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I hope the "Arab" gets lynched for that.

A 42-year-old rabbi was stabbed in the stomach by an Arab on a Frankfurt street in what appeared to be a spontaneous attack, police said Saturday.

The rabbi, whose name was not disclosed, was walking with two other people when they encountered the assailant and two women, a police statement said.

The man, whom witnesses described as possibly Arab, spoke to the rabbi — who was wearing a Jewish head-covering — in what sounded like Arabic.

The rabbi didn't understand, and the man threatened in German to kill him, then stabbed him once, the statement said. The attacker fled and the women who were with him ran in different directions.

What makes you automatically assume it's antisemitism? I don't see anything in that unsourced (presumably an) article you've quoted that says it was motivated by anti-semitic impulses.

And even if it was, why do you take this one incident and veritably cry out, "OMG it's the Fourth Reich!"?

I hope the "Arab" gets lynched for that.

Well, I do not.

What I do hope however, is that the police catches him, and he gets in prison. (or, at least, that the Mossad finds him first...:cool:)

Classic overreacting by a Jew, one killing that apparently happened to be an Arab and it's suddenly the start of mass anti-semitism :rolleyes:

Arabs are semetic. For this to be anti-semetic, the man would have to hate himself.

It's common practice for people to attach things called "links" to a post. A recent innovation, these "links" direct readers to "sources", and are a great step forward.

What makes you automatically assume it's antisemitism? .

Oh... must be my mistake. It's probably because he loves Jews so much that he wants to get closer to the Rabbi, and accidently had a knife in his hand...


And even if it was, why do you take this one incident and veritably cry out, "OMG it's the Fourth Reich!"?

I didn't cry THAT out. What I did mean is that in Germany of all places - antisemitic events are naturally more sensitive and should be treated quickly.

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Oh... must be my mistake. It's probably because he loves Jews so much that he wants to get closer to the Rabbi, and accidently had a knife in his hand...


Yep, your mistake. Not every crime is a hate crime. If I kill a black man, am I a racist? If I kill a woman, am I a misogynist? If I kill a gay man, am I a homophobe? If I kill a big-eared bushy-eyebrowed black-haired 5-foot tall bisexual biker, does that mean I hate all big-eared bushy-eyebrowed black-haired 5-foot tall bisexual bikers?

I didn't cry THAT out. What I did mean is that in Germany of all places - antisemitic events are naturally more sensitive and should be treated quickly.

You said "antisemitism in Germany - Again???" Well, what "again?" You mean "still." There is antisemitism everywhere. But you've yet to show that this case is a case of antisemitism at all and I think by "again" you are referring back to the Third Reich and mass persecution of the Jews and other minorities.

Yep, your mistake. Not every crime is a hate crime. If I kill a black man, am I a racist? If I kill a woman, am I a misogynist? If I kill a gay man, am I a homophobe? If I kill a big-eared bushy-eyebrowed black-haired 5-foot tall bisexual biker, does that mean I hate all big-eared bushy-eyebrowed black-haired 5-foot tall bisexual bikers?



OK, let make a bet.
When the police finds him, if it's not a hate-crime, I'll never write in the forums again. If it is - then you don't write. agreed???

Arabs are semetic. For this to be anti-semetic, the man would have to hate himself.

Didn't you know, Jews have a copywrite on the term 'Semetic'. The Anti-Defamation League is going to sue you for suggesting sub-human Arabs can be victims of anti-semetism.

Arabs are semetic. For this to be anti-semetic, the man would have to hate himself.

From Wikipedia's definition of antisemitism:

Antisemitism (alternatively spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is discrimination, hostility or prejudice directed at Jews. While the term's etymology may imply that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic peoples, it is in practice used exclusively to refer to hostility towards Jews as a religious, racial, or ethnic group.


So, your comment is not really as smart as it sounds...

"Antisemitic attack happens in Germany, OMFG 4th REICH, CONCENTRATION CAMPS TO RE-OPEN, JEWS, FLEE NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE, Merkel to change title to Führerin usw. usw."

Did the rabbi survive? Link?

If he was a real rabbi he would have pwnd the arab with jew-jitsu

From Wikipedia's definition of antisemitism:




So, your comment is not really as smart as it sounds...
Because we all know that Wiki is infalliable.

The fact still stands: anti-semitism can be and is used to classify attitudes against both Jews and Arabs. Both are Semetic people. To suggest otherwise is to suggest that "Scandinavian" only refers to people from Norway, but not Denmark, Sweden, and Finland.

Granted, I'm arguing against someone who didn't even link to his article, even tho several posters have requested it, as well as assuming it was a hate crime, and ignores the fact that his own quoted portions state
The man, whom witnesses described as possibly Arabnot that he is definatly Arab, and in what sounded like Arabic.not that he definatly spoke Arabic. Guess what? Hebrew sounds alot like Arabic. And not only Arabs are capable of speaking Arabic.

From Wikipedia's definition of antisemitism:




So, your comment is not really as smart as it sounds...

Your definition just says that "in practice." So it's a circular argument you've got here... anti-semitism only refers to Jewish semites and not any other kind, because... because people who use the term only refer to Jewish semites and any other kind!

Your comments aren't exactly bordering on genius here.

Didn't you know, Jews have a copywrite on the term 'Semetic'. The Anti-Defamation League is going to sue you for suggesting sub-human Arabs can be victims of anti-semetism.

Don't be so childish, the fact that Arabs are also Semites does not change the fact that anti-Semitism only refers to hatred of Jews. To quote the Oxford English Dictionary:

anti-Semitism n. hostility to or prejudice against Jews

The origin of words is not always a sound guide to their meaning: are all 'thugs' necessarily murderous followers of Shiva? Are all 'zealots Jewish? Are all 'assassins' Ismaeli Muslims? Do all 'henchmen' look after horses?

There's already a word for anti-Arab prejudice: racism.

Because we all know that Wiki is infalliable.

The Oxford English Dictionary is, however, usually seen as the leading authority...

Because we all know that Wiki is infalliable.

The fact still stands: anti-semitism can be and is used to classify attitudes against both Jews and Arabs. Both are Semetic people. To suggest otherwise is to suggest that "Scandinavian" only refers to people from Norway, but not Denmark, Sweden, and Finland.

Still not a smart remark.

It's not just Wiki. Show me a dictionary that defines anti-semitism as includes hatred against Arabs.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1T4IBMA_en___IL213&pwst=1&defl=en&q=define:Antisemitism&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

Five different definitions. All define it as hatred towards Jews.


Granted, I'm arguing against someone who didn't even link to his article, even tho several posters have requested it


There are many links. for example:

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/104415.html

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1188392566442&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/902075.html


ignores the fact that his own quoted portions state
not that he is definatly Arab, and not that he definatly spoke Arabic. Guess what? Hebrew sounds alot like Arabic. And not only Arabs are capable of speaking Arabic.

Really? Every Rabbi can distinguish between Hebrew and Arabic.

Again - not a smart remark.

Because we all know that Wiki is infalliable.

The fact still stands: anti-semitism can be and is used to classify attitudes against both Jews and Arabs. Both are Semetic people. To suggest otherwise is to suggest that "Scandinavian" only refers to people from Norway, but not Denmark, Sweden, and Finland.

No it can't. Anti-Semitism only refers to anti-Jewish hatred and discriminations; hatred and discrimination against Arabs is referred to as 'racism' or if you prefer 'anti-Arabism'.

Is there any suggestion that the attack was actually motivated by anti-semitism? Not only would arabs be considered as semitic as Jews, but surely a Jew can be stabbed for reasons other than being Jewish?:confused:

Is there any suggestion that the attack was actually motivated by anti-semitism?

We don't know, the OP hasn't actually linked to the article yet.

You said "antisemitism in Germany - Again???" Well, what "again?" You mean "still." There is antisemitism everywhere. But you've yet to show that this case is a case of antisemitism at all and I think by "again" you are referring back to the Third Reich and mass persecution of the Jews and other minorities.

When did you become telepathic? Because if you are... I need to run away before you find the file marked 'Miejer penny pony ride.'

We don't know, the OP hasn't actually linked to the article yet.

To be fair, he's linked to things. Jolt just decided to catch the post in it's spam filter.

To be fair, he's linked to things. Jolt just decided to catch the post in it's spam filter.

Ah, fair enough. I take back the implicit criticism.

EDIT: and it seems I missed some links from a later post of his, mea culpa

Still not a smart remark.

It's not just Wiki. Show me a dictionary that defines anti-semitism as includes hatred against Arabs.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1T4IBMA_en___IL213&pwst=1&defl=en&q=define:Antisemitism&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

Five different definitions. All define it as hatred towards Jews.

I'm not bothering to log into my school account to get to the OED for an argument over semantics, so sure. You can have this one.


There are many links. for example:

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/104415.html

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1188392566442&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/902075.html


Retracted given HotRodia's post


Really? Every Rabbi can distinguish between Hebrew and Arabic.

Again - not a smart remark
And yet, according to the lines you posted, the rabbi did not say he spoke Arabic:
The man, whom witnesses described as possibly Arab, spoke to the rabbi — who was wearing a Jewish head-covering — in what sounded like Arabic.
Witnesses claimed it was Arabic. Not the Rabbi.

"Antisemitic attack happens in Germany, OMFG 4th REICH, CONCENTRATION CAMPS TO RE-OPEN, JEWS, FLEE NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE, Merkel to change title to Führerin usw. usw."

:D

Run to the hills, screaming like a ba-by! [/Iron Maiden]

To be fair, he's linked to things. Jolt just decided to catch the post in it's spam filter.

Many thanks for this comment!

Because we all know that Wiki is infalliable.

The fact still stands: anti-semitism can be and is used to classify attitudes against both Jews and Arabs. Both are Semetic people. To suggest otherwise is to suggest that "Scandinavian" only refers to people from Norway, but not Denmark, Sweden, and Finland.'Anti-Semitism' as a term referring to hatred of Jews (And the results thereof) has developed in Europe, where there were plenty of Jews, but very few Arabs, thus a lack of semitic people other than Jews, which in turn explains the exclusive use of the term - which, AFAIK, wasn't coined by Jews.

It is a case rather similar to, lets say, the United States of America - the term is generally considered to refer to a specific nationstate located on the North-American continent, despite the American landmass (North- and South America combined) containing quite a few other states - which I suppose could lead retarded gits who choose to completely ignore the actual point of a given discussion in order to show off their (Imagined) 'Intellectual' side to argue that 'The United States of America' is really referring to the entirety of nations on the double-continent, thereby annoying every even vaguely sane person in a given discussion while making asses out of themselves and derailing every potentially productive point that could be raised.

But of course, you're totally not that kind of delusional retard, are you?

A .....directions.

What point are you trying to make with your title? That because an Arab may have committed an act based on anti-semtic beliefs, the German population at large are even now tugging on the jackboots and getting ready for a bit of torchlit mayhem?

What point are you trying to make with your title? That because an Arab may have committed an act based on anti-semtic beliefs, the German population at large are even now tugging on the jackboots and getting ready for a bit of torchlit mayhem?
"Kristalnacht Zwei : Diese Time, Itz Mehr Of Eine Zurprize"

"Kristalnacht Zwei : Diese Time, Itz Mehr Of Eine Zurprize"

Ja!!!Mit DER TECHNO-FEST!!!!!!!!

Is there any suggestion that the attack was actually motivated by anti-semitism? Not only would arabs be considered as semitic as Jews, ...the word anti-semitism means hatred against jews exclusively. that Arabs are semitic as well has nothing to with the word (today).

....but surely a Jew can be stabbed for reasons other than being Jewish?:confused:Not if he was a Rabbi stabbed by an Arab.

Not if he was a Rabbi stabbed by an Arab.

You're generalizing about Rabbis or Arabs. I'm not really sure which (maybe both?)

Not if he was a Rabbi stabbed by an Arab.Maybe the Rabbi sold him a dodgy used car.

Maybe the Rabbi sold him a dodgy used car.Rabbis don't sell cars in Frankfurt. They sell false history :rolleyes:

Arabs are semetic. For this to be anti-semetic, the man would have to hate himself.

I agree; "anti-semitism" is too broad of a term. Semites are a larger ethnic group than just Jews.

If he was a real rabbi he would have pwnd the arab with jew-jitsu

Jew-jitsu?! That's the coolest marital art I have ever heard of in my life.:cool:

I agree; "anti-semitism" is too broad of a term. Semites are a larger ethnic group than just Jews.No, "anti-semitism" only refers to Jews. The word is no longer connected to Semites as a whole (which wouldn't include Jews anyways, since most Semites are not Jews and most Jews are not Semites).

A 42-year-old rabbi was stabbed in the stomach by an Arab on a Frankfurt street in what appeared to be a spontaneous attack, police said Saturday.

The rabbi, whose name was not disclosed, was walking with two other people when they encountered the assailant and two women, a police statement said.

The man, whom witnesses described as possibly Arab, spoke to the rabbi — who was wearing a Jewish head-covering — in what sounded like Arabic.

The rabbi didn't understand, and the man threatened in German to kill him, then stabbed him once, the statement said. The attacker fled and the women who were with him ran in different directions.

Your post is racist.

Well it's obvious the Rabbi was spreading aids amongst the population.

Well it's obvious the Rabbi was spreading aids amongst the population.one cannot spread a syndrome :rolleyes:

Well it's obvious the Rabbi was spreading aids amongst the population.
Yup, he was but a pawn in the Global Zionist Conspiracy.

EDIT: And UB, you can if you spread its cause :p

Yup, he was but a pawn in the Global Zionist Conspiracy.Worse. He is a Rabbi.

You know, the really sad thing about all this is that a bunch of Indians getting beaten half-to-death by a whole mob of people, watched by half a town in Eastern Germany no more than two weeks ago didn't warrant a thread, but this apparently does.

If he was a real rabbi he would have pwnd the arab with jew-jitsu

:D

You know, the really sad thing about all this is that a bunch of Indians getting beaten half-to-death by a whole mob of people, watched by half a town in Eastern Germany no more than two weeks ago didn't warrant a thread, but this apparently does.What kind of thread would you expect then? Anti-indianism in Germany - Again???

The fact still stands: anti-semitism can be and is used to classify attitudes against both Jews and Arabs. Both are Semetic people. To suggest otherwise is to suggest that "Scandinavian" only refers to people from Norway, but not Denmark, Sweden, and Finland.

Finland isn't part of Scandinavia. If we're going to nitpick, we might as well go all the way.

This kinda anti-social crap would have never happened in the DDR.

This kinda anti-social crap would have never happened in the DDR.

O RLY?

Communist East Germany officially took pride in its "anti-fascism" yet party youth members used Nazi salutes, the Holocaust was virtually ignored and Jewish cemeteries were flattened to make way for car parks.

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2444455.ece

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7stMzAdkzw

Antisemitism at it's worst!

This kinda anti-social crap would have never happened in the DDR.Very funny. :rolleyes:

I see the usual crew of Jew-haters and Arab-loathers are all coming out to play....

This kinda anti-social crap would have never happened in the DDR.
*Nods*

The DDR had to build a concrete guarded wall to prevent people leaving and telling everybody what a nice place it was, remember?

*Nods*

The DDR had to build a concrete guarded wall to prevent people leaving and telling everybody what a nice place it was, remember?building a
wall? doesn't that remind me of something...

You know, the really sad thing about all this is that a bunch of Indians getting beaten half-to-death by a whole mob of people, watched by half a town in Eastern Germany no more than two weeks ago didn't warrant a thread, but this apparently does.
Gastarbeiter = fair game
Jews = OH NOES THE HOLOCAUST ZWEI

This kinda anti-social crap would have never happened in the DDR.
...

Erm, no.
building a
wall? doesn't that remind me of something...
Land der Arbeiter und Bauern?

Land der Arbeiter und Bauern?No, rather something like this (http://www.newspagedesigner.com/users/4026/israelwall.jpg)...

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a253/tbirdofparadise/israel_wall_tower_2.jpg

No, rather something like this (http://www.newspagedesigner.com/users/4026/israelwall.jpg)...
Right. Well the DDR and indeed China, as well as the English (erm Romanised English, anyway) totally got there first, to be honest.

Right. Well the DDR and indeed China, as well as the English (erm Romanised English, anyway) totally got there first, to be honest.But who is doing it now?

But who is doing it now?
Israel, the Iraq and North Korea?

Oh, sorry, I mean "just Israel, they are evil Jews who wish to destroy us all". Yes. That would placate you.

Israel, the Iraq and North Korea?

Oh, sorry, I mean "just Israel, they are evil Jews who wish to destroy us all". Yes. That would placate you.

Let's not forget the planned 700+ mile wall on the Mexican border.

Let's not forget the planned 700+ mile wall on the Mexican border.

Which has the capacity to become the first white elephant visible from space, I think....

Which has the capacity to become the first white elephant visible from space, I think....white elephant like this?
http://www.inspectorlohmann.com/images/blog/politics/repElephant.jpg