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Taller women and shorter men

Dakini
04-09-2007, 06:59
So I was away for this school dealy and I met this guy. I thought he was rather cute and he apparently felt the same about me so we had a bit of a fling, I'm not sure if anything will come of it due to distance issues, but leaving that aside... while we were there, we would walk around holding hands and the like and we encountered a couple on the beach with their son who insisted that we come have a drink with them. So we did and we talked to them and they told me that the guy I was with was too short for me (I'm 5'8" and he's ~5'3"-5'4"-ish). Now height isn't a big issue with me, but I've had male friends who won't date girls taller than they are, and combined with the sort of reaction from the beach people, I really wonder why some people seem to think that taller women can't go out with shorter men?

I might put up a poll if someone suggests good options. But discuss for now.
Barringtonia
04-09-2007, 07:04
If a man is taller than his partner, the children will tend to be taller than their parents, if it's the other way round, the children will be smaller than their parents.

If you want midgets for kids then there shouldn't be a problem but perhaps ask your friend how he likes being so small and it may mean you think twice about the matter.

It's because you're tall that you don't care, but your children will.
Dakini
04-09-2007, 07:07
If a man is taller than his partner, the children will tend to be taller than their parents, if it's the other way round, the children will be smaller than their parents.
Actually, if the man is shorter the daughters will be shorter and if the woman is shorter the sons will be shorter generally...

And are you basically suggesting that my friend not have kids at all to prevent from passing on his "short-ness"?
Spaam
04-09-2007, 07:07
I don't think I could date a woman taller than me, but at 6'1", there aren't exactly that many of them either. However, my ideal woman would probably be around 5'10".
Barringtonia
04-09-2007, 07:08
Actually, if the man is shorter the daughters will be shorter and if the woman is shorter the sons will be shorter generally...

And are you basically suggesting that my friend not have kids at all to prevent from passing on his "short-ness"?

He can have kids, just with a shorter female so the kids can be taller.

I like scientific threads like these.
Dakini
04-09-2007, 07:11
He can have kids, just with a shorter female so the kids can be taller.

I like scientific threads like these.
How would having kids with a girl shorter than him make his hypothetical kids taller? Wouldn't they end up shorter due to a lack of tall genes?
Amarenthe
04-09-2007, 07:13
I'm a gal, and I tend to date guys taller than me. I guess I like having to look *up* to make eye contact... it makes me feel small and delicate or something. :p Not that I am. But it ties in, for me, with the idea that my boyfriend is big and tough and strong and can protect me and stuff. I know many woman will scoff at the idea, but I'm kind of old-fashioned like that, and I prefer to feel like the more vulnerable between the two of us, and he's there to look out for me.

I know there are a few woman on NSG that would chew me out for that, but it's just my own personal preference.

As for why it's a society thing, I guess it's just tradition, and stereotype? Way back when, women looked for guys who were strong and could hunt and protect the family and such, and being taller ties in with the image. I think guys themselves tend to want to feel that they're the physically stronger one in a relationship, too, and height affects that sense.
Callisdrun
04-09-2007, 07:13
So I was away for this school dealy and I met this guy. I thought he was rather cute and he apparently felt the same about me so we had a bit of a fling, I'm not sure if anything will come of it due to distance issues, but leaving that aside... while we were there, we would walk around holding hands and the like and we encountered a couple on the beach with their son who insisted that we come have a drink with them. So we did and we talked to them and they told me that the guy I was with was too short for me (I'm 5'8" and he's ~5'3"-5'4"-ish). Now height isn't a big issue with me, but I've had male friends who won't date girls taller than they are, and combined with the sort of reaction from the beach people, I really wonder why some people seem to think that taller women can't go out with shorter men?

I might put up a poll if someone suggests good options. But discuss for now.

Just looks odd because, overall, on average, the females of our species are smaller than the males.

When you step back and think about it though, there's no good reason to think that women should not date men shorter than they are, and vice versa. So one can simply dismiss it as just being unusual but not important.

My ladyfriend is quite a bit shorter than I am, but she's a small person in general. Two good friends of mine actually do have the taller woman than man thing, but they're a really cute couple anyway.

Height doesn't really matter.
Barringtonia
04-09-2007, 07:19
How would having kids with a girl shorter than him make his hypothetical kids taller? Wouldn't they end up shorter due to a lack of tall genes?

I don't know, I'm making it up as I go along.

To be honest, there's no valid reason for a girl not to date someone shorter.

Invalid reasons include:

1. It looks odd - simply because it's not the norm.
2. Wearing high heels becomes an issue because it makes odd even odder.
3. Males under 5'5" tend to have Napoleon complexes

There may be more reasons but those are the only ones I can think of.
Dakini
04-09-2007, 07:20
Height doesn't really matter.
That's what I figure.

I mean, the last guy I dated is 6'8"... I was told that we looked funny together too...
Dakini
04-09-2007, 07:22
I don't know, I'm making it up as I go along.

To be honest, there's no valid reason for a girl not to date someone shorter.

Invalid reasons include:

1. It looks odd - simply because it's not the norm.
2. Wearing high heels becomes an issue because it makes odd even odder.
3. Males under 5'5" tend to have Napoleon complexes

There may be more reasons but those are the only ones I can think of.
Ah, but 2 on the list is fun to do sometimes... even with a shorter guy around. I don't know about #3, but I have noticed that when I've dated guys shorter than average they tend to be a bit more muscly than taller guys... I wonder if there's some correlation between height and some light gym going.
Weh Ist Mich
04-09-2007, 07:27
If you two really loved each other, then why should you two care what others think? Seriously, to hell with judgemental people.
Nouvelle Wallonochie
04-09-2007, 07:34
I've had people give me shit before based on my significant other's height (I'm 6'4 and she was 5'0). I'm not sure why people care, as I most certainly don't.
Liminus
04-09-2007, 07:35
I think that's actually true, that shorter guys tend to hit the gym up more. I'm 5'4" or 5'5" (honestly haven't checked since High School, either way, I'm fairly short for a guy) and I've noticed that a lot of other guys my height tend to lift and the such. Personally, I'd really hate to be big and bulky from lifting. Women could consider it the hottest thing on the planet, I'd still feel like a jackass, I think, if my biceps were as big as my head.

More onto the topic, though. I think for guys more so than girls that it's just weird dating a girl taller than yourself. I mean, I understand from a critical and logical point of view, the height difference really doesn't matter, but it would be uncomfortable. If a woman is more than an inch taller than me, it's pretty much a deal breaker no matter what. =\

I guess that means I'll end up having very short children should I ever start a family. We could move to New Zealand or something, though, and live in the LotR set. It'd be awesome. Plus, I make a way better Hobbit than Elijah Wood, imo. =P
L-rouge
04-09-2007, 08:15
It makes absolutely no odds whether the guy is shorter or taller than the women. I have very little choice but to date taller women (being probably one of the shortest guys on here, and obviously the shortest I know) but I've never had a problem. I've "stood up" for my girlfriends before and why shouldn't I.
Height really doesn't matter, and if you're only concerned with this persons height because "other people" have told you its wrong, it just seems that they should get out more.
Barringtonia
04-09-2007, 09:02
It makes absolutely no odds whether the guy is shorter or taller than the women. I have very little choice but to date taller women (being probably one of the shortest guys on here, and obviously the shortest I know) but I've never had a problem. I've "stood up" for my girlfriends before and why shouldn't I.
Height really doesn't matter, and if you're only concerned with this persons height because "other people" have told you its wrong, it just seems that they should get out more.

You say that but you're not a female who's having to think about whether she'll need to go through the rest of her life without wearing high heels.

Neither am I for that matter.

...and although I know that NSG is filled with oh so reasonable males and females who only see people for who they are and not what they look like but out there in real life, people do care about these things.

People want to look good and they want a partner who complements them and they especially don't want to be commented on whenever they go out.

Like my fellow Grand Duchy, Nouvelle Wallonochie, I'm a 6'3" male and although I have infinite patience I simply run out of pat answers to questions about whether I play basketball, about whether it's snowing up here or whatever other original question I'm asked.

I can take it because I feel superior to people around me, but many people feel inferior over many physical imperfections and that's simply a fact.

Something that's heightened by endless comments.

So although there's nothing actually wrong about taller or shorter in a relationship, it's what's normal and what's not normal and the latter is something to comment on - it can be tiring.
Pure Metal
04-09-2007, 09:34
hmm... i would find it odd to be with a girl who was taller than me. but thinking about it, i can't actually work out why. there's just something in me that finds the idea odd - not repulsive or anything, just a bit off.

maybe its as simple as men, in general, tend to be taller. therefore to be the man in the relationship, i have to be the taller one... to be the shorter one would make me, on some level, "not a man".... or something simplistically stupid like that :confused:

that's from my male point of view. i wonder if you get more men who prefer shorter women than you get women who prefer taller men (ie. do men care about this more than women)? maybe a poll? ;)
Barringtonia
04-09-2007, 09:37
that's from my male point of view. i wonder if you get more men who prefer shorter women than you get women who prefer taller men (ie. do men care about this more than women)? maybe a poll? ;)

I don't know what but this reminded me of When Harry met Sally, which when I think about it, is one of the best films ever, anyway...

Harry Burns: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally Albright: So, you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry Burns: No. You pretty much want to nail 'em too.

What's my point?

I don't have one.
Risottia
04-09-2007, 10:00
Actually, if the man is shorter the daughters will be shorter and if the woman is shorter the sons will be shorter generally...


Meh.

Me, 190 cm. Dad 175. Mum 165.

My fiancee, 170 cm. Her sister, 165. Her brother, 175. Her dad, 185. Her mum, 165.

and many other examples. So I'd generally say that your rule of thumb fails.


BTW, here in Italy we have a very vulgar saying about short men being quite gifted about "other" measures. ;)
Caryston
04-09-2007, 10:04
As most males who are shorter than me are pre-pubescent, I generally would not date a male shorter than I am.

I suppose I would were I taller, however.

C.
Pure Metal
04-09-2007, 10:12
I don't know what but this reminded me of When Harry met Sally, which when I think about it, is one of the best films ever, anyway...



What's my point?

I don't have one.

no comment :p
Vimeria IV
04-09-2007, 10:16
BTW, here in Italy we have a very vulgar saying about short men being quite gifted about "other" measures. ;)

Every man is given about 190 centimeters to use as he sees fit.
Mirkai
04-09-2007, 10:26
If a man is taller than his partner, the children will tend to be taller than their parents, if it's the other way round, the children will be smaller than their parents.

If you want midgets for kids then there shouldn't be a problem but perhaps ask your friend how he likes being so small and it may mean you think twice about the matter.

It's because you're tall that you don't care, but your children will.

It's a height difference, not Down's Syndrome. Good god.
Jello Biafra
04-09-2007, 10:27
Now height isn't a big issue with me, but I've had male friends who won't date girls taller than they are, and combined with the sort of reaction from the beach people, I really wonder why some people seem to think that taller women can't go out with shorter men? Because they're sexists.
Barringtonia
04-09-2007, 10:31
It's a height difference, not Down's Syndrome. Good god.

I guess I can excuse you for not reading the entire tread seeing as it's 95 pages long :rolleyes:
Mirkai
04-09-2007, 10:34
I guess I can excuse you for not reading the entire tread seeing as it's 95 pages long :rolleyes:

I generally look for one post and reply cynically to it.
Sessboodeedwilla
04-09-2007, 10:38
I'm a gal, and I tend to date guys taller than me. I guess I like having to look *up* to make eye contact... it makes me feel small and delicate or something. :p Not that I am. But it ties in, for me, with the idea that my boyfriend is big and tough and strong and can protect me and stuff. I know many woman will scoff at the idea, but I'm kind of old-fashioned like that, and I prefer to feel like the more vulnerable between the two of us, and he's there to look out for me.

I know there are a few woman on NSG that would chew me out for that, but it's just my own personal preference.

As for why it's a society thing, I guess it's just tradition, and stereotype? Way back when, women looked for guys who were strong and could hunt and protect the family and such, and being taller ties in with the image. I think guys themselves tend to want to feel that they're the physically stronger one in a relationship, too, and height affects that sense.

Any woman that would chew you out for wanting to be treated like the delicate lady you are, doesn't date guys anyway, so don't sweat it doll.;)
Barringtonia
04-09-2007, 10:38
I generally look for one post and reply cynically to it.

We all do :p
Dundee-Fienn
04-09-2007, 10:41
Any woman that would chew you out for wanting to be treated like the delicate lady you are, doesn't date guys anyway, so don't sweat it doll.;)

Yes because all women who are independent, etc are lesbians :rolleyes:
Sessboodeedwilla
04-09-2007, 10:42
Ah, but 2 on the list is fun to do sometimes... even with a shorter guy around. I don't know about #3, but I have noticed that when I've dated guys shorter than average they tend to be a bit more muscly than taller guys... I wonder if there's some correlation between height and some light gym going.

their not more muscular, they are just more stout, because of the height difference, and it gives that appearance.
Risottia
04-09-2007, 10:42
Every man is given about 190 centimeters to use as he sees fit.

That's the general idea, although the overall amount of centimeters may vary.
Sessboodeedwilla
04-09-2007, 10:48
I think that's actually true, that shorter guys tend to hit the gym up more. I'm 5'4" or 5'5" (honestly haven't checked since High School, either way, I'm fairly short for a guy) and I've noticed that a lot of other guys my height tend to lift and the such. Personally, I'd really hate to be big and bulky from lifting. Women could consider it the hottest thing on the planet, I'd still feel like a jackass, I think, if my biceps were as big as my head.

More onto the topic, though. I think for guys more so than girls that it's just weird dating a girl taller than yourself. I mean, I understand from a critical and logical point of view, the height difference really doesn't matter, but it would be uncomfortable. If a woman is more than an inch taller than me, it's pretty much a deal breaker no matter what. =\

I guess that means I'll end up having very short children should I ever start a family. We could move to New Zealand or something, though, and live in the LotR set. It'd be awesome. Plus, I make a way better Hobbit than Elijah Wood, imo. =P

it's not true. If you watch the mr. universe, or mr. olympia contests, you'll notice that they have awards for height classes, and the winners of the overall class have always been at least 5'11" tall. also when they stand together, the shorter ones generally look deformed by comparison, like little bodybuilder action figures.
Sessboodeedwilla
04-09-2007, 10:55
It's a height difference, not Down's Syndrome. Good god.

whats the difference, on a politically correct basis, many men tend to be awfully sensitive about their height, when they are vertically challenged, just like extremely tall women tend to feel awkward and self consious about theirs, generally speaking.
Sessboodeedwilla
04-09-2007, 11:00
Yes because all women who are independent, etc are lesbians :rolleyes:

It has nothing to do with independence, and you know it. It always cracks me up when that is thrown in the arena, particularly because it's generally someone,that no one would sleep with if they had a better choice, claiming to be independent, rather than ALONE. :p
Jello Biafra
04-09-2007, 11:00
whats the difference, on a politically correct basis, many men tend to be awfully sensitive about their height, when they are vertically challenged, just like extremely tall women tend to feel awkward and self consious about theirs, generally speaking.Yes, but that doesn't explain why people who aren't in the relationship should care about it.
Barringtonia
04-09-2007, 11:02
It has nothing to do with independence, and you know it. It always cracks me up when that is thrown in the arena, particularly because it's generally someone,that no one would sleep with if they had a better choice, claiming to be independent, rather than ALONE. :p

In reading all your comments, I find your philosophy interesting and eagerly await your book
Sessboodeedwilla
04-09-2007, 11:03
Yes, but that doesn't explain why people who aren't in the relationship should care about it.

Well you know how it is with the average human, it's always fun to point out someone else's so called shortcomings( no pun intended) as a way to feel better about their own.
Sessboodeedwilla
04-09-2007, 11:05
In reading all your comments, I find your philosophy interesting and eagerly await your book

O.K. but don't be cheap and wait for the paperback. :p
Sessboodeedwilla
04-09-2007, 11:09
In reading all your comments, I find your philosophy interesting and eagerly await your book

Also if you believe that I'm wrong,explain to me why there aren't any California grade nines and tens a part of that crusade. :eek:
Ariddia
04-09-2007, 11:12
I've never met a woman taller than me (well, only once), and some of my girlfriends have been significantly shorter than me. I really don't mind either way. A woman taller than me (I'm 1m86) would look unusual, but I don't think I'd find it off-putting.
Barringtonia
04-09-2007, 11:24
Also if you believe that I'm wrong,explain to me why there aren't any California grade nines and tens a part of that crusade. :eek:

First you'll have to explain the meaning behind your sentence because it does fill me with great confusion :)
Dakini
04-09-2007, 11:56
Height really doesn't matter, and if you're only concerned with this persons height because "other people" have told you its wrong, it just seems that they should get out more.
I'm not really concerned and I don't think he is either, I mean, I told him that I thought he was tall enough for me after these people said otherwise. I just don't really get why they said it.
Kryozerkia
04-09-2007, 12:36
You say that but you're not a female who's having to think about whether she'll need to go through the rest of her life without wearing high heels.
Given that high heels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_heels#Foot_and_tendon_problems) can cause problems with the feet and tendons in the long run, I fail to see how going without high heels is necessary a bad thing. The way the shoe is made it is restrictive on the foot and changes the way we walk. We'd ladies would be better off without high heels (some platform shoes aren't so bad).
Dakini
04-09-2007, 12:37
and many other examples. So I'd generally say that your rule of thumb fails.
I didnt' make it up, I read it somewhere online. I'm lazy and have to move today thoguh so I'll have to get back to you with a citation.

BTW, here in Italy we have a very vulgar saying about short men being quite gifted about "other" measures. ;)
I've also encountered some tall guys who are gifted in other measures.
Dakini
04-09-2007, 12:38
Given that high heels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_heels#Foot_and_tendon_problems) can cause problems with the feet and tendons in the long run, I fail to see how going without high heels is necessary a bad thing. The way the shoe is made it is restrictive on the foot and changes the way we walk. We'd ladies would be better off without high heels (some platform shoes aren't so bad).
Are they only bad if you wear them habitually or does even wearing them occasionally screw things up?
Aelosia
04-09-2007, 12:56
I'm 1.50 meters tall...If I find a male shorter than me, I'm either a pedophile or my date has growth problems. (I think the word midget in english is offensive or peyorative, so I'll go with "growth problems")
Risottia
04-09-2007, 13:10
Are they only bad if you wear them habitually or does even wearing them occasionally screw things up?

Never tried to (I would look more stupid than gay) but I get from my female aquaintances that:

wearing high heels all the time will deform your feet, expecially if you're overweight

wearing high heels occasionally won't give you the time to learn to walk properly with them

So, I'd say that high heels (by "high" I mean more than 6-8 cm, that is) aren't a good idea.
L-rouge
04-09-2007, 13:40
I'm 1.50 meters tall...If I find a male shorter than me, I'm either a pedophile or my date has growth problems. (I think the word midget in english is offensive or peyorative, so I'll go with "growth problems")

By god there are women shorter than me!!!:eek: Although, only just... (I'm not a midget, dwarf, hobbit, or any other thing you might want to throw my way).

You say that but you're not a female who's having to think about whether she'll need to go through the rest of her life without wearing high heels.

Indeed I'm not, although I have gone out with girls who did wear high heels. There were no complaints.
People want to look good and they want a partner who complements them and they especially don't want to be commented on whenever they go out.
If the only thing people are looking for when they want a partner is someone that won't get comments, then they are severely restricted to the number of people who they can go out with.
The problem, as I see it, is social acceptance. This idea that men are X tall and women are Y tall has grown up (forgive the pun) without any real reason. Society has decided upon this structure and no one questions it. Sure if I were guy, disabled, etc, people couldn't say anything against me or a partner because that's what society has dictated, but short... fair game.
In general, if you're short and a guy, get a thick skin and put up with it, and just prove people wrong. And to women, try a guy who can bring you pleasure without needing to kneel:D

I don't have Napoleon syndrome, he was 5'6", not that short. I have Stalin syndrome, all 5'4" of him, the tall bastard!!
Infinite Revolution
04-09-2007, 13:50
i tend to be attracted to girls who are significantly shorter than me (like <5'3"). but having said that, the girl i met on sunday night and who i hope to see more of is about the same height as me (5'9"). at the end of the day height really isn't an important factor. it's all about eyes, smile and laughter for me. and boobs.
Smunkeeville
04-09-2007, 13:51
If a man is taller than his partner, the children will tend to be taller than their parents, if it's the other way round, the children will be smaller than their parents.

If you want midgets for kids then there shouldn't be a problem but perhaps ask your friend how he likes being so small and it may mean you think twice about the matter.

It's because you're tall that you don't care, but your children will.

There is nothing wrong with being short. :mad:

Also, my husband is 1 foot 2 inches taller than me and we don't have any problems, it sounds like you are just a bit taller than this guy, I don't see where you would have any issues. Yes, my husband and I get weird looks in public, but it's something you learn to ignore.

There is a def. bias against short people in general, and even more against short men, I don't understand why.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
04-09-2007, 13:52
Ah, but 2 on the list is fun to do sometimes... even with a shorter guy around. I don't know about #3, but I have noticed that when I've dated guys shorter than average they tend to be a bit more muscly than taller guys.
Short muscular guys look like D-List Batman villains. Especially when they wear sleeveless shirts.
Heikoku
04-09-2007, 14:02
Well, I'm 5'4 (Is that right? 166 cm) and I couldn't care LESS about the height of whatever woman wants to date me. :p
Risottia
04-09-2007, 16:21
Well, I'm 5'4 (Is that right? 166 cm) and I couldn't care LESS about the height of whatever woman wants to date me. :p

That's the spirit! Also, there are some very interesting things that can be done with women, without any need to stand and compare heights... *stops before going X-rated*
Barringtonia
04-09-2007, 16:24
There is nothing wrong with being short. :mad:

Also, my husband is 1 foot 2 inches taller than me and we don't have any problems, it sounds like you are just a bit taller than this guy, I don't see where you would have any issues. Yes, my husband and I get weird looks in public, but it's something you learn to ignore.

There is a def. bias against short people in general, and even more against short men, I don't understand why.

Mostly by short people - go look at the 'One thing I would like to change blah blah blah' and compare those who want to be shorter with those who want to be taller.

I don't know why but aren't there even statistics to show that tall people earn more on average than smaller people or something?

For some reason, and there's no other way I can say this, people look up to tall people.

I blame all those grandmothers, the one's who go 'oooh you're going to be soooo tall when you're older' - but then I blame grandmothers for everything these days.
Kryozerkia
04-09-2007, 16:29
Are they only bad if you wear them habitually or does even wearing them occasionally screw things up?

The real problems come from frequent usage.

Of course, I hate heels for personal reasons.

I wore a pair of heels when I got married. My feet were killing me after about 5 minutes to wearing them. I was in my own personal hell. I wasn't used to heels and I could barely walk in them.
Liminus
04-09-2007, 16:31
Mostly by short people - go look at the 'One thing I would like to change blah blah blah' and compare those who want to be shorter with those who want to be taller.

I don't know why but aren't there even statistics to show that tall people earn more on average than smaller people or something?

For some reason, and there's no other way I can say this, people look up to tall people.

I blame all those grandmothers, the one's who go 'oooh you're going to be soooo tall when you're older' - but then I blame grandmothers for everything these days.

Yea, we read this statistic in one of my political science classes. Height is directly linked to prestige and, following from that, economic success and such. Had some fun facts in the study, too. There's neither been a president under 6' tall nor has the shorter candidate ever won, if I'm remembering the statistics correctly.
Jello Biafra
04-09-2007, 16:38
BTW, here in Italy we have a very vulgar saying about short men being quite gifted about "other" measures. ;)Things look bigger by comparison on a smaller person than on a taller one. ;)
King Arthur the Great
04-09-2007, 16:46
Yea, we read this statistic in one of my political science classes. Height is directly linked to prestige and, following from that, economic success and such. Had some fun facts in the study, too. There's neither been a president under 6' tall nor has the shorter candidate ever won, if I'm remembering the statistics correctly.

Madison: 5'4", shortest President on record.
Lincoln: Tallest, at only 6'4".

Presidential trivia, including the tall/short and other statistics. (http://www.infoplease.com/spot/prestrivia1.html)
Risottia
04-09-2007, 16:52
Mostly by short people - go look at the 'One thing I would like to change blah blah blah' and compare those who want to be shorter with those who want to be taller.

I can give you my average day.

I wake up in a bed that is just 10 cm longer than me. No space for moving in the sleep.

I move on to prepare my breakfast, and usually hit some of the kitchen's furniture with my head. *bonk* "Holy ---- !!!!!!".

Then I sit down and of course I have to put my legs under my chair: if I try to sit properly, my knees scrape on the lower side of the table - after the first twenty trousers you ruin this way, it becomes slightly unnerving.

I step on the bus, and I cannot sit comfortabily on the seats, because they're made with "average height of adult male" standards of about 20 years ago (that is, 175 cm).

As I descent the stairs to the underground, I risk of scraping my precious scalp against the roof. Too low, again.

Then, the underground arrives, and I must remember to duck to avoid hitting the high side of the door. Max headroom 190 cm. Try and enter at the last moment, running to catch the train before it leaves, and *bonk* "Mother of ---- !!!!"

Go to La Scala theater and watch a 3-hours-long opera in a seat that was built for the average milanese citizen of three centuries ago (160 cm). Or try to find normal clothes that can fit properly, not those designed for obese people only. Try driving 3000 km in a week like I did this summer while squeezing yourself in an old VW Polo when your measures are more fitting to a Volvo station wagon.

Being above-average tall isn't all that's cracked up to be.

I don't know why but aren't there even statistics to show that tall people earn more on average than smaller people or something?

I can give you Mr.Silvio Berlusconi, also called sometimes "the eight dwarf".

Also, many people hailing from richer families grow taller than their poorer counterparts because of better nutrition. And, of course, people with richer backgrounds tend to be more successful than people with poorer backgrounds (better schools, better living standards, better culture, better jobs).


For some reason, and there's no other way I can say this, people look up to tall people.

When you're taller you have to look down to see other people's faces, you know. (The humouristic potential of english phrasal verbs is almost infinite).
Daistallia 2104
04-09-2007, 16:56
Tree climber in the house. ;)

As a moderately short (5'6"/168 cm) man who tends to be stongly attracted to (often much) taller women, I say go for it.
Agolthia
04-09-2007, 17:06
I've also encountered some tall guys who are gifted in other measures.

Excellent cooks? :p
King Arthur the Great
04-09-2007, 17:14
I can give you my average day.

I wake up in a bed that is just 10 cm longer than me. No space for moving in the sleep.

I move on to prepare my breakfast, and usually hit some of the kitchen's furniture with my head. *bonk* "Holy ---- !!!!!!".

Then I sit down and of course I have to put my legs under my chair: if I try to sit properly, my knees scrape on the lower side of the table - after the first twenty trousers you ruin this way, it becomes slightly unnerving.

I step on the bus, and I cannot sit comfortabily on the seats, because they're made with "average height of adult male" standards of about 20 years ago (that is, 175 cm).

As I descent the stairs to the underground, I risk of scraping my precious scalp against the roof. Too low, again.

Then, the underground arrives, and I must remember to duck to avoid hitting the high side of the door. Max headroom 190 cm. Try and enter at the last moment, running to catch the train before it leaves, and *bonk* "Mother of ---- !!!!"

Go to La Scala theater and watch a 3-hours-long opera in a seat that was built for the average milanese citizen of three centuries ago (160 cm). Or try to find normal clothes that can fit properly, not those designed for obese people only. Try driving 3000 km in a week like I did this summer while squeezing yourself in an old VW Polo when your measures are more fitting to a Volvo station wagon.

Being above-average tall isn't all that's cracked up to be.



I can give you Mr.Silvio Berlusconi, also called sometimes "the eight dwarf".

Also, many people hailing from richer families grow taller than their poorer counterparts because of better nutrition. And, of course, people with richer backgrounds tend to be more successful than people with poorer backgrounds (better schools, better living standards, better culture, better jobs).



When you're taller you have to look down to see other people's faces, you know. (The humouristic potential of english phrasal verbs is almost infinite).

I have the same problems that you do. Well, starting after breakfast. A simple act of choosing the right furniture, including tables with higher clearance, and lamps that hang from shorter chains circumvent most of my problems.
Remote Observer
04-09-2007, 17:17
If you love him, and he loves you, and he's not a dolt, a jerk, or a felon, he's gainfully employed and can fuck like there's no tomorrow, what's not to like?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
04-09-2007, 17:19
Being above-average tall isn't all that's cracked up to be.
I think your life would be substantially imporved if you just gave up and started wearing a helmet.
Aegis Firestorm
04-09-2007, 17:31
I like to date women that are about 4 to 6 inches shorter than me. That way, when she's bent over the back of the couch, she's still at the perfect height while she's wearing high heels.
Law Abiding Criminals
04-09-2007, 18:59
At the risk of sounding sexist, I am going to come out and say something that seems to go counter to the theme of this thread.

I can't imagine that I would ever date a woman who was taller than me.

There are very good reasons for that. I would feel odd. I would be stared at even more than usual.

But mostly, it's because I stand 6'4", and women taller than me are few and far between. I would pretty much have to hit on the entire WNBA, and even then, most women are shorter than me.

Besides, as the forum's resident chubby chaser now that we don't hear much from Letila, dating someone both taller and heavier than me would be intimidating.
Trotskylvania
04-09-2007, 21:48
If a man is taller than his partner, the children will tend to be taller than their parents, if it's the other way round, the children will be smaller than their parents.

If you want midgets for kids then there shouldn't be a problem but perhaps ask your friend how he likes being so small and it may mean you think twice about the matter.

It's because you're tall that you don't care, but your children will.

Actually, if the man is shorter the daughters will be shorter and if the woman is shorter the sons will be shorter generally...

And are you basically suggesting that my friend not have kids at all to prevent from passing on his "short-ness"?

Uh, no. It's a freaking roll of the dice, guys, and there really is no rhyme or reason to it. My dad is short (5'5"), and my mom is taller than him (5'7"). I'm about 5'11" and not quite done growing yet, and my little brother is over 6' tall. One of my sisters is going to be about 5'8", and the other will be about 5'6".

It's just how the genes mix up, and either way it is no reason for people to not date each other.
Isidoor
04-09-2007, 21:56
So I was away for this school dealy and I met this guy. I thought he was rather cute and he apparently felt the same about me so we had a bit of a fling, I'm not sure if anything will come of it due to distance issues, but leaving that aside... while we were there, we would walk around holding hands and the like and we encountered a couple on the beach with their son who insisted that we come have a drink with them. So we did and we talked to them and they told me that the guy I was with was too short for me (I'm 5'8" and he's ~5'3"-5'4"-ish). Now height isn't a big issue with me, but I've had male friends who won't date girls taller than they are, and combined with the sort of reaction from the beach people, I really wonder why some people seem to think that taller women can't go out with shorter men?


I'm quite tall and when I meet a girl that's taller than me (which almost never happens) or a girl that wears extremely high heels and already is quite tall (which happened a short while ago) I'm quite intimidated, it almost never happens, but I don't really think I could date a girl taller than me (but yeah, I don't think I know taller girls, so that's not really a problem).
I don't really care what other people do though.
Batuni
04-09-2007, 22:06
If a man is taller than his partner, the children will tend to be taller than their parents, if it's the other way round, the children will be smaller than their parents.

If you want midgets for kids then there shouldn't be a problem but perhaps ask your friend how he likes being so small and it may mean you think twice about the matter.

It's because you're tall that you don't care, but your children will.

Y'what?

My Dad's 5' 10" (ish)
My Mam's 5' 2"

My Older Bro is 5' 6"
I'm 5'5"
My Sister is 5' 3.5"
My Younger Bro is 5' 7"

As you can see, not one of us is either taller than both parents (or the taller), or shorter than both parents (or the shorter). Perhaps apocryphal evidence has no place in sensible conversation?

As to the OP's question, no clue, as I have no problems myself with taller women. :D
Of course, perhaps some men might feel intimidated, and maybe women might feel more protected with a male larger than themselves, but I've never liked enforcing / encouraging gender roles. Hrrmm.

EDIT: My humble advice is, Please yourself, and your partner. Everyone else can go and screw themselves ;)
CanuckHeaven
04-09-2007, 22:47
All I can add:

Randy Newman Short People (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt3sH5J4cxs)
Myrmidonisia
04-09-2007, 22:58
That's the spirit! Also, there are some very interesting things that can be done with women, without any need to stand and compare heights... *stops before going X-rated*
I remember this scene from "Hair", maybe, where the man and woman on stage were comparing sizes...
New Stalinberg
04-09-2007, 23:22
I'm 5'3" and I'd never date a girl that's taller than me.
Forsakia
04-09-2007, 23:28
If the man is shorter than the woman, it becomes too obvious when he's staring at her breasts for their to be a lasting relationship.
King Arthur the Great
04-09-2007, 23:30
If the man is shorter than the woman, it becomes too obvious when he's staring at her breasts for their to be a lasting relationship.

And that is why guys love girls shorter than them. Staring at her eyes, or her cleavage? When the guy is taller, and they're very close to each other, you can never really tell.
Potarius
04-09-2007, 23:39
I can give you my average day.

I wake up in a bed that is just 10 cm longer than me. No space for moving in the sleep.

I move on to prepare my breakfast, and usually hit some of the kitchen's furniture with my head. *bonk* "Holy ---- !!!!!!".

Then I sit down and of course I have to put my legs under my chair: if I try to sit properly, my knees scrape on the lower side of the table - after the first twenty trousers you ruin this way, it becomes slightly unnerving.

I step on the bus, and I cannot sit comfortabily on the seats, because they're made with "average height of adult male" standards of about 20 years ago (that is, 175 cm).

As I descent the stairs to the underground, I risk of scraping my precious scalp against the roof. Too low, again.

Then, the underground arrives, and I must remember to duck to avoid hitting the high side of the door. Max headroom 190 cm. Try and enter at the last moment, running to catch the train before it leaves, and *bonk* "Mother of ---- !!!!"

Go to La Scala theater and watch a 3-hours-long opera in a seat that was built for the average milanese citizen of three centuries ago (160 cm). Or try to find normal clothes that can fit properly, not those designed for obese people only. Try driving 3000 km in a week like I did this summer while squeezing yourself in an old VW Polo when your measures are more fitting to a Volvo station wagon.

Being above-average tall isn't all that's cracked up to be.



I can give you Mr.Silvio Berlusconi, also called sometimes "the eight dwarf".

Also, many people hailing from richer families grow taller than their poorer counterparts because of better nutrition. And, of course, people with richer backgrounds tend to be more successful than people with poorer backgrounds (better schools, better living standards, better culture, better jobs).



When you're taller you have to look down to see other people's faces, you know. (The humouristic potential of english phrasal verbs is almost infinite).

Meh, I'm 178cm (5'10"), and I have problems already... I'm not finished growing, either, judging by my genetic heritage. For starters, I don't have much room on normal mattresses, I can't fit on any toilet seat, most chairs are too small, and counters/sinks are a few inches too short.

Yeah, everything in America is made for an average height of around 5'6", unless you hit up a specialty store and pay out the ass for custom furniture and whatnot. I have a friend who's 193cm (almost 6'4"), and he has a lot of problems that he doesn't much feel like talking about.

While being taller than average has its benefits, it comes with some major downfalls.
Verdigroth
04-09-2007, 23:40
I like shorter girls but at 6' I don't encounter many taller than myself. That being said I almost dated a woman who was 6' 2". Didn't work out though...no chemistry...cest la vie
The Blaatschapen
05-09-2007, 00:34
I don't really care, I've dated girls taller than me(about 10cm taller) and way shorter than me(20~30cm). And both can be very nice ;)
Rasselas
05-09-2007, 00:57
I've never dated a guy shorter than me, but at 5ft 3 I don't meet many that are. I don't see a problem with it though, the only people that have problems with it are ones you shouldn't be listening to in the first place.
Arktalas
05-09-2007, 01:27
I'm really short and always prefer dating really tall guys. I thought it interesting the genetical side of this as so many people seemed to have opinions on how high your kids would be.
At the end of the day if you love each other enough, who cares, be happy and confident in yourselves.
As far as kids, I have found that generally kids actually take after your parents (their grand-parents). And you love your kids no matter how high they turn out, cause they are your kids!
JuNii
05-09-2007, 01:40
I wouldn't care if she's taller or shorter than me.
Nadkor
05-09-2007, 03:56
I prefer a guy to be taller than me, but at 5'10"/11" it gets difficult.
King Arthur the Great
05-09-2007, 04:31
I prefer a guy to be taller than me, but at 5'10"/11" it gets difficult.

Difficult, but not impossible. As opposed to a couple of girls I know that are 6'3," you actually have a decent chance at getting a guy taller than you. Not me, though. At 6'4-ish," I am tall, uncoordinated, and not stereotypical. And apparently silent.

*Shouts: For the last time, no, I did not play basketball or football.*
(That was said a lot.)
Silliopolous
05-09-2007, 04:35
Dear me - if short guys couldn't date taller women then Tom Cruise would never have got laid at all!!!


Actually, that might have been a good thing.


Hmmm, I need a better example..........................:p
The Black Forrest
05-09-2007, 04:49
I like women tall and small.

My wife is 6'2'' and I am 5'10''

Some guys are bothered by tall women. I guess they don't feel "manly" around them on some instinct level?
Nadkor
05-09-2007, 04:55
Difficult, but not impossible. As opposed to a couple of girls I know that are 6'3," you actually have a decent chance at getting a guy taller than you. Not me, though. At 6'4-ish," I am tall, uncoordinated, and not stereotypical. And apparently silent.

*Shouts: For the last time, no, I did not play basketball or football.*
(That was said a lot.)

You know girls who are 6'3"?

And I thought I was tall...
Sessboodeedwilla
05-09-2007, 05:22
First you'll have to explain the meaning behind your sentence because it does fill me with great confusion :)

Hot women don't care about independence, because unlike fat and fugly fives, they have the male world at their feet. So because of that, they sell to the highest bidder, not look to gain separation for want of independence
Barringtonia
05-09-2007, 05:35
Uh, no. It's a freaking roll of the dice, guys, and there really is no rhyme or reason to it.

Perhaps apocryphal evidence has no place in sensible conversation?

Perhaps an inability to read the thread doesn't either?

Hot women don't care about independence, because unlike fat and fugly fives, they have the male world at their feet. So because of that, they sell to the highest bidder, not look to gain separation for want of independence

You must be a sociologist.
Posi
05-09-2007, 05:42
I like tall chicks, and short chicks. Medium height chicks get no bonus points for height.

In India tall chicks are considered hot. I dunno why, maybe because they can reach the cookie jar, and not have to remove the man from the couch. I don't think many western men have thought about that -- all the inconveniences of short chicks. You also cannot take them on all the rides at the amusement park either. Things do not look good for them.
Barringtonia
05-09-2007, 05:46
Also, many people hailing from richer families grow taller than their poorer counterparts because of better nutrition. And, of course, people with richer backgrounds tend to be more successful than people with poorer backgrounds (better schools, better living standards, better culture, better jobs).

I sort of agree with this - actually, species tend towards gigantic-ism unless there's evolutionary pressure that keeps them small, such as food constraints or predators

Link (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/eden/giants.html)

I haven't read through that to see if it fully agrees with me - I might do so later and edit my post if I'm wrong.
Risottia
05-09-2007, 10:02
I have the same problems that you do. Well, starting after breakfast. A simple act of choosing the right furniture, including tables with higher clearance, and lamps that hang from shorter chains circumvent most of my problems.

1.Furniture = Lots of €. Also, they were my grandparents', so I'm quite sentimental towards them. Same goes for car (7000 € for a low-cost utility car is a lot of money).

2.Anyway, most of my problems are in public spaces, like buses, theatres etc. or anyway with what is considered to be the "standard" height - like when buying clothes.
Ilie
05-09-2007, 17:40
Sadly, as a kind of tall girl (5'9", so not much taller than you Dakini) I do prefer dating guys my height or taller. I have dated guys shorter than me, and I'm sure it's because they were just generally jackasses, but it ALWAYS became sort of an issue. Like, shorter guys will try to bully you to show you (and everbody else) who's the boss in the relationship, kind of a Napoleon complex thing.
Dinaverg
05-09-2007, 18:07
I actually hear a lot of "No, I don't want a short guy". *shrug* Straaaangeness.

I prefer a guy to be taller than me, but at 5'10"/11" it gets difficult.

*cough*
The Tribes Of Longton
05-09-2007, 18:30
A good friend of mine is only 5'5" and he's never had any trouble with taller women. In fact, quite the opposite, they seem to think he's cute or something.

Git.
King Arthur the Great
05-09-2007, 20:42
You know girls who are 6'3"?

And I thought I was tall...

She, however (and unlike me), does play basketball. And she'll probably be attending college on a basetball scholarship in a couple of years. Nice girl, though it's genetic (she's got sisters at 5'11" and 6'1," and a brother at 6'8").
Soviestan
05-09-2007, 20:49
I don't think I'd feel comfortable dating a taller women.
The Tribes Of Longton
05-09-2007, 20:51
I don't think I'd feel comfortable dating a taller women.How tall are you?
Greater Trostia
05-09-2007, 21:00
I wouldn't mind a taller girl, in principle. I mean then I'd have an excuse for always staring at her tits.
Persistencia
05-09-2007, 21:14
I'm 5'2" and the only boys shorter than me that I know are younger than me.

Here's something like the height thing - what do people think about the boy being younger than the girl in the relationship? I'm kinda old fashioned, I like being the smaller one, and the younger one.
Verdigroth
05-09-2007, 21:14
this thread needs music....cue the music maestro...

don't want, don't want no short, short man, teeny weeny itty bitty short, short man...(don't know the rest of the lyrics...sorry)
Verdigroth
05-09-2007, 21:15
I'm 5'2" and the only boys shorter than me that I know are younger than me.

Here's something like the height thing - what do people think about the boy being younger than the girl in the relationship? I'm kinda old fashioned, I like being the smaller one, and the younger one.

age matters not as long as she has a smoken bod;) actually age doesn't bother me near as much as height...*shrug*
Soviestan
05-09-2007, 21:17
How tall are you?

I'm 5'8. Not tall, but not exactly short either.
Dinaverg
05-09-2007, 21:33
I'm 5'8. Not tall, but not exactly short either.

We call that average, buddy.

what do people think about the boy being younger than the girl in the relationship?

I've been known (not really) to vary. Nadkor knows what I mean. ;)
Soviestan
05-09-2007, 21:34
We call that average, buddy.



who's we? I call that the sexy height.
Intangelon
05-09-2007, 22:14
I'm only 6 feet tall (182cm for the rest of the world), and I usually find myself with women 5' 6" or shorter. I have no problem with that, as I'm likely to respond well to any woman, regardless of height, who responds well to me. However, I'd love to date a woman closer to my own height or taller than me. I'd love to be able to dance or otherwise embrace without needing to bend over, and look her in the eyes without looking down.

Again, I'm pleased with any feminine companionship I'm lucky enough to earn, but to be even luckier to meet someone tall who digs me, well, that'd be the wasp's nipples.
The Tribes Of Longton
06-09-2007, 00:28
I wouldn't mind a taller girl, in principle. I mean then I'd have an excuse for always staring at her tits.
Burying your head in them is more fun. Practice the line "oh, I tripped!"
I'm 5'8. Not tall, but not exactly short either.Then you'll more often meet short girls than tall, so sayeth the laws of Gaussian distribution.

And 5'10" is the sexy height. :cool:
The Blaatschapen
06-09-2007, 00:40
And 5'10" is the sexy height. :cool:

So true :cool:
Dakini
06-09-2007, 15:17
Never tried to (I would look more stupid than gay) but I get from my female aquaintances that:

wearing high heels all the time will deform your feet, expecially if you're overweight

wearing high heels occasionally won't give you the time to learn to walk properly with them

So, I'd say that high heels (by "high" I mean more than 6-8 cm, that is) aren't a good idea.
Psh, I'm one of the most poorly coordinated people ever and I wear heels occasionally and can walk in them fine.
Dakini
06-09-2007, 15:20
Short muscular guys look like D-List Batman villains. Especially when they wear sleeveless shirts.
I think my definition of "more muscly" might be different than yours.
Dakini
06-09-2007, 15:27
If you love him, and he loves you, and he's not a dolt, a jerk, or a felon, he's gainfully employed and can fuck like there's no tomorrow, what's not to like?
uh... we spent a week together, I'm not going about with such strong words as love at this point. We also live several hours away from each other. This is definitely the bigger problem in a relationship than height differences.
Dakini
06-09-2007, 15:30
I don't know why but aren't there even statistics to show that tall people earn more on average than smaller people or something?
And if I recall correctly, tall women are less likely to enter successful marriages than short women. Though I think that this starts to apply for women a fair bit taller than me (hopefully).
Dakini
06-09-2007, 15:35
Hot women don't care about independence, because unlike fat and fugly fives, they have the male world at their feet. So because of that, they sell to the highest bidder, not look to gain separation for want of independence
I don't "sell to the highest bidder" hell, I've only dated one guy who even had enough money to have a car.
Dakini
06-09-2007, 15:41
Sadly, as a kind of tall girl (5'9", so not much taller than you Dakini) I do prefer dating guys my height or taller. I have dated guys shorter than me, and I'm sure it's because they were just generally jackasses, but it ALWAYS became sort of an issue. Like, shorter guys will try to bully you to show you (and everbody else) who's the boss in the relationship, kind of a Napoleon complex thing.
I've never had that problem when I've dated shorter guys before.
Poliwanacraca
06-09-2007, 17:48
It's because you're tall that you don't care, but your children will.

Yeah, 'cause I really agonize over being short every day. Yup. I cry myself to sleep at night, saying, "Oh, God, why did I have to be short? Oh, I'm such a horrible freak!" Sometimes I wish I had a rack to put myself on, just so that I might be spared the incredible, unendurable agony of not always being able to reach things on the top shelf. That's exactly what I do. Uh-huh.

...anyway, I tend to find guys who are a little but not a lot taller than I am most attractive, but I can't imagine ruling out dating a guy simply because he deviated from my preferred height range in either direction. (And, honestly, I suspect I'd find a guy a foot taller than me less appealing than a guy several inches shorter than me. I don't like having to wrench my neck just to talk to someone.)
Richolme
06-09-2007, 18:10
Ok, without reading any (ok, many) of the previous replies)

, I really wonder why some people seem to think that taller women can't go out with shorter men?


Some people think this because a lot of people are morons. And then there's social pressure to be like everyone else. And everyone elses boyfriend is taller.

Why don't you live like everyone else? Don't you *want* to live like everyone else?

Anyhow, when you're lying down height won't matter... Or so I've been told. I've really only ever dated a taller girl once, and it never reached a lying down stage. (There aren't a lot of girls taller than me out there in the first place)
Ra-Horakty
06-09-2007, 18:13
I really wonder why some people seem to think that taller women can't go out with shorter men?

No idea, but if that's a rule of thumb then this 5'7 midget is screwed! (NOT literally, literally! Eh?)
Ten-Thousand Worlds
06-09-2007, 18:18
It doesn't bother me any.
It's just society today has gotten used to the "tall guy, short girl" thing, I suppose.
I myself wouldn't go out with a girl that was taller than me, but I'm about 6'4" and I still have growing to do =P
So it's all good on my end.
L-rouge
07-09-2007, 18:05
No idea, but if that's a rule of thumb then this 5'7 midget is screwed! (NOT literally, literally! Eh?)

How is being 5'7" "midget"?