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I think I may be the first American...

Sel Appa
08-09-2007, 19:10
...that can detect a slight difference between the Australian and British (RP) accents. After watch a dozen or two The Chaser videos on YouTube, it seems that there actually is a difference, but I can't really describe it. Or maybe I'm just hallucinating...

On a related note, that show is awesome...and I want to buy the DVDs. :)
IL Ruffino
08-09-2007, 19:14
They're entirely different..
Agerias
08-09-2007, 19:15
They are very different, and I'm American and I've never been to Australia or the UK.

Stop playing off of stereotypes about Americans being uninformed to make you seem unique, plz kthx.
Newer Burmecia
08-09-2007, 19:15
WTF? They're completely different. Hell, British accents are completely different to each other.
Forlorn Phoenix
08-09-2007, 19:15
What Ruffy said, I dont believe most Americans ever had a problem distinguishing the two. :confused:
Johnny B Goode
08-09-2007, 19:16
They are very different, and I'm American and I've never been to Australia or the UK.

Stop playing off of stereotypes about Americans being uninformed to make you seem unique, plz kthx.

Indeed.
New new nebraska
08-09-2007, 19:20
How couldn't you tell the difference.And yes I'm American.
Imperial isa
08-09-2007, 19:29
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The KAT Administration
08-09-2007, 19:34
Wow. How undated are you?

AUS and UK accents are entirely different.

I have never been to the UK, but have had voice chats with them, and I've been to AUS.

Okay. Wow. This is insane. I can't believe you were serious.
Poliwanacraca
08-09-2007, 19:35
Wow! Next you'll be claiming you can spot a difference in accents between people from Alabama and people from the Bronx! Or maybe people from Scotland and people from Canada! You must be so talented!
GreaterPacificNations
08-09-2007, 19:36
...that can detect a slight difference between the Australian and British (RP) accents. After watch a dozen or two The Chaser videos on YouTube, it seems that there actually is a difference, but I can't really describe it. Or maybe I'm just hallucinating...

On a related note, that show is awesome...and I want to buy the DVDs. :)
It's a bit of a joke here that Americans doing Australian accents simply pull a slow cockney with 'g'day' in it.
Nadkor
08-09-2007, 19:37
They're completely different...
Sel Appa
08-09-2007, 19:39
There must be some conspiracy because I have always thought that most people here couldn't tell the difference.
Librazia
08-09-2007, 19:42
I am Canadian and I can tell the difference between the various UK accents, and an Australian. They are radically different.
Greater Trostia
08-09-2007, 19:42
I can probably tell the difference. But I'm not sure I can be bothered to care.

The UK is just Proto-Neo-Nazi-Land now, and Australia Mini-Redneck-Proto-Neo-Nazi-Land.
Copiosa Scotia
08-09-2007, 19:44
This is a joke. Right?
Katganistan
08-09-2007, 19:47
...that can detect a slight difference between the Australian and British (RP) accents.

Are you serious? There's more than a 'slight difference' between RP and the Australian accents -- I worked with two Aussies (one from Melbourne, one from Adelaide) and watch British programming including BBC news.

Next you'll be thanking John Howard of AUSTRIA at the OPEC meeting.
GreaterPacificNations
08-09-2007, 20:03
I can probably tell the difference. But I'm not sure I can be bothered to care.

The UK is just Proto-Neo-Nazi-Land now, and Australia Mini-Redneck-Proto-Neo-Nazi-Land.Bahahahahahahahaha
Dinaverg
08-09-2007, 20:59
Oh c'mon. even if my only impression of the Australian accent was Steve Irwin (:(), I could totally tell.
Upper Botswavia
08-09-2007, 21:02
Errr... not the only American, no. There are huge differences between the accents. Just as there are noticable differences between Australian and New Zealand... and Irish and Welsh... and so on. Just because they are not OUR accents doesn't mean we Americans can't recognize them.
Marrakech II
08-09-2007, 21:06
This has to be one of the dumber threads I have seen in awhile.

The differences between Ozz and the UK are great. It is simple to tell the distinction. If one were to spend enough time in the UK there is a difference within the nation itself. There is the obvious Welsh and Scott accents but even within England itself there are regional differences.
Marrakech II
08-09-2007, 21:08
Are you serious?

Next you'll be thanking John Howard of AUSTRIA at the OPEC meeting.

You mean John Howard the King of Austria! :D
New Limacon
08-09-2007, 21:10
Australian and British accents are about as different as American and British accents, which makes sense.

I actually have something to add to the discussion though, besides repeating what's already been said many times. Does anyone know why they are different? The first permanent English settlement in the US was in 1607, even later for Australia (1788, I think). I realize American English has been affected by many other languages and people, same with Australian, but how would that affect the accents? If anyone has an answer (or even a pretty good idea), please post it.
Marrakech II
08-09-2007, 21:13
Australian and British accents are about as different as American and British accents, which makes sense.

I actually have something to add to the discussion though, besides repeating what's already been said many times. Does anyone know why they are different? The first permanent English settlement in the US was in 1607, even later for Australia (1788, I think). I realize American English has been affected by many other languages and people, same with Australian, but how would that affect the accents? If anyone has an answer (or even a pretty good idea), please post it.

The answer to your question would be where the people came from in the UK that set the tone for the accent of America and Australia. That would be my general guess.
Katganistan
08-09-2007, 21:19
You mean John Howard the King of Austria! :D

FINALLY! I thought no one would get the reference.
Dinaverg
08-09-2007, 21:25
Just as there are noticable differences between Australian and New Zealand... and Irish and Welsh...

Now now, let's not get carried away...
The Tribes Of Longton
08-09-2007, 21:28
FINALLY! I thought no one would get the reference.I think everyone's just become a bit numb to Bushisms by now.
Infinite Revolution
08-09-2007, 22:11
I think everyone's just become a bit numb to Bushisms by now.

whoa, did shrub really say Howard is the king of austria?!
The Tribes Of Longton
08-09-2007, 22:18
whoa, did shrub really say Howard is the king of austria?!
Nah, I don't think even he's that retarded.

Um.
Splintered Yootopia
08-09-2007, 23:01
Australian and British accents are about as different as American and British accents, which makes sense.

I actually have something to add to the discussion though, besides repeating what's already been said many times. Does anyone know why they are different? The first permanent English settlement in the US was in 1607, even later for Australia (1788, I think). I realize American English has been affected by many other languages and people, same with Australian, but how would that affect the accents? If anyone has an answer (or even a pretty good idea), please post it.
The same reason people of the Falklands usually sound like Orkadians (as in slightly odd, quite Cornish-y accents). Because that's what the people who live there now originally sounded a bit like.
Smunkeeville
08-09-2007, 23:06
There are people who don't know the difference between an Australian accent and a British accent?:confused:
Splintered Yootopia
08-09-2007, 23:08
There are people who don't know the difference between an Australian accent and a British accent?:confused:
Yeah. Usually they've lived their lives under pretty huge rocks, though.
Smunkeeville
08-09-2007, 23:32
Yeah. Usually they've lived their lives under pretty huge rocks, though.

oh, okay. I guess I haven't lived under said rock. I can pretty much tell the difference.

Sometimes I can tell the difference between British accents.....but not often, I guess I live under a rock of my own.
Sel Appa
08-09-2007, 23:49
Australian and British accents are about as different as American and British accents, which makes sense.
That's absolute carp. Australian and British accents sound VERY similar. Scottish sounds more different from British than Australian does

I actually have something to add to the discussion though, besides repeating what's already been said many times. Does anyone know why they are different? The first permanent English settlement in the US was in 1607, even later for Australia (1788, I think). I realize American English has been affected by many other languages and people, same with Australian, but how would that affect the accents? If anyone has an answer (or even a pretty good idea), please post it.

The US had more people and was more isolated, after the Revolution especially. Australia could be refreshed by Brits easily.

There are people who know the difference between an Australian accent and a British accent?:confused:

Fixed :p
Hydesland
08-09-2007, 23:58
That's absolute carp. Australian and British accents sound VERY similar. Scottish sounds more different from British than Australian does


Obviously not, as you are the ONLY person who actually things they sound the same. They don't even sound remotely the same. Oz very very slightly similar to possibly cockney accents, but only slightly.
Hydesland
08-09-2007, 23:59
The UK is just Proto-Neo-Nazi-Land now, and Australia Mini-Redneck-Proto-Neo-Nazi-Land.

Wtf?
Infinite Revolution
09-09-2007, 00:00
That's absolute carp. Australian and British accents sound VERY similar. Scottish sounds more different from British than Australian does



The US had more people and was more isolated, after the Revolution especially. Australia could be refreshed by Brits easily.



Fixed :p

i must enquire as to what this 'british' accent you keep referring to is.
Sel Appa
09-09-2007, 00:03
i must enquire as to what this 'british' accent you keep referring to is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_Pronunciation
Nadkor
09-09-2007, 00:05
i must enquire as to what this 'british' accent you keep referring to is.

That's what I keep wanting to ask, but can never actually be bothered.

There's no British accent.

Probably the widest category you can have is by city, or by region.

Even then, within cities there are great variations. I remember reading once that back in "the old days" in some areas of Belfast you could tell what street people were from through paying attention to their accent.

The variations throughout the UK are massive. My accent is as different from someone in Glasgow as the difference between someone in New York and in Melbourne.

Someone in Glasgow's accent is as different from someone from south London as someone in Alabama's is from someone in Johannesburg.
Infinite Revolution
09-09-2007, 00:06
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_Pronunciation

yeh, doesn't actually exist in britain except among those who went to finishing school.
Nadkor
09-09-2007, 00:08
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_Pronunciation

Except, of course, that more or less nobody actually speaks like that.
New Limacon
09-09-2007, 00:11
The same reason people of the Falklands usually sound like Orkadians (as in slightly odd, quite Cornish-y accents). Because that's what the people who live there now originally sounded a bit like.

So the US was settled by Britons who already sounded kind of American, and it just went on from there? That makes sense.
Hydesland
09-09-2007, 00:12
Except, of course, that more or less nobody actually speaks like that.

I wouldn't go that far, it's not as if the upper class doesn't exist in England any more.

In any case, of all the accents could sound less like the Australian accent, RP is by far the accent least like australian.
Hydesland
09-09-2007, 00:12
So the US was settled by Britons who already sounded kind of American, and it just went on from there? That makes sense.

You do realise that it wasn't just Britons that settled in the USA right?
Nadkor
09-09-2007, 00:18
I wouldn't go that far, it's not as if the upper class doesn't exist in England any more.

Well, like I said, more or less nobody...
Hydesland
09-09-2007, 00:18
Well, like I said, more or less nobody...

Depends where you live. For instance, where I live, I doubt I will ever come into contact with someone who speaks like that. But if I go to my grandmas village, every single person either speaks like a farmer or with an RP accent.
Adzze
09-09-2007, 00:20
It's a bit of a joke here that Americans doing Australian accents simply pull a slow cockney with 'g'day' in it.

Eeet's a beet of a joke hee that Americans doing Istraaah'an accents seemply pull a slow cockney with 'gidaiy' een eet.
Nadkor
09-09-2007, 00:23
Depends where you live. For instance, where I live, I doubt I will ever come into contact with someone who speaks like that. But if I go to my grandmas village, every single person either speaks like a farmer or with an RP accent.

Well, just as well, then, that "more or less nobody" leaves room for some.
Hydesland
09-09-2007, 00:23
Well, just as well, then, that "more or less nobody" leaves room for some.

I would have thought less then "some". More or less nobody indicates that the amount is so tiny it can be deemed irellavent. I disagree with this.
Nadkor
09-09-2007, 00:27
I would have thought less then "some". More or less nobody indicates that the amount is so tiny it can be deemed irellavent. I disagree with this.

Good for you.
New Limacon
09-09-2007, 00:27
You do realise that it wasn't just Britons that settled in the USA right?

Yes. However, if a majority of the people who settled here were British (or under English rule, at least), we would not speak English. And by the time there were many non-English immigrants, most of the people of the US were Anglo-Saxon.

The biggest exception are the Africans, who outnumbered the English in many places in the South. However, as slaves they had less of an impact than the people who came from England.

EDIT: I formerly had "not British" in the first line. It changes the meaning completely; sorry for any confusion.
New Limacon
09-09-2007, 00:34
There is a compilation of different accents here (http://accent.gmu.edu/browse_language.php?function=find&language=english).

EDIT: I will add another link, for a quiz to determine what accent the quiz taker has. Let me make this clear: it is a quiz on the World Wide Web. (If this does not mean anything to you, then I ask you to help a poor, Nigerian prince who needs help getting his vast fortune out of the country). But it seems pretty good, and is innocent enough. It is here (http://freeshells.ch/~xavier/accentmap/index.html).
Sel Appa
09-09-2007, 00:53
So the US was settled by Britons who already sounded kind of American, and it just went on from there? That makes sense.

No :headbang:

Except, of course, that more or less nobody actually speaks like that.

Fine Cockney.

Yes. However, if a majority of the people who settled here were not British (or under English rule, at least), we would not speak English. And by the time there were many non-English immigrants, most of the people of the US were Anglo-Saxon.

The biggest exception are the Africans, who outnumbered the English in many places in the South. However, as slaves they had less of an impact than the people who came from England.

Not if the English ran the government non-democratically...
The Tribes Of Longton
09-09-2007, 01:06
There is a compilation of different accents here (http://accent.gmu.edu/browse_language.php?function=find&language=english).
My accent should be somewhere between 129 and 194, yet I think I sound like neither :confused:
Nadkor
09-09-2007, 01:06
Fine Cockney.

What about it?
The Tribes Of Longton
09-09-2007, 01:07
What about it?
It's annoying and nobody speaks like that.

I hope.
New Granada
09-09-2007, 01:11
Stop the presses! Someone get the new york times on the phone, this is the story of the CENTURY.

Why next, that brilliant oracle, that Einstein of the modern age will reveal the answer to the question of the ages - what color *is* the sky?
Nadkor
09-09-2007, 01:15
Stop the presses! Someone get the new york times on the phone, this is the story of the CENTURY.

Why next, that brilliant oracle, that Einstein of the modern age will reveal the answer to the question of the ages - what color *is* the sky?

Well, that was certainly a worthwhile contribution.
The Tribes Of Longton
09-09-2007, 01:18
Well, that was certainly a worthwhile contribution.
As was that.

And this.

...

Damnit.
Nadkor
09-09-2007, 01:34
As was that.

And this.

...

Damnit.

Yeah, but at least we weren't going on about how pointless this thread is...
New Granada
09-09-2007, 01:56
Well, that was certainly a worthwhile contribution.

You're right, trying to make people feel ashamed, through mockery of bad and stupid behavior is always a worthwhile contribution.

If the OP never posted a thread like this again on its account, then it would be a contribution of immeasurable value, and certainly, at any rate, worth the try.
Sel Appa
09-09-2007, 02:25
I hereby request this thread be locked before I lose more respect.
The Tribes Of Longton
09-09-2007, 02:26
I hereby request this thread be locked before I lose more respect.
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Not possible.
Andaras Prime
09-09-2007, 02:30
...that can detect a slight difference between the Australian and British (RP) accents. After watch a dozen or two The Chaser videos on YouTube, it seems that there actually is a difference, but I can't really describe it. Or maybe I'm just hallucinating...

On a related note, that show is awesome...and I want to buy the DVDs. :)

That's offensive, we sound nothing like the bloody poms.
HotRodia
09-09-2007, 02:32
Locked, but not because of a loss of respect for the OP.

This thread is just pointless and in danger of provoking a flamefest, given the baiting.

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