NationStates Jolt Archive

Well,I felt like it.Which do you prefer to use for your needs.Not what you own or have at work or school but which do you prefer.A Macintosh iMAc,MAc Pro,Mac Mini,or Mac book with the most up to date operating enviorment and updates.Processor etc.VSYour average PC.Most up to date processor.With Windows Vista or XP.Lets take a look at the 'ol HP catolog here...lets say the HP Pavillion d49990y.Specs as Intel Core 2 Duo Processor,Vista Home Premium,ect,ect.

BTW:Don't say LInux.You can say LInux pwns both but I'm lookin' for second place in that case.

Now some linkys. A list of the Latest HP notebooks for sale (http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/store_access.do?template_type=landing&landing=notebooks&jumpid=re_R602_prodexp/hpcom/psg/notebooks)

and more under PC a list of shiny new Dell desktops (http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/desktops?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs)

Macs official website (http://www.apple.com/mac/)Its got the Apple ads and everything.

Now heres two anti-mac things I've found which I wanna share.*NOTE:It's just easier to find anti-Mac stuff.

A video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6553260189868317794)

And the site bluntly entilted..... http://www.mac-sucks.com/

And like the one serious anti-PC site I found on Google...this (http://www.macobserver.com/article/2000/08/01.11.shtml)

Now please comment,please.Don't let this be a dead poll.And no there is no Myrth option,I'm still not sure what myrth means.

I use a PC with windows at home and one with Linux at school.

I actually don't like the version of Linux that's on my temporary school computer, but that's because it's a really old version and the mozilla that's on it is shitty. When my supervisor gets my computer running it should be awesome though, he said something about it having a quad core and a terabyte of hard drive space... which seems like overkill to me, but it's his grant money so I'm not going to tell him he shouldn't spend it on a sweet machine.

And uh... yeah... I lost the point of the thread. As my friend I'm trying to talk to on msn might point out, Macs aren't so good for this since he keeps getting booted because the mac version isn't terribly stable. The lack of right clicking is also rather silly and I don't care for it. Plus you can't really build your own Mac like you can a PC and upgrading Macs seems to be a pain in the ass (if it's possible). Plus I don't like the idea of a monitor and computer in one since I've had monitors crap out on me long before the computer has crapped out.

For a laptop a Mac might not be so bad though.

Both.

Since I tend to use my desktop for gaming, I choose PCs every time. They're just vastly superior in all aspects for playing games. However, for a laptop, I'd definitely go for an Apple.

Off Topic -

Hah, Nebraska...great one...

PC's for the smple reason that one cannot tap twice to click on a mac laptop. That alone is enough for me to choose PC's, for all their faults

Worst. Advert. Ever.

when I was a kid my dad had a mac at work, I got to play some stupid game on it, that's basically my whole mac experience.

I have PC's, I run Windows XP on two of them and can also boot ubuntu, I have various forms of Linux on the other 3.

I like Linux because it's free and there are really great programs for it that I can use in homeschooling. I use Windows for when I am working in software that isn't available on Linux.

I don't really like Windows, unless I have PMS then I love Windows because any idiot can make it work, except when it locks up, then I hate it.

My husband has Vista on his portable now, he likes it, I hate it, I loathe change though, the new office suite is ugly and I can't find anything, thanks a lot Bill. :mad:

My husband has Vista on his portable now, he likes it, I hate it, I loathe change though, the new office suite is ugly and I can't find anything, thanks a lot Bill. :mad:

Yes, Office 2007 is rather crappy, I have it installed at work. The fat thing takes up 1.5GB of hard disk space and has a silly new interface. At home I use Vista because newer games don't run under 2000 and so I can have DirectX10. I use OpenOffice at home because I can't find my Office2000 CD and they're pretty much the same.

PC's for the smple reason that one cannot tap twice to click on a mac laptop. That alone is enough for me to choose PC's, for all their faults
Umm... yes you can, you just have to change the setting to allow for this sort of function. You can also set it to allow you to scroll through pages by moving your fingers along the pad. I know someone who had his mac laptop doing all this, it just doesn't come that way out of the box. Of course he also broke the OS and installed linux on the thing eventually, but that was mostly unrelated (it was related to his general trend of tampering with his computer).

Umm... yes you can, you just have to change the setting to allow for this sort of function. You can also set it to allow you to scroll through pages by moving your fingers along the pad. I know someone who had his mac laptop doing all this, it just doesn't come that way out of the box. Of course he also broke the OS and installed linux on the thing eventually, but that was mostly unrelated (it was related to his general trend of tampering with his computer).
Why would anyone take an OSX computer and install linux on it?

I've compiled just about every gnu tool that exists on my Mac. I have it running X-windows and the terminal window is my best friend.

And the best unix/linux front end ever is the Mac desktop...

I've only ever had PCs, but if I eventually get the chance to have a computer in my truck, I'll probably go with a Mac Mini and a 7" touchscreen (that, or take my older laptop and graft that in somehow).

I'm not gonna lie, Macs are nice if you can afford them. I would probably get a mac book if I had the money. Although PCs are not always as reliable and smooth running as a Mac, they are more versatile imo. I am quite happy with my PC and I will probably never blow more than a few hundred bucks on a computer so macs are not for me.

Why would anyone take an OSX computer and install linux on it?

I've compiled just about every gnu tool that exists on my Mac. I have it running X-windows and the terminal window is my best friend.

And the best unix/linux front end ever is the Mac desktop...

Isn't OSX Linux based? One of my friends is a computer programmer and she has both on her mac but unless you like to program in linux, its not really necessary to have on a mac.

I have a mac laptop that's really cool that I got for my birthday. I used to have an old dell PC, but I really prefer this.

For gaming, though, definitely a console or a PC.

Why would anyone take an OSX computer and install linux on it?

I've compiled just about every gnu tool that exists on my Mac. I have it running X-windows and the terminal window is my best friend.

And the best unix/linux front end ever is the Mac desktop...
Perhaps you missed the part where I said he broke OSX.

I'm not sure. Both have their weak points:

Macs are expensive and suffer from poor upgradability. While this also affects Windows too, not having dual clipboards pisses me off to no extreme (on Linux you can copy and paste by highlighting the text then middle clicking, and it won't affect what you copied [although copying something will affect what middle clicking pastes]). It sounds small, but it is sooooo nice to have. As far as evil goes, Jobs is somewhere in between Gates (less evil) and Ballmer (personification of evil). As awkward as it is at first, the Mighty Mouse isn't that bad, if still lacking buttons. However if you can afford a Mac, you can afford to get a proper mouse. Apple also pimps iLife like it isn't a bunch of bloatware that all the OEMs jam on Windows, but it is. All of it is junk that I would never use, but not having a registry, this is only a concern from a disk space standpoint. Having the menubar in the unmovable panel is just weird too. Also, for a OS tied so tightly to such a small hardware line, performance is bad. The exception is graphics work, but the switch to Intel has cut this somewhat (why do you think that Apple continued to use the use the PowerPC for the Power Mac for a year and a half after they switched the rest of their line to Intel?)


Windows PC's (btw I am using Vista in all examples as it is the least bad version of Windows). While this also affects OSX too, not having dual clipboards pisses me off to no extreme (on Linux you can copy and paste by highlighting the text then middle clicking, and it won't affect what you copied [although copying something will affect what middle clicking pastes]). It also has crappier effects than OSX (Filp 3D is shit compared to Expose or even Alt-Tab), and is the only desktop without multiple workspaces (or just Spaces (tm) as Apple decided to rename them). While Areo isn't quite as nice as Macs visual themes, MS at least used only one visual theme for everything instead of creating a desktop environment where visual styles are mish-mashed willy-nilly like Apple. However, once you step into the world of third party software, everything is visually incompatible with each other and it gives the OS an extremely amateurish look. Given PC cases that seems to be the latest trend and consumer PC's (HP, Dell, etc) still look like crap. OEM's load up PC with tons of useless garbage, but at least it can all be easily removed. Vista also provides little for out of the box functionality. I have yet to find a music player for it that I actually like. I've tried many, but I just haven't found something that can match Amarok or Exaile. At least OSX has an X11 layer, so I can run Amarok, on Vista I am screwed. Vista also lacks a bash-compatible shell which is a no-no for me.

So overall I am going to say Mac, as long as I don't have to pay for it. The X11 layer and Bash are the main reasons why I like it compared to Vista.

Isn't OSX Linux based? One of my friends is a computer programmer and she has both on her mac but unless you like to program in linux, its not really necessary to have on a mac.OSX(well its kernel, Darwin) is based on BSD and Mach (which is pretty shitty really). BSD is a UNIX, while Mach is the micro-kernel used by the Hurd project which aims to be UNIX compatible while using a micro-kernel.

Linux is a UNIX clone, and as such, it technically has little relation to BSD. So saying Darwin is based on Linux is just silly. OSX just inherits a Linux compatibility layer from BSD.

I just haven't found something that can match Amarok or Exaile.
Foobar2000 (http://www.foobar2000.org/).

Nothing even comes close.

The last Mac I used was System 7.1 on an Apple LCII.
I've never really used Mac OS 8 to 10 for any period of time but I have used every major version of Windows including Windows 2.0.

I play games, I buy PC.

Perhaps you missed the part where I said he broke OSX.
Actually, I remember reading it, so I must have ignored it.

Up until the point where Apple went with the Intel stuff, they did provide superior hardware to the Wintel clones, so i guess it would make sense to run Linux on a previously OSX Mac.

I'm used to PCs. Thus I like them.

Congratulations (http://rudezone.net/images/notThisShitAgain.gif)!

PC. I want to have total control of my hardware and software. I can't just go out and buy Mac hardware and put it together. I have to send $1200+ to Apple, then they send the whole machine with a pre-installed OS complete with the bloatware they claim not to be there. I could install Linux, but the sole advantage of a Mac over a PC is Mac OS being better than Windows. A Mac with a PowerPC processor would certainly be preferable over a PC, but those are gone now.

With a PC, I can go to some online store, order all of the parts, and have a system perfectly tailored to my needs sent to me. My last PC cost only $650, and performs reasonably well (excellently considering the price). I can install whatever OS I want on it, get zero bloatware, and have total control at a very low cost.

PC. I want to have total control of my hardware and software. I can't just go out and buy Mac hardware and put it together. I have to send $1200+ to Apple, then they send the whole machine with a pre-installed OS complete with the bloatware they claim not to be there. I could install Linux, but the sole advantage of a Mac over a PC is Mac OS being better than Windows. A Mac with a PowerPC processor would certainly be preferable over a PC, but those are gone now.

With a PC, I can go to some online store, order all of the parts, and have a system perfectly tailored to my needs sent to me. My last PC cost only $650, and performs reasonably well (excellently considering the price). I can install whatever OS I want on it, get zero bloatware, and have total control at a very low cost.

this i agree with... i like having total choice of hardware, software, OS, games, and peripherals with my PC.

Win XP does just fine for me... don't think i've had a system crash in pretty much as much as i can remember. only real irritation is that my new laptop won't hibernate for some reason - it just says "insufficient resources to complete API" and does bugger all. standby is ok though as a substitute.

Now please comment,please.Don't let this be a dead poll.And no there is no Myrth option,I'm still not sure what myrth means.
I use the one that tells me you need spaces between punctuation marks because, silly me, I often forget. Daft mistake really but that windows paperclip may have found someone to help here...

this i agree with... i like having total choice of hardware, software, OS, games, and peripherals with my PC.

Win XP does just fine for me... don't think i've had a system crash in pretty much as much as i can remember. only real irritation is that my new laptop won't hibernate for some reason - it just says "insufficient resources to complete API" and does bugger all. standby is ok though as a substitute.

Hibernate needs a certain amount of disk space to work. It could be that you don't have enough free space, or the space required is more than it's allowed to use.

I use a PC. Why?

I have always used PCs. PCs are what I am familiar with. I am quite comfortable using a PC. The reason I have always worked with PCs is probably because my parents worked for Microsoft (and my dad is about to resume working there), so another bonus is I can get Microsoft software cheap from the company store. In conclusion, PCs are best for me. If you are more familiar with Macs, use those.

And uh... yeah... I lost the point of the thread. As my friend I'm trying to talk to on msn might point out, Macs aren't so good for this since he keeps getting booted because the mac version isn't terribly stable.

Tell them to get Adium (http://adiumx.com/).

Oh, and I prefer Macs, myself. By quite a margin.

Foobar2000 (http://www.foobar2000.org/).

Nothing even comes close.I'll try to try it, but odds are that the next time I actually boot Vista, I will have completely forgotten about it.

As far as crashing is concerned, I've had my laptop with XP for three years, and in all that time I've had two crashes (three if you count the virus-embedded in a video I downloaded). One of them was related to a Morrowind binge overheating, the other was entirely inexplicable. In fact, I think the biggest issue I've had with it is one of my friends, in a drunken escapade ripped the W key off. No particular reason, just removed it for aesthetic purposes.

Hibernate needs a certain amount of disk space to work. It could be that you don't have enough free space, or the space required is more than it's allowed to use.

ah that could be it..... i have about 8 gigs free with 2 gigs of ram. iirc hibernation pretty much saves whats in your RAM to HD, so even if i was using 100% of my ram it should be ok in theory. but its not...

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4229/hibernateds6.jpg

arg!

Neither, if I wasn't so lazy. PC, because I am lazy.

I’ll try to try it, but odds are that the next time I actually boot Vista, I will have completely forgotten about it.
Try and remember, it’s well worth it.

Completely customisable media players don’t come along every day.

ah that could be it..... i have about 8 gigs free with 2 gigs of ram. iirc hibernation pretty much saves whats in your RAM to HD, so even if i was using 100% of my ram it should be ok in theory. but its not...

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4229/hibernateds6.jpg

arg!

In that case, your computer simply hates you. I suggest drop kicking it until you feel it is no longer a threat and buying a new and more obedient one.

In that case, your computer simply hates you. I suggest drop kicking it until you feel it is no longer a threat and buying a new and more obedient one.

or i'll switch to a mac! ;) :p

I use a PC with windows at home and one with Linux at school.

And uh... yeah... I lost the point of the thread. As my friend I'm trying to talk to on msn might point out, Macs aren't so good for this since he keeps getting booted because the mac version isn't terribly stable. The lack of right clicking is also rather silly and I don't care for it. Plus you can't really build your own Mac like you can a PC and upgrading Macs seems to be a pain in the ass (if it's possible). Plus I don't like the idea of a monitor and computer in one since I've had monitors crap out on me long before the computer has crapped out.edit: No right click isn't a problem for Macs. Either alt/cmd click (whatever it is), or buy a mouse with a right click and there you have a right click. Apple even supplies right click mice with their computers now. My sister's Mac came with one. Whilst there is no 'visible button', if you click on the left you get a left click and click on the right to get a right click. It's pretty cool.

Me and my flatmate both had XP give up on die on us at pretty much the same time. It all started with an I/O conflict with the mouse and keyboard and somehow when downhill from there.

Anyway, both us now run XP, Vista and Linux on our computers. He uses SUSE and I use Ubuntu.

I'll be using Linux to work on so I can't be tempted by the myriad of games I have, XP for current gaming, and Vista for the future.

So far I've no complaints with Ubuntu.

It would be interesting to get a Mac and dual boot with OSX and Windows Vista. I've heard a lot about both OSes and would like to try using them myself. But once the novelty wears off I'd probably install Linux, use that most of the time again and feel stupid for wasting money on an expensive Mac plus an expensive plastic disk with Vista on it.

So I'll save a heap of money by building a PC and putting Linux on it. But being cheap won't satisfy my curiosity about OSX and Vista. :(

I tend to like having control over my hardware so I get PC.

I tend to like having control over my hardware so I get PC.
You don't control your hardware, your hardware is controlling you.

You don't control your hardware, your hardware is controlling you.Dude, there was totally room for an "In Soviet Russia..." joke there. You've changed, man.

There are already enough people violating Yakov Smirnoff's corpse (he is dead, right?) as it is, and I'm feeling more philosophical today.
You've definitely changed - the old Fiddles would positively relish the opportunity to get jiggy with a dead guy for fun and profit :(

Dude, there was totally room for an "In Soviet Russia..." joke there. You've changed, man.
There are already enough people violating Yakov Smirnoff's corpse (he is dead, right?) as it is, and I'm feeling more philosophical today.

I honestly don't see the point of a mac, it is more of a gizmo.

You've definitely changed - the old Fiddles would positively relish the opportunity to get jiggy with a dead guy for fun and profit :(
I don't mind necrophilia, I just hate sharing.

I don't mind necrophilia, I just hate sharing.God, you're such a prude.

God, you're such a prude.

That explains a lot of Christianity now, doesn't it...

God, you're such a prude.
At least I'm not a communist, like you, with your sharing and your . . . other things.
Why don't you go take control of the means of production, communist!

That explains a lot of Christianity now, doesn't it...Yup. It also explains why Jesus' life between 12 and 30 was virtually omitted from the bible. God didn't want His believers to know about Jesus: The Party Years...
At least I'm not a communist, like you, with your sharing and your . . . other things.
Why don't you go take control of the means of production, communist!I'm no commie, I gave up on that when I went to university. Fucking students and their baseless ideals, honestly.

PC but modified so it has a cool Mac-like interface. I'm running XP but I've completely hidden the window's bar at the bottom of the screen and replaced it with a dock, applied a skin to make all the windows and everything look like the "panther" skin that Macs use, added shadows to windows, added a desktop calendar and got a Mac-like bar at the top of the screen. Looks like a Mac, runs like a PC.

Try and remember, it’s well worth it.

Completely customisable media players don’t come along every day.Completely customizable how?

EDIT: I'm trying it now.

Mac. In fact I run the 15" MacBook Pro. Snazzy. And I don't use the built in mouse very often (I wouldn't on a PC either). To awkward, so I bought a Logitech bluetooth mouse (no need to waste a USB port). Looks pretty streamlined.

Why did I choose Mac? Well it was what I was raised on. OSX is a simple and natural operating system for the normal user. No fuss. Well almost, I had to reload OSX the other day but that was all my fault (drunk people shouldn't be allowed near computers). I don't run any anti-virus software or firewalls of any sort and I don't need to to because as of now there simply isn't the risk that there is with PCs. You may be suprised to know however that I do run Microsoft Office. Probably one of the few decent things to come out of that camp in my opinion (I run the Mac version of course, so I could be completely wrong if the PC version does blow)

As well, I'm not a gamer by any means (unless you count Twister... naked.... with females ;)). I don't need any serious computing power (maybe a little, it is a top of the line laptop). Just a computer that'll let me surf the web, play and edit my music, all that sorta stuff you actually see in the Mac ads. Plus I went with the MacBook Pro just so I could blow my dads little ol' 12" PoweBook outta the water.

PC I am likely to Linux it anyways might as well not pay for the hardware and throw the OS out

PC but modified so it has a cool Mac-like interface. I'm running XP but I've completely hidden the window's bar at the bottom of the screen and replaced it with a dock, applied a skin to make all the windows and everything look like the "panther" skin that Macs use, added shadows to windows, added a desktop calendar and got a Mac-like bar at the top of the screen. Looks like a Mac, runs like a PC.

Screenshot?

Perhaps you missed the part where I said he broke OSX.

He installed Linux simply because he had no choice? Cause it's pretty easy to re-install the OS...

Tell them to get Adium (http://adiumx.com/).

Yes. *worships*

Yup. It also explains why Jesus' life between 12 and 30 was virtually omitted from the bible. God didn't want His believers to know about Jesus: The Party Years...

What, 12? Jesus was getting drunk and adultering in Grade 7? :eek:

(drunk people shouldn't be allowed near computers)Yes they should. Matter of fact, it is my preferred state when fixing someone else's computer. Second choice would be really high, but then I end up playing minesweeper for hours.

I'd like a Mac but I won't buy one because there is very few Mac repair centres where I live (maybe 1 ...). And in all honesty, I'd spent most of my time using XP or Vista anyway as Mac come a dead last when game writing companies release anything.

What, 12? Jesus was getting drunk and adultering in Grade 7? :eek:It was the style at the time.

I'd like a Mac but I won't buy one because there is very few Mac repair centres where I live (maybe 1 ...). And in all honesty, I'd spent most of my time using XP or Vista anyway as Mac come a dead last when game writing companies release anything.

There is hope. Quite a few companies (... okay, maybe 3. Shut up.) have decreed that they'll release all their games for Mac and Windows at the same time.

It was the style at the time.

Those crazy Ancient Romans.
Of course, if he'd joined the army he'd probably have been raping and pillaging at 9 or 10.

Yes they should. Matter of fact, it is my preferred state when fixing someone else's computer. Second choice would be really high, but then I end up playing minesweeper for hours.

Correction, I shouldn't be allowed my computer when drunk. But seeing as there is no one to take away the power cord, drunk computing does take place from time to time.

And now for my gratuitious happy bragging as I post a picture of my brand new beryl cube

http://www.youdontevenrealize.com/pictures/computers/cube.jpg (this one mostly to show 3D effects but ya got to play with it to believe it)

And now for my gratuitious happy bragging as I post a picture of my brand new beryl cube

http://www.youdontevenrealize.com/pictures/computers/cube.jpg (this one mostly to show 3D effects but ya got to play with it to believe it)Your computer has too many pixels.

But haven't you heard, Beryl is now called Compiz Fusion.

What do you use? AIGLX or XGL?

Those crazy Ancient Romans.
Of course, if he'd joined the army he'd probably have been raping and pillaging at 9 or 10.Ah, to be 9 again. *nostalgic*

Your computer has too many pixels.

But haven't you heard, Beryl is now called Compiz Fusion.

What do you use? AIGLX or XGL?

Lol yes it is but I figured a stepping stone as it was well documented for beryl right now I am sure I will migrate

AS for the install one of the simplest things I have ever done (with nvidia and twinview) simply astounding how it worked

AS for rendering I am using auto I think it defaults on force NVIDIA but I was using AIGLX before

Is there a preference? all 3 are an option for me

Lol yes it is but I figured a stepping stone as it was well documented for beryl right now I am sure I will migrate

AS for the install one of the simplest things I have ever done (with nvidia and twinview) simply astounding how it worked

AS for rendering I am using auto I think it defaults on force NVIDIA but I was using AIGLX before

Is there a preference? all 3 are an option for meNVIDIA, eh? Did you already build that gaming PC?

Anyways, I don't know if their is an practical difference between NVIDIA and AIGLX. AIGLX may be the better choice as NVIDIA's could be buggy as the latest driver was quite the regression (particularly security wise, there is a font that can take over your system due to a bug in NVIDIA's driver). Just don't do XGL. Actually, I don't think you can do XGL more. It is pretty broken on anything using xserver-1.3.

Hmmm, look at the ATI documentation for Beryl got thrashed on a weekly basis.


But did you hear what ATI is doing to catchup? Besides finally getting the binary blob up to reasonable performance, with AIGLX next month, the are releasing a barebones OSS driver and the full specs (without NDAs or anything). Sounds like I may only have another month of suffering with the horror that is a 2D desktop (well, except at school).

NVIDIA, eh? Did you already build that gaming PC?

Anyways, I don't know if their is an practical difference between NVIDIA and AIGLX. AIGLX may be the better choice as NVIDIA's could be buggy as the latest driver was quite the regression (particularly security wise, there is a font that can take over your system due to a bug in NVIDIA's driver). Just don't do XGL. Actually, I don't think you can do XGL more. It is pretty broken on anything using xserver-1.3.

Hmmm, look at the ATI documentation for Beryl got thrashed on a weekly basis.


But did you hear what ATI is doing to catchup? Besides finally getting the binary blob up to reasonable performance, with AIGLX next month, the are releasing a barebones OSS driver and the full specs (without NDAs or anything). Sounds like I may only have another month of suffering with the horror that is a 2D desktop (well, except at school).
Well so far its been rock solid as is I have been blown away by the performance

This is on my "old" machine I am going to hold off on the new machine for a bit

Well so far its been rock solid as is I have been blown away by the performance

This is on my "old" machine I am going to hold off on the new machine for a bitWell I heard about it in an New ATI vs NVIDIA flamewar, so it is probably a horribly insignificant proportions in order to make nvidia look bad.

Ah, to be 9 again. *nostalgic*

*edges away*

We kicked this on on a work machine with a low end intell pro onboard graphics card today (it was being formatted and on the way out of the shop)

The card was able to run every effect beryl could throw at it and it wont even run areo glass lol. Up to and including the transparencies and water effects

Heh heh... yep, that sounds like Linux.

Well I heard about it in an New ATI vs NVIDIA flamewar, so it is probably a horribly insignificant proportions in order to make nvidia look bad.
We kicked this on on a work machine with a low end intell pro onboard graphics card today (it was being formatted and on the way out of the shop)

The card was able to run every effect beryl could throw at it and it wont even run areo glass lol. Up to and including the transparencies and water effects

What about blurfx? That one is notorious for pulling down frame rates.

That is one we did not it had a bit of windows issues ... this machine no problem but it was some quick playing today on the way out :) I am done there and starting a new job

And with that night lol

We kicked this on on a work machine with a low end intell pro onboard graphics card today (it was being formatted and on the way out of the shop)

The card was able to run every effect beryl could throw at it and it wont even run areo glass lol. Up to and including the transparencies and water effectsWhat about blurfx? That one is notorious for pulling down frame rates.

You know, really it should be "cue".
*runs*

Screenshot?

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/DarkSideOfTheSpoon/screeny.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/DarkSideOfTheSpoon/screeny.jpg

That does look like real Mac, so have you showed that to real Mac users and totally fooled them?

That does look like real Mac, so have you showed that to real Mac users and totally fooled them?A few things aren't quite perfect, but it is damn close. The dock is the only obvious giveaway.

What about blurfx? That one is notorious for pulling down frame rates.

That's a cool effect. Especially when combined with the "new age" music I've got playing in Pandora and my rotating star field skydome. :D

But I'm getting what I assume is the "black window bug," as when rotating the cube the screen sometimes goes completely blank.

What about blurfx? That one is notorious for pulling down frame rates.

We kicked this on on a work machine with a low end intell pro onboard graphics card today (it was being formatted and on the way out of the shop)

The card was able to run every effect beryl could throw at it and it wont even run areo glass lol. Up to and including the transparencies and water effects

Stop it you two.

This is known as geek-trolling.

That does look like real Mac, so have you showed that to real Mac users and totally fooled them?

Nah. You can tell it isn't a Mac, and I don't care that it doesn't look exactly like one. I just like having a more enjoyable aesthetic experience compared to the crappy Windows interface.

He installed Linux simply because he had no choice? Cause it's pretty easy to re-install the OS...
He didn't want to go back to OSX. He didn't like something specific about it which he was trying to fix when he killed his OS.

Completely customizable how?

EDIT: I’m trying it now.
Check out File>Preferences.

Components, much like Firefox extensions, can be added to improve functionality or for specific purposes. For example, I’ve got a handy little component that downloads data from Discogs (http://www.discogs.com/), tagging my mp3s correctly.

Moreover, pretty much the entire code of foobar, and all its components, is available to change, remove and customise as you see fit. Here (http://www.fooblog2000.com/getting-started-with-foobar2000) is a handy little guide to initially setting up Foobar, while this (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000) wiki and this (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showforum=28) forum are fantastic resources for info and advice on getting the most out of Foobar.

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http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/DarkSideOfTheSpoon/screeny.jpg

Definitely the most convincing one I've seen.

Check out File>Preferences.

Components, much like Firefox extensions, can be added to improve functionality or for specific purposes. For example, I’ve got a handy little component that downloads data from Discogs (http://www.discogs.com/), tagging my mp3s correctly.

Moreover, pretty much the entire code of foobar, and all its components, is available to change, remove and customise as you see fit. Here (http://www.fooblog2000.com/getting-started-with-foobar2000) is a handy little guide to initially setting up Foobar, while this (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000) wiki and this (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showforum=28) forum are fantastic resources for info and advice on getting the most out of Foobar.

As (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foodevilslyric2ev.jpg) you (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8669/fooniner7ku.jpg) can (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090mm.png) see (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foobarnew9ot.png), you can do a huge amount with this wonderful program.That is groovy. Ill have to look into that next time I bootup Windows. That is way more customizable than most other Windows media players (I think Amarok still has it beat, but it won't be supporting Windows until post Xmas). Also, It allow me to queue tracks will using a random playlist.The only other Windows app I've found that can do this is Winamp, which I just don't like.

Stop it you two.

This is known as geek-trolling.Shuddup or start taking about the particle effects.