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I'm sure that there are number of these old threads kicking around, but what is one more.

I was looking at my join date today March, 2003 and came to the sudden realization that I have been playing NS for almost 4 1/2 years now. I took a look threads that are currently active, and they are nothing compared to what it was like when I first joined.

It seems to me that there is now a lack of excitement, and lack of imagination. Thought I never took part in most event of NS, I did watch them unfold, it was fun to watch. Now I stuggle to maintain any attention to NS other then to stay in contact with some old friend (though most have gone now)

But then again things for me have change. I am no longer in unversity, no longer single. I now work monday to friday 8-5, have a wonderful girlfriend who I will most likely marry. I guess that if things here have changed so have I.

But this is nothing more the a rant from an old man. I am wondering who else feels this way

What the heck is it just me or are these nostalgia threads on the uptake?

I remember the days of -insert old NSG craze-. Do you guys remember that time when -Insert old school poster- got into a flame fest with -Insert different old school poster-? How about that time when -insert troll- posted -insert explicit material-? Those were the good ol' days.

What the heck is it just me or are these nostalgia threads on the uptake?

I guess that as this forum gets older there are more people who get nostalgic.

I remember there being a lot more posting going on when I joined. I couldn't keep track of any one particular thread, because it would have increased the pages by five or more within the time of me doing something else for an hour or so.

Not so much, anymore.

It is true. I've moved over to II a lot more these days, just because the number of good threads going on just isn't as high as it used to be. Maybe it's more a product of time spent on the forums than any real decline, but things are different.

It's the Golden Age phenomenon, to a degree. When you first join a place like this, everything's so new and exciting that you check into everything, finding it all intriguing and funny. Then you wise up a bit, adjust your levels to suit the individual forum. Everything's not quite the same level of interesting but there are peaks of greatness and posters who outstrip most - more of a silver age. However, people move on, the forum dynamics change and (importantly for this place) the moderation techniques and approach alter, sometimes radically. It's not the place you're used to, these new posters are often tards and different cliques arise from nowhere. What's it mean? Time for a change, maybe, or just try to go with the flow. After all, this place is meant to serve your needs, not its own.

It's the Golden Age phenomenon, to a degree. When you first join a place like this, everything's so new and exciting that you check into everything, finding it all intriguing and funny. Then you wise up a bit, adjust your levels to suit the individual forum. Everything's not quite the same level of interesting but there are peaks of greatness and posters who outstrip most - more of a silver age. However, people move on, the forum dynamics change and (importantly for this place) the moderation techniques and approach alter, sometimes radically. It's not the place you're used to, these new posters are often tards and different cliques arise from nowhere. What's it mean? Time for a change, maybe, or just try to go with the flow. After all, this place is meant to serve your needs, not its own.


True, there has been a change in the way things gone on around here now. I can remember when there were no real Mods and there was a great debate inn who should become a mod.

But I have changed as well. Debating my political idea's against those who oppose my view is no longer fun, I see it as nothing more then a wasted of my. As I move closer and closer to actually having a family I simply do not have time.

More the point that I am trying to make is that I too changed, my fun days are now behind me. Biggest things for me right now is when to get the dog in for a vet appointment, as well what type of mortgage can I afford.

You never see it happening, but then one day you realize it HAS happened

isn't 'gone' sort of implicit in the expression 'days of old'?

I close my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone
All my dreams, pass before my eyes, a curiosity
Dust in the wind, all they are is dust in the wind.
Same old song, just a drop of water in an endless sea
All we do, crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see

Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind

[Now] Don't hang on, nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky
It slips away, and all your money won't another minute buy.

Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind
Dust in the wind, everything is dust in the wind.


I feel this thread needed that. :)

It's the Golden Age phenomenon, to a degree. When you first join a place like this, everything's so new and exciting that you check into everything, finding it all intriguing and funny. Then you wise up a bit, adjust your levels to suit the individual forum. Everything's not quite the same level of interesting but there are peaks of greatness and posters who outstrip most - more of a silver age. However, people move on, the forum dynamics change and (importantly for this place) the moderation techniques and approach alter, sometimes radically. It's not the place you're used to, these new posters are often tards and different cliques arise from nowhere. What's it mean? Time for a change, maybe, or just try to go with the flow. After all, this place is meant to serve your needs, not its own.
wize words dude... tis why i'm still here. go with the flow. my "good ol' days" are gone, but this forum still kicks the ass of most others i've seen/been a member of in the last few years. sometimes this place is awesome, sometimes its quiet... this week it seems a bit quiet.

I remember there being a lot more posting going on when I joined. I couldn't keep track of any one particular thread, because it would have increased the pages by five or more within the time of me doing something else for an hour or so.

Not so much, anymore.

this i would agree with. back in the day you had to jump on a thread early or it'd be tens of pages long in no time. now i can leave it most of the day and still get a word in on page 4 or something...


edit: i, too, have changed in my time here, same as the OP... no longer at uni, got a job, got a gf, looking for apartments...

I's wize! Sweet...

Really though, it's true. I miss people from this place that I can barely remember the names of now, mainly because they were a bit odd. I miss that this place used to be more tolerant of slight spam and generally how it used to be. I know it's mostly me looking back through rose-tinted spectacles but it doesn't make a difference.

Also, @ Zilam - You're my boy, Blue! You're my boy...

What I really like about this forum is that the same issues are being talked about as when I first ambled through years ago. No real progress has been made and the people have changed frequently but I think that is perfectly apt for a politics forum.

I wouldn't change this place for the world, for all its' frequent upheaval, it seems like a nice calm spot in the storm of life.

One thing hasn't changed. Bush is still in power :)

But yes, things change in life, even NS :p

I's wize! Sweet...

Really though, it's true. I miss people from this place that I can barely remember the names of now, mainly because they were a bit odd. I miss that this place used to be more tolerant of slight spam and generally how it used to be. I know it's mostly me looking back through rose-tinted spectacles but it doesn't make a difference.


lol there's a first (and last ;)) time for everything :p

and i don't think its rose-tinted anything.... tomorrow (when i find the file) i'll upload and post an old thread from back in the days of TIN that shows well just how spammy and fun this place was back then...


but we can complain and moan, but the truth is we're still here :D

I don't know about the rest of you, but I find it hard to come back to the forum because most of the population is different now. I recognize a few names here and there, but mostly I've never heard of you people.

EDIT: March 2003 is where it's at.

Awww, I have to wait a while before I can get all nostalgic.

Click Stand;13029266']Awww, I have to wait a while before I can get all nostalgic.

ooh do you remember last month? what a great month that was ;) :p


there were more fluffles back in the day, too! :fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle:

I guess so. After all, I've changed too. I've been exposed to people I would never otherwise meet through here, so I like it, though.

ooh do you remember last month? what a great month that was ;) :p


there were more fluffles back in the day, too! :fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle:
That's certainly true. There were more fluffles.

You don't make things anymore imaginative or exciting by complaining about it

there were more fluffles back in the day, too! :fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle:
There was moar Tink, you mean. TIN was a full on legend though, him and LP used to keep me fairly entertained all on their own.

Also, I demand membership to S.P.O.T!

You don't make things anymore imaginative or exciting by complaining about it
We're older, therefore reserve the right to bitch about anything, even if it doesn't necessarily make sense! I remember when this was all fields, you know...

We're older, therefore reserve the right to bitch about anything, even if it doesn't necessarily make sense! I remember when this was all fields, you know...

Right....

Cause society is a beautiful thing.

But the way I see it, you can stop wasting your time bitching here like you have nothing better to do with your lives or you can go out there and create pretty new threads for everyone to join and go "Wow! Old person! They really know their stuff! Alright!!"

Catch my drift? You're making your own "problem" worse by sitting here and...being old and cranky.

Right....

Cause society is a beautiful thing.

But the way I see it, you can stop wasting your time bitching here like you have nothing better to do with your lives or you can go out there and create pretty new threads for everyone to join and go "Wow! Old person! They really know their stuff! Alright!!"

Catch my drift? You're making your own "problem" worse by sitting here and...being old and cranky.
Or I could sit here on my damn porch, rattling my damn cane against the wall and complaining about those damn kids with their skateboards and their hip hop and the jeans that don't cover their asses. It's more entertaining and requires less thought.

Society's always been in the gutter, ain't got no bearing on me. Let the young'uns try to change the world, I'm happy with my cantankerous attitude and nipple-high slacks.

It is true. I've moved over to II a lot more these days.

I have heard of people talking of "II". So what is it?

Or I could sit here on my damn porch, rattling my damn cane against the wall and complaining about those damn kids with their skateboards and their hip hop and the jeans that don't cover their asses. It's more entertaining and requires less thought.

Society's always been in the gutter, ain't got no bearing on me. Let the young'uns try to change the world, I'm happy with my cantankerous attitude and nipple-high slacks.

Then you go right ahead and sit on your porch. I'm not stopping you.

I'm going to go off and take over the world. Enjoy the little time you have left :D

I have heard of people talking of "II". So what is it?

International Incidents. You roleplay your nation's foreign policy.

I don't have the patience for it, and I like Soheran being more or less intact, so....

I have heard of people talking of "II". So what is it?
International Incidents, I think.

And KAT, enjoy the world, just don't try to take my porch. It's got my rocker.

International Incidents. You roleplay your nation's foreign policy.

I don't have the patience for it, and I like Soheran being more or less intact, so....

ahh ok, thanks....

International Incidents, I think.

And KAT, enjoy the world, just don't try to take my porch. It's got my rocker.

I love International Incidents. Good stuff in there.

I think I will enjoy the world, just don't crap too much on it, okay?



Hah. You know what I just realized? I've technically been on NS for 3 years. I started my freshman year but NS deleted my two nations (Koulema Tekee Tatijan and Harmful If Swallowed) because I hadn't been on for a bit. So, I'm technicallyan old person too.

Got another rocker?

I remember there being a lot more posting going on when I joined. I couldn't keep track of any one particular thread, because it would have increased the pages by five or more within the time of me doing something else for an hour or so.

Not so much, anymore.

Yep,an intelligent thread could last 2 pages.A humorous maybe 3.Even when I joined back in February the threads were longer and better.

There is a lot less action on General in recent months/years. Back in ye olden days there would be 6 or 7 pages of threads that had been posted on in the past 24 hours, now it is generally just 3, and most of them suck.
Not that most of them didn't suck in the old days, they totally did, but at least there was a greater mass of vacuum being produced.

I'm sure that there are number of these old threads kicking around, but what is one more.

I was looking at my join date today March, 2003 and came to the sudden realization that I have been playing NS for almost 4 1/2 years now. I took a look threads that are currently active, and they are nothing compared to what it was like when I first joined.

It seems to me that there is now a lack of excitement, and lack of imagination. Thought I never took part in most event of NS, I did watch them unfold, it was fun to watch. Now I stuggle to maintain any attention to NS other then to stay in contact with some old friend (though most have gone now)

But then again things for me have change. I am no longer in unversity, no longer single. I now work monday to friday 8-5, have a wonderful girlfriend who I will most likely marry. I guess that if things here have changed so have I.

But this is nothing more the a rant from an old man. I am wondering who else feels this way

I'm about 2 months away from 4 years myself and I've seen actually an upward climb. I think RPs are better written and better thought out on the whole. There's a lot of new technology being used as well. It's tough to come up with new stuff though, I mean 4+ years of NS or is it 5? Well yeah that many years there's a lot that's been done although a lot of the people are still thinking up new things...also I don't miss the hourly crashes.

I remember the days of -insert old NSG craze-. Do you guys remember that time when -Insert old school poster- got into a flame fest with -Insert different old school poster-? How about that time when -insert troll- posted -insert explicit material-? Those were the good ol' days.

Yeah! Wasn't it -insert favorite adjective here-?

What I really like about this forum is that the same issues are being talked about as when I first ambled through years ago. No real progress has been made and the people have changed frequently but I think that is perfectly apt for a politics forum.

I wouldn't change this place for the world, for all its' frequent upheaval, it seems like a nice calm spot in the storm of life.

True, one of the reason why I don't get into debates anyone, nothing really changes. But there were some really good debates with strong points being made that were just enjoyable and I would learn something.

Right....

Cause society is a beautiful thing.

But the way I see it, you can stop wasting your time bitching here like you have nothing better to do with your lives or you can go out there and create pretty new threads for everyone to join and go "Wow! Old person! They really know their stuff! Alright!!"

Catch my drift? You're making your own "problem" worse by sitting here and...being old and cranky.

I'm not complaining I am simply saying that things have changed, or at least they have changed based on the fact that my perspective have changed.

However, compared to when NS first started there does not seem to be the same sense of community that there once was.

Threads like these make me want to have a drink. Then I remember that I don't drink and I get even more depressed.

Not even the hot topics are excessive these days..

there were more fluffles back in the day, too! :fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle:

HERETIC! In my day, there was no such thing as a fluffle! http://sevenscientists.goobergunch.net/forums/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

/me shakes his cane.

i don't know if there's any connection or not, but i remember before it was moved to jolt, it used to be possible to roll play something besides war or soccer. i mean percentage wise, there was close to or maybe more then a third of the roll playing that was actually more or less interesting. now it seems to be down somewhere between five and one percent, if even that.

=^^=
.../\...

HERETIC! In my day, there was no such thing as a fluffle! http://sevenscientists.goobergunch.net/forums/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

/me shakes his cane.

ah, get back to your retirement home, grandpa ;)

Also, @ Zilam - You're my boy, Blue! You're my boy...

haha. I just watched that movie for the first time the other night. I must say, I hope I can go out of this world like ol' Blue.

HERETIC! In my day, there was no such thing as a fluffle! http://sevenscientists.goobergunch.net/forums/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

/me shakes his cane.
But we used to have that smilie.:D
ah, get back to your retirement home, grandpa ;)Carefull, he might take you out of his will.;)

I couldn't really say, I've only been regularly reading/posting on this forum for just over a year, despite my joined date. I suppose it was more active then, but I didn't devote as much time to reading it so it probably seemed more than it really was.

But this is nothing more the a rant from an old man. I am wondering who else feels this way

*raises hand*

I never really cared about the forums, but maintaining my nation has become one of my daily chores.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I find it hard to come back to the forum because most of the population is different now. I recognize a few names here and there, but mostly I've never heard of you people.

EDIT: March 2003 is where it's at.

Oddly enough, I remember your name from back in the day.

Oh, and I really miss the old smilies.

Oh well, another year on NS.

The only difference I really notice from the older days is that back then there were a lot more openly white supremacists. And all those stupid chat threads were much more prevalent ... Also, we obviously weren't with Jolt so the forums stopped working a lot more frequently.

Other than that, the content is essentially the same just with different posters ...

i don't know if there's any connection or not, but i remember before it was moved to jolt, it used to be possible to roll play something besides war or soccer. i mean percentage wise, there was close to or maybe more then a third of the roll playing that was actually more or less interesting. now it seems to be down somewhere between five and one percent, if even that.

=^^=
.../\...

You just have to find the right people to RP with.

Yep,an intelligent thread could last 2 pages.A humorous maybe 3.Even when I joined back in February the threads were longer and better.

If you go far enough back in time there wasn't even a restriction on the length of a thread. There was a time when NS general had 3 threads over 100 pages and the longest was much longer.

Oddly enough, I remember your name from back in the day.

Oh, and I really miss the old smilies.

Oh well, another year on NS.

I remember you too, but nothing about you. Time heals all wounds I think :P

I love International Incidents. Good stuff in there.

I think I will enjoy the world, just don't crap too much on it, okay?



Hah. You know what I just realized? I've technically been on NS for 3 years. I started my freshman year but NS deleted my two nations (Koulema Tekee Tatijan and Harmful If Swallowed) because I hadn't been on for a bit. So, I'm technicallyan old person too.

Got another rocker?

You can have your nation restored if it's deleted for inactivity. I've been deleted more times than I can remember now but I still have my sexy geriatric "Mar 2003" tag.

You can have your nation restored if it's deleted for inactivity. I've been deleted more times than I can remember now but I still have my sexy geriatric "Mar 2003" tag.
Really? I could have Llewdor back?

There aren't as many open pedophiles as there used to be, either. I rather liked The Five Castes.

I think it's finally time to point out that of course the days of old are gone. They wouldn't be the days of old if they were still here.

You can have your nation restored if it's deleted for inactivity. I've been deleted more times than I can remember now but I still have my sexy geriatric "Mar 2003" tag.

Do tell.

This interests me extremely!!! I want my babies back!

Do tell.

This interests me extremely!!! I want my babies back!

There is a section the tech support, if you give them the nations and the email address that you signed up with then they can reactivate it. However, you population will not have grown.

Here you go:

Go to http://www.nationstates.net/-1/page=help

and click on the menu where it says "Describe the problem". It has "Restore a Deleted Nation" on it. Then type in the nation name and email address.

You will get this:

From: ANONYMOUS

You are submitting this help request anonymously. This makes it much more difficult for us to help you. If you have a nation, please login to it first before you submit your help request. Otherwise, please provide an email so that we can contact you. If we have no way of contacting you, we may not be able to help.

Be sure to provide enough information for a moderator to investigate your problem. If you have received an abusive telegram, don't delete it until a moderator has verified it.

So you don't have to have an existing nation (or be logged into the one you do have) to submit; it just helps. Naturally, you'll wanna do all you can to help your dear, kind mods ...

EDIT: WOOT! I knew more than a 2003 nation! At last!

Here you go:

Go to http://www.nationstates.net/-1/page=help

and click on the menu where it says "Describe the problem". It has "Restore a Deleted Nation" on it. Then type in the nation name and email address.
Cool. We'll see if that works.

I'd like Llewdor back. I don't like that people dismiss me because they think I'm a n00b.

The only thing I miss is the Stormfront Wars. It was fun when we had a half dozen resident Aryans stirring up drama. And I miss Paratoga's constant personal drama (wasn't she dying of like five different things at one point?).

The only thing I miss is the Stormfront Wars. It was fun when we had a half dozen resident Aryans stirring up drama. And I miss Paratoga's constant personal drama (wasn't she dying of like five different things at one point?).

Can we have another Stormfront War? Pretty please?

SWII: Attack of the Racists.