How China negotiates with kidnappers...
Knootian East Indies
03-09-2007, 09:38
Thought this might be entertaining...
Clicky clicky! (http://www.rense.com/general78/howchina.htm)
*smirk*
Knootian East Indies
03-09-2007, 09:47
"I have 3 demands or I'll kill the boy!"
http://www.rense.com/general78/A.jpeg
Negotiators assess the situation from next door.
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Head Negotiator dispatched
http://www.rense.com/general78/c.jpeg
Negotiations begin
http://www.rense.com/general78/d.jpeg
Negotiations concluded
http://www.rense.com/general78/e.jpeg
Dundee-Fienn
03-09-2007, 09:57
Looks like someone needs to go back to negotiator school.
Turquoise Days
03-09-2007, 10:11
That guy could easily have taken the kid with him as he fell.
Non Aligned States
03-09-2007, 10:15
Anyone notice that the guy had time to cut his hair, change his shirt, have a rope tied around his waist between the beginning and end of the negotiations?
Oh, and get a tan too.
Australiasiaville
03-09-2007, 10:29
What kind of sick fuck would find that entertaining?
Andaras Prime
03-09-2007, 10:32
pwned
Demented Hamsters
03-09-2007, 10:48
What kind of sick fuck would find that entertaining?
stick around, I'm certain a few will pop up here making broad (and irrational) statements about how 'effective' that would be in reducing crime.
And I know for a fact that if the guy who got shot was a Muslim, at least one regular NS'er would cream his trousers at the final two pics.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-09-2007, 10:53
All he wanted were tacos, beer and some porno magazines. :(
Rotovia-
03-09-2007, 10:57
I don't know where to begin...
Rotovia-
03-09-2007, 11:00
pwned
The kid is probally deaf now because of that
GreaterPacificNations
03-09-2007, 17:49
I love china.
"China isn't fair. China is in charge."
I also love how the PRC deals with foreign 'accountability' regarding their less palatable activities: *looks blankly at journalist for a second* "STFU"*Leaves. If journalist was chinese, they vanish a week later and three rich western terminally ill patients receive organs*
[NS]Click Stand
03-09-2007, 18:12
A real negotiator would try to avoid gunfire at all costs and instead try to blow up the building.
Greater Trostia
03-09-2007, 18:26
Click Stand;13022202']A real negotiator would try to avoid gunfire at all costs and instead try to blow up the building.
After several increasingly climactic and elaborate hand-to-hand combat scenes with either a progressive series of bad guys or the same bad guy with a progressive series of worsening hair-do.
Click Stand;13022202']A real negotiator would try to avoid gunfire at all costs and instead try to blow up the building.
I dunno. Bullets are cheaper and there's less clean-up. Just getting the kid and scraping that guy off the ground and into a bucket.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-09-2007, 18:43
After several increasingly climactic and elaborate hand-to-hand combat scenes with either a progressive series of bad guys or the same bad guy with a progressive series of worsening hair-do.
Surely that goes without saying.
Markeliopia
03-09-2007, 18:52
What kind of sick fuck would find that entertaining?
I thought it was entertaining, am I a bad person :(
CoallitionOfTheWilling
03-09-2007, 19:05
The kid is probally deaf now because of that
lol.
Does a person firing a gun make them deaf? No. So how would the kid which is farther away be deaf?
[NS]Click Stand
03-09-2007, 19:08
lol.
Does a person firing a gun make them deaf? No. So how would the kid which is farther away be deaf?
his ears aren't trained enough.
I propose an ear training center for children.
Anyone notice that the guy had time to cut his hair, change his shirt, have a rope tied around his waist between the beginning and end of the negotiations?
Oh, and get a tan too.
Hmm I noticed that too.
It looks shopped to me.....
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-09-2007, 19:54
Worst negotiator ever.
How do you know that wasn't one of the guys demands?
Splintered Yootopia
03-09-2007, 19:58
Oh, awesome. Not only does the kid have the trauma of being kidnapped, he just totally had someone shot in the head behind him. Great. Nice one there, the PRC.
How do you know that wasn't one of the guys demands?
Even so, I stand by my statement. Negotiators are meant top convince the hostage takers to give up without giving into any of their (serious) demnads.
I wonder if this was foretold in the Bayeux Tapestry (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Bayeux_Tapestry).
Pwnage.
New Stalinberg
04-09-2007, 01:21
Anyone notice that the guy had time to cut his hair, change his shirt, have a rope tied around his waist between the beginning and end of the negotiations?
Oh, and get a tan too.
One was the negotiator, the other was the cop.
Non Aligned States
04-09-2007, 01:47
One was the negotiator, the other was the cop.
So they pulled a switch in mid-negotiations? Wow. That's a pretty fast if the hostage taker didn't notice.
Or maybe he was just too stoned to notice.
Barringtonia
04-09-2007, 02:32
Surprisingly this one is true.
The facts (http://www.snopes.com/photos/crime/negotiation.asp)
The guy was actually found alive, something they only noticed as they were about to cremate his body
It looks shopped to me.....Es, bae.
GreaterPacificNations
04-09-2007, 03:10
Well Barringtonia's link sorts a few things out. The head negotiator actually spent 2 hours talking to this guy, before he finally felt he was getting to dangerous to negotiate with. A precautionary mat was placed below the window, and an officer was sent to place a bullet into the hostage taker- which as we can see, he did. The children were both evacuated safely, and even the hostage taker somehow survived, it seems.
His demand was $300USD (for a ticket home to Shandong province) and a gun.
Non Aligned States
04-09-2007, 03:40
Interesting that they didn't know the hostage taker was alive before they were about to cremate him though. Didn't they do a basic pulse check?
The_pantless_hero
04-09-2007, 03:49
Interesting that they didn't know the hostage taker was alive before they were about to cremate him though. Didn't they do a basic pulse check?
In China? What the fuck would they do that for? You break the law, you fucking die.
Non Aligned States
04-09-2007, 03:55
In China? What the fuck would they do that for? You break the law, you fucking die.
To make sure that you stay dead? You don't suddenly drop dead the moment you pickpocket someone in China.
Would be the perfect crime prevention system though.
Daistallia 2104
04-09-2007, 05:36
Well Barringtonia's link sorts a few things out. The head negotiator actually spent 2 hours talking to this guy, before he finally felt he was getting to dangerous to negotiate with. A precautionary mat was placed below the window, and an officer was sent to place a bullet into the hostage taker- which as we can see, he did. The children were both evacuated safely, and even the hostage taker somehow survived, it seems.
His demand was $300USD (for a ticket home to Shandong province) and a gun.
And here's the news article:
Hostage taker gets shot
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A man armed with two kitchen knives bargains with police after he took two children hostage in a fifth-floor classroom of a children's center in Shijiazhuang, Hebei Province August 17, 2004. Patrol police, SWAT team and firefighters rushed to the site for rescue operations. After a two-hour negotiation, police had to shoot the kidnapper when he was on the verge of hurting the hostage children. The two children were rescued unhurt and the kidnapper, identified as Zhang Kailin and in his 30s, fell to the ground and was rushed to hospital for treatment. It is reported Zhang, from southwest China's Guizhou Province, asked for 2,500 yuan [US$300] as travel expenses to see his relatives in Shandong, and later demanded for a gun and took one of the hostages with him. The case is still under further investigation. (Yanzhao Metropolis Daily)
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200408/18/eng20040818_153625.html
And the news on the survival:
■ China
`Dead' kidnapper returns
A man who was shot by police after kidnapping two children and shipped off to be cremated was found to be alive by funeral workers who heard him groan, state media and local officials said yesterday. Zhang Kailin, 36, was shot at point-blank range and fell to the ground from a five-storey window ledge after a tense two-hour standoff at a school in Hebei province on Tuesday, a paper said. He had taken two children hostage and demanded a 2,500 yuan (US$300) ransom before police moved in. The paper said his body was put in a coffin and taken to a funeral home, but workers heard a groan on opening the coffin and were shocked to find the man still alive.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2004/08/20/2003199470
Interesting that they didn't know the hostage taker was alive before they were about to cremate him though. Didn't they do a basic pulse check?
It happens, even in the US.
Non Aligned States
04-09-2007, 05:50
It happens, even in the US.
*scribbles not never to get injured and fall unconscious anywhere public*
Pyschotika
04-09-2007, 07:49
Sorry, I must be a sick...twisted individual but...
I don't think I've been entertained so swell in quite awhile.
Verdict? China rules.
Es, bae.
No idea what that means. However the story appears to be true. I therefore blame the intarweb for giving me a suspcious mind.