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If you were president of the US...

Soviestan
10-09-2007, 20:53
what would you do differently than the current President? I for one would change the tax code so that I didn't have to pay as much.
HotRodia
10-09-2007, 20:57
I'd read the Constitution thoroughly and understand it.
The Tribes Of Longton
10-09-2007, 20:58
Try not to invade too many people. I wouldn't be a War President.

Oh, and I'd know something about foreign politics and politicians.
Alkenrelash
10-09-2007, 20:59
If I were president I'd... umm... ban abortion, save the invironment, totally revamp the school system, continue the war in Iraq, send illegal immagrants back to Mexico BUT make it easier for Mexicans to become legal citizens, and... ummm... make Cookie Day an official holiday.:D
Wilgrove
10-09-2007, 21:00
Repeal 16th amendment
Instate the Fair Tax Plan
Build two 50 foot walls across the border between Mexico/US with guard towers every 5 miles.
Reform the immigration code to make it easier for immigrants to come here and work here provided that their country turn over all records of the individual wishing to come here.
Start a massive country wide search for illegals and deport them.
repeal all laws that prevent third party from taking part in national races like the Presidential races.
Give HUGE tax breaks for companies providing alternative fuels and means of energy, same goes for citizens.
End our dependency on foreign oil
Pull out of Iraq and add more troops to Afghanistan.
Tell Pakistan to either turn over Bin Laden or prepared to be invaded.
Invade Pakistan, hunt down Bin Laden and have him stand trail in the United States.
Withdraw the United States from the UN, and start charging the UN property taxes as well as rent.
Decrease federal government size by at least 60%
Decentralize the federal government
and for LG, have a National Mud Day! :)
Copiosa Scotia
10-09-2007, 21:01
Resign, because man, this sucks.
Glorious Alpha Complex
10-09-2007, 21:05
1: I would put an end to the war in Iraq within six months.

2: I would put enormous pressure on congress to repeal the following acts: The Military commissions act of 2006, the Patriot Act, The Warner Act, and probably a few others of which I'm not immediately aware.

3: I would put pressure on getting New Orleans truly back on it's feet, and moving all the former residents currently waiting in trailer parks back into the city.

4: I would shore up any other massive mistakes that this presidency has made, not all of which immediately come to mind.

5: I would wholly endorse universal health care, to the point of threatening to veto all bills until I was given a universal health care bill I felt I could sign.

6: I would make it known that I would veto any bill I felt was not in line with a new budget designed to get America in the black by 2012 or so.

7: I would do what I can to reestablish dignity to the office of president.
Law Abiding Criminals
10-09-2007, 21:08
I would, in no particular order:

Find someone to be a really good VP who's completely beyond corruption
Get elected with this person/robot as my VP
Fake my own death
Let this person become VP
Go to New Zealand and have top-secret plastic surgery done so I don't look the same
Open my own dry-cleaning business
Have a beer

Because, to be honest, being President is way too damn much work.
Laterale
10-09-2007, 21:09
I'd make good decisions, like only invading countries that really warrant it. *checks list* I guess no invasions.
Neo Art
10-09-2007, 21:10
If I were president I'd... umm... ban abortion

well you'd be the second president in a row that doesn't understand how the constitution works.
Neo Art
10-09-2007, 21:11
If I was president,
I'd get elected on Friday, assasinated on Saturday,
and buried on Sunday.

If I was president...
If I was president

An old man told me, instead of spending billions on the war,
we can use some of that money, in the ghetto.
I know some so poor, they use the spring as the shower,
when screaming "fight the power".
That's when the vulture devoured

[chorus]
If I was president,
I'd get elected on Friday, assasinated on Saturday,
and buried on Sunday.

If I was president...
If I was president...
If I was president...
If I was president

But the radio won't play this.
They call this rebel music.
How can you refuse it, children of moses?

[chorus]
If I was president,
I'd get elected on Friday, assasinated on Saturday,
and buried on Sunday.

If I was president...
If i was president

Tell the children the truth, the truth.
Christopher Columbus didn't discover America.
Tell them the truth.
The truth
YEAH! Tell them about Marcus Garvey.
The truth YEAH! The truth.
Tell them about Martin Luther King.
Tell them the truth.
The Truth.
Tell them about JFK

If I was President
[chorus]
If I was president,
I'd get elected on Friday, assasinated on Saturday,
and buried on Sunday.

If I was president...
If I was president
Wilgrove
10-09-2007, 21:11
1: I would put an end to the war in Iraq within six months.

Agree with


2: I would put enormous pressure on congress to repeal the following acts: The Military commissions act of 2006, the Patriot Act, The Warner Act, and probably a few others of which I'm not immediately aware.

Agree


3: I would put pressure on getting New Orleans truly back on it's feet, and moving all the former residents currently waiting in trailer parks back into the city.

Or you could just move it back a few miles so it's not below sea level.

4: I would shore up any other massive mistakes that this presidency has made, not all of which immediately come to mind.

Just don't touch the tax breaks and we'll be fine.

5: I would wholly endorse universal health care, to the point of threatening to veto all bills until I was given a universal health care bill I felt I could sign.

Don't agree with, it'll just expand the power of government and have you seen how well the government tend to run things? Not very well.

6: I would make it known that I would veto any bill I felt was not in line with a new budget designed to get America in the black by 2012 or so.

Does this include tax hikes?

7: I would do what I can to reestablish dignity to the office of president.

That went out the window when Watergate broke, and it's not coming back.
Nouvelle Wallonochie
10-09-2007, 21:11
well you'd be the second president in a row that doesn't understand how the constitution works.

Just the second? Although I am pretty sure they know how it works, they just don't care.
Myu in the Middle
10-09-2007, 21:12
what would you do differently than the current President?
Are we assuming that we're President as a result of a successful mandate, or simply magically having been appointed to the post? Since that's essentially the difference between doing whatever the public want (appointment) and fulfilling your own political ideals (election victory).

Incidentally, for the latter, I'd be largely nationalising essential industries like food production, electricity and telecomms, arms manufacture, pharmaceuticals etc., providing much more public funding for R&D in the sciences and for the arts and education, and improving the quality of public services, while repealing the recent government trend towards restricting its own citizens in their private lives. Also, though it goes without saying, I'd head foreign policy up directly and try to reconsile with the middle east (aiming for peaceful cohabitation while at the same time acknowledging our differing ideological perspectives) and focus more on strengthening ties with Europe, India and China. We'd also work to engage in more dialog with Russia, though it would not be tactically advised for us to be directly engaged in confronting them about recent military developments.
Great Void
10-09-2007, 21:23
I'd learn how to ride a Segway and eat a pretzel.

Both major stumbling blocks in one's precidency.
Good Lifes
10-09-2007, 21:23
The code is already set so those in his tax bracket don't pay. If anything I would go back to the pre 1980 tax code that at least brought in some income so the children wouldn't have the entire burden of three generations.

I would make a trip to Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Damascus and Tehran and do a lot of begging and apologizing.

I would take a class in the cultures and religions of the world.

I would set a fine of $1000 per illegal worker per day. That would drive up the wages for the bottom and put more spending money into the economy.

I would issue a "green card" to anyone with a college diploma that wasn't a criminal or otherwise disqualified.

Depending on the money available, I would start universal health coverage at least for children.

I would revamp the "Peace Corps" as the way the US handles foreign policy rather than the military.

I would cut military funding to foreign armies and take the money to Gaza. I would then cut a deal where they agree to a cease fire and we would take the money and build a port, water systems, sewers, schools, roads, etc. Then give micro loans for them to start building businesses. In 50 years Gaza could look like Hong Kong. And there would be a lot more peace in the Mid-East.

I would begin a pull-out of military world-wide. Europe and Japan no longer need US troops or equipment. I would cut the navy by at least 25%. Our allies (If we have any left after GW) can build their forces.

I would reissue the first amendment and require that it be read to every class in every school instead of the "pledge"

I would give more power to the states. They seem to handle things much better than the Fed and at lower cost.

I would give give a substantial sum to any area that would build one of the reactors that actually burns nuclear waste from the other reactors and warheads.

I would look into the conversion of solar power to hydrogen then piping the hydrogen to factories and cities for energy.

I would do away with patent protection for unused patents that would save energy.

I would reinstitute the energy tax laws the Reagan killed. We were well on our way to energy independence before Reagan's "tax reform".

I would make sure the basic services, such as bridges, roads, airports, ports, etc., were in shape to handle todays traffic.

gosh, this could go on forever....better quit for now.....expect more later
Kira-Kakka
10-09-2007, 21:26
Build two 50 foot walls across the border between Mexico/US with guard towers every 5 miles.

That's quite an expensive solution. You seem extremely xenophobic.

End our dependency on foreign oil

Easier said then done. What is your plan?

Myself I'd look into the latest "breeder" reactors for nuclear power as option A. Supposedly they can recycle fuel and are very efficient and produce less waste.

After that I'd go with a combo solar (the next largest energy source after fossil fuels and nuclear energy) wind, thermal, and hydroelectric.


Tell Pakistan to either turn over Bin Laden or prepared to be invaded.

The US can't afford to invade Pakistan, and even if they did they might not be able to catch bin Laden. Army vehicles can't go into the area where he is suspected of being. The territory even protects him from bombing...you're not making a reasonable request. The Pakistani army has no power in the Northwest Frontier Province. They've been defeated by tribal warlords every time they attempt to go in. The US would have a hard time as well.


Invade Pakistan, hunt down Bin Laden and have him stand trail in the United States.

You'd piss off the entire world, particularly the Pakistanis. To catch one enemy you would create millions.
Wilgrove
10-09-2007, 21:37
That's quite an expensive solution. You seem extremely xenophobic.

The entire country wants secured borders, that's what I'm going to give them

Easier said then done. What is your plan?

Have a slow withdraw over five years while increasing our alternative fuel production with the tax breaks I mentioned. For Bio-Fuel (for cars) I would give tax break for every barrel of Bio-Fuel they produce. I would also invest in Nuclear Power, and close down oil burning power plants as well as coal plants.


Myself I'd look into the latest "breeder" reactors for nuclear power as option A. Supposedly they can recycle fuel and are very efficient and produce less waste.

Good idea, I'll...steal it from you.

After that I'd go with a combo solar (the next largest energy source after fossil fuels and nuclear energy) wind, thermal, and hydroelectric.


More good idea that I'll steal. :)

The US can't afford to invade Pakistan, and even if they did they might not be able to catch bin Laden. Army vehicles can't go into the area where he is suspected of being. The territory even protects him from bombing...you're not making a reasonable request. The Pakistani army has no power in the Northwest Frontier Province. They've been defeated by tribal warlords every time they attempt to go in. The US would have a hard time as well.

If Pakistan refuse or can't hand over Bin Laden, we will either assist Pakistan in the Northwest Province or we will take wave after waves of B-52 bombers and just carpet bomb the whole area until we get result. However, this is a last resort and I'm hoping to find an alternative to capturing our #1 enemy.

You'd piss off the entire world, particularly the Pakistanis. To catch one enemy you would create millions.

Yes, but what can they do. We don't need their oil anymore. By the time I start my move on Bin Laden, we'd already be independent of foreign oil, so they'd lose a lot of revenue from us. So it'll be interesting to see how well they can fight after losing their #1 customer.
Neo Art
10-09-2007, 21:43
Repeal 16th amendment
Instate the Fair Tax Plan
Build two 50 foot walls across the border between Mexico/US with guard towers every 5 miles.
Reform the immigration code to make it easier for immigrants to come here and work here provided that their country turn over all records of the individual wishing to come here.
repeal all laws that prevent third party from taking part in national races like the Presidential races.
Give HUGE tax breaks for companies providing alternative fuels and means of energy, same goes for citizens.
End our dependency on foreign oil
Pull out of Iraq and add more troops to Afghanistan.
Decrease federal government size by at least 60%
Decentralize the federal government
and for LG, have a National Mud Day! :)

Ignoring the...hopeless naivity of the other things on your list, you realize that all of the ones that I have left here the president can't actually do right?
Neo Art
10-09-2007, 21:45
Yes, but what can they do.

Ignoring the rest of the post for now, as to "what they can do", I dunno, they already appear to know that they can fly planes into buildings.

What do you THINK a country you just declared war on is going to do? And while pakistan might be a small nation, what do you think all the other nations in the world that tend to not like the idea you just carpet bombed a country are going to do?
Wilgrove
10-09-2007, 21:45
Ignoring the...hopeless naivity of the other things on your list, you realize that all of the ones that I have left here the president can't actually do right?

Oh, I'll get Congress to play ball with me, I will. *smirks and evil chuckle*
Neo Art
10-09-2007, 21:47
Oh, I'll get Congress to play ball with me, I will. *smirks and evil chuckle*

uh huh....

and 3/4 of the state legislators as well despite the fact that repealing the 16th amendment makes for a whole SHIT ton more work for them to do?
Kira-Kakka
10-09-2007, 21:48
The entire country wants secured borders, that's what I'm going to give them

You could make something like national ID cards for more rigorous employment and get rid of most of them. A miniature Great Wall of China is really expensive, I would expect.


Have a slow withdraw over five years while increasing our alternative fuel production with the tax breaks I mentioned. For Bio-Fuel (for cars) I would give tax break for every barrel of Bio-Fuel they produce. I would also invest in Nuclear Power, and close down oil burning power plants as well as coal plants.


I think bio-fuels are a myth perpetuated by the advertising and lobbying of farmers from Iowa and other places. Corn based ethanol uses more oil energy than alcohol energy that you get out of it. The only really renewable bio-fuel is the sugar-cane in Brazil (which we currently aren't allowed to import without a tax that makes it too expensive, thanks to the lobbying of the Iowa group).

However bio-fuels as a whole are worse than pure solar energy. Bio-fuels are a form of solar energy, since they come from plants using photosynthesis. No matter what plant it is, there is less energy gained per area from plants than from solar collectors. It's because the plants convert energy, don't collect all the energy that hits them, waste energy on things we can't use (like it's body). Solar panels could also collect solar energy more hour per day. It is really impossible for the total energy gained from bio-fuels to be greater than the solar energy we could get from solar collectors/panels in the same area.


If Pakistan refuse or can't hand over Bin Laden, we will either assist Pakistan in the Northwest Province or we will take wave after waves of B-52 bombers and just carpet bomb the whole area until we get result. However, this is a last resort and I'm hoping to find an alternative to capturing our #1 enemy.


It is a very big area to carpet bomb, and there seem to be innumerable refuges from bombing in the natural caves alone. There are also non-terrorists living there.
Wilgrove
10-09-2007, 21:48
Ignoring the rest of the post for now, as to "what they can do", I dunno, they already appear to know that they can fly planes into buildings.

What do you THINK a country you just declared war on is going to do? And while pakistan might be a small nation, what do you think all the other nations in the world that tend to not like the idea you just carpet bombed a country are going to do?

Like I said, the carpet bomb is last resort. I am hoping that as long as I have that on the table during negotiation for the custody of Bin Laden, the Pakistan and anyone else who is harboring him will be more cooperative with us and hopefully we'll be able to work something out where Bin Laden will be in our custody and Pakistan will get to keep their government and country.
Callisdrun
10-09-2007, 21:50
I'd try to actually get something done about global warming.

I'd act more in accordance with the Constitution. I'd respect the bill of rights.

I wouldn't be so quick to invade other countries.
Neo Art
10-09-2007, 21:51
Like I said, the carpet bomb is last resort. I am hoping that as long as I have that on the table during negotiation for the custody of Bin Laden, the Pakistan and anyone else who is harboring him will be more cooperative with us and hopefully we'll be able to work something out where Bin Laden will be in our custody and Pakistan will get to keep their government and country.

yeah, and people really like being told to do what america tells them to do or we will destroy them.

That works SO well.

It's this bullshit cowboy mentality of people have to do what we say if they want to "get to keep their government and country" that has turned america's place on the world stage into such a dismal position. This coupled with your other idea of withdrawing from the UN would turn us into an international pariah.
Wilgrove
10-09-2007, 21:51
uh huh....

and 3/4 of the state legislators as well despite the fact that repealing the 16th amendment makes for a whole SHIT ton more work for them to do?

During my Presidential run, I will let America realize the failure of the Democrat and Republican Party and I hope that we'll start seeing a sizable Libertarian party in Congress who will agree with me, and of course the Libertarian Party will negogiate with the Republican Party so they'll play with me too. The Democrats aren't going to go for my ideas so there's no use trying to bargain with them. Once my first few measure pass, and if they are successful, I will make several speeches to America about how the Republican and Libertarians are working together to create a better America. In re-election, I will get re-elected and more Libertarians and Republicans will get voted in. :)
Ruby City
10-09-2007, 21:52
My top priority would be to keep as much of the economical dominance as possible. China is just so much bigger it's inevitable that they will become the dominant superpower eventually but the US could stay in the race if they handle stuff the right way. For example I would...

Don't start another full scale war. Rather try to convince the general public in muslim countries that the conflict is over and we can all be friends now. Then the terrorists will lose their support at home and die out. Ecnourage a lot of investments in the middle east. Sell it as paying for rebuilding their economy to improve their opinion of the US. Make sure the end result is that corporations from the US owns much of their economy.

Sign anything Hollywood and the big record companies want and pressure other countries to go in the same direction. To help mass produced American artists and movies keep control over culture away from foreign indie artists. Also pressure countries that allow production of copies of patented American inventions.

Take the lead in international diplomacy. Invite foreign leaders to discuss treaties and stuff. Declare that the UN needs a major overhaul and make sure US plays the key role in improving it. Act as if US was the chairman among nations. Try to lead international treaties in a direction that is beneficial for US business.

Make sure everyone who has the talent and motivation gets a good education. Cheap labour can always be outsourced to India or imported from Mexico. It's highly educated people that will be needed in the future.

Help poor areas get more productive somehow. Start projects to deal with the problems that keep those areas back. Maybe offer tax cuts for investing there. Offer the unemployed reeducation to jobs that are in short supply.

Start any other project that would improve the economy. I don't know exactly what, maybe improve the railroad network and clean up among stupid laws that get in people's way even when it wouldn't be necessary.

I surely forgot a lot of stuff since I'm a European.
Wilgrove
10-09-2007, 21:53
yeah, and people really like being told to do what america tells them to do or we will destroy them.

That works SO well.

It's this bullshit cowboy mentality of people have to do what we say if they want to "get to keep their government and country" that has turned america's place on the world stage into such a dismal position. This coupled with your other idea of withdrawing from the UN would turn us into an international pariah.

The Citizen of America wants Bin Landen, and the majority of them thinks the UN is a failure. I plan to deliver Bin Laden to the American people to stand trail within our borders and to withdraw from the UN.
Callisdrun
10-09-2007, 21:53
The code is already set so those in his tax bracket don't pay. If anything I would go back to the pre 1980 tax code that at least brought in some income so the children wouldn't have the entire burden of three generations.

I would make a trip to Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Damascus and Tehran and do a lot of begging and apologizing.

I would take a class in the cultures and religions of the world.

I would set a fine of $1000 per illegal worker per day. That would drive up the wages for the bottom and put more spending money into the economy.

I would issue a "green card" to anyone with a college diploma that wasn't a criminal or otherwise disqualified.

Depending on the money available, I would start universal health coverage at least for children.

I would revamp the "Peace Corps" as the way the US handles foreign policy rather than the military.

I would cut military funding to foreign armies and take the money to Gaza. I would then cut a deal where they agree to a cease fire and we would take the money and build a port, water systems, sewers, schools, roads, etc. Then give micro loans for them to start building businesses. In 50 years Gaza could look like Hong Kong. And there would be a lot more peace in the Mid-East.

I would begin a pull-out of military world-wide. Europe and Japan no longer need US troops or equipment. I would cut the navy by at least 25%. Our allies (If we have any left after GW) can build their forces.

I would reissue the first amendment and require that it be read to every class in every school instead of the "pledge"

I would give more power to the states. They seem to handle things much better than the Fed and at lower cost.

I would give give a substantial sum to any area that would build one of the reactors that actually burns nuclear waste from the other reactors and warheads.

I would look into the conversion of solar power to hydrogen then piping the hydrogen to factories and cities for energy.

I would do away with patent protection for unused patents that would save energy.

I would reinstitute the energy tax laws the Reagan killed. We were well on our way to energy independence before Reagan's "tax reform".

I would make sure the basic services, such as bridges, roads, airports, ports, etc., were in shape to handle todays traffic.

gosh, this could go on forever....better quit for now.....expect more later

Damn. That's a pretty good list.
Neo Art
10-09-2007, 21:56
The Citizen of America wants Bin Landen, and the majority of them thinks the UN is a failure. I plan to deliver Bin Laden to the American people to stand trail within our borders and to withdraw from the UN.

both of which are tremendously stupid ideas.

You know what americans also like? Jobs. Jobs that will be severely indangered by these types of actions which are effectively given the finger to the international community.

So what exactly would you tell the american population that your withdrawl from the UN and invasion of another country caused every american with a visa to the vast majority of the countries to be revoked, and there is massive job loss as the rest of the world stops trading with america.
Wilgrove
10-09-2007, 21:59
You could make something like national ID cards for more rigorous employment and get rid of most of them. A miniature Great Wall of China is really expensive, I would expect.

Eh people wouldn't like the National ID card, something about conspiracy theories or One World Government, etc. Whatever. The people want to see something that they can see and touch. two walls works perfectly.

I think bio-fuels are a myth perpetuated by the advertising and lobbying of farmers from Iowa and other places. Corn based ethanol uses more oil energy than alcohol energy that you get out of it. The only really renewable bio-fuel is the sugar-cane in Brazil (which we currently aren't allowed to import without a tax that makes it too expensive, thanks to the lobbying of the Iowa group).

Oh it works, I've seen it work on General Aviation aircrafts, and the GA aircrafts engine are very picky about fuel. So if they work for GA aircraft, they'll work for cars. Plus there are more than one Bio-Fuel than just Ethanol.


It is a very big area to carpet bomb, and there seem to be innumerable refuges from bombing in the natural caves alone. There are also non-terrorists living there.

The non-terrorist will be given a chance to move out. I hope to work alongside with Pakistan to flush out the territory of terrorist by securing it off, and giving the Pakistanis a chance to get out of the area and then drop bunker busters on the caves.
Glorious Alpha Complex
10-09-2007, 21:59
Just don't touch the tax breaks and we'll be fine.
Does this include tax hikes?
So what am I to do if it's in the best interests of the country to temporarily raise taxes? would you prefer being in debt forever?


Don't agree with, it'll just expand the power of government and have you seen how well the government tend to run things? Not very well.

Have a look at the Single Payer system. It doesn't put government in charge of people's health, it just takes the place of the HMOs that are currently running the health insurance industry.


That went out the window when Watergate broke, and it's not coming back.
Perhaps this sort of fatalism is the only reason it hasn't come back yet.
Wilgrove
10-09-2007, 22:00
both of which are tremendously stupid ideas.

You know what americans also like? Jobs. Jobs that will be severely indangered by these types of actions which are effectively given the finger to the international community.

So what exactly would you tell the american population that your withdrawl from the UN and invasion of another country caused every american with a visa to the vast majority of the countries to be revoked, and there is massive job loss as the rest of the world stops trading with america.

Eh it didn't happen when we invaded Iraq.
Ultraviolent Radiation
10-09-2007, 22:01
Repeal the declaration of independence. :p
Neo Art
10-09-2007, 22:02
Eh it didn't happen when we invaded Iraq.

yeah, that's my point. It didn't happen when we invaded Iraq because the international community was willing to trust the US and assume it had some credibility.

Exactly how many of those kind of invasions do you think the international community is going to tolerate? Just how much credibility do you think we have left?
Smunkeeville
10-09-2007, 22:04
So what am I to do if it's in the best interests of the country to temporarily raise taxes? would you prefer being in debt forever?
most Americans prefer being in debt to being responsible.
Nouvelle Wallonochie
10-09-2007, 22:04
I would make a trip to Paris

You wouldn't need to. Sarko loves us already

Ignoring the...hopeless naivity of the other things on your list, you realize that all of the ones that I have left here the president can't actually do right?

Oh come now, being President is no fun if you actually have to follow the rules.

Democrat and Republican Party

That's twice today I've seen people do that. Anyone care to explain?
Kira-Kakka
10-09-2007, 22:09
Oh it works, I've seen it work on General Aviation aircrafts, and the GA aircrafts engine are very picky about fuel. So if they work for GA aircraft, they'll work for cars. Plus there are more than one Bio-Fuel than just Ethanol.


The fuel works fine, it's just not a renewable source of energy like it is touted.

It is an entirely futile endeavour that is costing tax payers billions.
Beluzia and Bailon
10-09-2007, 22:27
Act one- The President recognizes the fact that the declaration of independence was illegal and hereby returns sovereign powers back to Her Majestys Parliament of Great Britain. The USA is no longer a nation.
Act two- The Congress that has acted as the legislature for the former colonies is hereby disbanded, it's members should immediatly surrender all claim to office, and go back to the sand pit/play room from whence they came.
Act three- The unit of currency from this day forward is the Pound.
Act four- States will be divided into new constituencies.
Act five- Each State will send an MP(Member of Parliament) to Westminster to represent them in Parliament.
Act six- The constituencies within states will return an MAC (Member of American Council) to Washington. This Council shall advise the MPs on American Policy.
Act seven- The Governor of the American Colonies shall be appointed by the Monarch of the United Kingdom under advice from the Prime Minister and shall serve a term of 6 years before his office is reviewed.
Act eight- The Governor shall set a budget to be approved by the American Council and Parliament.
Act nine- for the safety of the whole planet, all branches of the millitary located within the American Territories shall be immediatly disbanded.
A new commandment will be added to all American Bibles "Thou shalt not meddle in other countries affairs".
Act 10- It is forbidden to say the phrase "God Bless America", because I think its annoying. Why should America be more blessed than anywhere else?

(this is fun!)
Domici
10-09-2007, 23:04
what would you do differently than the current President? I for one would change the tax code so that I didn't have to pay as much.

1. Pull the troops out of Iraq after asking anyone still there with us to get out.

2. Bring treason charges against the financiers of the Bush party and it's benefactors.

3. Put Bush and his cabinet in Gitmo.

4. Officially close Gitmo.

5. Enjoy the powers of secrecy established under the Bush Administration by not disclosing what I've done with the Bush Administration.

6. Disclose all the stuff that he has inappropriately kept hidden and anything he has absurdly "reclassified."

7. Award the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Charles Manson, P Diddy, Amy Fisher, Carrot Top, Fred Phelps, and other national embarrassments, then officially retire that particular medal.

8. Come up with a new medal to award to non-Bush recipients who actually deserved it.
Ulrichland
11-09-2007, 00:51
what would you do differently than the current President? I for one would change the tax code so that I didn't have to pay as much.

Once I swept into office I`d sell your childrens organs go zoos for meat and I`d break into peoples houses at night and wreck up the place!
UNITIHU
11-09-2007, 01:04
Completely legalize cannabis, lower the drinking age to 18, do something about income tax, get rid of that silly electoral college, make schools a state responsibility, make government completely sectarian, stop the real ID act, create completely open borders between our nation and all others, and colonize the moon.

A bunch of other stuff too. I'd definitely be a strict constitutionalist, and a basically all around rights lover. As libertarian as you can go without fringing on anarchy. I don't know, I'm tired.

Make Super Bowl Sunday an official holiday, and the day after a required late opening. :D
New Limacon
11-09-2007, 01:28
That's twice today I've seen people do that. Anyone care to explain?
Many people (well, some...okay, Republicans) say "Democrat Party" because otherwise they would have to call it the "Democratic Party". "Democratic is a "good" word, so calling the Democrats member of the Democratic Party would imply they are good. Of course, both parties' names are equally meaningless, as all they suggest is the two major parties are in favor of a system of government that holds elections. (It's like the Good Party and the Nice Party).

I don't know the reason the posters used it, they might just be trying to avoid being confusing. However, the real name of the party is the Democratic Party, and that's what it should be called.
Nouvelle Wallonochie
11-09-2007, 01:38
I don't know the reason the posters used it, they might just be trying to avoid being confusing. However, the real name of the party is the Democratic Party, and that's what it should be called.

I know the proper name of the party, I was just trying to find out what purpose these posters have in deliberately using the wrong name.
Zilam
11-09-2007, 01:38
I would speak coherently.

-edit-

Screwed that up! :D
Gartref
11-09-2007, 01:39
If you were president of the US...

I would have sex with the interns.
Lunatic Goofballs
11-09-2007, 01:45
Wow. Where to begin? Well first, I would replace all presidential appointed cabinet personnel with competent people. I like competent people. They mean less work for me and make me look good. :)

In addition, most major cabinet positions will consist of small three man committees: Three Secretaries of Defense, Three Secretaries of Energy, Three Secretaries of Education, etc. I value multiple opinions and perspectives.

I would encourage the Electoral College and the state governments to alter election laws to greatly improve the likelihood of independent and smaller party candidates winnin congressional seats as well as eliminate the election law stranglehold the two major parties have on the country.

I would, of course, recall all troops from Iraq. I would encourage the repeal of the Patriot Act and review governmental policies on eavesdropping and wire tapping. I would encourage the dvelopment of renewable energy sources including a project to harness tidal energy that would be the largest government project since the Hoover Dam.

Last, but certainly not least, I would mount a catapult to the roof of the White House and on special occasions(or whenever I'm in the mood), I will launch large masses of oatmeal, pudding, mud and other semisolids at unsuspecting tourists. :)

I would declare June 21st to be Naked Day. :)
Non Aligned States
11-09-2007, 01:50
If Pakistan refuse or can't hand over Bin Laden, we will either assist Pakistan in the Northwest Province or we will take wave after waves of B-52 bombers and just carpet bomb the whole area until we get result. However, this is a last resort and I'm hoping to find an alternative to capturing our #1 enemy.


Goodbye sane army dictatorship, hello radicals with nuclear warheads.
UNITIHU
11-09-2007, 01:53
I would declare June 21st to be Naked Day. :)
Is it any coincidence that that is the last day of school for a good chunk of students around the nation? :D
Lunatic Goofballs
11-09-2007, 01:55
Is it any coincidence that that is the last day of school for a good chunk of students around the nation? :D

Well, it's the Summer Solstice. It's also currently Hike Naked Day.

So I'm really just dropping the 'Hike' part. :)
Free Socialist Allies
11-09-2007, 01:57
End the war in Iraq

Greatly reduce our military and weapons budget

Charge Bush and his entire cabinet with treason

Establish universal healthcare

Legalize all drugs

Legalize euthenasia

Impose a "religion tax", so that churches are taxed like normal businesses

Abolish the FCC

Ban fur imports and productions, also ban vivisection of all forms

Automatic amnesty for all illegal immigrants

Make the legal immigration process far easier and simpler

Abolish mairrage licenses; make mairrage totally private out of govt. contol

Reduce prison population, offer progressive rehablitation
Free Socialist Allies
11-09-2007, 02:03
And 2 minor things I left out:

I would grant automatic pardon to any and all animal liberation activists in prison, and much less importantly

I would make 420 a national holiday
Senate Killers
11-09-2007, 02:41
Enact the fair tax.

Repeal the 16th amendment.

Repeal the amendment which allowed senators to be voted for and return that power to the states.

Grant more immediate government powers to states and even more to cities. In my view the whole point of having different places to live in is so you can find a place who's laws you actually like.

Repeal the Electoral College.

Use the economic boost provided by the replacement of the payroll, income, capital gains, corporate and other taxes to fund a health care plan which entailed giving every American citizen enough money to pick and choose their own health insurance.

Legalize Cannabis.

Majorly decentralize the government and return even MORE power to the states.

Declare illegal immigration as unarmed(and in many case full blown) invasion. And the American citizenry are allowed to act in accordance.

Make rudamentry English mandatory for immigration(either already known or placed in a class to learn). And make the "line" faster and remove much of the red tape revolving legal immigration. Thus making legal appealing and illegal certain death.

Legalize Gay marriage on the condition that they are not permitted to adopt children.

Solve our energy crisis by removing the suppression around free energy or over unity devices that have existed since at least the 50's. Including water powered cars and the like.

Repeal the Federal Reserve act.

Start an investigation into the FDA and make available many treatments and drugs currently available in other countries so Americas health can increase.

Among other domestic issues that I can't think of at the moment.

Foreign policy would also change dramitically. Call back out troops from various places around the world. After the fair tax is enacted I would also remove tarriffs on many foreign products. Return to the live and let live policy that was the original policy of the founding fathers. And for the love of humanity find out why most of the planet hates us and try to fix it before we get blown to bits.

All around I'd Rule the US with an iron fist and leave it with more freedoms and more power to the people when I leave office in 4-8 years. I'd generally end up screwing over the legislative, judicial and even the executive branches of government.
Glorious Freedonia
11-09-2007, 21:48
I would have invaded N. Korea and Iran simultaneously with Iraq and Afghanistan. Also, I would beg Congress for more money for National Parks. All about the parks and human rights, oh yeah!
Federal Wisconsin
11-09-2007, 22:06
Pull out of Iraq, lighting the fuse on the nuke before we leave... lol, joking...

I would simply leave Iraq, and go with the policy of "parking lot diplomacy"... IE we don't have to invade, if Iran want's nukes - we will simply bomb their infrastructure and military to dust... The US has the capability... No need to set boots on the ground, I don't really care about "their" welfare, they wish us harm...

Pull out of G8, leave the UN unless they start to reform, build many nuclear reactors, remove incentives to ship industry overseas and build incentives to stay.

It's all about the middle class, both party's only campaign for the extremist vote...
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
11-09-2007, 22:35
I'd set the White House on fire and then collect on the insurance before running off to South America. I hate the amount of responsibility involved in being a college student with a minimum wage job, the presidency would really suck.
First, though, I'd offer amnesty to James Traficant and buy him a sword so that he could stab people in the crotch, as was his original plan:
And then when I get out I will grab a sword like Maximus Meridius Demidius and as a Gladiator I will stab people in the crotch.
Whatwhatia
12-09-2007, 08:32
- pull out of Iraq as soon as realistically possible
- try and find a way to reinforce troops in Afghanistan
- close down Gitmo and repeal the PATRIOT Act (and others like it)
- get rid of 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' for the military
- focus on stopping domestic terrorism (like ELF and Christian Identity, etc) instead of going abroad
- legalize marijuana and mild psychedelic drugs (and end the War on Drugs)
- crack down in illegal immigration
- reinforce the Canadian border and coastal ports (as well as the Mexican border)
- reward corporations and people who use environmentally-friendly methods
- remove all references to 'God' from government documents, including the Pledge and money
- start taxing churches
- try and cut down on income taxes *significantly*
- get rid of the electoral college and rely on the popular vote solely

That's basically it.
Barringtonia
12-09-2007, 08:46
I would go on a 4 year diplomatic trip to the Maldives, Mauritius, the Virgin Isles, Polynesia, Fiji, Bali, some of the nicer beaches of Thailand and Malaysia, Hawaii (fair enough, but great waves), and other places to help mend the damage done to America's foreign relations as well as export American cultural values, which will entail surfing.
South Lorenya
12-09-2007, 09:07
* I'd include a tax hike, but only on the foverpaid -- the first $500,000 (which is enough yearly income for everyone) uses the current tax rates, but after that you pay 50%.
* I'd limit tax decutions to a cap of $50,000.
* I'd replace that awful CAN SPAM act with a CAN'T SPAM act.
* I'd have the generals come up with a plan for us to leave Iraq within 6 months. Thanks to our current "glorious leader" Iraq is a lost case.
* I'd send some of the iraqi troops to Afghanistan (did you know they're #8 on the list of failed states?) and the rest home -- our forces are stretched too thin already.
* I'd move to loosen the restriction on Germany and Japan's militaries to free up our troops some more . Did you know that we have over 75,000 soldiers in Germany and over 40,000 in Japan?
* I'd pardon all the inmates in Guantanamo Bay (save for the ones who have already been charegd with crimes) who swear on their koran (or bible or whatever if they're not muslim) not to commit religious violence and order speedy trials for the rest.
* I'd give whoever forced me into politics a VERY icy stare.
Cameroi
12-09-2007, 09:12
well my first reaction to 20 guys ripping off four airplanes and knocking down 2 1/2 buildings with them, WOULDN'T have been to try and see how many podunk nations half way arround the world i could get away with destroying their infrastructure, killing hundreds of thousands of their civilians, and trying to impose on them puppet dictators that would give american oil companies their oil.

my focus would instead have been, as it always is, on energy and transportation policy, not kissing the backsides of, and protecting, monopolistic interests.

real people, places and things, would always come first, both domesticly and as a matter of my forign policy, whatever i may have had to tell and pretend to the economic intrests i would still have had to have had the backing of to get elected.

sure i'd let them think they'd bought me and that i was their boy, while somehow telegraphing the voting public that i wasn't entirely, somehow getting and staying in the good graces of both sufficiently to get there (and if i knew how to do that in real life i might actually consider running, thin skin and all).

like carter, i wouldn't stay bought once i got in. i wouldn't go out of my way to screw anyone. but, i wouldn't put economic intrests ahead of the kind of world everyone has to live in.

i'd take a long hard look at how i could deregulate the private life of the individual, not the vested corporate intrest. this would probably prevent me from serving a second term. who knows. but i'd do what i could with the four years at least that i'd have.

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South Lorenya
12-09-2007, 09:15
That's nothing, Cameroi. If they threatened to nominate me for a second term, I'd threaten to move to Canada the day my first term ended. >_>
La Habana Cuba
13-09-2007, 09:36
This is just a post of interest not an actual coment either way, the late Governor of Louisiana Huey P Long, The King Fish who ruled like a dictator and entertained the idea of Running for USA President wrote an interesting book called If I were President, has anyone else read this book, I found it at my local library?

There is also a book or books with the Title The King Fish.

Polls and studys done at the time suggest he would have gotten a considerable amount of support.

He stated some socialist like Ideas.

Some called him a dictator, a Fascist, a nazi.

Interesting books, I would recomend them just out of interest.
Indri
13-09-2007, 10:20
If I were president I'd cut taxes, cut spending (the first doesn't work without the second), have a giant marble statue of a guy beating his wife put on the White House lawn with a base covered four obsidian plaques with sexist jokes inscribed on them, repeal all laws of victimless crimes, and rewrite the constitution allowing me to bypass the legislature to do all of this crazy shit before retiring. And not in that order!

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/0/0d/Beatthebitch.jpg
lulz
La Habana Cuba
13-09-2007, 10:27
Correction Post.

The book name I stated as, If I were President is actually called
My First Days in The White House, by Huey Long or Huey Pierce Long,
what confused me was in the book he states If I were President.

One of our fellow nations once posted a thread on Huey Long, I did not pay too much attention to the thread at the time to see if it was a good thread or not because I am well read on Huey P Long.

This is just a post of interest not an actual coment either way, the late Governor of Louisiana Huey P Long, The King Fish who ruled like a dictator and entertained the idea of Running for USA President wrote an interesting book called If I were President, has anyone else read this book, I found it at my local library?

There is also a book or books with the Title The King Fish.

Polls and studys done at the time suggest he would have gotten a considerable amount of support.

He stated some socialist like Ideas.

Liberals would love Huey.

Some called him a dictator, a Fascist, a nazi.

Interesting books, I would recomend them just out of interest.
Ifreann
13-09-2007, 10:46
I'd get really really drunk and try and have more sex in the Oval Office than any of my predecessors. I imagine I'll also get impeached at some point.