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Despite a massive investigation in which the police didn't find Madeleine's body, despite the fact that there were traces of blood, despite the difficulties there would be in disposing of Madeleine's body under the intensive gaze of the media, and despite the fact the two have remained calm for so long (seemingly due to their religious convictions and all the support they have received), the Portuguese police are now accusing Madeleine McCann's parents of SEDATING HER (why would there be blood if the child didn't struggle because she was unconscious), hiding the body NEAR THE RESORT for the next 25 days and them somehow, under the media gaze, disposing of the body somewhere else.

This is also despite the fact that the original investigation had serious flaws which made things easy for the abductor(s) and despite the concerns that a journalist expressed about the dodgy actions of Robert Murat and despite the inconsistences and flaws in Murat's "defence" of himself.

Yes, the McCann parents are guilty of extreme stupidty and/or blatant negligence. But to say they did all the above is just clutching at straws and seems to me to be an attempt by the Portuguese police to make themselves look credible instead of like the amateurs they have already shown themselves to be.

bollocks, i've thought as much for ages.

Doesn't surprise me that they've arrested the parents. In fact, I'm surprised it wasn't sooner.

How else would you explain finding her blood in a car that they didn't hire until 25 days after she disappeared?

How else would you explain finding her blood in a car that they didn't hire until 25 days after she disappeared?

quite

How else would you explain finding her blood in a car that they didn't hire until 25 days after she disappeared?
Well clearly, the police magiced up her blood out of nowhere, planted it, and it's all a huge conspiracy, duh :rolleyes:

Well clearly, the police magiced up her blood out of nowhere, planted it, and it's all a huge conspiracy, duh :rolleyes:

Well, that clears things up nicely.

they have to examine EVERY avenue. so yes, the are suspect, but also note, they are not arrested.

they have to examine EVERY avenue. so yes, the are suspect, but also note, they are not arrested.
Ahh they haven't? Teaches me for not reading the news properly :P Still, I'm surprised it's taken so long.

Ahh they haven't? Teaches me for not reading the news properly :P Still, I'm surprised it's taken so long.

I remember hearing this on some news program. under Portuguese law, while the parents are suspects, they are not arrested. However, as suspects, they cannot leave Portugual.

My question is, was the blood in the car Madeleine's? and did they look at the car rental as well as the previous renters of the vehicle?

Ahh they haven't? Teaches me for not reading the news properly :P Still, I'm surprised it's taken so long.

yeh, i always thought the first law of crime solving was suspect the family members first, the person that reported the crime second, and any suspiscious looking blighters 3rd. the parents were obviously criminally negligent to start with, it's hardly that much of a stretch that they might be idiots enough to accidentally kill the kid and try to cover it up.

I remember hearing this on some news program. under Portuguese law, while the parents are suspects, they are not arrested. However, as suspects, they cannot leave Portugual.

My question is, was the blood in the car Madeleine's? and did they look at the car rental as well as the previous renters of the vehicle?
Ahh yeah I remember reading that. "Arrest" was just a slip of the mind. Have they DNA tested the blood?

yeh, i always thought the first law of crime solving was suspect the family members first, the person that reported the crime second, and any suspiscious looking blighters 3rd. the parents were obviously criminally negligent to start with, it's hardly that much of a stretch that they might be idiots enough to accidentally kill the kid and try to cover it up.
Precisely. I think the combined forces of NSG could solve this better than the police!

Well the media haven't been clutching at straws for the past 120 odd days?

This is another sensationalisation because the media cannot get anything else from the portugese police

I also find it disgusting how this case has dominated the media as it has with barely any factual base

I'm wondering how the Portuguese police know the blood in the car belongs to Madeleine.

Or why the police haven't question Dr. Oldfield who had been one of the people to go check on the child. The father was the first one and the mother was the last but when she went the window was open.

Now I'm not a detective or anything but what if the child wandered off by herself after seeing a cat or something because the doctor left the window open because it was warm in the room?

Did any of the reports from the investigation point to signs of forced entry or not? Did they say what DNA they found on the window, since the mother maintains it was opened? What about any DNA on the door or...


Now I'm sure the police have a good enough reason to be questioning the parents but why leave so much unreported when there is a spotlight on the parents who seem like they are indeed innocent?

Why would they offer just a plea to the mother?

Or is the media trying to fill the gaps because there are elements of Portuguese law that prevent the police from talking about the case?

Don't care, don't care...

I think shes dead myself case closed no more flyers

I'm wondering how the Portuguese police know the blood in the car belongs to Madeleine.

Or why the police haven't question Dr. Oldfield who had been one of the people to go check on the child. The father was the first one and the mother was the last but when she went the window was open.

Now I'm not a detective or anything but what if the child wandered off by herself after seeing a cat or something because the doctor left the window open because it was warm in the room?

Did any of the reports from the investigation point to signs of forced entry or not? Did they say what DNA they found on the window, since the mother maintains it was opened? What about any DNA on the door or...


Now I'm sure the police have a good enough reason to be questioning the parents but why leave so much unreported when there is a spotlight on the parents who seem like they are indeed innocent?

Why would they offer just a plea to the mother?

Or is the media trying to fill the gaps because there are elements of Portuguese law that prevent the police from talking about the case?

portuguese police have very strict secrecy laws regarding case details, that much i know. i'm sure they had good reason to conduct an initial 11 hour interview which resulted in a second interview involving a further 22 questions which resulted in her being declared a suspect.

they have to examine EVERY avenue. so yes, the are suspect, but also note, they are not arrested.

Wrong. Technically they have been arrested, and have been placed under a legal status, the name of which escapes me, which is tantamount to a means of giving the police more time to make inquiries.

Anyway, I agree with Tribes. I stopped caring a few weeks ago. Tragic as it is, and I do feel for all connected with her, the world does move on, and the intricacies of a legal case hold little interest for me.

Wrong. Technically they have been arrested, and have been placed under a legal status, the name of which escapes me, which is tantamount to a means of giving the police more time to make inquiries.

Anyway, I agree with Tribes. I stopped caring a few weeks ago. Tragic as it is, and I do feel for all connected with her, the world does move on, and the intricacies of a legal case hold little interest for me.
So they have been officially charged?

Last I've heard (last night) they were only suspects and not arrested.

So they have been officially charged?

Last I've heard (last night) they were only suspects and not arrested.

I heard they'd been arrested and held under a crazy status whereby they have to return to the police every five days, inbetween which they can continue to be harrassed by the media.

I heard they'd been arrested and held under a crazy status whereby they have to return to the police every five days, inbetween which they can continue to be harrassed by the media.
"Arguida" or something? I think formal suspect and arrested are different.

they've simply been named as formal suspects, or "arguidos", which means that while they are not arrested they have legal restrictions on their freedom of moment, i.e. they aren't allowed to leave the country. i don't know if there is an direct equivalent in the law in this country but i would imagine there is something similar.

Let me help. In Brazilian Portuguese, at least, "arguir" is to argue, to discuss. The status of "arguídos" would mean, IF I'm correct, that the person's status as a suspect is arguable. As such, it's a status between normal citizen and suspect. I don't think it has an equivalent in Brazilian, American or British law, though.

"Arguida" or something? I think formal suspect and arrested are different.

eh? I thought you had to be arrested to be declared a suspect, and were then released on bail?:confused:

Anyway, I agree with Tribes. I stopped caring a few weeks ago. Tragic as it is, and I do feel for all connected with her, the world does move on, and the intricacies of a legal case hold little interest for me.That's a bit of a difference of opinion, really. If I'm honest, I never cared. I briefly felt sympathy for some parents losing their child. Then I got very sick of little white blond girl syndrome and was incredibly happy to leave the country for 6 weeks. Then, upon my arrival, I discovered the media can't let this go. Not just the shitty tabloids either, which I would expect to run with this inane drivel. BBC News24, a channel based on its ability to circulate current affairs as they happen and constantly update its information, ran an hour devoted purely to Madeleine McCann. I cannot get over the ridiculous amount of media attention aimed at one missing child. It's no longer even an attempt to find her. Even the Lindburgh Baby kidnapping ran for only 10 weeks.

Incidentally, from what I remember of Portuguese law, a person cannot have their lawyer present until they've been declared an Arguido, or something. It may have been sought by the McCanns.

eh? I thought you had to be arrested to be declared a suspect, and were then released on bail?:confused:

Nope. even in the US, you can be a suspect, but not arrested. once you are arrested, that usually means the police has enough evidence to move to a trial.

How else would you explain finding her blood in a car that they didn't hire until 25 days after she disappeared?

How would you explain the blood if the girl had been sedated and there was therefore no struggle?

And how would you explain the sightings of her, including a number of them in close locations in the same country?

I'm wondering how the Portuguese police know the blood in the car belongs to Madeleine.

Or why the police haven't question Dr. Oldfield who had been one of the people to go check on the child. The father was the first one and the mother was the last but when she went the window was open.

Now I'm not a detective or anything but what if the child wandered off by herself after seeing a cat or something because the doctor left the window open because it was warm in the room?

Did any of the reports from the investigation point to signs of forced entry or not? Did they say what DNA they found on the window, since the mother maintains it was opened? What about any DNA on the door or...


Now I'm sure the police have a good enough reason to be questioning the parents but why leave so much unreported when there is a spotlight on the parents who seem like they are indeed innocent?

Why would they offer just a plea to the mother?

Or is the media trying to fill the gaps because there are elements of Portuguese law that prevent the police from talking about the case?

As the British police said (in much nicer terms): The Portuguese police fucked the case up from the start.

I'm wondering how the Portuguese police know the blood in the car belongs to Madeleine.

Or why the police haven't question Dr. Oldfield who had been one of the people to go check on the child. The father was the first one and the mother was the last but when she went the window was open.

Now I'm not a detective or anything but what if the child wandered off by herself after seeing a cat or something because the doctor left the window open because it was warm in the room?

Did any of the reports from the investigation point to signs of forced entry or not? Did they say what DNA they found on the window, since the mother maintains it was opened? What about any DNA on the door or...


Now I'm sure the police have a good enough reason to be questioning the parents but why leave so much unreported when there is a spotlight on the parents who seem like they are indeed innocent?

Why would they offer just a plea to the mother?

Or is the media trying to fill the gaps because there are elements of Portuguese law that prevent the police from talking about the case?

I can answer "why leave so much unreported?": Stupid Portuguese law

Which tabloid have you been following this oh so 'newsworthy' story in?

How would you explain the blood if the girl had been sedated and there was therefore no struggle?

erm..... I can think of a way thats more than a little abominable, if prurient.

And how would you explain the sightings of her, including a number of them in close locations in the same country?

Small children can be easily mistaken, especially when one is inclined to see a certain child, and I'm willing to bet the "sightings" were glimpses at best.

How would you explain the blood if the girl had been sedated and there was therefore no struggle?

And how would you explain the sightings of her, including a number of them in close locations in the same country?

1. the kid was badly hurt and writhing in pain so they sedated her to calme her down. possibly. anyway where are you getting that they sedated her? the beeb says nothing of that.

2. overactive imaginations of people wanting to help/all little blonde kids look the same..

I can answer "why leave so much unreported?": Stupid Portuguese law

maybe because they don't want the media knowing what they know. Just because it might hinder the investigation?

so the media fills in with crackpot theories and half truths

So it actually suits bot sides

they've simply been named as formal suspects, or "arguidos", which means that while they are not arrested they have legal restrictions on their freedom of moment, i.e. they aren't allowed to leave the country. i don't know if there is an direct equivalent in the law in this country but i would imagine there is something similar.

House Arrest in UK. But that's basically: "We (government) don't like you so we're gonna claim you're a terrorist. If we take you to court and you get found not guilty, we're gonna do this (but we might do it anyway): Put serious restrictions on your movements and make you contact the cops every day through a phoneline that doesn't work properly - each time you fail to call, the cops will be round at your house. You'll also be made to wear ankle tags. And we won't let you contact certain people, and they'll be serious restrictions on the people you can contact. And just for the hell of it, we might also force you to go no further than the ends of a few streets. Basically we're gonna lock you up in your own house. With no evidence. Even no trial if we don't feel like having one. But it's O.K. cus the Terrorism Act says so. Have a nice day and fuck you"

How would you explain the blood if the girl had been sedated and there was therefore no struggle?

And how would you explain the sightings of her, including a number of them in close locations in the same country?If it's her blood, and they're certain, then that's a pretty damn big cause for concern. In fact, aside from coincidence striking and the car having been previously used by the 'real' kidnapper, it's fairly damning evidence. Sedation's got sod all to do with that. Sightings are explained as easily as the sightings of those two girls a while back - they weren't true.
As the British police said (in much nicer terms): The Portuguese police fucked the case up from the start.
Wow. Pot, kettle...

Damnit, I hate that they're on the news all the time but my love of crime fiction's drawing me in...:(

Damnit, I hate that they're on the news all the time but my love of crime fiction's drawing me in...:(

yeh, that's what's got to me too. i'd never read anything about the story until it was announced that the mother was being brought in for questioning.

2. overactive imaginations of people wanting to help/all little blonde kids look the same..

But this kid has a distinctive right eye

Which tabloid have you been following this oh so 'newsworthy' story in?

It's in several papers, including the Daily Express.

It's in several papers, including the Daily Express.
That was in no way predictable.

EDIT: And it's an eye, man, not a huge, obiviously disfiguring growth spouting from between her eyes. Have you seen it? It's barely noticeable.

what they ^ said.

It's in several papers, including the Daily Express.

It was good to see that they put dianas death aside so the mcanns can be on the front page wasn't it

But this kid has a distinctive right eye

Yes, because you would be able to tell if the girl was down the street from you, or just walked past you.

"Excuse me, ma'am, but can I stare into your little girl's eyes?"

It's in several papers, including the Daily Express.

Essentially every major/respectable/trustworthy news source in the UK is carrying it as their main news.

Well since people seem to think (which is at least partly true if not fully) that the media is basically making up a load of shit:

The Thingamajig News
09 Sept. 2007
Britain's most nonexistent newspaper

ROBERT MURAT GUILTY

Portuguese police now believe Robert Murat played a part in the abduction of Madeleine McCann. It has also emerged that the police claimed the McCanns were suspects in order to hide their secret search for evidence on Murat.

The police strongly believe that Murat helped to abduct the child but was not the sole abductor. A source told us: "They [the police] are sure Murat had something to do with it. There's lots of evidence, not least his behaviour around the apartment where the girl was abducted. But he had an accomplice."

The police have recently been gathering evidence and are currently searching for that accomplice. They also believe a third person, possibly female, may be involved. In order to hide and extensive search for evidence, the Police claimed that the McCanns were suspects. The police are now extremely close to finding the abductor and are sure they will find Madeleine alive.

It was good to see that they put dianas death aside so the mcanns can be on the front page wasn't it

Her Royal Highness Princess Diana died years ago. My personal belief, considering the kind of person Diana was (and is as I believe her spirit is still alive) is that she'd prefer people to quit mourning her and go around the world helping people instead.

Are you OK?

my first thought would be no

Well since people seem to think (which is at least partly true if not fully) that the media is basically making up a load of shit:

The Thingamajig News
09 Sept. 2007
Britain's most nonexistent newspaper

ROBERT MURAT GUILTY

Portuguese police now believe Robert Murat played a part in the abduction of Madeleine McCann. It has also emerged that the police claimed the McCanns were suspects in order to hide their secret search for evidence on Murat.

The police strongly believe that Murat helped to abduct the child but was not the sole abductor. A source told us: "They [the police] are sure Murat had something to do with it. There's lots of evidence, not least his behaviour around the apartment where the girl was abducted. But he had an accomplice."

The police have recently been gathering evidence and are currently searching for that accomplice. They also believe a third person, possibly female, may be involved. In order to hide and extensive search for evidence, the Police claimed that the McCanns were suspects. The police are now extremely close to finding the abductor and are sure they will find Madeleine alive.

Are you OK?

Are you OK?

I'm fine. Thanks for asking.

I'm fine. Thanks for asking.

I only ask because it seems as though you may have lost it a bit.

I only ask because it seems as though you may have lost it a bit.

Thanks for asking.

Well the media haven't been clutching at straws for the past 120 odd days?

This is another sensationalisation because the media cannot get anything else from the portugese police

I also find it disgusting how this case has dominated the media as it has with barely any factual base
Maybe I'm just a silly American, but I haven't heard a thing about this until now.

What's going on here? What allegedly happened to who?

Maybe I'm just a silly American, but I haven't heard a thing about this until now.

What's going on here? What allegedly happened to who?

A little aryan girl went missing in lands foreign three months ago, thus providing the Dailys Express and Mail with enough wet dream material to see their respective editorial staffs through to retirement.

A little aryan girl went missing in lands foreign three months ago, thus providing the Dailys Express and Mail with enough wet dream material to see their respective editorial staffs through to retirement.

And I'm guessing these parents are accused of having murdered her? Or was she allegedly kidnapped?

Maybe I'm just a silly American, but I haven't heard a thing about this until now.

What's going on here? What allegedly happened to who?

bugger all really in the great scheme of things. but pics of cute kids gone missing sells papers so this is what we put up with, endless headlines about what the parents had for dinner and uncritical sheep gnashing their teeth over something that doesn't concern them in the lightest.

And I'm guessing these parents are accused of having murdered her? Or was she allegedly kidnapped?

Depends who you ask.

bugger all really in the great scheme of things. but pics of cute kids gone missing sells papers so this is what we put up with, endless headlines about what the parents had for dinner and uncritical sheep gnashing their teeth over something that doesn't concern them in the lightest.

Depends who you ask.

Oh, well, okay then. Just seemed like there was more to it.

And I suppose I shall now shed a tear for the missing girl, then move on my way. Plenty of young girls go missing and are murdered every day, and we probably shouldn't mourn any specific one very much unless that specific one has connections to us in some manner.

Maybe I'm just a silly American, but I haven't heard a thing about this until now.

What's going on here? What allegedly happened to who?

the British version of Jon Bonet Ramsey... except there is no body, it happened on vacation, the parents left the child(ren) alone while they ate dinner.

Even if the Portuguese police found her body, directly linked her murder to her parents unequivably, and obtained a full confession, people in Britain will still claim they were set up.

Why? Because they've invested so much time, effort and money (huge quantities of it) into a wild goose chase, thinking they were helping people who would ultimately be the cause.

Personally I think she's long since dead, and that the parents probably know things and aren't letting on.

Who cares. There are more important things than missing little white girls and dead opera singers.

Who cares. There are more important things than missing little white girls and dead opera singers.
Pavarotti was a figure famous for his immense talent, at least.

Anyway, to draw myself back in, Portuguese police claim to have a full DNA match on the blood in the car being Madeleine's. I hate myself for reposting this but that 3 letter acronym gets me every time :(

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Pavarotti was a figure famous for his immense talent, at least.

Anyway, to draw myself back in, Portuguese police claim to have a full DNA match on the blood in the car being Madeleine's. I hate myself for reposting this but that 3 letter acronym gets me every time :(

so did they investigate the car rental place and the previous renter of that automobile?

After the trail started going cold I started to suspect the parents. To me they seem to be hiding something. In interviews they do they seem so...unfeeling. I see very little emotion when they conduct an interview. They visited the Pope about this and stuff. If this was my child there would be nothing on Earth stopping me searching everywhere for them. I'd get the word out sure but I wouldn't keep giving interviews I'd been out there with all the search teams and continue searching long after they gave up if that should happen.

After the trail started going cold I started to suspect the parents. To me they seem to be hiding something. In interviews they do they seem so...unfeeling. I see very little emotion when they conduct an interview. They visited the Pope about this and stuff. If this was my child there would be nothing on Earth stopping me searching everywhere for them. I'd get the word out sure but I wouldn't keep giving interviews I'd been out there with all the search teams and continue searching long after they gave up if that should happen.

Interviews keep the case in the spotlight which keeps up the likelihood of your child being recognised. Seems sensible enough to me

Interviews keep the case in the spotlight which keeps up the likelihood of your child being recognised. Seems sensible enough to me

Yeah but the amount of interviews they are giving are some of the most I've seen. I'd give some interviews, put it out there, get my own posters up and go carry on my own investigation as well as acepting help if it was offered. The police would obviously be a involved heavily but I could not sit around all day while my child was out there somewhere.

The McCanns seem like they're giving up or (my more cynical view) thinking they've almost got away with it.

Yeah but the amount of interviews they are giving are some of the most I've seen. I'd give some interviews, put it out there, get my own posters up and go carry on my own investigation as well as acepting help if it was offered. The police would obviously be a involved heavily but I could not sit around all day while my child was out there somewhere.

The McCanns seem like they're giving up or (my more cynical view) thinking they've almost got away with it.

What exactly would you be investigating? What skills would you as a parent have to bring to such an investigation?

For most people they wouldn't be able to contribute more than is already in place. They are most effective however when it comes to highlighting the case in the media. The media would much rather talk to the parents than an anonymous official

What exactly would you be investigating? What skills would you as a parent have to bring to such an investigation?

For most people they wouldn't be able to contribute more than is already in place. They are most effective however when it comes to highlighting the case in the media. The media would much rather talk to the parents than an anonymous official

I don't know what I could bring but I'd help as police investigated and if more lines of enquiry came open I'd follow them myself. I'd meet with witnesses,put together my own notes. I knowI couldn't do more than the police but
i'd as much as possible.

I don't know what I could bring but I'd help as police investigated

Help how? More than likely you'd simply get in the way.

and if more lines of enquiry came open I'd follow them myself. I'd meet with witnesses,put together my own notes. I knowI couldn't do more than the police but
i'd as much as possible.

Seems like there would be a bit of a conflict of interest in having you meeting up with witnesses

Help how? More than likely you'd simply get in the way.



Seems like there would be a bit of a conflict of interest in having you meeting up with witnesses

It could be a conflict or it could help. You never know. Maybe I would get in the way or maybe not. It all depends on the situation and variables such as where the event occured, any suspects, should I or someone in the family have an enemy who would do this, the competence of the police force investigating the case etc.

All these factors would play a part in how involved I could be.

It could be a conflict or it could help. You never know.

Lets not forget the chance of bringing a strong case to court. How strong will a case be if you were involved with the witnesses and potentially biased them?

Lets not forget the chance of bringing a strong case to court. How strong will a case be if you were involved with the witnesses and potentially biased them?

This depends on the level of involvement. A couple of questions maybe very little. A few hours then some bias. Constantly bugging them, completly biased. Then again there may always be some bias in the case.

She’s obviously fallen down the back of the sofa, and nobody’s bothered to check.

Elementary, my dear Watson.

How else would you explain finding her blood in a car that they didn't hire until 25 days after she disappeared?

The analysis of the blood was done in Britain, the scientist have stated that there was not enough blood to be able to identify more than that it came from them (the family), not necessarily from the little girl.

Yea, they are so arrested that they even managed to get to Britain :P

And the Police didn't accused no one of sedating anyone, that was the press doing.

PS: Yes, the media is harrassing the parents, but they can't really expect the media to be like a button, switched on when they wanted protagonism, switched off when they don't want it - A curious fact: Kate Maccan phoned Sky news first, the Police after, reporting Maddie's dissapearance.

PPS: I am Portuguese, I am damn proud of my Police force, that manages to maintain us in the Top 10 of the most peaceful nations on earth. I have full confidence in their abilities to conduct a lawful investigation, according to OUR OWN LAW. This isn't Britain, and if some British seem to have a snobish tendency to think that everything should be done like in Britain, well though luck.

There is more than a touch of "Johnny Foriegner, making a mess of things" in the press coverage allright. Rather fucking ironic, considering what the Brit cops have got upto themselves.....

However - as we don't know precisely what evidence the cops have, comment on its validity or lack thereof is pointless and groundless. If they are charged it will come up in the trial.

As to their conduct after the dissappearnce - who knows? People do different things to cope. It could be that they just threw themselves into publicising the dissapearnce to avoid dealing with their grief, as much as any sisnister motive.

Unfortunately, in the last 2 to 3 weeks, there seems to be a stream of friends and family popping up pouring scorn on both police, investigative methods, and evidence. While these may be perfectly sincere, it does come across as a disinformation campaign - particularily when they refer back to what the mc canns themselves think/'feel'.

I can't say I'm surprised. I've been wondering why they didn't suspect the parents much sooner.

There was a similar case in my home town a few years back. A woman was shopping in the city, leaving her baby in the pram outside a shop for a few minutes. When she came back, the baby was gone. The police were informed, the whole town (it's a rather small quiet town with only 70 000 inhabitants) went searching for the baby, but it just couldn't be found. It took a while for the police to suspect the mother, but about 3 or 4 weeks after the incident they started to consider her suspect. It turned out that she had killed the baby days before and brought the body to the local garbage incinerator to dispose of it, and the whole "They stole my baby" was just an elaborate way to try and divert suspicion.

The case of the McCanns sounded eerily familiar when I first heard about it.

I'm sure I'm going to hell for it, but I kind of want it to have been the McCanns. Just to see the reaction of all the thousands of people who were falling over themselves to track down the poor kidnapped little blonde white girl.

Whether or not the girls parents killed her, they should be jailed for neglect!
They went out for a meal leaving her, the oldest of 3 kids in a house on their own in a strange town in a strange country! Who cares if it was only 2 minutes up the road, it may as well have been 20 miles.
An absolute disgrace and the parents, if innocent of murder, have no one to blame bar themselves.
I guess it makes it easier that it was Jonny foreigner who done it.
Beside one less ned girl to grow up, have 4 kids by the time she is 12 and burden the state, the better.

AMK
xxx