NationStates Jolt Archive


Are You Really That Big a Jerk?

New Limacon
14-09-2007, 00:57
Now that I have got your attention with my provocative thread title, I will ask the actual question: how different are you in dealing with real people in the real world than you are on this, or any, internet forum? I find that it is easier to be impolite, aggressive, or even plain mean when I do not see, hear, or even know the people I am communicating with. What about you?
Myu in the Middle
14-09-2007, 01:04
What about you?
I speak my mind to others in real life as well, but only as long as I feel like we are actually conversing rather than just speaking at one another. Here, I have no such delusions, and just speak my mind anyway.
Cannot think of a name
14-09-2007, 01:05
I'm about the same just not as likely to get into it because there isn't the open invitation for discussion that there is on a forum. While I do believe stating your opinion out loud is an invitation for it to be discussed and thereby challenged, I'm less likely to put that in practice in, say, the grocery store line where the old guy says, "You know, they're shooting guys with beards now." (Really fucking happened). The difference is in person you can hear my inflection and so the people I'm talking to are less prone to taking it personally (not always, though).

For instance, Neo Leohoweveryouspellthat might have a better idea that I like him on a personal level even though I find some of his ideas frightening and borderline inhuman.

See? That comes out a lot harsher than if I had said it.
UNITIHU
14-09-2007, 01:07
I picked I'm more sociable here than in real life, because I thought it said I'm more sociable in real life than here. Oops.
I am exactly the same amount of jerk here than I am in real life, perhaps a little more in real life. But I'm a fun jerk, I throw stuff at people and haze freshman (not literally).
Chandelier
14-09-2007, 01:08
I'm perhaps a little bit more social here than in real life, but not by much. Seriously, sometimes it takes me half an hour to work up the courage to post, just like it takes me a while to work up the courage to talk to people. But I'm not mean to people in either, really...at least not intentionally.
Longhaul
14-09-2007, 01:09
I'm pretty much the same on here as I am in real life, and as I am on any other Internet forum I post to. Simply put, I find it a lot easier to just be me, however and wherever I happen to be :)
Splintered Yootopia
14-09-2007, 01:14
I'm pretty solid in real life, in a kind of "polite, and well-spoken" kind of way. On here, I'm extremely rude, which is a shame, but when you can't see people looking a bit sad when you're completely uncouth to their face, it's a bit easier and all of that.
Vetalia
14-09-2007, 01:29
I don't troll here. So, how you see me here is a good proxy for how I am IRL (although I tend to make fewer jokes here, among other things).
Johnny B Goode
14-09-2007, 02:01
If you met me, in real life, this is almost exactly who I am.
Silliopolous
14-09-2007, 02:03
In real life I am an argumentative, sarcastic, opinionated person willing to debate pretty much anything anywhere.

So, yeah, totally different than here!

OF course, I might temper my sarcasm or opinions when social circumstances require restraint (e.g. with various levels of the chain of command where I'm currently working), but if I were at a pub arguing with strangers I'm pretty much just as I am here.
Jenrak
14-09-2007, 02:10
I am exactly who I am.
Smunkeeville
14-09-2007, 02:21
I am much nicer here than I am IRL, I am much slower to frustration and I give people more chances before I write them off as complete wastes of space.
Ashmoria
14-09-2007, 03:47
I'm perhaps a little bit more social here than in real life, but not by much. Seriously, sometimes it takes me half an hour to work up the courage to post, just like it takes me a while to work up the courage to talk to people. But I'm not mean to people in either, really...at least not intentionally.

yes but here we cant tell that you hesitated half an hour. we think you were busy with some fabulous real life thing that kept you from posting immediately.

im much more sociable in real life (when i can be bothered to be with other people), much more interesting and much funnier.
Layarteb
14-09-2007, 05:33
I try not to let NSG affect the rest of my life because if it did I'd probably just want to strangle a lot of people and go on a rampage. People, you gotta differentiate or it'll consume you!
Copiosa Scotia
14-09-2007, 05:42
I'm pretty much the same guy on NSG.
The Atlantian islands
14-09-2007, 05:54
I suppose I'm an asshole here but in real life I'm a very nice guy who never fights with people and honestly get's along with everyone. I've never even been in a fight. I'm very sociable, funny and a general nice guy and people tend to like me. Also, I'm usually politically smarter than the real life people I talk politics with, so I tend to beat them in arguements. Let's face it, no matter what your stance is, NSers tend to be politically smarter than the common folk.
Posi
14-09-2007, 07:20
I suppose I'm an asshole here but in real life I'm a very nice guy who never fights with people and honestly get's along with everyone. I've never even been in a fight. I'm very sociable, funny and a general nice guy and people tend to like me. Also, I'm usually politically smarter than the real life people I talk politics with, so I tend to beat them in arguements. Let's face it, no matter what your stance is, NSers tend to be politically smarter than the common folk.Is that a challenge?
Barringtonia
14-09-2007, 07:22
I have little idea how I'm perceived here nor in real life for that matter.

In that sense, I am entirely consistent.
IL Ruffino
14-09-2007, 07:25
I like shooting random people.
Barringtonia
14-09-2007, 07:27
I like shooting random people.

IL Ruffino is a tailor, he means 'suiting' people but he's fairly illiterate.
IL Ruffino
14-09-2007, 07:28
IL Ruffino is a tailor, he means 'suiting' people but he's fairly illiterate.

I also like to kick them for their money.
Barringtonia
14-09-2007, 07:29
I also like to kick them for their money.

He means 'kit' people - as in to kit them out with new clothes.

Where's my waistcoat?
IL Ruffino
14-09-2007, 07:33
He means 'kit' people - as in to kit them out with new clothes.

Where's my waistcoat?

It got stained when I threw it in the trunk with that dead hooker.
Barringtonia
14-09-2007, 07:36
It got stained when I threw it in the trunk with that dead hooker.

Again dammit?

Can't you wrap the dead hookers in black plastic bags?

For my waistcoat I hope you got a Lebanese hooker like we discussed, love the colour tone.
The Brevious
14-09-2007, 07:38
Now that I have got your attention with my provocative thread title, I will ask the actual question: how different are you in dealing with real people in the real world than you are on this, or any, internet forum? I find that it is easier to be impolite, aggressive, or even plain mean when I do not see, hear, or even know the people I am communicating with. What about you?

Erm, yes?
IL Ruffino
14-09-2007, 07:40
Again dammit?

Can't you wrap the dead hookers in black plastic bags?

For my waistcoat I hope you got a Lebanese hooker like we discussed, love the colour tone.

About that..
The Brevious
14-09-2007, 07:41
Again dammit?

Can't you wrap the dead hookers in black plastic bags?

For my waistcoat I hope you got a Lebanese hooker like we discussed, love the colour tone.

<3 you guys.
*FLORT*
:D
http://www.websmileys.com/sm/fingers/fing24.gif
Barringtonia
14-09-2007, 07:44
About that..

There are Lebanese Jews you know, you don't have to break your principles :rolleyes:
IL Ruffino
14-09-2007, 07:47
There are Lebanese Jews you know, you don't have to break your principles :rolleyes:

*sigh*

Fine, I'll get the damn imported hooker skin, just for you. If these bitches have any honey stains on their skin, don't you dare complain.
Barringtonia
14-09-2007, 07:51
*sigh*

Fine, I'll get the damn imported hooker skin, just for you. If these bitches have any honey stains on their skin, don't you dare complain.

At $14.99 for a waistcoat I shouldn't expect perfection I suppose.
The Brevious
14-09-2007, 07:58
Nothing like being called on your own bullshit. Ah, feels like humility...

Erm, nothing like being called by you on your own bullshit?
How can we believe you?
Further, how can we believe you about this particular thing?
Argh! It's maddening! You really are a jerk!
:(
Cannot think of a name
14-09-2007, 08:00
I have to amend my statement.

I wandered into a cigar party today and some stranger told me that the only Republican he liked was Ron Paul and instead of going, "Seriously?" I said, "Ah, the Libertarian one," and didn't really get into it at all.

So despite the bullshit in my first post, yes, I am more aggressive here than I am in real life. Apparently.

Nothing like being called on your own bullshit. Ah, feels like humility...
The Brevious
14-09-2007, 08:08
It's too true, I realize. I might as well have said that old chestnut, "Everything I say is true, the previous statement is a lie" or whatever...wait, that doesn't make any sense...that just means I lie but doesn't really indicate how often...that can't be the statement...Dammit, sounds like one of us needs another drink ...


Ummm...there was booze at the cigar shindig, did I mention that?

....oh ... never mind! S'all good!
Cannot think of a name
14-09-2007, 08:09
Erm, nothing like being called by you on your own bullshit?
How can we believe you?
Further, how can we believe you about this particular thing?
Argh! It's maddening! You really are a jerk!
:(

It's too true, I realize. I might as well have said that old chestnut, "Everything I say is true, the previous statement is a lie" or whatever...wait, that doesn't make any sense...that just means I lie but doesn't really indicate how often...that can't be the statement...


Ummm...there was booze at the cigar shindig, did I mention that?
Lunatic Goofballs
14-09-2007, 09:05
I can't tackle, wedgie or groin kick anyone here. It has greatly impacted my social interaction. *nod*
Philosopy
14-09-2007, 09:13
I don't go out of my way to be different on here, but, like others have already said, sarcasm and teasing comments are much easier to read in real life, so people on here often take remarks in ways you didn't intend them too.
Cameroi
14-09-2007, 09:51
yes, i'm about the same in rl. yes i used to have one of those. no this forum isn't why it's mostly history. its own long and winding road somewhat more is.

if i told you the real reason my rl is mostly behind me, the real jerks would swear up and down that i absolutely was one, and not of their own kind either.

well such is life and while i may have problems that one is someone else's.

i do like forums. and voting. and running off at the keyboard on general principals.

though i am more concerned with the kind of world we all have to live in, more gratified by creating and exploring, and more interested in little trains, little houses, little computers and little furry creatures with big sharp teeth, then i am in what any one goes to bed with, where, when or how often, what they impare their judgement with, what idiologies or economic theories they get emotionally fanatical about (except as and if it impinges on the kind of world i'd rather be living in or the one we all have to), or what they call their invisible friends great and small, although i love them too, preferably without naming them so as to leave their spirituality, which is to say, our connectedness with it, in tact.

i'm not really all that social. not anti as such, just more interested in and gratified by things that i'm usually able to better enjoy alone.

i don't wish anyone unhappiness. i just happen to have a great deal of love for lots of lovely solitude. (and computers, and trains and little furry creatures, and odd twisty little houses and gardens and immagineering them and so on. without actually being much of a rocket scientist about any of them exactly. although i do have SOME remodling and gardining experience and have grown up with trains and other forms of guideway based transportation infrastructure, litteraly all of my life. computers i started playing with when you had to build them yourself. but i never quite became the guru i might have had i had the resources to persue such things more fully then i did. not that i have any slightest interest in the use of them in the bussiness of bussiness, or even other then something of an aversion to the bussiness of bussiness itself. i've also played with creative expression in multiple forms a good deal of my life too. though seldom with the intent of remuneration there either. rather my motivation to do THAT, again being to illustrate that kind of world i would much prefer to be living in. again of little trains, little houses, et c. twisty, convoluted, intreguiging, odd, unusual and just plain wierd, and wishing like anything i could be living in that kinds of spaces).

=^^=
.../\...
Posi
14-09-2007, 10:35
It's too true, I realize. I might as well have said that old chestnut, "Everything I say is true, the previous statement is a lie" or whatever...wait, that doesn't make any sense...that just means I lie but doesn't really indicate how often...that can't be the statement...


Ummm...there was booze at the cigar shindig, did I mention that?
"Everything I say is a lie. In fact, I am lying right now."

?
SoWiBi
14-09-2007, 10:40
Now that I have got your attention with my provocative thread title, I will ask the actual question:
Ah, cute, yet another poster who hasn't grasped the concept of mousing-over thread titles.
how different are you in dealing with real people in the real world than you are on this, or any, internet forum?
I'm a lot less coherent when talking than writing, so while I may occasionally appear to have a point here, I certainly fail to make any such impression IRL, or at leats in a spoken conversation.
I find that it is easier to be impolite, aggressive, or even plain mean when I do not see, hear, or even know the people I am communicating with.
.. and I like to call cowards as I see them IRL just as much as I do online. Or will you want to use age as an excuse? Anything under 13, preferably coupled with a MySpace account with a pink or black background, will do.
Soheran
14-09-2007, 10:51
What about you?

The exact opposite.

I find it much more difficult to be mean when all the person has to go on is my words and not my tone, and when words cannot as easily be taken back or otherwise rectified.
Chandelier
14-09-2007, 11:27
yes but here we cant tell that you hesitated half an hour. we think you were busy with some fabulous real life thing that kept you from posting immediately.

Well... in real life it's not necessarily that I delay talking to people, just that if I know I'm going to talk to someone I'll spend a while planning out what I want to say and how to respond to various things, and I usually get nervous, depending on what I'm going to talk to them about.
Callisdrun
14-09-2007, 11:46
I'm an asshole, but I have to admit I'm probably worse on NSG.
SoWiBi
14-09-2007, 11:57
I'm an asshole, but I have to admit I'm probably worse on NSG.

At least you are (were the last time you posted a pic?) a self-proclaimed asshole who wears his hair long, that makes up for a lot.
Kryozerkia
14-09-2007, 12:40
What about you?
Well... I'm actually quite the jerk in real life depending in my mood. If the person I'm dealing with is evidently incompetent I have little or no patience for them and that is reflected. I once to get out of being thrown out of a convention after some bitch got pissed at me for swearing in front of her children acted like an asshole.

Back story: I was talking to a friend and I casually swore and this woman was behind me with her two children and told me to watch my language. I told her to fuck off and if she didn't want to hear people swear that she came to the wrong event. She went to get a security guard who threatened to throw me out for misconduct, but I acted in a completely sarcastic manner and played up the melodramatics. End result, I got my way and the woman who needed to grow a thicker skin didn't get me to stop swearing. :)
Bottle
14-09-2007, 12:49
Now that I have got your attention with my provocative thread title, I will ask the actual question: how different are you in dealing with real people in the real world than you are on this, or any, internet forum? I find that it is easier to be impolite, aggressive, or even plain mean when I do not see, hear, or even know the people I am communicating with. What about you?
I'm pretty much the same in the real world as I am around here. Though it's a little hard to tell, because so much of my real-world time is spent at my job, and when I'm at work I behave in a more professional manner than when I'm on my own time.
Rambhutan
14-09-2007, 12:52
I am pretty much the same in real life - never been one to use anonymity to do things I would not normally do. So I really am this witty, charming, devilishly handsome, and delusional.
Peepelonia
14-09-2007, 13:10
I'm totaly differant. In real life i'm only 3'6", ugly as sin, and covered in an emense amount of body hair, so that naturaly makes me very shy.
Ashmoria
14-09-2007, 15:20
Well... in real life it's not necessarily that I delay talking to people, just that if I know I'm going to talk to someone I'll spend a while planning out what I want to say and how to respond to various things, and I usually get nervous, depending on what I'm going to talk to them about.

yeah i remember being like that. very afraid of saying something stupid that id try to rehearse what i was going to say to someone

now im so old and have said so many stupid things that i no longer care. i just go for it.

except for when i might have the chance to speak to someone famous. then i obsess over the idea that whatever i say is going to be amazingly lame.
Cannot think of a name
14-09-2007, 15:37
"Everything I say is a lie. In fact, I am lying right now."

?

That seems more like it.

And, to stray from topic for a moment...how in the fuck is alcohol more accepted than marijuana? Gah, for fucks sake, my stomach is queezy and my head hurts-the only way that happens after getting really really baked is if I give into snack attacks and think that just because the idea of cheese that sprays from a can is amusing it must mean it's a good idea for a snack, especially if you hit the bottom of the can.

Seriously, this blows (and could literally if I had drank more).

After effects: advantage-weed.

Fuck our fucked up priorities.
Khadgar
14-09-2007, 15:39
I rarely speak to anyone I don't have to in person. I hate people.
Krahe
14-09-2007, 16:07
I'm pretty much the same here as IRL. Both places I'll sit back and listen more than I talk. Don't like debating here as much as my favourite debates are generally had over a few pints and a game of darts...
Gift-of-god
14-09-2007, 16:43
I am definitely meaner here.
Dexlysia
14-09-2007, 16:51
I probably come off as more of an asshole on here, because tone and sarcasm don't convey well in text, and I play devil's advocate a lot.

And I am probably even more associal in real life... ladies.
Extreme Ironing
14-09-2007, 17:33
I used to be more sociable online than outside (not so much in forums, but in online games especially). More recently it's evened out a bit as I'm more willing to discuss and voice my opinions in RL, though I'm still far from being 'talkative' or 'loud'.
New Genoa
14-09-2007, 21:57
I usually dont make my beliefs known IRL although I'm pretty clear on my opposition to religion.
HotRodia
14-09-2007, 22:03
Now that I have got your attention with my provocative thread title, I will ask the actual question: how different are you in dealing with real people in the real world than you are on this, or any, internet forum? I find that it is easier to be impolite, aggressive, or even plain mean when I do not see, hear, or even know the people I am communicating with. What about you?

I use the same principles in both RL and online interactions. When in doubt, respond fully and politely. When you know the person, respond in like kind to the quality of their responses. Sprinkle in sarcasm rather than petty insults when dealing with stupidity.

Also, my manners tend to go slightly downhill both online and IRL when I'm irritated.

So yeah, I really am that big of a jerk.
Posi
15-09-2007, 01:16
I use the same principles in both RL and online interactions. When in doubt, respond fully and politely. When you know the person, respond in like kind to the quality of their responses. Sprinkle in sarcasm rather than petty insults when dealing with stupidity.Would you have lost your mod powahs if you did not post that?
Lame Bums
15-09-2007, 04:34
Probably a little more aggressive. Far-left opinions tend to bring out the worst in me.
The Brevious
15-09-2007, 07:29
Far-left opinions tend to bring out the worst in me.

The worst of anybody is brought out as right-wing attitude, opinion, and reaction, so that would make sense.
MrWho
15-09-2007, 07:37
I'm about the same here as in real life. I don't really talk that much to people except for my friends, and I usually only speak up when I have something useful to add. I'm generally quiet and relaxed in class, which some people mistake for me being uptight and serious.
The blessed Chris
15-09-2007, 18:17
Well, I'm honest here.:D

In seriousness, I'm far more vocal, and, if such a term can be used online, loud, on NSG than normal.

I'd like to think NSG acts a spunge for all my invective, meanness and more extreme views.
Hamilay
15-09-2007, 18:22
About the same, except I'm more eloquent and can express myself better here.

I know. Sad, isn't it.

Well, I'm honest here. :D

In seriousness, I'm far more vocal, and, if such a term can be used online, loud, on NSG than normal.

I'd like to think NSG acts a spunge for all my invective, meanness and more extreme views.

Some other people here like to think that too. :p
Oklatex
15-09-2007, 18:26
Well, there are two types of assholes in this world. There are perfect ones and there are those with hemorrhoids. I have hemorrhoids. :D