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Of course the fact that the ninja ceased to exist shouldn't stand in the way of a good tale...

Shaolin monks deny online tale of ninja that bested them, demand apology

BEIJING -- China's Shaolin Temple has demanded a public apology from an Internet user who claimed a Japanese ninja beat its kung fu-practicing monks in a showdown, a lawyer said Friday.

An open letter from the temple posted on the Internet on Thursday denied the fight ever took place and called on the person who posted the claim under the name "Five minutes every day" to apologize to the temple's martial arts masters.

Monks from the temple, nestled in the Songshan Mountains of central China's Henan province, said they will consider legal action if he or she doesn't make a public apology.

Lawyer Huang Kun of Henan's Huizhi Law Firm confirmed in a telephone interview Friday that he had posted the letter on behalf of the temple.

The spat comes amid lingering tensions between China and Japan over wartime atrocities. Chinese remain highly sensitive to anything that smacks of Japanese militarism, particularly because many believe Tokyo has yet to show adequate remorse for its World War II-era actions in China.

The posting last week on the "Iron Blood Bulletin Board Community" described a ninja who challenged the monks of the Shaolin Temple to a fight in August after practicing boxing at a Japanese mountain retreat for five years. The Internet user claimed the monks accepted the challenge and the ninja won, proving the monks are trained to perform rather than fight.

The Shaolin Temple's letter said the posting was "evil" and "a pure fabrication." It said the account of the ninja's victory had been widely commented on and distributed, especially in Japan.

"This extremely irresponsible behavior not only impacts the Shaolin temple and its monks, but also the whole martial arts community and the Chinese people," it said. (AP)

September 1, 2007

I was telling my brother in law about this today.
I included the words "... or else" in the blurb, and he choked on his burger with laughter.

My personal opinion is that of the last line of the article, based on personal experience of efficacy 'twixt what is known of the two styles and very persuasions thereof.
For what that's worth.

Aren't modern day sightings of ninja similar to Elvis sightings?

Aren't modern day sightings of ninja similar to Elvis sightings?

Indeed. Both are dead, both have lots of faux posers, and both get sighted a lot.

And they was fast as lightning! Hi, ah!

The closest thing to a ninja that exists today is the protagonist character from Splinter Cell.

Indeed. Both are dead, both have lots of faux posers, and both get sighted a lot.

QFT.

I can't believe it-the childishness of actual nations and organizations-what next? "I'm sorry the ninja beat the crap out of you-please drop the lawsuit?"

Indeed. Both are dead, both have lots of faux posers, and both get sighted a lot.

Makes me wonder what would happen if a Chinese blogger put up a post that stated a Shaolin Monk ran up to the current Japanese Imperial family, subdued the bodyguards and thwapped the Imperial family with a rolled up newspaper.

Makes me wonder what would happen if a Chinese blogger put up a post that stated a Shaolin Monk ran up to the current Japanese Imperial family, subdued the bodyguards and thwapped the Imperial family with a rolled up newspaper.

I would *so* love that!

But who's to say it hasn't already been done by, say, The Onion.

This is more of nation posturing really. This would be similiar to us saying a cowboy shot a shaolin monk. It isn't so much about the type of thing...more like a japanese beat the crap out of a bunch of chinese...see cause the chinese are weak.

This is more of nation posturing really. This would be similiar to us saying a cowboy shot a shaolin monk. One of your many, many anime may portray something similar. :p
It isn't so much about the type of thing...more like a japanese beat the crap out of a bunch of chinese...see cause the chinese are weak.

You, of all people .... :p

Ok no clue how to quote so here goes. I wasn't making a racist comment merely boiling down why the Chinese people take offense to the whole thing. It makes them look bad. After WWII the chinese are still a little leery of their neighbors to the east.

Ok no clue how to quote so here goes. I wasn't making a racist comment merely boiling down why the Chinese people take offense to the whole thing. It makes them look bad. After WWII the chinese are still a little leery of their neighbors to the east.

Stop trolling for Muravyets! :p

When will people learn that if you ignore a rumor, it'll go away?

Ok no clue how to quote so here goes.

It's that nifty little button in the lower right corner of each post that says "quote", and falls between "edit/delete" and the scroll icon (for multiple quote).

I don't there even are ninjas anymore. Even if there were, they'd probably work for the Japanese secret service or something.

The ninjas weren't really fighters, anyway. More like spies.

When will people learn that if you ignore a rumor, it'll go away?
More likely it'll just spring up on Snopes in a few years time.

It's that nifty little button in the lower right corner of each post that says "quote", and falls between "edit/delete" and the scroll icon (for multiple quote).

C'mon ... you *know* it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
:p

When will people learn that if you ignore a rumor, it'll go away?

Ask Richard Gere.
With a straight face.

I would *so* love that!

But who's to say it hasn't already been done by, say, The Onion.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Just wait for someone from China to see the post. :p

It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Just wait for someone from China to see the post. :p

You must, undoubtedly, be referring to this ...:
http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2002/06/53048

:D

Maybe. :p

Good times. :)

They've posted a lot of gems, but i could retire with satisfaction after that to menial tasks had i written it.

You must, undoubtedly, be referring to this ...:
http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2002/06/53048

:D

Maybe. :p

Doesn't China have anything better to do, like prepare for the Olympics?

And make a better dynasty!
*pouts*

Doesn't China have anything better to do, like prepare for the Olympics?

I don't there even are ninjas anymore. Even if there were, they'd probably work for the Japanese secret service or something.

They don't exist. Hence the comment I mad in the OP: "Of course the fact that the ninja ceased to exist shouldn't stand in the way of a good tale..."

The last person with a reasonable claim to being a proper ninja was Seiko Fujita (http://fujitaseiko.tripod.com/page9.html). All "practioners" today are either frauds or based on the crumds of the incomplete teachings of Fujita and the other few final ninja.

The ninjas weren't really fighters, anyway. More like spies.

Not at all.

C'mon ... you *know* it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
:p

But the pigglets are so cute and funny....

Ask Richard Gere.
With a straight face.

:P

Not at all.


Part of it. Hidden bodyguards, assassins and street level informants were also part of their job.

Part of it. Hidden bodyguards, assassins and street level informants were also part of their job.

That didn't quite come out as intended... The "not at all" was directed at the comment that ninja weren't fighters.
The ninja certainly trained in fighting arts, as well as many others.

I was telling my brother in law about this today.
I included the words "... or else" in the blurb,
I lol'd

Level 50 Black Belt has 100 Attack and gets 20 hits, and can theoretically do up to 8000 damage vs a no-defense enemy. He has no trouble maxing out at 999 HP, can max out his MDef (>200), and can have up to 51 Absorb and 102 evade simultaneously.

Level 50 Ninja may has up to 83 Attack and does 5 hits (10 if he casts FAST on himself), so can theoretically do up to 1660 (3320) damage vs a no-defense enemy. He maxes at 866 HP, can reach 113 MDef, and gets up to 60 absorb (which means a slightly submax 103 Evade).

China wins.

Of course the fact that the ninja ceased to exist shouldn't stand in the way of a good tale...

Admit it. You started the rumor just to post it here.

Level 50 Black Belt has 100 Attack and gets 20 hits, and can theoretically do up to 8000 damage vs a no-defense enemy. He has no trouble maxing out at 999 HP, can max out his MDef (>200), and can have up to 51 Absorb and 102 evade simultaneously.

Level 50 Ninja may has up to 83 Attack and does 5 hits (10 if he casts FAST on himself), so can theoretically do up to 1660 (3320) damage vs a no-defense enemy. He maxes at 866 HP, can reach 113 MDef, and gets up to 60 absorb (which means a slightly submax 103 Evade).

China wins.

You win the thread...

How sad that purported adults are acting like two year olds.

"Bang Bang! You're dead!"
"No I'm not, you missed me."
"Yes you are, I shot you in the head!"
"No you didn't, there's only a hole in my cowboy hat!"
"YES I DID, NOW LIE DOWN, YOU'RE DEAD!!" (hits kid with a bat)
"MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

Of course the fact that the ninja ceased to exist shouldn't stand in the way of a good tale...

Pusillanimous monks...

Doesn't China have anything better to do, like prepare for the Olympics?
There's over a billion people in the country, I think they can afford a bit of multi-tasking.

Wow those shaolin monks sound really pissed off. Now it does sound a bit childish, and I'm quite surprised that the shaolin monks even give two shits about an internet rumor.

But.... Is it really wise to piss off the SHaolin monks? I've seen 'Enter The Dragon'. :eek:

Stop trolling for Muravyets! :p

I am not trolling for anyone. She is nothing to me, I got into one argument with her that is all. I try to only comment on those things that interest me...she does not

It's that nifty little button in the lower right corner of each post that says "quote", and falls between "edit/delete" and the scroll icon (for multiple quote).

I know how to use the little button, but when quoting quotes where other quotes are inserted I am unfamiliar with how to make it look neat. As opposed to replying to quotes with no context...that is all

Damn you, Daistallia, if I have to have this song in my head then so does everybody else. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO9mMS_VJNU&mode=related&search=

*BOOT TO THE HEAD* (http://beagleweb.com/personal/Frantics-Tae-Kwon-Leep-64k.mp3)

Of course the fact that the ninja ceased to exist shouldn't stand in the way of a good tale...

Didn't China's Communist government exile all its Shaolin masters for being counter-revolutionaries who wouldn't pick sides with the Communists in the Chinese civil war? If anyone's going to sue it should be California, where all those refugees ended up.

None of them are a match for Clown Fu.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bksiiivwTLA

Damn you, Daistallia, if I have to have this song in my head then so does everybody else. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO9mMS_VJNU&mode=related&search=

Bastard:gundge:

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvqzoq8kDMk&mode=related&search=

Wow those shaolin monks sound really pissed off. Now it does sound a bit childish, and I'm quite surprised that the shaolin monks even give two shits about an internet rumor.

But.... Is it really wise to piss off the SHaolin monks? I've seen 'Enter The Dragon'. :eek:

There haven't been any Shaolin Monks in China in decades. They claimed neutrality in the civil war and the Red Guard started killing them for being "counter revolutionaries." Even when they didn't kill them, they trashed the monasteries calling them "relics of a decadent past."

After there were no more Shaolin monks the government recognized the problems of trying to build a society with no cultural legacy. So they invented that Wushu bullshit.

There haven't been any Shaolin Monks in China in decades. They claimed neutrality in the civil war and the Red Guard started killing them for being "counter revolutionaries." Even when they didn't kill them, they trashed the monasteries calling them "relics of a decadent past."

After there were no more Shaolin monks the government recognized the problems of trying to build a society with no cultural legacy. So they invented that Wushu bullshit.

So they are to kung fu as country western fans are to old west cowboys? :)

Indeed. Both are dead, both have lots of faux posers, and both get sighted a lot.

But Elvis' memory at least doesn't get brutalised in sucky cartoons like Naruto.

*BOOT TO THE HEAD*

:D

Boot to the head! Na na
Boot to the head! Na na
Boot to the head! Na na
Boot to the head! Na na...

Last Will and Temperment (http://beagleweb.com/personal/The_Frantics-Last-Will-and-Temperment.mp3) was fun too.

Damb. If you're spoken for, I ought to be able to claim you as a long lost little (I think?) sister! LOL

But Elvis' memory at least doesn't get brutalised in sucky cartoons like Naruto.

You think the Elvis impersonators and various charches of Elvis are any better?

So they are to kung fu as country western fans are to old west cowboys? :)

Pretty much. There's more authenticity in the old David Caredine series "Kung-fu" than there is in the Jet-Li movie "Fearless." And Kung-fu was nonsense.

Don't get me wrong, I loved it. But it was silly.

But Elvis’ memory at least doesn’t get brutalised in sucky cartoons like Naruto.
Tajū Kage Bunshin no Jutsu!!

*kicks Risottia’s ass*

Naruto‘s great fun; it ain’t brutalising anything. It’s not like any viewers actually think ‘real’ ninja acted like Naruto, Sasuke, et al.

Naruto‘s great fun; it ain’t brutalising anything. It’s not like any viewers actually think ‘real’ ninja acted like Naruto, Sasuke, et al.

Do not underestimate the power of gullibility.

Do not underestimate the power of gullibility.
Never underestimate people’s fatalistic pessimism about the human race. ;)

Anyone but the very young, mentally disabled or psycho/sociopathic can tell the difference between fact and fiction. If we were to stop presenting fiction in case people believed it to be fact, the world would be a much duller place.

*BOOT TO THE HEAD* (http://beagleweb.com/personal/Frantics-Tae-Kwon-Leep-64k.mp3)Haha, that's great. Where's that from?

Never underestimate people’s fatalistic pessimism about the human race. ;)

You are due to be very, very surprised...

Haha, that's great. Where's that from?

http://www.thefrantics.com/

Never underestimate people’s fatalistic pessimism about the human race. ;)

Anyone but the very young, mentally disabled or psycho/sociopathic can tell the difference between fact and fiction. If we were to stop presenting fiction in case people believed it to be fact, the world would be a much duller place.It might also have meant that the Coalition didn't go to war with Iraq. Just imagine how dull those Iraqis' lives would have been.

Bush, or maybe someone more literate, in their memoirs: You know, the whole WMD stuff was fiction - we just had no idea people would really believe it was fact. So in the end we just went along for the ride. We figured we could clear the national debt by recording the whole thing and sending it into ones of those silly home video shows you see on TV.

Bush, or maybe someone more literate, in their memoirs: You know, the whole WMD stuff was fiction–we just had no idea people would really believe it was fact. So in the end we just went along for the ride. We figured we could clear the national debt by recording the whole thing and sending it into ones of those silly home video shows you see on TV.
:p

Of course truth is harder to tell from falsehood, but I wager most people can tell the difference between mercenaries/servants of the Edo government and children who summon giant frogs.

Last Will and Temperment (http://beagleweb.com/personal/The_Frantics-Last-Will-and-Temperment.mp3) was fun too.

I haven't heard that in years!

But Elvis' memory at least doesn't get brutalised in sucky cartoons like Naruto.

WRONG. Anime = bad. Manga = good. But the latest issues have taken a serious turn into Weirdland.

Anyone but the very young, mentally disabled or psycho/sociopathic can tell the difference between fact and fiction.

*looks around*

Are you sure?

Anyone but the very young, mentally disabled or psycho/sociopathic can tell the difference between fact and fiction.

*Points you at young earth creationists who insist dinosaurs lived with men ala Flintstones. Highlights Scientologists. Fingers Ameriturds who believe Iraq was solely responsible for 9-11*

Well?

I am not trolling for anyone. She is nothing to me, I got into one argument with her that is all. I try to only comment on those things that interest me...she does not

Thou doth protesteth too much, methinks.

*looks around*

Are you sure?

*Points you at young earth creationists who insist dinosaurs lived with men ala Flintstones. Highlights Scientologists. Fingers Ameriturds who believe Iraq was solely responsible for 9-11*
Fiction in literature or art in general, not falsehood about reality.

I agree that fictional or untrue accounts of reality purporting to be fact can, and do, confuse and obscure with potentially dangerous consequences, but this is quite different from fiction that merely draws inspiration from real life without purporting to be an actual account of reality.

Although we all at times have trouble determining truth from falsehood, especially if we encounter fictional statements or stories presented to us as factual information, very few of us have trouble confusing fictional literature, presented to us as pure fiction, with reality.

Though there are some (Mary Whitehouse, Jack Thompson and the like) who seem to find it harder than the rest of us.

Fiction in literature or art in general, not falsehood about reality.


Hmmmm..... Jack Chick and AD&D. Jack Chick and Rock and Roll.

Hubbard and Scientology.

Religiously stupid adults and Harry Potter.

Fiction in literature or art in general, not falsehood about reality.

I agree that fictional or untrue accounts of reality purporting to be fact can, and do, confuse and obscure with potentially dangerous consequences, but this is quite different from fiction that merely draws inspiration from real life without purporting to be an actual account of reality.

Although we all at times have trouble determining truth from falsehood, especially if we encounter fictional statements or stories presented to us as factual information, very few of us have trouble confusing fictional literature, presented to us as pure fiction, with reality.

Though there are some (Mary Whitehouse, Jack Thompson and the like) who seem to find it harder than the rest of us.
I've met too many otaku who come to Japan thinking that what they saw in anime is how things really are in Japan to think that.

I've met too many otaku who come to Japan thinking that what they saw in anime is how things really are in Japan to think that.

Kinda like Verdigroth? ;)

Hmmmm..... Jack Chick and AD&D. Jack Chick and Rock and Roll.

Hubbard and Scientology.

Religiously stupid adults and Harry Potter.
But Chick, Hubbard and the religious portray their literature as factual.

I’m not saying that certain individuals or groups never present falsehood as truth, fiction as reality. Neither am I saying that people never fall for these falsehoods.

I am saying that fiction, in books, films, games, etc., that is never presented as being factual is very rarely going to be confused with reality by anyone but a small child or someone with mental deficiencies.

A rather obvious statement, really.

I’ve met too many otaku who come to Japan thinking that what they saw in anime is how things really are in Japan to think that.
See: mental deficiencies, above. :p

I am saying that fiction, in books, films, games, etc., that is never presented as being factual is very rarely going to be confused with reality by anyone but a small child or someone with mental deficiencies.


So why do I see people burning Harry Potter books claiming that it will teach their children witchcraft? They certainly are taking it as factual.

So why do I see people burning Harry Potter books claiming that it will teach their children witchcraft? They certainly are taking it as factual.
No, they’re believing that the book influences their children. They most certainly don’t believe the Harry Potter series describes actual events.

The same with Jack Thompson. He believes that GTA and other violent games influence kids to be violent. He doesn’t believe that the game depicts actual events in the real world. He can, like most of us, differentiate between the game and reality. Thompson, and those who burn Harry Potter books just exaggerate fiction's influence.

No, they’re believing that the book influences their children. They most certainly don’t believe the Harry Potter series describes actual events.


No, but they believe the book influences children to imitate events in the book which they believe are real.

In other words, Harry Potter to them may be a fictional character, but the magic he practices is real to them. i.e. a cookbook to magic so to speak.

Just like Jack Thompson believes playing GTA teaches one proficiency in firearms and jacking cars.

No, but they believe the book influences children to imitate events in the book which they believe are real.

In other words, Harry Potter to them may be a fictional character, but the magic he practices is real to them. i.e. a cookbook to magic so to speak.Especially when there's some great tasting jelly beans in his honour. :p


Just like Jack Thompson believes playing GTA teaches one proficiency in firearms and jacking cars.And, especially, at having coffee :p

So why do I see people burning Harry Potter books claiming that it will teach their children witchcraft? They certainly are taking it as factual.
Which is an unending source of hilarity. :)

I've met too many otaku who come to Japan thinking that what they saw in anime is how things really are in Japan to think that.

Wait, cosplay cafés and stuff like that exist, right?

Wait, cosplay cafés and stuff like that exist, right?

Nope. Not even bukkake exists.
Ask Verdigroth.

Especially when there's some great tasting jelly beans in his honour. :p

There's Harry Potter jelly beans?


And, especially, at having coffee :p

Indubitably old chap.

Wait, cosplay cafés and stuff like that exist, right?
Cosplay cafes do indeed exist. Beautiful women leaping at you demanding that you be their boyfriend when you walk off the plane do not, however, exist.

Cosplay cafes do indeed exist. Beautiful women leaping at you demanding that you be their boyfriend when you walk off the plane do not, however, exist.

Unless you happen to be a particularly famous pop idol I imagine.

Bill Shaolinton:

"I did not have sexual relations with that ninja!"

:D

No, but they believe the book influences children to imitate events in the book which they believe are real.

In other words, Harry Potter to them may be a fictional character, but the magic he practices is real to them. i.e. a cookbook to magic so to speak.

Just like Jack Thompson believes playing GTA teaches one proficiency in firearms and jacking cars.
But, once again, neither the crazed parents, nor Jack Thompson confuse reality with the events in Harry Potter or GTA. They’re confused about the influence the fiction has, not that what they’re watching is reality.

Unless your suggesting that Thompson genuinely believes that when someone turns on a GTA game, they’re actually walking about in reality, shooting people.

Moreover, we poke fun at the parents who despise Harry Potter, precisely because we know the books are fiction (and sub-par, unoriginal fiction at that), and can differentiate between said fiction and reality.

But, once again, neither the crazed parents, nor Jack Thompson confuse reality with the events in Harry Potter or GTA. They’re confused about the influence the fiction has, not that what they’re watching is reality.

No, no, no. You don't get it.

Jack Thompson believes that GTA teaches actual use of firearms and principles of car jacking as if it was a university course.

Crazed parents believe Harry Potter will teach their kids on how to actually summon up Cthulu or some other demon and devour their souls.

It's like a cookbook. The food described in the recipe may not ever be actually made, but the how to is listed.

They believe the how to is actually viable and possible in reality, despite their fictional origins.

They don't believe the events. They believe the methods.

Jack Thompson believes that GTA teaches actual use of firearms and principles of car jacking as if it was a university course.
Even if he does so, he can still regards GTA as a game. A game that, he believes, depraves kids, and teaches the use of firearms, but a game none-the-less.

If you showed Jack Thompson footage of GTA, I’m pretty damn sure he could differentiate between that and a video of someone, in reality, shooting people and hijacking cars. He may believe that both the game footage and the real video causes violence among children, but he certainly doesn’t think that Carl Johnson or Tommy Vercetti exist, or that the footage of GTA was a video of actual events.

Crazed parents believe Harry Potter will teach their kids on how to actually summon up Cthulu or some other demon and devour their souls.

They believe the how to is actually viable and possible in reality, despite their fictional origins.
Do they really?

If they do, they certainly haven’t read the book. If they have read the book and can’t tell the difference between it and reality, then I would advise them to go visit a doctor. Find me one sane reader of Harry Potter above the age of eleven who can’t tell that the story is fictional.

It’s like a cookbook. The food described in the recipe may not ever be actually made, but the how to is listed.
But a cookbook is a factual book, and the vast majority of people can tell the difference between Delia Smith’s summer pudding and the BFG’s snozcumbers.

They don’t believe the events. They believe the methods.
Exactly what I said: they’re confused about the influence the fiction has, not that what they’re watching is reality.

It’s not hard to grasp.

Thou doth protesteth too much, methinks.

You should vary your quotes otherwise you may slip and reveal yourself as the person you are. If a person wishes to have a second identity then he must separate them in such a way thinking wise so that his pursuers are unable to discern the reality of him. Every ninja must learn this, daniel san.

Even if he does so, he can still regards GTA as a game. A game that, he believes, depraves kids, and teaches the use of firearms, but a game none-the-less.

If you showed Jack Thompson footage of GTA, I’m pretty damn sure he could differentiate between that and a video of someone, in reality, shooting people and hijacking cars. He may believe that both the game footage and the real video causes violence among children, but he certainly doesn’t think that Carl Johnson or Tommy Vercetti exist, or that the footage of GTA was a video of actual events.

No dammit. That's not the point at all. If you see his lunatic rants, he says GTA isn't just inspiring one to violence, it teaches kids how to effectively do it as good as or better than boot camp in an army. He confuses reality with false reality.


Do they really?

Just visit your local raving mob of book burners. See what they accuse the book of doing.


If they do, they certainly haven’t read the book.


Dur, really? Of course they didn't. They only need to hear that it's popular, and has kids using magic.


If they have read the book and can’t tell the difference between it and reality, then I would advise them to go visit a doctor. Find me one sane reader of Harry Potter above the age of eleven who can’t tell that the story is fictional.

*beats dead horse*

I'm not saying their taking the story as real. I'm saying their taking the methods regarding magic use outlined inside as real.

It's like Harry Potter contained complete and detailed blueprints on how to build fission bombs. Only it's magic.


But a cookbook is a factual book, and the vast majority of people can tell the difference between Delia Smith’s summer pudding and the BFG’s snozcumbers.


Enough can't that they can form witch hunt mobs.

No dammit. That’s not the point at all.
But that is my point.

I’m not arguing whether or not Jack Thompson believes GTA teaches kids how to shoot guns, I’m arguing that he, indeed most of us, can tell that the pictures on the screen are not pictures of the real world.

Nothing more.

Just visit your local raving mob of book burners. See what they accuse the book of doing.
I can’t seem to find them in my Yellow Pages.

Is there some sort of waiting list I can join?

Dur, really? Of course they didn’t. They only need to hear that it’s popular, and has kids using magic.
Then they are irrelevant to the debate.

*beats dead horse*

I’m not saying their taking the story as real. <snip>
Then why, and what, are we debating? That’s the sum total of my argument: that they aren’t taking the story as real.

Enough can’t that they can form witch hunt mobs.
Then such people need to be given medical and psychological help. The inability to differentiate between fictional stories and the real world is, at the very least, a sign of mental anguish.

Then why, and what, are we debating?


How best to frustrate each other? As to the waiting list. Not really. You kind of missed the biggest hysteria a few months back when the book burners were getting media attention.

You should vary your quotes otherwise you may slip and reveal yourself as the person you are. If a person wishes to have a second identity then he must separate them in such a way thinking wise so that his pursuers are unable to discern the reality of him. Every ninja must learn this, daniel san.

Don't you have some flies to catch with chopsticks or something? Nail some 2x4's with your palms? Car waxing?

Uhm, ewww. Never mind. I just thought about what that's practice for, for you.
Eww. Ewwwww.

*retch*

Bill Shaolinton:

"I did not have sexual relations with that ninja!"

:D

Thread idea?

There's Harry Potter jelly beans?
Yeah! Seriously. *nods emphatically*
http://www.famousfoods.com/hapobebojebe1.html

Indubitably old chap.
Until someone far more clever than m'self invents the Brainstorm device, i suspect i'll have to settle for the PS2 paddle key-combo. :(