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There seem to be many different opinions on this forum, but they all boil down to the same argument: good (such as Western capitalism) versus evil (such as Eastern communism). I would like to see, in general, whether you support good or evil. Why?

NB: This thread is satirical. But, I think someone could actually say something meaningful about why it may be necessary to be evil once in a while, or how anything in excess, even good, is wrong, so take it seriously if you wish.

Neither exist, it's all perspective (excluding certain issues like abuse of human rights, I can only be relativist so far).

I've not seen either Good or Evil publish any meaningful policies. This just seems to be turning into a popularity contest.

In the words of the great Satan: Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes.

Evil and Good the two great interdependent opposites.

Is good the lack of evil or evil the lack of good?

In the words of the great Satan: Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes.

If that is the case, perhaps the greatest evil would be the elimination of evil. If so, that's the evil I plan to do. It's just that good of an evil thing to make good the absolute norm.

If that is the case, perhaps the greatest evil would be the elimination of evil. If so, that's the evil I plan to do. It's just that good of an evil thing to make good the absolute norm.

Does that mean that you first have to extinguish yourself?

Does that mean that you first have to extinguish yourself?

No. It just means you missed the point. Which is that the elimination of evil does not render good meaningless, only so ubiquitous as to be perceived as meaningless by those accustomed to the dualistic thought common in Western culture.

No. It just means you missed the point. Which is that the elimination of evil does not render good meaningless, only so ubiquitous as to be perceived as meaningless by those accustomed to the dualistic thought common in Western culture.


Not really, I just wanted to show you that painting everything blue was a bad idea.

Click Stand;13044762']Is good the lack of evil or evil the lack of good?

Is the glass half empty? Or is the glass half full?

Neither exist, it's all perspective.
Neither exists, even with perspective. They're all just projections of your own preferences.

Not really, I just wanted to show you that painting everything blue was a bad idea.

Considering I have no particular objection to everything being painted blue (it being my favorite color) I'm not sure how well you're going to do with that. ;)

Considering I have no particular objection to everything being painted blue (it being my favorite color) I'm not sure how well you're going to do with that. ;)

Try eating a hamburger painted blue. :p

I'm a little surprised "evil" is just as popular as "good".

Try eating a hamburger painted blue. :p

I've eaten worse. I went to public school, you know. :cool:

"You see, Lonestar, evil will always triumph over good because good is dumb."

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Evil is always way cooler.....

except in this one isolated case (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrPY8APUgPE)

In a world of objective morality I would totally opt for evil.

In the words of the great Satan: Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes.

Also in the words of the great Satan:
But what if you never change? What if YOU remain a sandy little butthole?

I'm a little surprised "evil" is just as popular as "good".

Why would you be surprised by that under any circumstances?
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Neither exists, even with perspective. They're all just projections of your own preferences.

I would classify that as your perspective of things.


And to answer the OP again: Evil doesn't exist, I can only use my powers for Good and for Awesome (and a cookie for reference).

Good are stronger together, and have better infusion skills. But evil have more potential targets, and debuffs are just fun. And why is nobody mentioning neutral? Tattoo of Balance FTW.

Ambition is the greatest evil of all, where as apathy can be considered the greatest virtue. :D

Ohh sorry I thought this was about wood and weavils?

Surly the both are interdependant?

I love the subject line.

Click Stand;13044762']Is good the lack of evil or evil the lack of good?

Good and evil can exist at the same time, so neither is a lack of the other.

What a pointless question to ask... in general of all places. NSG is filled to the brim with moral relativists so you will essentially get many variations on the same answer: there is no good, and there is no evil. Then the thread will fill up with spam, joke posts, and an endless clusterfuck of debate between the aforementioned relativists about who has the best take on the matter, with the least contradictions.

The stereotype of 'good' is Superman. Superman is an idiot. Evil is more intelligent, more classier, and just better at everything all round.

I mean take a book like Harry Potter. The lead character is a gimp. The most uninteresting person ever to grace fiction. Whereas people who are prone to evil deeds, even occasionally are much more interesting ie. Snape.

What a pointless question to ask... in general of all places. NSG is filled to the brim with moral relativists so you will essentially get many variations on the same answer: there is no good, and there is no evil. Then the thread will fill up with spam, joke posts, and an endless clusterfuck of debate between the aforementioned relativists about who has the best take on the matter, with the least contradictions.

If you ask me, that is what the OP intended!

...moral relativists so you will essentially get many variations on the same answer: there is no good, and there is no evil.
Wouldn't that be a moral nilhilists position? :)

I would like to see, in general, whether you support good or evil.
"Good" and "Ebil" are point-of-view related.
You and Osama and Bush support "good"
We all support "good"
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good (such as Western capitalism) versus evil (such as Eastern communism).whatever you meant to say, you are not asking a clear question.. some will see this poll as -supporting- East VS West imperialisms.
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There seem to be many different opinions on this forum... and thats why I like it so much. ;)

BTW.. I voted "meh" (Myrth)

It's all an illusion. There is no giant Scoreboard in the Sky that says X is good and Y is evil. It is all what we as societies deem is good or evil.

Clearly Society will view good as best, but that somethings might need to be done that are distasteful even abhorrent to its values. That would be "necessary evil."

Unless of course you believe in Religion as the source for ethics. Which I don't. Religions reflect the ethics of their societies during developmental periods. So society is determining what is good or evil anyway. They just use Religion as the justification.

Yes I understand the implications of what I said. It means that the 9/11 hijackers are only evil to us, that others can call them heroes and they are just as right as we are when we call them murderers. It means if somebody raped and killed my daughter they wouldn't be evil. Since I'm in a society that condemns child rape and murder I could call it evil but that doesn't make the act inherently evil. (Still wouldn't make me feel any better though)

Religious types can put up their sputtering and spluttering. Remember it only has value if I share your religious beliefs, which I don't. So no, God does not determine ethics, IT only determines YOUR ethics. And as I said, IT doesn't really determine the ethics anyway. Since men wrote the religious texts and make the interpretations. Oh I'll stop, too many facts confuse the religious. They might blow a fuse or something.

"They're both fine choices, whatever floats your boat."

"They're both fine choices, whatever floats your boat."

I keep tellin' ya, Water!

Chaotic neutral ftw.

"Good" and "Ebil" are point-of-view related.
You and Osama and Bush support "good"
We all support "good"
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whatever you meant to say, you are not asking a clear question.. some will see this poll as -supporting- East VS West imperialisms.
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and thats why I like it so much. ;)

BTW.. I voted "meh" (Myrth)

Below that paragraph I explained I was kidding. Of course everyone support good, but often people will make it out as if their side is "good", and the other side is "evil", instead of admitting they just have a different opinion.

I'm surprised how many responses there are. This whole thing was kind of a joke.