NationStates Jolt Archive


Will Gore Run?

Evil Turnips
15-09-2007, 11:35
Will Gore run, and if he does, would you vote for him?

Right now I'm a big fan of Obama, but if Gore announced himself to be in the race, I'd jump ship in a second.

He was right about Global Warming, Iraq and he's the most respected US politician in the sees of foreigners (which SHOULD be but rarely is taken into account).

Plus, it'd right the wrongs of 2001 and could eliminate Bush's legacy (as much as is possible anyway), which I think the vast majority of Americans want to see done.

What about you?
The Alma Mater
15-09-2007, 11:36
Why can there be no decent US candidate ?
Ifreann
15-09-2007, 11:38
Why can there be no decent US candidate ?

Huge conspiracy by the Jews. *nods*
Evil Turnips
15-09-2007, 11:39
Why can there be no decent US candidate ?

Because they can't raise any money.
The Alma Mater
15-09-2007, 11:40
Huge conspiracy by the Jews. *nods*

Makes sense :) Thank you, Jews :)
Similization
15-09-2007, 11:45
I'm not American and don't think he'll run. But if I was and he did, he'd probably have my vote. It is, of course, a bit hard to gauge for a foreigner, but that he's the only famous US politician with anything resembling an energy policy, would likely trumph all other concerns for me.
Dinaverg
15-09-2007, 11:58
He probably wouldn't even have to run...
Andaras Prime
15-09-2007, 12:03
Well Gore does have the advantage of actually having won before...
Silliopolous
15-09-2007, 12:37
Have you seen all the weight Al has put on? And you want the poor guy to run!!!!!


At best, he might walk briskly
Gun Manufacturers
15-09-2007, 12:48
Well Gore does have the advantage of actually having won before...

Vice president, sure. But if he ran for president, it'd be different.
Zilam
15-09-2007, 14:16
I'd be happy if he did, and like...Bill Clinton was his VP. Bring back the 90s, sort of. :)
Andaras Prime
15-09-2007, 14:44
I don't mind Edwards, he kinda reminds me of RFK, seeing him as VP would be good.
Kyronea
15-09-2007, 14:56
Hmm...

On one hand, he has sound ideas and policies, and has experience over any other candidate.

On the other hand, I have met him...and he does feel like a pandering oaf like the others...

Well...

I suppose I'd vote for him.
Ashmoria
15-09-2007, 14:58
i wouldnt automatically support him.

back in the day he was as interesting as dirt. he never showed any personality or fire. since getting out of office he has developed a bit of a personality and has shown a willingness to give the bad guys a bit of a hard time.

i am afraid he'll go back to the same old stupid handlers who insisted that he be as bland as possible. i couldnt support that.
Chumblywumbly
15-09-2007, 15:06
Isn’t he far too late to start any nominee campaign?

Anyhoo, I wouldn’t (and couldn’t) vote for him.
Ashmoria
15-09-2007, 15:27
Isn’t he far too late to start any nominee campaign?

Anyhoo, I wouldn’t (and couldn’t) vote for him.

no he's not too late. he has great name recognition and everyone pretty much knows where he stands on the issues.

it would require that hillary clinton implode leaving a gap big enough for him to step into. that is probably not going to happen so he probably wont bother.
Chumblywumbly
15-09-2007, 15:51
it would require that hillary clinton implode leaving a gap big enough for him to step into. that is probably not going to happen so he probably wont bother.
This brings up a subject I’m rather confused about, still.

Hilary Clinton seems to be making strides towards the Democratic nomination, but to me at least, it appears that only the Democratic faithful would ever bring themselves to vote for her. She seems to be universally hated (with fair reason) by everybody to the right and left of her position; which is most of the US public.

What good would it do for the Democrats to nominate her?
Westcoast thugs
15-09-2007, 16:07
I don't mind Edwards, he kinda reminds me of RFK, seeing him as VP would be good.

Those of us in the Obama camp would like to see him as Obama's VP. And Obama kinda reminds me of JFK, so a good combo. And if they were to be on the same ticket they'd have the regional balance right (one being from the midwest and the other being from the south). Obama/Edwards ftw.

This brings up a subject I’m rather confused about, still.

Hilary Clinton seems to be making strides towards the Democratic nomination, but to me at least, it appears that only the Democratic faithful would ever bring themselves to vote for her. She seems to be universally hated (with fair reason) by everybody to the right and left of her position; which is most of the US public.

What good would it do for the Democrats to nominate her?

Hillary's positions isn't nearly as good as it seems. The only people interested in the elction at this point are the weirdos. Most americans don't care until a week or two before their primary. Obama has more money, a better structured campaign, his grassroots support and the number of volunteers he has dwarfs Hillary. Once the average joe shows an interest in the election you will see her support slide.

The early frontrunner doesn't win a lot of the time. Bill Clinton had single digit support at this point in '92. GWB wasn't a front runner at this point. Neither was John Kerry. Obama/Edwards ftw.

PS. I don't like Gore because he is boring and doesn't have what it takes to get the job done. He is a single issue person. And he hasnt even shown an interest. Thompson had his campaign doing work months ago, that's why he could start this late. Gore hasn't even began the starting process. Obama/Edwards ftw.
Ashmoria
15-09-2007, 16:11
This brings up a subject I’m rather confused about, still.

Hilary Clinton seems to be making strides towards the Democratic nomination, but to me at least, it appears that only the Democratic faithful would ever bring themselves to vote for her. She seems to be universally hated (with fair reason) by everybody to the right and left of her position; which is most of the US public.

What good would it do for the Democrats to nominate her?

no thats not quite true. she does seem to be favored by the hardcore democratic left but she is acceptable to the vast majority of democrats.

she is despised with a bitter hatred by the hardcore republican right. the rest of the registered republicans dislike her in the same way they dislike all democrats. perhaps a bit more personally because they know her better than they know the rest of the candidates.

the general american public however does not hate hillary clinton. supposedly if you hear her speak in person you tend to like her. (i wouldnt know for sure since ive never heard her speak in person) she is on the correct side of the issues that are most important to the average american this year. as are all democrats.

if she is nominated the campaign is going to be as ugly and divisive as the republicans can make it. they will throw every possible bit of dirt at her from her own record, her husbands, and possibly al gores. she will be accused of corruption, murder, fraud, lesbianism, radical feminism, and anything else they can come up with (and yes i did mean murder literally). sean hannity--a conservative radio and tv talk show host--has already started a smear campaign specifically against her.

i would rather that she not get the nomination but if she does, im supporting her all the way.
OceanDrive2
15-09-2007, 16:12
Isn’t he far too late to start any nominee campaign?Fred. enuff said.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
15-09-2007, 16:15
Fred. enuff said.
Fred started drumming up support months ago, and even before that he was on that there TV Box at least once a week.
Gore hasn't had near that amount of face time of late.
Westcoast thugs
15-09-2007, 16:15
Fred. enuff said.

Fred's campaign began months ago. He only announced recently. Worst kept secret ever. Everyone knew he was running.
New Manvir
15-09-2007, 16:24
Vice president, sure. But if he ran for president, it'd be different.

zing

I'd love to see Gore run for President and win (again)...
Oklatex
15-09-2007, 16:37
he's the most respected US politician

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That's great, and the rest of the post is http://www.nearlygood.com/smilies/horse.gif
Similization
15-09-2007, 16:41
That's great, and the rest of the post is http://www.nearlygood.com/smilies/horse.gifAre you saying he's not the most respected US politician in the eyes of foreigners, presently? If so, who is?
Unabashed Greed
15-09-2007, 16:47
I don't think he will. I think he's tired of being in politics, and wants to work specifically on his pet issues now, where he can get more of the things he wants to do done.

Too bad, though, I'd vote for him without even having to think about it. He'd probably win too.
Librazia
15-09-2007, 16:50
I would not vote for him if were an American.
New Limacon
15-09-2007, 17:07
Vice president, sure. But if he ran for president, it'd be different.

I think he was referring to the 2000 election, where Al Gore had more votes than George Bush. Bush still won legally, but Gore won, what's the word, actually.
OceanDrive2
15-09-2007, 17:13
Are you saying he's not the most respected US politician in World?
If so, who is?Oklatex doesnt have a clue.. (edited out ass part)
Chances are he has never been outside his Country.
The Alma Mater
15-09-2007, 17:22
Are you saying he's not the most respected US politician in the eyes of foreigners, presently? If so, who is?

In the eyes of the common, not too interested in American politics, public ?
Arnold Schwarzenegger probably.
Oklatex
15-09-2007, 17:27
Oklatex doest have a clue.. he is talking out of his ass.

Chances are he has never been outside his Country.

I have traveled extensively outside the country to Asia, Europe, and the Middle East.

To answer the question as to which American politician is most admired by foreigners I don’t believe there is one who is admired more than another is. Many foreigners don’t admire Americans, they may like them but don’t admire them especially American politicians.

I think the one who is liked (but not admired) the best depends on what region of the world you are referring to.
OceanDrive2
15-09-2007, 17:27
(most respected in the world)
Arnold Schwarzenegger probably.Arnold could be a contender for "most famous", but Al Gore is more "respected"
SD FreeTradeRegion
15-09-2007, 17:29
In the eyes of the common, not too interested in American politics, public ?
Arnold Schwarzenegger probably.You got to be kidding me?

Most likely the answer from a foreigner that aren't too concerned with politics would be "None".
The Alma Mater
15-09-2007, 17:30
Arnold could be a contender for "most famous", but Al Gore is more "respected"

You overestimate how well he is known. Sure, a few people saw his movie, sure most people will know he is some politician in the USA - but the interest ends there for most.

While Ah-nold makes popular movies.
Maineiacs
15-09-2007, 17:31
I would not vote for him if were an American.

If you're not an American, why do you have an ad for Ron Paul in your sig?
Kyronea
15-09-2007, 17:33
Oklatex doesnt have a clue.. he is talking out of his a**.

Chances are he has never been outside his Country.

Oh yes he has. Admittedly it was always to war zones in places like Vietnam, but Celtlund has been around a bit.

Doesn't mean he has perspective though...anything but actually. His perspective is horridly limited.
Oklatex
15-09-2007, 17:49
Oh yes he has. Admittedly it was always to war zones in places like Vietnam, but Celtlund has been around a bit.

Doesn't mean he has perspective though...anything but actually. His perspective is horridly limited.

They were not all war zones. :D Lived in Spain for three years. It was great there. Never made it to Vietnam but served in Thailand where I worked on B-52's during Linebacker II. Been to lots of other places as well.

My perspective is probably limited by my life experiences as is the perspective of just about everyone.
Poliwanacraca
15-09-2007, 17:55
If Gore ran, I would quite definitely vote for him. I've liked and respected him for a very long time.

However, I don't believe he will run - and I honestly hope he doesn't, oddly enough. I believe he can do more good for the world where he is now, where he is free to focus his energy, than he could from the White House, where his priorities would necessarily be changed.
Kyronea
15-09-2007, 18:06
They were not all war zones. :D Lived in Spain for three years. It was great there. Never made it to Vietnam but served in Thailand where I worked on B-52's during Linebacker II. Been to lots of other places as well.

My perspective is probably limited by my life experiences as is the perspective of just about everyone.

Oh, right, I forgot about your Spanish years. Sorry about that.

And I hope you're not taking offense at what I'm saying. I mean, I think you're a likable guy, but your political opinions leave a lot to be desired, that's all.
Oklatex
15-09-2007, 18:28
And I hope you're not taking offense at what I'm saying. I mean, I think you're a likable guy, but your political opinions leave a lot to be desired, that's all.

Even my oldest son and I disagree on politics and I still love him. :fluffle: I know no offense was intended and I took none. :fluffle:
The Nazz
15-09-2007, 18:42
I think he was referring to the 2000 election, where Al Gore had more votes than George Bush. Bush still won legally, but Gore won, what's the word, actually.

Gore lost the only election that wound up mattering, and he lost it 5-4. That decision will wind up going down in history with the Dred Scott decision.
AB Again
15-09-2007, 20:44
As a foreigner, who is reasonably interested in politics, the insight I can give on this subject is that when I read the title I thought this would be a thread about Frank Gore and the 49ers.

Al Gore is as respected here as any other US politician - which means not at all.
Sel Appa
15-09-2007, 21:17
I don't believe we'll be that lucky. Although, he hasn't ruled it out fully yet.
Shlarg
15-09-2007, 22:06
Won't vote for anyone who approves NAFTA.
New new nebraska
16-09-2007, 01:05
I'd really like to see him run.MAybe hes afraid the Repubs will cheat like last time.Gore won in '01!Remeber that,sig it if you will!
The Nazz
16-09-2007, 01:34
I wish he would run, but he won't, and I don't blame him. After what the press did to him in 2000, I wouldn't blame him if he never talked to another reporter again--it was shameful. And despite that, despite the hatchet job perpetrated on him by the nation's newspapers and television reporters, he still won that election. I don't see him putting himself through that shit again. I wouldn't.
Zilam
16-09-2007, 01:40
I wish he would run, but he won't, and I don't blame him. After what the press did to him in 2000, I wouldn't blame him if he never talked to another reporter again--it was shameful. And despite that, despite the hatchet job perpetrated on him by the nation's newspapers and television reporters, he still won that election. I don't see him putting himself through that shit again. I wouldn't.

We know our beloved friends at Fixed Noise would bring up things such as his son being arrested, or that energy bill for his house, or the false claims about him saying he started the internet, etc.
The Nazz
16-09-2007, 01:47
We know our beloved friends at Fixed Noise would bring up things such as his son being arrested, or that energy bill for his house, or the false claims about him saying he started the internet, etc.

They never stopped, even when he wasn't running for anything. If anything, they'd ramp it up.
Layarteb
16-09-2007, 04:28
He won't run, he's getting enough attention trying to scare everyone into thinking the world is going to instantly explode from global warming while jetting around on his private jet and leaving every light on in his house.
Maineiacs
16-09-2007, 04:40
He won't run, he's getting enough attention trying to scare everyone into thinking the world is going to instantly explode from global warming while jetting around on his private jet and leaving every light on in his house.

In lieu of them getting the "making the 'jerking off' motion" smilie, may I just say

:rolleyes:

Grow up.
[NS]Click Stand
16-09-2007, 05:04
I wouldn't vote for him. Gore is one of those one-trick ponies who also won the Kentucky derby.
Gun Manufacturers
16-09-2007, 05:09
zing

I'd love to see Gore run for President and win (again)...

He didn't win last time he ran for president, though.
Gun Manufacturers
16-09-2007, 05:11
I think he was referring to the 2000 election, where Al Gore had more votes than George Bush. Bush still won legally, but Gore won, what's the word, actually.

I know what was being referred to.
Gun Manufacturers
16-09-2007, 05:14
Gore lost the only election that wound up mattering, and he lost it 5-4. That decision will wind up going down in history with the Dred Scott decision.

Actually, he lost the electoral race, too.
Layarteb
16-09-2007, 07:25
In lieu of them getting the "making the 'jerking off' motion" smilie, may I just say

:rolleyes:

Grow up.

Well considering the man's carbon footprint was hugemongous and he's always criticizing the use of private jets and then uses one himself I think my comments were rather applicable. He's about as much of an eco-warrior as half the people who went to the Live Earth concert, which, in and of itself, produced a significant amount of pollution and waste.
Callisdrun
16-09-2007, 12:16
no thats not quite true. she does seem to be favored by the hardcore democratic left but she is acceptable to the vast majority of democrats.

she is despised with a bitter hatred by the hardcore republican right. the rest of the registered republicans dislike her in the same way they dislike all democrats. perhaps a bit more personally because they know her better than they know the rest of the candidates.

the general american public however does not hate hillary clinton. supposedly if you hear her speak in person you tend to like her. (i wouldnt know for sure since ive never heard her speak in person) she is on the correct side of the issues that are most important to the average american this year. as are all democrats.

if she is nominated the campaign is going to be as ugly and divisive as the republicans can make it. they will throw every possible bit of dirt at her from her own record, her husbands, and possibly al gores. she will be accused of corruption, murder, fraud, lesbianism, radical feminism, and anything else they can come up with (and yes i did mean murder literally). sean hannity--a conservative radio and tv talk show host--has already started a smear campaign specifically against her.

i would rather that she not get the nomination but if she does, im supporting her all the way.

I feel much the same. I don't want her to get the nomination because of the large size of the "I hate Hillary" club. I mean, I agree with her on a lot of issues and I don't even like her. I just don't think she can win with all the people who hate her.

If she does get the nomination, I'll still vote for her over any republican, though.

Al Gore I doubt will run. He's already vehemently denied intending to do so.
Evil Turnips
16-09-2007, 15:50
Actually, he lost the electoral race, too.

He didn't actually. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election%2C_2000) Bush got 50,460,110 and Gore got 51,003,926. Hey, its only half a million votes.
Gun Manufacturers
16-09-2007, 15:57
He didn't actually. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election%2C_2000) Bush got 50,460,110 and Gore got 51,003,926. Hey, its only half a million votes.

Your link proves my point. Gore won the popular vote, but that's not how the president is elected. Bush had more electoral votes than Gore.

ETA: BUSH GORE

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