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http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/20/linux-a-european-threat-to-our-computers-by-tristan.aspx

Your wtf of the day. Feel free to act as outraged as you please, but don't start a forum fire or I'll call the mods. This is Johnny B Goode, signing off.

Umm, that's capitalism for you. Someone decided to do something for free and now you're complaining. Get over it. If you have ideological differences, don't use. Encourage other people to not use it, but that's just how it goes in our global, capitalist economy: companies and products rise and fall.

PS - If there were as large a security problem with it as she says, then I'm sure it would be a lot less common.

Introducing a foreign product like Linux which is often copied for free

Windows is also often copied for free, so what's the difference :p

But yes, it's true, we Europeans are out to take over the world! :D (again :p)

I await the day this person starts going "Oxygen produced in American forests should be paid for."

And then someone will point out that the majority of heavy forest/jungle areas are outside of America and then we'll see some asplosions.

lol, microsoft, superior...

...I only use it because I'm lazy. I'd switch to Linux in a heartbeat.

Not to mention, the Freedom Blog obviously doesn't know that most banks, defense networks, etc... all use their own personalized computer systems.

This is Johnny B Goode, signing off.

...

Never say that again.

Not to mention, the Freedom Blog obviously doesn't know that most banks, defense networks, etc... all use their own personalized computer systems.

Only because reality has a liberal bias.

You know, that has the makings of an interesting caption. A photo of a person over a very deep pit in the process of falling in it. On the top of the image. "Reality"

At the bottom "Has a liberal Bias"

lol, microsoft, superior...

...I only use it because I'm lazy. I'd switch to Linux in a heartbeat.

Not to mention, the Freedom Blog obviously doesn't know that most banks, defense networks, etc... all use their own personalized computer systems.

I tried switching to Linux. Advice for all newbies: Don't touch Gentoo.

...

Never say that again.

Why not? :(

Best part of that website:
http://shelleytherepublican.com/uploaded_images/raptureAdvisory_small.jpeg (http://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html)

I do believe, after some reading, that STR is probably sarcastic.

I do believe, after some reading, that STR is probably sarcastic.

Agreed.

I do believe, after some reading, that STR is probably sarcastic.

Ah yep. Just check out Billy Bob Neck for President. It's sarcastic.

A generation of computer users might get use to accepting foreign software hand-outs rather than paying for a superior American products.

Yeah, right, because I'd so much rather do data reduction on a windows machine. :rolleyes:

Although I get the feeling that it's a joke... I mean:

And guess what software Osama Bin Laden uses on his laptop?

I await the day this person starts going "Oxygen produced in American forests should be paid for."
Shut the fuck up; you'll give them ideas.

I tried switching to Linux. Advice for all newbies: Don't touch Gentoo.
A friend of mine's first linux install was gentoo. On a mac laptop.

It took him a week to get the thing running and at least a couple days to get his wireless working after that. I think he's still working out all the bugs.

A friend of mine's first linux install was gentoo. On a mac laptop.

It took him a week to get the thing running and at least a couple days to get his wireless working after that. I think he's still working out all the bugs.

Jesus. Gentoo on a laptop? I commend him.

Jesus. Gentoo on a laptop? I commend him.
Not just a laptop, a mac laptop, which apparently makes the install even harder.
Yeah, he went pretty hardcore with that one.

I'm thinking of dual-booting my computer with debian, I don't think I can get rid of windows just because there are some compatibility issues. I would if every other computer used open office though. :p

I'll use Linux when I can play all my games and use Visual Basic on it.

I'll use Linux when I can play all my games and use Visual Basic on it.
That's what dual booting is for, linux for everyday, windows for the programs that linux can't run. :)

That's what dual booting is for, linux for everyday, windows for the programs that linux can't run. :)

Come on, my computer takes an hour and a half to boot up. I'm not going to play a game, and then restart when I'm finished and want to browse the 'Net.

I can't see any reason why an end user, a personal user or business, would want to use Linux. It's fine for networking, but beyond that...

I do believe, after some reading, that STR is probably sarcastic.

Yeah,. I think the biggest clue is this...

Indeed, Linux is so pervasive amongst the blue states and many liberal universities that a leading computer expert Steve Balmer (from Microsoft) described Linux as cancer.

Come on, my computer takes an hour and a half to boot up. I'm not going to play a game, and then restart when I'm finished and want to browse the 'Net.

I can't see any reason why an end user, a personal user or business, would want to use Linux. It's fine for networking, but beyond that...

VM ware. virtuallisation...

Come on, my computer takes an hour and a half to boot up. I'm not going to play a game, and then restart when I'm finished and want to browse the 'Net.
What the fuck is wrong with your computer? It takes mine like two minutes... I turn it on, go away to brush my teeth and I come back to everything being all set.

I can't see any reason why an end user, a personal user or business, would want to use Linux. It's fine for networking, but beyond that...
It's great for doing scientific work, for writing documents in LaTeX, consoles are just gorgeous little things, you can run most of the same programs (or ones that are similar enough that it doesn't make a difference... with the exception of games), it's more secure, you have more control and you don't have someone holding your hand throughout your entire computing experience.

Also, it's great if you're going to be doing any programming.

The terrorists have won! The have 'DoS'ed the STR website. :(

ROFLMAO

For example, this rugged IBM laptop

He commends IBM, and then mentions:

It’s a computer program that was initially developed in Finland as a means of circumventing valuable copyrights and patents owned by an American company called SCO Group.

HAHAHA. IBM is a huge supporter of Linux, and is the company that was accused of giving SCO coprighted source code to Linux.

the Linux project’s seductive Marxist ideology

HAHAHA! I am a Libertarian. I love GNU, Linux, BSD, and open source software. I hate Microsoft, copyrights, and patents.

A generation of computer users might get use to accepting foreign software hand-outs rather than paying for a superior American products.

Besides Windows being far inferior, this sounds like monopoly to me. A product can be provided for free, but it threatens a massive company. Linux is not a threat to Microsoft and competition is a necessary part of any free market. This guy seems anti-free market now.

Imagine if the State of the Union address were hacked because the TV station decided to save money by using Linux?

Only one OS is hacked more than GNU/Linux. It is... Windows!

Next time somebody asks you how Al Queda agents pay for their rifles and rocket launchers, you can tell them that foreign hackers make software called Linux which helps them steal from Americans.

Osama pirates DVDs in his spare time. Who knew?

If you see a company using Linux, it may be that they have not paid for this software. Report them to the Business Software Alliance who have the legal authority to inspect any company’s computers for illegal programs like Linux.

Oh no! They are stealing free software! Linux is illegal software, eh? I guess I am going to jail.

In fact it omits features that were standard in Windows back in 1998; For example Linux has no built-in anti-virus or anti-spyware software.

When did Windows ever have this?

There are no tools for common tasks like defragging a hard disk.

There are simple scripts for this, and Linux file systems don't get fragmented very easily. My computer running since March has no file system at even 5% fragmentation.

EDIT: Read the comments, they are hilarious! The guy says he would neveer host his site on linux. Then, a guy checks, and determines that this site is running linux 2.4. They then claim that a 'Russian hacker tool' is no proof. HA!

Sometimes I have to laugh at the extreme right wingers out there, even though I'm right wing.

Come on! Did anyone seriously get past the first paragraph and not realise this was satire?

Come on! Did anyone seriously get past the first paragraph and not realise this was satire?

The Steve Balmer thing and one of the comments made it painfully clear :p

Me, but I'm only fourteen, and have no knowledge of computers whatsoever.

Please forgive me.....!

Come on! Did anyone seriously get past the first paragraph and not realise this was satire?

Maybe, but the people who commented in support of the article? Not so much.

Come on! Did anyone seriously get past the first paragraph and not realise this was satire?
Most linux-nerds. They can't help it, though, they live their entire lives just wandering the Internets looking for some reason to declare a (sad) crusade on behalf of their obsession.

Also, it's great if you're going to be doing any programming.

Feh. All the Visual IDEs are on Windows, so, Windows it is.

Yeah, Shelley the Republican is satire. Though I think it's telling how often people mistake it for a genuine right-wing blog.

Most linux-nerds. They can't help it, though, they live their entire lives just wandering the Internets looking for some reason to declare a (sad) crusade on behalf of their obsession.

You gotta agree though....they seriously got suckered and so easily as well. The comments on the site that is.

So sincere! LOL

Feh. All the Visual IDEs are on Windows, so, Windows it is.
I like using text editors for programming...

Come on! Did anyone seriously get past the first paragraph and not realise this was satire?

My cynicism and misanthropy forced me to think it was true. Please forgive me. :(

They hate our lead in computing technology

Than they must reeeeaaaalllyyyy hate Taiwan, Korea, and Japan, because we don't even manufacture our own computer chips anymore.

something you may not have encountered, but might do some day.

Spelling/Grammer check is your friend Ms Republican Moron.

It’s a computer program that was initially developed in Finland as a means of circumventing valuable copyrights and patents owned by an American company called SCO Group.

No, it was developed to allow people who couldn't afford to pay the massive fees for the software, some fees reaching up into 500-1000

USD after all is said and done.

that a leading computer expert Steve Balmer (from Microsoft) described Linux as cancer.

Key words "(From Microsoft), not exactly an unbiased source.

superior American products.

Don't make me laugh, I'm an American and I don't drive American cars, don't buy American technology, etc. Heck, I don't even eat American food anymore, Homemade Chinese food 4tw.

If we allow this cancer into our networks, there is no knowing what the effect might

Some DoD Servers are run by Linux, Windows Server editions don't stand up too well against some hacker threats because it is so widespread, and frankly, aren't that good... Oh Ms. Smart-with-da-research Lady.

Imagine if the State of the Union address were hacked because the TV station decided to save money by using Linux?

Live Free or Die Hard is not a reference for real hacking threats, especially against Linux.

Osama uses Linux because he knows designed to counterfit DVDs, curcumventing the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, and defraud companies like Disney.

He probobly used it because its not as easy to track and open source, I doubt he was copying Disney DVD's while on the run.

illegal programs like Linux.

Huh? When the hell did Linux become Illegal? And chances are, if its a company, they bought actual licenses.


Finally, remember to include Linux users in your prayers tonight. As individuals we may not be able to change people’s minds, but the Bible teaches that God can make any sinner repent.

"GOD HATES LINUX LOLZ!", Little does she know that Bill Gates is the Devil, and Steve Jobs is the Stix boatman.



In the end she's a moron, Windows incorporates numerous Linux code snippets and kernels in its programs. Red Hat, and Google Linux are American Companies.





And now for the comments, as I do love reading what comes after the fact.


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Down With Linux April 26th, 2006 2:17 pm

We, of the Organization of Republican Grandfathers of America and Southern Mississippi, hereby state our approval of such articles.

It furthers to inform the misinformed on the dangers of the evil Satanic approach that They, the Linux community and Linus Torvalds [in particular] have partaken.

Only with Baby Jesus and God watching over us can WE, the informed few, assist the mASSES in finding the light of Windows.

Long live the Blue Screen and O.R.G.A.S.M!!!



Apple is a wannabe American company. The CEO, Steve Jobs, is makes big contributions to the DNC and the Communist Party USA.
You should inform yourself about this evil company.
And better don’t buy from them, because they are using your address for sending leftwing propaganda to you!

Shelley

^^ Ahem... And Right Wing Propaganda is OH SO MUCH BETTER! Thanks.

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666 April 26th, 2006 4:32 pm

As the Devil representative for this part of the net, I am disguted with you. The intrinsic evilness of Linux should have remained hidden until it was ready to be unleashed on the Christian folks. Who are you to undo years of patient satanic development ?



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Anonymous April 27th, 2006 4:28 am

Just to say, I’m glad other people are picking up on the insidious threat of Linux - would you believe that most of the people involved in the project are actually fairly naive and believe that actually they’re being altruistic in creating a free, stable, effective operating system?

A friend of mine installed Linux on his laptop recently, buying into the hype, and it actually caused his screen to slowly melt! The manufacturer have refused a refund, explaining that the video drivers in Linux are so poorly written that they cause the screen’s backlight to run at the power of an industrial laser - they said he was lucky not to have been burned!

Don’t listen to all the Linux-supporters above, they’re probably just pinko commies who eat babies for breakfast.

God bless America!


Industrial Laser! I MUST HAVE!!!!

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Minky Chunky April 27th, 2006 7:38 am

As a red-haired woman, I don’t understand computers. But I’ll tell you what I do understand, Righteous Indignation and Homosexuals.

Thankfully there are no red-haired homosexuals, which I believe is a blessing we should all be thankful for. Running around exposing their sinful genitals to our children, looking like a sleeping dormouse in a nest of straw.

Praise to The Truth!



And I bid you all farewell.

I tried switching to Linux. Advice for all newbies: Don't touch Gentoo.


*rofl*
sounds like you made a long, painful and fruitless attempt!

snipped for levity

:headbang:

:headbang:

I feel for you, some people just don't get irony.

*rofl*
sounds like you made a long, painful and fruitless attempt!

Tried it once. Took a few hours. Had to reinstall the system. Tried it again, got further, but I still had to restore the system. To get rid of the Linux partitions and give Windows some breathing room, I had format the HD and reinstall the system AGAIN. Oy vey.

Tried it once. Took a few hours. Had to reinstall the system. Tried it again, got further, but I still had to restore the system. To get rid of the Linux partitions and give Windows some breathing room, I had format the HD and reinstall the system AGAIN. Oy vey.
Ouch!

This just confirms that Gentoo is Linux for human beings with too much time on their hands ;)

I like using text editors for programming...

Lemme guess... PHP? Maybe Javascript?

Fortran mostly, I know/knew a bit of C as well (I should really take it up again I think).

Is Fortran now considered 'legacy'?

Did you every touch Algol?

Lemme guess... PHP? Maybe Javascript?
Fortran mostly, I know/knew a bit of C as well (I should really take it up again I think).

Ouch!

This just confirms that Gentoo is Linux for human beings with too much time on their hands ;)

I had the time. I just couldn't do it.

I had the time. I just couldn't do it.
You did not have the time to learn enough Unix and Linux to be considered a Guru by Ubuntu- and SuSE-Users. :) (nonexisting hell, it even was hard for me to install it, despite years of Linux experience!)

Tried it once. Took a few hours. Had to reinstall the system. Tried it again, got further, but I still had to restore the system. To get rid of the Linux partitions and give Windows some breathing room, I had format the HD and reinstall the system AGAIN. Oy vey.
I think my friend had to restart the whole installation process more than five times... it probably took him 40 hours total.

Fortran mostly, I know/knew a bit of C as well (I should really take it up again I think).

Well if ya want some room on a LINUX server just ask :) more then happy to make some dev room for ya

I think my friend had to restart the whole installation process more than five times... it probably took him 40 hours total.

Thats why Debian FTW ... 30 minuets no re-try's lol

Thats why Debian FTW ... 30 minuets no re-try's lol
or SuSE *grins, ducks, runs*

I'm sorry to have not realized that was satire, but I did look around the site, it seems fairly sincere. I looked at shelley's comments on some things, and she says she is serious. People made comments saying her satire was offensive and not funny, and she replied by saying that she isn't trying to be funny. I guess this could just be to make the satire seem more sincere.

Tried it once. Took a few hours. Had to reinstall the system. Tried it again, got further, but I still had to restore the system. To get rid of the Linux partitions and give Windows some breathing room, I had format the HD and reinstall the system AGAIN. Oy vey.

Yeah, Gentoo can be tough. I got it on my first try, but it was far from an ideal setup.

or SuSE *grins, ducks, runs*

Not much experience with it ... and have not tried in more then a year so could not argue with ya :)

Well if ya want some room on a LINUX server just ask :) more then happy to make some dev room for ya
I don't really know much about servers yet... and I'm not really sure I need much space, my programming tends to be for school so they give me enough room to play with (or should be giving me enough room, I haven't got my new computer all set up yet so I don't know how much room I'm getting).

Thats why Debian FTW ... 30 minuets no re-try's lol
Well, that's hopeful. I need to get somewhere to back up my files before I try dicking around with my OS though. I saw some sweet little external hard drives that I think I'll get once I have some money to replace my PSU and chassis (I figure the OS change can happen around that time too).

Well, that's hopeful. I need to get somewhere to back up my files before I try dicking around with my OS though. I saw some sweet little external hard drives that I think I'll get once I have some money to replace my PSU and chassis (I figure the OS change can happen around that time too).

Never a bad Idea ... I use my small formfactor externals all the time

You did not have the time to learn enough Unix and Linux to be considered a Guru by Ubuntu- and SuSE-Users. :) (nonexisting hell, it even was hard for me to install it, despite years of Linux experience!)

Yeah. I just learned what I had to, and did a pretty crappy job at that.

I think my friend had to restart the whole installation process more than five times... it probably took him 40 hours total.

Ow...But that's a pretty good job, considering it took less than three days.

Thats why Debian FTW ... 30 minuets no re-try's lol

Thirty minutes? You're kidding, right?

snip


Thirty minutes? You're kidding, right?

Depends on the internet connection I use the net bootable rather then the source ... I think my longest install was bordering on an hour

Ow...But that's a pretty good job, considering it took less than three days.
Well, it was actually five days. He only worked on it about 8 hours a day for a week instead of doing other work. At that point he didn't have his wireless (and a pile of other useful applications) working on the thing yet though, that took a while longer...

Feh. All the Visual IDEs are on Windows, so, Windows it is.

Eclipse runs on pretty much anything.

It would make as much sense as inviting the French to come over and take over the White-House.

Yay Xenophobia!

But seriously... what the fuck?

Yeah, Gentoo can be tough. I got it on my first try, but it was far from an ideal setup.

I had actually spent a few days collecting install guides for various things like Firefox, swfdec, libpng, X and GNOME, and printing the install section of the handbook. It sucked, because I had to lose it eventually. :(

Yeah, Gentoo can be tough. I got it on my first try, but it was far from an ideal setup.

I had actually spent a few days collecting install guides for various things like Firefox, swfdec, libpng, X and GNOME, and printing the install section of the handbook. It sucked, because I had to lose it eventually. :(

Depends on the internet connection I use the net bootable rather then the source ... I think my longest install was bordering on an hour

Wow, nice.

Well, it was actually five days. He only worked on it about 8 hours a day for a week instead of doing other work. At that point he didn't have his wireless (and a pile of other useful applications) working on the thing yet though, that took a while longer...

Is he a glutton for punishment or something? :p

Like most things that are worth owning, Computers are an American invention. Look at any modern computer and you will see that the whole thing is the product of American brilliance.

For example, this rugged IBM laptop I am using was designed and built by an American company. It runs software built by Microsoft, one of America’s most productive organizations. My computer does everything I could possibly want: I can do my work, submit my taxes and even search the Bible.

Like all the greatest American engineering, it’s an example of innovation that makes a growing group of European and Chinese hackers jealous. They hate our lead in computing technology and will stop at nothing until they have control of all of our computers.

I’m talking about a project called ‘Linux’, something you may not have encountered, but might do some day.
It’s a computer program that was initially developed in Finland as a means of circumventing valuable copyrights and patents owned by an American company called SCO Group.

Unlike Windows, which is a mature commercial product which is normally included with every new computer, Linux is given away. Now it may not sound like much of a problem, after all there is very little profit in merely giving a product away.

This would be certainly true were in not for the Linux project’s seductive Marxist ideology and the effect that it has on ‘Blue-State’ liberals. Indeed, Linux is so pervasive amongst the blue states and many liberal universities that a leading computer expert Steve Balmer (from Microsoft) described Linux as cancer.

The American software industry is worth more than $7 Billion; Introducing a foreign product like Linux which is often copied for free could threaten that entire industry. A generation of computer users might get use to accepting foreign software hand-outs rather than paying for a superior American products. If only the danger were just to our economy:

These days computers control everything from TV stations to battleships; Our crucial information and defense infrastructure is built on computer technology. If we allow this cancer into our networks, there is no knowing what the effect might be on our infrastructure, but that is just what liberals are trying to do.

Imagine if the State of the Union address were hacked because the TV station decided to save money by using Linux? Imagine if a stealth-bomber crashed because it’s software was written by anonymous Chinese or European hackers. It would make as much sense as inviting the French to come over and take over the White-House.

And guess what software Osama Bin Laden uses on his laptop?

If you guessed it was Linux you would be 100% right. Osama uses Linux because he knows designed to counterfit DVDs, curcumventing the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, and defraud companies like Disney.

Next time somebody asks you how Al Queda agents pay for their rifles and rocket launchers, you can tell them that foreign hackers make software called Linux which helps them steal from Americans.

This Linux problem is a growing issue, and one that conservative Americans cannot afford to ignore. Fortunately Microsoft have prepared a great deal of information to help computer users get away from this menace. But there is something you can do to help keep American #1 in the computer business:

If one of your friends is using Linux or may be tempted to try it show them this article. Explain that Linux is a genuine threat and that by using it they may be opening their computer to Chinese hackers.

If you see a company using Linux, it may be that they have not paid for this software. Report them to the Business Software Alliance who have the legal authority to inspect any company’s computers for illegal programs like Linux.

Finally, remember to include Linux users in your prayers tonight. As individuals we may not be able to change people’s minds, but the Bible teaches that God can make any sinner repent.

Tristan



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Thats the funniest thing I have read in a long fucking time. They actually beleive this bullshit they are writing? That makes it even funnier! Obviously this person has never used LINUX. Besides its endoresed by a penguin, penguins are cute and would never associate with those nasty communists or terroristsists.

Some people...

I'll put up a 5 to 1 spread that they hand out Chick tracts for halloween.

Depends on the internet connection I use the net bootable rather then the source ... I think my longest install was bordering on an hour

I installed from a netinst disc yesterday (replacing Ubuntu. I meant to go for Zenwalk, but .20 and later kernels won't talk to my CD drive, which makes it tricky to install). A couple hours or so, but it did spend a while waiting for input as I was eating, and I don't have that fast a connection.

Debian is highly recommended from this guy.

I installed from a netinst disc yesterday (replacing Ubuntu. I meant to go for Zenwalk, but .20 and later kernels won't talk to my CD drive, which makes it tricky to install). A couple hours or so, but it did spend a while waiting for input as I was eating, and I don't have that fast a connection.

Debian is highly recommended from this guy.
Yeah and you got to recognize even in your case it was only a couple of hours of UN ATTENDED time not like you were doing 3 hours of configuration you were just waiting for downloads

Thirty minutes? You're kidding, right?

He is not, he only has a much faster 'net connection than me! I think 1.5 hours was it for me.

http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/20/linux-a-european-threat-to-our-computers-by-tristan.aspx

Your wtf of the day. Feel free to act as outraged as you please, but don't start a forum fire or I'll call the mods. This is Johnny B Goode, signing off.

That's hilarious. "Osama Bin Laden gets his money from software piracy!" Just when I think conservatives have gotten as crazy as they possibly can, then comes "Linux supports terrorism."

And that's even if you aren't aware that linux is far more stable and, in her words, "mature," than windows.

Is he a glutton for punishment or something? :p
Nah, he just wanted a system that was highly customizable and that he'd learn a lot from installing. I mean, he could have just installed Ubuntu and been done with it.

That's hilarious. "Osama Bin Laden gets his money from software piracy!" Just when I think conservatives have gotten as crazy as they possibly can, then comes "Linux supports terrorism."

And that's even if you aren't aware that linux is far more stable and, in her words, "mature," than windows.

It's satire. But I didn't get it at first.

Nah, he just wanted a system that was highly customizable and that he'd learn a lot from installing. I mean, he could have just installed Ubuntu and been done with it.

I suppose so. You can do practically anything with Gentoo after all.

He is not, he only has a much faster 'net connection than me! I think 1.5 hours was it for me.

Cool. It'd work great for me, I got fast broadband.

lol, microsoft, superior...

...I only use it because I'm lazy. I'd switch to Linux in a heartbeat.

Not to mention, the Freedom Blog obviously doesn't know that most banks, defense networks, etc... all use their own personalized computer systems.

...

Never say that again.

Aye

I'll use Linux when I can play all my games and use Visual Basic on it.BASIC rots the mind, leaving its users useless in any further programming. I mean the lolcat society (lolciety) chose BASIC as the base for its programming language lolcode. What does that say about BASIC?

I like using text editors for programming...I like Eclipse.

or SuSE *grins, ducks, runs*It'd have to be an hour for Suse. The installer only takes 30 min, but the two boots take another half hour.

Thirty minutes? You're kidding, right?No, and most of that time is you just watching TV as it works. Configuration takes about ten minutes tops.

Very early on in its history, this site (ShelleyTheRepublican) did in fact reveal that it was a clever satire; it was advertising for potential writers. I think they have enough writers now (there are about 6 different conservative "people" that write blog entries) and so are understandably reluctant to reveal the hoax because it would ruin the wonderful flamebaiting effect it has on everyone that comes within several hundred internet-miles of it :rolleyes:
A look on archive.org should reveal the notice on the site or something.

Oh and use GNU/Linux everybody! Hooray for free-as-in-freedom software. (My personal favourite distribution is Fedora).

I can't see any reason why an end user, a personal user or business, would want to use Linux. It's fine for networking, but beyond that...

As a personal user, I find the selection of web (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox), e-mail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird), office software (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_office), graphics tools (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_gimp), multimedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xine) players (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarok_%28software%29), and a whole host of other software extremely useful.

I've attended classes for two years at a university that is a Microsoft shop, so spare me complaints about "compatability" or whatever else. The software above supports common formats (PDF, Microsoft Word and Excel documents, etc.) just fine, and so far no professor has asked "What software did you use?!?!?" as I've turned in a paper. :D

As far as games are concerned, one (http://www.flightgear.org/) just (http://torcs.sourceforge.net/) needs (http://vdrift.net/) to (http://www.s2games.com/savage/index.php) know (http://www.wesnoth.org/) where (http://www.happypenguin.org/) to look (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+games&btnG=Search).

As a personal user, I find the selection of web (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox), e-mail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird), office software (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_office), graphics tools (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_gimp), multimedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xine) players (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarok_%28software%29), and a whole host of other software extremely useful.

I've attended classes for two years at a university that is a Microsoft shop, so spare me complaints about "compatability" or whatever else. The software above supports common formats (PDF, Microsoft Word and Excel documents, etc.) just fine, and so far no professor has asked "What software did you use?!?!?" as I've turned in a paper. :D

As far as games are concerned, one (http://www.flightgear.org/) just (http://torcs.sourceforge.net/) needs (http://vdrift.net/) to (http://www.s2games.com/savage/index.php) know (http://www.wesnoth.org/) where (http://www.happypenguin.org/) to look (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+games&btnG=Search).Evolution pwns Thunderbird. The GIMP is awkward to use at first.

All the Visual IDEs are on Windows...

This is perhaps the strongest anti-Windows argument I've heard.

Evolution pwns Thunderbird.


:eek:

Dunno. I've never used Evolution.


The GIMP is awkward to use at first.


This is true (my complete lack of artistic skill doesn't help either).

I like Eclipse.
I've used emacs. I really want to learn to use vi as it looks sweet and totally awesome.

No, and most of that time is you just watching TV as it works. Configuration takes about ten minutes tops.

I have got to get Debian.

The GIMP is awkward to use at first.
I like The GIMP... though I don't know how to do much with it really. It's more that I haven't taken the time to do anything much apart from resizing and dicking around with colours.

As a personal user, I find the selection of web (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox), e-mail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird), office software (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_office), graphics tools (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_gimp), multimedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xine) players (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarok_%28software%29), and a whole host of other software extremely useful.

I've attended classes for two years at a university that is a Microsoft shop, so spare me complaints about "compatability" or whatever else. The software above supports common formats (PDF, Microsoft Word and Excel documents, etc.) just fine, and so far no professor has asked "What software did you use?!?!?" as I've turned in a paper. :D

As far as games are concerned, one (http://www.flightgear.org/) just (http://torcs.sourceforge.net/) needs (http://vdrift.net/) to (http://www.s2games.com/savage/index.php) know (http://www.wesnoth.org/) where (http://www.happypenguin.org/) to look (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+games&btnG=Search).I use a some of Linux-based software. Namely Firefox and Openoffice for Windows. But I still keep IE and MS Office handy. There are still compatibility issues occasionally. Not huge ones, just how one app will view something compared to the another. My main problem is that Firefox doesn't display my router's access/setup webpages. If I want to certain change settings on my router I have to use IE.

Yeah and you got to recognize even in your case it was only a couple of hours of UN ATTENDED time not like you were doing 3 hours of configuration you were just waiting for downloads

I know. I was just throwing that in as direct personal experience. Johnny, it really is 10-20 minutes of configuration, then watching a movie while it gets done. Nothing to it.

Edit: Dakini, I've used both Emacs and vi, and I've got to say I've ended up preferring Emacs. If I'm signed into a host on the other side of the world vi is overkill for anything I'm likely to be doing, while it feels too limited on my local machine. Your mileage may vary, of course.

I've attended classes for two years at a university that is a Microsoft shop, so spare me complaints about "compatability" or whatever else. The software above supports common formats (PDF, Microsoft Word and Excel documents, etc.) just fine, and so far no professor has asked "What software did you use?!?!?" as I've turned in a paper. :D
I've also used open office to open excel documents on computers at school running Mandriva and had the damn thing crash, so it's a bit of a concern.

But I still keep IE and MS Office handy. There are still compatibility issues occasionally. Not huge ones, just how one app will view something compared to the another.


There is the rare occasion when I have to submit an actual document file.

Usually I will save a document in a Microsoft format using OpenOffice and upload it to my disk space at school. Then when I'm in a computer lab, I open the file in Microsoft Word to check formatting and such. I've never had a problem.

Granted, I'm not usually adding pictures or sounds or similar to my documents. I have yet to find a useful reason to clutter a document with such junk, so I don't consider that a problem. PowerPoint-style presentation software use should be generally discouraged anyway; those adding tons of sounds and graphics to their presentations should be shot on sight. :D ( :headbang: )


My main problem is that Firefox doesn't display my router's access/setup webpages. If I want to certain change settings on my router I have to use IE.


I've never seen this problem. What's the manufacturer/brand? I want to be sure to avoid it.

I've noticed that OpenOffice begins to struggle when a spreadsheet becomes large. I've never seen it crash outright, but it has probably come real close. My computer's specs are quite modest; I suppose that doesn't help.
Nah, this was a huge spreadsheet, but the whole computer crashed, not just the program. I had to reboot. I didn't know that one could crash linux, but apparently I'm special like that.

As far as games are concerned, one (http://www.flightgear.org/) just (http://torcs.sourceforge.net/) needs (http://vdrift.net/) to (http://www.s2games.com/savage/index.php) know (http://www.wesnoth.org/) where (http://www.happypenguin.org/) to look (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+games&btnG=Search).

Good games is what he meant.

I've also used open office to open excel documents on computers at school running Mandriva and had the damn thing crash, so it's a bit of a concern.

I've noticed that OpenOffice begins to struggle when a spreadsheet becomes large. I've never seen it crash outright, but it has probably come real close. My computer's specs are quite modest; I suppose that doesn't help.

I've used emacs. I really want to learn to use vi as it looks sweet and totally awesome.
Vim is awesome. I use it to edite text files when gedit is not available.

Good games is what he meant.

My point was to demonstrate that there is a supply of games for Linux. Whether a particular game is "good" is, of course, up to the individual player.

Personally, I haven't had much interest in most of the games I've seen for Windows or Linux or anything else. I think "good" games are played around a table, not a keyboard.

Good games is what he meant.
Battle for Wesnoth is awesome. Absolutely awesome.

've never seen this problem. What's the manufacturer/brand? I want to be sure to avoid it.These people - http://www.dynamode.net/

Oddly enough, it's one of the best routers I've ever worked with. A very good layout that's easy and simple to use. It just doesn't work very well with firefox.

I can get the think up and running as a wireless switch in a minute or so, whereas with my other router, a Belkin (http://www.belkin.com/), I was sat around scratching my head for ages. It just tried to automatically do everything for you. Which is nice for most people, but not nice for what I wanted to do as there is no alternative manual setup.

Nah, this was a huge spreadsheet, but the whole computer crashed, not just the program. I had to reboot. I didn't know that one could crash linux, but apparently I'm special like that.

That's nothing. One time I somehow managed to use the "suspend" power feature to wipe out my linux drive's boot sector entirely.

These people - http://www.dynamode.net/

Oddly enough, it's one of the best routers I've ever worked with. A very good layout that's easy and simple to use. It just doesn't work very well with firefox.


I've only ever worked with Linksys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys) or D-Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Link). I've never had a major problem, but a relative of mine seems to have a knack for finding all of their defective hardware. Mileage will vary, I guess.

Ok. As a Finn, I must regrettably admit that the blogBitch has got it right. We manufactured Linus Torvalds in Baby Imfirmary #6 of Helsinki in order to totally destroy the American computer industry. Now that we've been caught, we'll probably take our communist spaceship from behind the barn and leave you all in the dust. So long, suckers!

Ok. As a Finn, I must regrettably admit that the blogBitch has got it right. We manufactured Linus Torvalds in Baby Imfirmary #6 of Helsinki in order to totally destroy the American computer industry. Now that we've been caught, we'll probably take our communist spaceship from behind the barn and leave you all in the dust. So long, suckers!

Don't forget your special agent clone (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Ilta_Sanomat_front_page_Conan_and_Tarja.gif) designed to infiltrate American Late Night television (http://www.nbc.com/Late_Night_with_Conan_O'Brien/index.shtml).

The Conspiracy is all around us.

I've only ever worked with Linksys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys) or D-Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Link). I've never had a major problem, but a relative of mine seems to have a knack for finding all of their defective hardware. Mileage will vary, I guess.I got very cheap. Cheap enough not be too bothered if it was a waste of money. *nod*

http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/20/linux-a-european-threat-to-our-computers-by-tristan.aspx

Your wtf of the day. Feel free to act as outraged as you please, but don't start a forum fire or I'll call the mods. This is Johnny B Goode, signing off.
That was one of the dumbest blog posts I've ever read. In fact, I think it was.

I'm surprised he didn't rant on Ubuntu. After all, it is the OS with the African/Arabic sounding name.

"If you use Ubuntu, the Terrorists win!"

I know. I was just throwing that in as direct personal experience. Johnny, it really is 10-20 minutes of configuration, then watching a movie while it gets done. Nothing to it.

Edit: Dakini, I've used both Emacs and vi, and I've got to say I've ended up preferring Emacs. If I'm signed into a host on the other side of the world vi is overkill for anything I'm likely to be doing, while it feels too limited on my local machine. Your mileage may vary, of course.

Those who can completely use VI are like gods when they are good but if they are not good it is comedic to watch

It is a powerful tool that can add a tone to your speed and accuracy or subtract like no tomorrow from it

Personally I not a giant programmer I am passable with VI but I normaly just go to nano or pico if avaliable

There is no way in hell that that article is anywhere near serious. Frankly, it was an excellent piece of trolling material...part of me wants to go post it on Digg and Slashdot for lulz, but I probably won't because I just don't fell like it.

Linux - Internet Hate Machine

Vetalia, it's already been on Slashdot. In fact, I read it there way before it came here.

Gauthier: http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/08/18/ubuntu-%E2%80%93-why-it-is-wrong-for-america.aspx

Have a laugh at that.

That's nothing. One time I somehow managed to use the "suspend" power feature to wipe out my linux drive's boot sector entirely.
Ouchies! How the hell do you fix that sort of problem?

Ouchies! How the hell do you fix that sort of problem?

Boot from a live CD and install a new boot manager. While switching distros recently, I learned to always make sure that the kernel you're going to be using will recognize your CD drive. Otherwise things can be problematic.

i really really, really really really have no idea what linux is
i guess i am one of those MS Windows brats who never got how computers really work

That's what dual booting is for, linux for everyday, windows for the programs that linux can't run. :)

No, that's where virtualization comes in handy.

Running linux under windows, that is :D

http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/20/linux-a-european-threat-to-our-computers-by-tristan.aspx

Your wtf of the day. Feel free to act as outraged as you please, but don't start a forum fire or I'll call the mods. This is Johnny B Goode, signing off.

oh now that's a good parody:p

it is a parody, right? *hopes*

edit:
There is no way in hell that that article is anywhere near serious. Frankly, it was an excellent piece of trolling material...part of me wants to go post it on Digg and Slashdot for lulz, but I probably won't because I just don't fell like it.
what he said...

I'm surprised he didn't rant on Ubuntu. After all, it is the OS with the African/Arabic sounding name.

"If you use Ubuntu, the Terrorists win!"

They did. (http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/08/18/ubuntu-%e2%80%93-why-it-is-wrong-for-america.aspx)

It's not as good, though. More obviously not serious.

That was one of the dumbest blog posts I've ever read. In fact, I think it was.

It's parody. But I didn't get it at first.

oh now that's a good parody:p

it is a parody, right? *hopes*

edit:

what he said...

Heh. It's awesome satire, though. Osama has Linux...lolz.

It's parody. But I didn't get it at first.



Heh. It's awesome satire, though. Osama has Linux...lolz.

its just so... dry :p

As a personal user, I find the selection of web (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox), e-mail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird), office software (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_office), graphics tools (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_gimp), multimedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xine) players (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarok_%28software%29), and a whole host of other software extremely useful.

I've attended classes for two years at a university that is a Microsoft shop, so spare me complaints about "compatability" or whatever else. The software above supports common formats (PDF, Microsoft Word and Excel documents, etc.) just fine, and so far no professor has asked "What software did you use?!?!?" as I've turned in a paper. :D

As far as games are concerned, one (http://www.flightgear.org/) just (http://torcs.sourceforge.net/) needs (http://vdrift.net/) to (http://www.s2games.com/savage/index.php) know (http://www.wesnoth.org/) where (http://www.happypenguin.org/) to look (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+games&btnG=Search).

Excellent list... I love how people always have Wesnoth in these lists...

Good games is what he meant.
Have you played them? There are some excellent games available, and the situation is only getting better. Install Dosbox and there's access to even more awesome games. I will concede that games are the one area Linux lacks, but it's not that bad anymore.

I'm not sure which is funnier, the original website or the fact that so many idiots on here thought it was real :D

I'm not sure which is funnier, the original website or the fact that so many idiots on here thought it was real :D

Or the fact that not only do people think it's real, but they don't read the thread before posting in it, so several pages in, after a number of people have stated quite clearly that it's satire, we still get people who think it's real.

So today's lesson is: Read the thread before posting in it.

Or the fact that not only do people think it's real, but they don't read the thread before posting in it, so several pages in, after a number of people have stated quite clearly that it's satire, we still get people who think it's real.

So today's lesson is: Read the thread before posting in it.

Yeah, that may be even better. :D

That "God's hit list" Is a DISGRACE to any Christian.

Or the fact that not only do people think it's real, but they don't read the thread before posting in it, so several pages in, after a number of people have stated quite clearly that it's satire, we still get people who think it's real.

So today's lesson is: Read the thread before posting in it.
Are you referring to me?

Are you referring to me?

Possibly, but not specifically. I don't recall (and don't care enough to go back and look) if you were one of those I was describing, but I wasn't picking you specifically as there were several people who did it.

Ouchies! How the hell do you fix that sort of problem?

Just completely reinstall the operating system, while making sure that the installer does not reformat or otherwise touch the /home partition.

Then place a post-it note on the screen which reads "DO NOT SUSPEND."

Just completely reinstall the operating system, while making sure that the installer does not reformat or otherwise touch the /home partition.

Then place a post-it note on the screen which reads "DO NOT SUSPEND."Using ATI or NVIDIA drivers?

Using ATI or NVIDIA drivers?

NVIDIA proprietary.

I thought I'd found a fix by enabling NvAGP in xorg.conf, but it didn't work.

NVIDIA proprietary.

I thought I'd found a fix by enabling NvAGP in xorg.conf, but it didn't work.Never heard of that fix, but it sounds shady. AFAIK, neither supports suspension properly. The libre drivers do.

Never heard of that fix, but it sounds shady. AFAIK, neither supports suspension properly. The libre drivers do.

Yeah, but I really enjoy having 3D. Last I heard, the free drivers only did 2D.

Yeah, but I really enjoy having 3D. Last I heard, the free drivers only did 2D.Yeah. But at least your free drivers are close to having usable 3D(ie can use AIGLX/Compiz).

ATI is nowheres near there and XGL is starting to break on allot of distros.

That blog is awesomeness.

Just the right blend of apparent sincerity and downright idiocy. Trolling par excellence...

Ubuntu (from the Swahili term meaning “We will rape your children”) is the very opposite of Redmond, WA’s awesome Vista Home Server operating systems. For example, Vista includes powerful blogging tools such as notepad.exe, which I sued to write this article. Last time I checked, Linix contained no equivalent of this versatile tool. While Vista is a slick, professional and scalable OS, Ubuntu is only kept ‘free’ by the judicious use of cheap, South African labor, often using intimidation, threats, and even outright violence to keep workers in line, slavishly marching towards the Ubuntu Management team’s brutal deadlines.

Damn, wheres that downloading communism pic when you need it...

Yeah, Shelley the Republican is satire. Though I think it's telling how often people mistake it for a genuine right-wing blog.

Yes, people are stupid. Especially socialists. :D

On a more serious note, I tried Kubuntu. And Knoppix. And S.u.S.E.

And I still came back to my Windows XP, which is legal and unpirated btw. :fluffle:

Yes, people are stupid. Especially socialists. :D

No, generally socialists are pretty intelligent people, mostly because you have to actually read Marx and Engels to know it, while conservatives can just say 'damn commiez!!!' and they pretty much qualify, so dealing with the typical IQ of conservatives us socialists have got used to a low standard.

Very early on in its history, this site (ShelleyTheRepublican) did in fact reveal that it was a clever satire; it was advertising for potential writers. I think they have enough writers now (there are about 6 different conservative "people" that write blog entries) and so are understandably reluctant to reveal the hoax because it would ruin the wonderful flamebaiting effect it has on everyone that comes within several hundred internet-miles of it :rolleyes:
A look on archive.org should reveal the notice on the site or something.

Oh and use GNU/Linux everybody! Hooray for free-as-in-freedom software. (My personal favourite distribution is Fedora).

I remember when the site was first getting started. Haven't been there in forever, I honestly didn't expect the joke to last this long but I'm glad it did, this is some quality comedy.

No, generally socialists are pretty intelligent people, mostly because you have to actually read Marx and Engels to know it,...


This being critical for knowing what not to do during the processing of creating a socialist society. :D (but mostly :p)

The only people who complain about Linux are:
1) Competing businesses and industries
And
2) People who choose one that's too complicated, feel overwhelmed and delete it out of confusion

No, generally socialists are pretty intelligent people, mostly because you have to actually read Marx and Engels to know it,

You will be surprised as to how many socialists have never read Marx and Engels, how many conservatives never read Burke, and how many libertarians never read Jefferson.

The only people who complain about Linux are:
1) Competing businesses and industries
And
2) People who choose one that's too complicated, feel overwhelmed and delete it out of confusion

Of course. Linux is perfect. Nobody complains unless they're stupid/have an interest in it. Resistance is futile.
:rolleyes:

Of course. Linux is perfect. Nobody complains unless they're stupid/have an interest in it. Resistance is futile.
:rolleyes:

Nonsense! Linux is far from perfect. Things are often broken or implemented imperfectly or otherwise half-assed, and I've nearly destroyed my computer at least twice while using it.

Even then, many parts and programs of or in Linux are still better than anything else I've used :)

Free As In Libre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software) is pretty spiffy too.

"the terrorists" always win. its a question of WHICH "terrorists" and "win" what.

governments (and would be governments) should send their their gigantic robot champions to tussle it out in some sandbox on the moon somewhere and leave the rest of us (little furry creatures and hairless apes and the rest of the web of organic life) alone.

=^^=
.../\...

Of course. Linux is perfect. Nobody complains unless they're stupid/have an interest in it. Resistance is futile.
:rolleyes:
Eventually you saw the light as well. :p

In all seriousness. Linux is the most mature OS, which does not treat the users like idiots which need to be subjected to DRM and similar 'fun'.

Like most things that are worth owning, Computers are an American invention.

mmmm so Charles Babage and Tommy Flowers had nothing to do with it.

And Rolex / Omega watches are crap (not american) Rolls Royce can't make a decent aircraft engine (not american) and Syphilis (origionally american) is good for you.

Sorry I stopped reading after this.

I would just like to say something, as someone who knows next to nothing about computers.

Ubuntu is as easy to use as Windows, was absolutely free, gives me free online support, and has less bugs than Windows. And it's cool to say Ubuntu a lot while striking Bruce Lee poses.

If Microsoft can give me something as good as Ubuntu, they would still have to make it free so that I would use it.

Yes, people are stupid. Especially socialists. :D

Oh, come on. Surely you have to admit that the Bush administration has become so absurd, even a caricature like STR (or on this site, FAG) could be mistaken for a living, breathing member of that stubborn 32 percent of Americans?

No.

I, for one, support the open source new world order. (Hear that, Linus Torvalds? New Limacon will gladly carry out your plans, it is your friend. Please don't hurt me...).

I, for one, support the open source new world order. (Hear that, Linus Torvalds? New Limacon will gladly carry out your plans, it is your friend. Please don't hurt me...).Linus does not care about what you say. He only cares if you send him kernel patches.

Hey, Posi, what's the best distro for an arabic speaker? ;)

Next time somebody asks you how Al Queda agents pay for their rifles and rocket launchers, you can tell them that foreign hackers make software called Linux which helps them steal from Americans.

You can't buy that in a shop.

Um,Linux has been making computer software since the same time as Macintosh and Microsoft.Earlier actually.I tried Linux Ubuntu.I got it from a friend.I don't know whether it was free or not.It was okay.A little of Mac a little of PC.Didn't really seemed disgned for hacking.More like,well,NSGing(surfin' the web) or writing a term paper.Now because it's free,the Chinese are hacking our battle ships.:rolleyes:Yeah,right,people use Linux because they choose to.It's not going to take over hte world.

It's just more stupidity.

Hi Tristan.
Thanks for your article.
I agree once again.
The name alone (LINUX) sounds kind of queer to me!
It’s just some primitive European substitute for a real operation system like the mighty Windows XP.
Also I would like to mention that Apple’s ‘Mac Os X’ is a real threat, too. This damn extrem leftwing company is giving millions to the democ-rats!!!
Also I suspect that this Mac OS is sending personal information to Apple and other communist companies and organizations!
Kindest of regards,
Shelley


Although I find Windows far,far superior to Mac OSX.This is sillyness.Now Apple is Communist.*cough* Windows makes parts in communist China just like Mac*cough*Look under a Mac mouse it clearly states "designed by Apple in California. Oh yeah a blue state.It's white it must contain anthrax.

BTW-I've got Dreamweaver,anyone have the means of launching an anti-stupidity(the article)website?:confused:

Once again-- Conservipedia (http://www.conservapedia.com/Linux) vs. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux)

I just love the image of Osama squatting on a dirt floor somewhere, putting in twelve hour days writing his own OS to bring down the infidels. His AK rusting against the wall while he learns the machine code for memory access, his beard turning grey as he tries to reinvent text output, his tall-man's stoop turning into a true hump as he finally gets a kernel running from 640K of base memory.

After that, in about 2020, he discovers the secret of eternal youth and builds a time-machine. Then he goes back to 1969. And that is how Linux Torvalds is really Osama Bin Laden.

Um,Linux has been making computer software since the same time as Macintosh and Microsoft.
I don't think so. UNIX, maybe, but LINUX was created in 1991, more than ten years after Apple and Microsoft were founded.

Hey, Posi, what's the best distro for an arabic speaker? ;)
Al Quedux

For all you reds out there, may I suggest Stalinux.