loathsome form of necrophilia.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
22-09-2007, 18:27
God isn't dead, he just personally hates you. I don't know why, but isn't that the sort of mystery that makes life magical?
As far as cinematic crimes against humanity in general goes, though, remake Escape from New York isn't nearly as terrible as the fact that there is yet another Saw sequel coming out this Halloween. Seriously, people, that shit was tired and dull enough the first time around.
Well, I guess there are no Plissken cultists here.
That's a shame.
Give em time to recover from that shock.
Kurt rocked as Snake Pliskin.
however, Escape from L.A. totally sucked.
Because A isn't true and B is too old.
Plenty of great films have been subjected to this loathsome form of necrophilia.
actually A can be true. one of the Greatest films. he didn't say how big that list is.
and B.. yes, it is the actor that made that film. while he's older. that doesn't mean his portrayal of Snake Pliskin was bad.
Marrakech II
22-09-2007, 18:46
It was actually a decent movie when it came out. You have to compare it to the other crap that was on screen in it's day. There were some terrible movies for a long time in the 70's and early 80's kids. Wasn't until Star Wars series coupled with ET and Indiana Jones series that movies started to get better.
Katganistan
22-09-2007, 19:39
For a real god would not allow incidents such as this one (http://gossipgalore.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/the-remake-escapes-me/) to occur.
Nietschze is dead. -- God.
Cannot think of a name
22-09-2007, 19:42
It depends, if they have a new take on the story that they want to bring out, sure...I guess. But if it's just, "Quick! What can we put Butler in to capitalize on his new action hero status!" Well, that's a bad idea, it would be hard to hide the callousness of that approach. It will play hollow. It's not a forgone conclusion, just and easy trap.
I don't see this ending well.
I see them trying to "brighten" it up. Lets face it, it was a rather dark move. Both in lighting and story XD.
I don't see LA ever being remade. though I wish it would. I dont think the religious right would shut up about the christian facists in that one.
I'd say a God that inflicts things like this is probably about as real as it gets. This is some Elder Gods shit here.
South Lorenya
23-09-2007, 00:31
God would have to exist first before he could die.
ZachsMind
23-09-2007, 00:45
There is a God. He just has a very sick sense of humor.
Smunkeeville
23-09-2007, 00:59
Nietschze is dead. -- God.
*makes t-shirt*
Gift-of-god
23-09-2007, 01:35
Too bad. I like the original.
Snake was badass.
Butler won't be badass enough.
The Brevious
23-09-2007, 01:42
By the way, Nietzche is dead.
By the way, we can both feel better knowing there's myriad evidence to reflect the existence of Nietzsche in the first place, and to lament his loss.
The other assumed entity, however much the tease ... not so much. And no closure, at that.
The Brevious
23-09-2007, 01:42
I'd say a God that inflicts things like this is probably about as real as it gets. This is some Elder Gods shit here.
So which one is it, of "the Elder Gods", then?
I want to know who to bill for my psychotherapy (yeah, get in line).
Katganistan
23-09-2007, 04:56
Goes to show that Hollywood has no original ideas left -- and has to plagiarize itself.
New Stalinberg
23-09-2007, 04:56
Too bad. I like the original.
Snake was badass.
Butler won't be badass enough.
Butler sucked.
300 sucked.
New Stalinberg
23-09-2007, 05:13
Goes to show that Hollywood has no original ideas left -- and has to plagiarize itself.
It's funny cuz it's true! :)
Demented Hamsters
23-09-2007, 07:40
It was actually a decent movie when it came out. You have to compare it to the other crap that was on screen in it's day. There were some terrible movies for a long time in the 70's and early 80's kids. Wasn't until Star Wars series coupled with ET and Indiana Jones series that movies started to get better.
QFT.
The 70's were a absolute wasteland of awful, dire movies.
Like:
The Godfather (I & II)
Taxi Driver
One flew over the cuckoo nest
Raging Bull
Apocalypse Now
Alien
A Clockwork Orange
Chinatown
Jaws
Life of Brian
Bullit
French Connection
Once upon a time in the West
Young Frankenstein
Network
Barry Lyndon
Midnight cowboy
Deliverance
Aguirre, the Wrath of God
The Sting
The Deer Hunter
Dog Day Afternoon
Solyaris
Papillon
Dawn of the Dead
Badlands
Dirty Harry
MASH
Blazing Saddles
The Wickerman
Dreadful, dreadful movies all of them. ET, StarWars and Indiana Jones far outshone those turkeys in plot, scripting, and acting.
United Beleriand
23-09-2007, 09:22
Nietschze is dead. -- God.
Your God has never lived. -- Enki
So which one is it, of "the Elder Gods", then?
I want to know who to bill for my psychotherapy (yeah, get in line).
Hmm, my guess would be Nyarlathotep, given the sheer chaos the remake tidal wave has unleashed on mankind in the past couple decades.
New Stalinberg
23-09-2007, 16:25
QFT.
The 70's were a absolute wasteland of awful, dire movies.
Like:
The Godfather (I & II)
Taxi Driver
One flew over the cuckoo nest
Raging Bull
Apocalypse Now
Alien
A Clockwork Orange
Chinatown
Jaws
Life of Brian
Bullit
French Connection
Once upon a time in the West
Young Frankenstein
Network
Barry Lyndon
Midnight cowboy
Deliverance
Aguirre, the Wrath of God
The Sting
The Deer Hunter
Dog Day Afternoon
Solyaris
Papillon
Dawn of the Dead
Badlands
Dirty Harry
MASH
Blazing Saddles
The Wickerman
Dreadful, dreadful movies all of them. ET, StarWars and Indiana Jones far outshone those turkeys in plot, scripting, and acting.
Blazing Saddles? Alien? Godfather? Jaws? All are timeless classics.
You
fail
at
life.
(Well not really, but your taste in movies is god awful.)
[NS]Trilby63
23-09-2007, 16:39
Blazing Saddles? Alien? Godfather? Jaws? All are timeless classics.
You
fail
at
life.
(Well not really, but your taste in movies is god awful.)
Quick! Delete this post! The Hamster dude was being sarcastic!
United Chicken Kleptos
23-09-2007, 17:30
For a real god would not allow incidents such as this one (http://gossipgalore.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/the-remake-escapes-me/) to occur.
I've always wonder if God would come down from the heavens and declare to the whole world "NIETZSCHE IS DED LOL"
But then I remembered I don't believe in God and wondered why on Earth he spoke n00b...
And now I wonder why I'm making such a reference when this entire thread is filled with rehashings of the same one...
Fergustien
23-09-2007, 17:53
Blazing Saddles? Alien? Godfather? Jaws? All are timeless classics.
You
fail
at
life.
(Well not really, but your taste in movies is god awful.)
When one compares them with ET, Star Wars and Indiana Jones. They stack up nicely in terms of plot and acting.
In all honesty the only things that the ET, Star Wars and Indy movies did way better than any other movie before them was merchandising. It's not just the movies that we enjoyed as kids, it was playing with the action figures and video games, wearing the clothes, eating out of the lunch boxes...etc.
Demented Hamsters
24-09-2007, 04:41
Trilby63;13076565']Quick! Delete this post! The Hamster dude was being sarcastic!
I'm glad to see someone got it.:)
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
24-09-2007, 04:47
Trilby63;13076565']Quick! Delete this post! The Hamster dude was being sarcastic!
Even if he were to delete the post, the fact that you've quoted him means that his gaffe has been immortalized forever on a message board that only about 50 or 60 people frequent.
But that's a global 50 or 60, not one of you hick local groups.
The Brevious
24-09-2007, 05:25
Hmm, my guess would be Nyarlathotep, given the sheer chaos the remake tidal wave has unleashed on mankind in the past couple decades.
Eh, no good. Won't return my calls *or* emails.
Should i go with an paternity suit then? Or is that another night alone with a box of Dove chocolates, some Kleenex, and "Fried Green Tomatoes"?
:(
alive or dead is generally meaningless in the context of nontangable awairnessess, uber ultra or otherwise, as the concept of life as we generally reguard it involves the functionality of tangably living organisms. something a god, any god, almost by deffinician, needs to be something other then in order to do its godly thing.
=^^=
.../\...
my nontangable friends are neither dead nor in any material sense alive, precisely because their inhierent nature is nonmaterial. exist they do though, in my experiencing and in multiply diverse ways and indications of their existence.
if the lie of knowing anything about them people tell themselves wants to die, that is another matter, and one, in and of itself, would not be greatly missed.
=^^=
.../\...
The point of this thread isn't about whether God is real or not.
It's about how someone could be stupid enough to make a remake of one of the greatest movies of all time without the actor that made it great.
Because they have no ideas, but they do have production rights. And honestly, which is worse, that they're doing a remake of a movie that was done right the first time, or that there is a sequel to a movie that went so horribly wrong (http://www.bloodrayne-themovie.com/)?
I've always wonder if God would come down from the heavens and declare to the whole world "NIETZSCHE IS DED LOL"
But then I remembered I don't believe in God and wondered why on Earth he spoke n00b...
And now I wonder why I'm making such a reference when this entire thread is filled with rehashings of the same one...
"God is dead," does not refer to the deity itself. It is a proclamation that religion has lost its importance and that human beings have other ways of understanding the world and finding purpose in life that render religion obsolete.
Infinite Revolution
24-09-2007, 11:31
never heard of it.
Risottia
24-09-2007, 11:38
God is dead
"God is dead, Marx is dead, and I don’t feel too well myself".
Guess whose is this quote.
I don't see this ending well.
I see them trying to "brighten" it up. Lets face it, it was a rather dark move. Both in lighting and story XD.
I don't see LA ever being remade. though I wish it would. I dont think the religious right would shut up about the christian facists in that one.
They should just keep Russel and keep doing sequels, not remakes.
Escape from Demoin. In a near future world, a fashion designer has landed in Demoin, which looks just like present day Cincinnati and has become a giant insane asylum for the autistic, catatonic, people who think they are recently dead public figures and others who just can't keep with the times. Snake must help the designer escape before her avant garde style provokes the inmates to riot and the automated securitybots try to make her take the standard issue tranqulizers.
Escape from New Orleans. Snake retires to New Orleans, but being fed up of waiting for any assistance in rebuilding the city, some residents have decided to just build houseboats. Embarrassed by making their ineptness obvious, the government sends Blackwater to burn the houseboats down. Snake must escape with his houseboat.
Escape from Dublin. Can Snake get out of Dublin after Seventeen pints of guiness?
Escape from Chicago. Same as above, but he just ate too much deep dish Pizza.
Escape from Newark. The series comes full circle. Newark is exactly the same. And New York is still preferable. Snake spends the whole movie trying to re-open the Lincoln tunnel so he can find an apartment in Manhattan.
Madness, Mr. President?
THIS! IS! MANHATTAN!