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No, Don't Ruin Halloween, Please!

Wilgrove
02-09-2007, 06:09
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/

Yes, Chick Publishing Corporation is now trying to get Christians to buy their tract to hand out as 'treat' on Halloween. When I first saw this page, I just had to laugh at the first line.

Halloween...

...witnessing doesn't get any easier.

Yes, because as we all know, kids are impressionable bastards who are easily led astray with cartoons about how Halloween is wrong and is Satan's birthday, and how every religion except certain Christians (because hey you can be the wrong brand of Christian!) are going to Hell!

It’s fun to hear what they say when they get Chick tracts.

I bet it goes something like this.

"Trick to Treat"
"Here you go, Chick Tracts for everyone with tooth paste!"
"Gee......thanks....."

Two minutes later, their door get egged and the tracts are left on their front lawn. The only one who accept the tracts are one who are already brainwashed.

The kids aren’t the only ones who will read them.

Yes, truckers who find them in truck stops will read them too as they use the toilet and then flush them.

Don’t forget what happens to kids . . . they grow up, and are replaced by more kids.

Because we all know condoms, and pills are wrong, if Jesus wants you to have the Baby, then dammit, you're going to get that baby, so stop fighting him!

Seriously though, why do Christians feel the need to make every holiday about them? Christmas, & Easter I can understand, but then it extends to Halloween (because we all know those kids are damned!), Thanksgiving, etc. Why can't they just let Halloween be Halloween?

and yes I'm probably exaggarating on that last part but my point still stand.
Dakini
02-09-2007, 06:13
Fucking christians trying to ruin the best holiday.
Wilgrove
02-09-2007, 06:19
In Australia we don't have Halloween.

In Australia we don't have Jack Chick.

Perfect? Yes. :cool:

Halloween must be a USA only thing, unless they celebrate it in Europe and Canada.
Pezalia
02-09-2007, 06:20
In Australia we don't have Halloween.

In Australia we don't have Jack Chick.

Perfect? Yes. :cool:
NERVUN
02-09-2007, 06:23
Fucking christians trying to ruin the best holiday.
I am? And here I thought I was doing my level best to introduce it to the kids of Japan so more countries can share in the joys of Halloween.
Soviet Haaregrad
02-09-2007, 06:25
Hallowe'en is a catholic holiday, All Hallows Eve. Although, like most Christian holidays, it's a slightly modified pagan holiday.
Gauthier
02-09-2007, 06:27
Jack Chick also bears a striking resemblance to Fred Phelps. Coincidence?
The Loyal Opposition
02-09-2007, 06:28
Fucking christians trying to ruin the best holiday.

In fairness, a couple of churches I used to attend put on "harvest" events, which involved turning a nearby field into a large carnival with lots of food, games, arts and crafts, music, costume contests and other activities. At one church, the worship sanctuary was converted into a huge dark maze with the assistance of cardboard refrigerator boxes and miles of duct tape. :D

There was no overt proselytizing that I remember (other than being located at a church, I suppose). Definitely no Chick tracts.

Tons of candy, though.
Cannot think of a name
02-09-2007, 06:29
The number of people who take Chick seriously <people who take him humorously.


Even as a kid (who at the time believed in god...Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, too, so...) I found this shit hilarious. I don't know that it will ruin anything. But it is funny, as usual.
Ordo Drakul
02-09-2007, 06:34
Christmas is on December 25th because it was Mithras' Birthday. The Mythraic Cult was open only to adult males, and Nicholas of Myra took advantage of that fact to hold a special Mass for Christ where he'd indoctrinate the women and children while the men were busy with religeous observances-presents freely distributed helped.
Easter was the festival of Eostre, the Saxon goddess of Spring-her symbols were the egg, symbol of the soul and birth, the colors those of spring, and her personal messenger was a rabbit.
Halloween is unique in that it's the only pagan holdout still observed-OF COURSE they're going to try to abscond with it-proselytizing is part of their belief system.
Daistallia 2104
02-09-2007, 06:42
In Australia we don't have Halloween.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween#Australia_and_New_Zealand

I also have a large number of Antipodian friends who confirm this trend.

In Australia we don't have Jack Chick.

Then you miss out on great classics like:
http://www.geocities.com/tribhis/01.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/tribhis/cthulhutract.html)

Perfect? Yes. :cool:

No. Having Halloween but no Jack Chick would be perfect. Scotland and Ireland , where Halloween originated, would thus be perfect. :cool:
IL Ruffino
02-09-2007, 06:49
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp
Zilam
02-09-2007, 07:44
See this is war to the christians. They feel like making the first move in the war of holidays. They know the war on Christmas is coming soon, so they though they'd stick it to the pagan, devil worshiping, gluttonists of Halloween.

Next year, I hear they are going to march against frozen turkeys and chefs for promoting master basting!
Dexlysia
02-09-2007, 07:53
Lulz.
http://www.chick.com/tractimages65924/0096/0096_17.gif
Zilam
02-09-2007, 07:54
Lulz.
http://www.chick.com/tractimages65924/0096/0096_17.gif



Are...you serious?:headbang:
Wilgrove
02-09-2007, 07:59
Are...you serious?:headbang:

Apparently not.

Behold: Rock & Punk music are EBIL!

http://www.chick.com/tractimages65924/0034/0034_11.gif
http://www.chick.com/tractimages65924/0034/0034_12.gif

Apparently any and all music are evil.....
Zilam
02-09-2007, 08:01
Apparently not.

Behold: Rock & Punk music are EBIL!

http://www.chick.com/tractimages65924/0034/0034_11.gif
http://www.chick.com/tractimages65924/0034/0034_12.gif

Apparently any and all music are evil.....


Wait. He is going after christian rock? i guess he forgets that in the music they praise christ, and do more for the Gospel, then he can ever imagine
:upyours:
Katganistan
02-09-2007, 08:01
Fucking christians trying to ruin the best holiday.

No, fucking Chick trying to ruin the best holiday.
Wilgrove
02-09-2007, 08:04
Wait. He is going after christian rock? i guess he forgets that in the music they praise christ, and do more for the Gospel, then he can ever imagine
:upyours:

Eh it's Jack Chick, what did you expect? He's still stuck in the 1800's.
Zilam
02-09-2007, 08:05
Eh it's Jack Chick, what did you expect? He's still stuck in the 1800's.

I've never even heard of him until now.
The Brevious
02-09-2007, 08:09
Wait. He is going after christian rock? i guess he forgets that in the music they praise christ, and do more for the Gospel, then he can ever imagine
:upyours:

You're obviously not keeping Pat Boone in mind.
http://www.broadwaytovegas.com/patboonemetalmood.jpg
Gauthier
02-09-2007, 09:13
I've never even heard of him until now.

You never heard of Chick's most famous piece, Dark Dungeons?

A literary masterpiece amongst the "roleplaying games r 3b1l" crowd.
[NS]Fergi America
02-09-2007, 09:15
Well, I can agree that rock and country mashed together sure *sounds* like hell, anyway~!
The Brevious
02-09-2007, 09:20
You never heard of Chick's most famous piece, Dark Dungeons?

A literary masterpiece amongst the "roleplaying games r 3b1l" crowd.

I actually have this one. I like to keep it out on my coffee table.
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Dungeons-Dragons/dp/0914984373
Pezalia
02-09-2007, 09:25
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween#Australia_and_New_Zealand

I also have a large number of Antipodian friends who confirm this trend.

Then you miss out on great classics like:
http://www.geocities.com/tribhis/01.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/tribhis/cthulhutract.html)

No. Having Halloween but no Jack Chick would be perfect. Scotland and Ireland , where Halloween originated, would thus be perfect. :cool:

Now that you mention it, I did have a couple of trick-or-treaters a couple of years ago... although most of us see it as Americanisation and don't like it.

That Jack Chick guy needs help... but I do love Cthulhu!
Daistallia 2104
02-09-2007, 09:26
I've never even heard of him until now.

:eek: How'd ya manage that after 2 years here?
The Brevious
02-09-2007, 09:30
Fergi America;13018756']Well, I can agree that rock and country mashed together sure *sounds* like hell, anyway~!

... Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy?
What about "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" ... oh, wait, never mind.
Hell, gotcha. :p
Marrakech II
02-09-2007, 09:33
:eek: How'd ya manage that after 2 years here?

Never heard of Jack Chick either. I don't ever remember a posting with that guy as the center of attention.
Lunatic Goofballs
02-09-2007, 10:09
Halloween is a day for children to dress in costume, collect candy and have fun. Clearly the work of Satan. Everybody knows that fun is the Devil's temptation. Even smiling invites him into your heart where he twists you to his evil purposes. In fact, you should probably all stab yourselves in the crotch with a pencil right now cast that foul creature out. *nod*
The Brevious
02-09-2007, 10:12
Halloween is a day for children to dress in costume, collect candy and have fun. Clearly the work of Satan. Everybody knows that fun is the Devil's temptation. Even smiling invites him into your heart where he twists you to his evil purposes. In fact, you should probably all stab yourselves in the crotch with a pencil right now cast that foul creature out. *nod*

Weird. I had to have a conversation with my wife about circumcision today, since a friend of hers is going to squirt a pup any day now, and they don't want to if it's a boy (or girl for that matter).
Lunatic Goofballs
02-09-2007, 10:18
Weird. I had to have a conversation with my wife about circumcision today, since a friend of hers is going to squirt a pup any day now, and they don't want to if it's a boy (or girl for that matter).

It's a surprisingly tough decision until you stop to consider how utterly irrelevant it is. By the time a child is old enough to understand the difference, he's been alone with his penis long enough to see it as the norm. :)
The Brevious
02-09-2007, 10:20
It's a surprisingly tough decision until you stop to consider how utterly irrelevant it is. By the time a child is old enough to understand the difference, he's been alone with his penis long enough to see it as the norm. :)

Probably the case. It's that whole "smegma" thing that might make the "birds & bees" conversation that much more difficult :p
Ashmoria
02-09-2007, 14:50
its not like jack chick thought up halloween bashing.

my brother in law and his wife never let their kids participate in halloween. its a pagan holiday. their oldest is 26 now.

chick is not going to actually convince anyone. the only people who would hand out this tract is a curmudgeonly, cheepskate fundamentalist who cant bring himself to turn off the porch light and let other people have fun.
Deus Malum
02-09-2007, 14:56
Halloween is a day for children to dress in costume, collect candy and have fun. Clearly the work of Satan. Everybody knows that fun is the Devil's temptation. Even smiling invites him into your heart where he twists you to his evil purposes. In fact, you should probably all stab yourselves in the crotch with a pencil right now cast that foul creature out. *nod*

LG, what do you usually dress up as? :p
Johnny B Goode
02-09-2007, 15:02
Lulz.
http://www.chick.com/tractimages65924/0096/0096_17.gif

Party in hell at 8!

Satan's got a mini-bar, and Beelzebub's DJ!
The_pantless_hero
02-09-2007, 15:47
Party in hell at 8!

Satan's got a mini-bar, and Beelzebub's DJ!
But hey, you gotta be careful, Jesus is the bouncer. He'll kick you the &$%@ out.
Ifreann
02-09-2007, 15:53
"Why does Jack Chick hate everything Mommy?"
"He's just an evil man, Billy, and evil, evil man. You stay away from him"
Bolol
02-09-2007, 15:55
http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/

Seriously though, why do Christians feel the need to make every holiday about them? Christmas, & Easter I can understand, but then it extends to Halloween (because we all know those kids are damned!), Thanksgiving, etc. Why can't they just let Halloween be Halloween?

and yes I'm probably exaggarating on that last part but my point still stand.

*sigh*

Once again its the sad case of the brainless nutter making everyone think he represents Christianity.

...and really I can't blame you. These guys are too pervasive to ignore in the general sense, and yet most Christians are too WILLING to ignore him and the effects he has on religion.

But then again...according to Chick I'm not really a Christian...more a part of the vast Catholic conspiracy...

...Sucks huh?

But yeah...same old story...most Christians DON'T want to change anything, DON'T want to take away Halloween (certainly not I!), and people just get swept up by the guy with the loudest voice...

In this case a spastic basketcase who I have no doubt is still a virgin...
Dakini
02-09-2007, 16:09
I am? And here I thought I was doing my level best to introduce it to the kids of Japan so more countries can share in the joys of Halloween.
I was referring to the crazy christians who hand out bible tracts to small children instead of candy. Sorry I didn't specify.
Lunatic Goofballs
02-09-2007, 16:42
LG, what do you usually dress up as? :p

Evil Clown. Or Ninja Clown. Well.... I already have the make up. :p

four years ago, I did a groovy Grim Reaper. :)
Johnny B Goode
02-09-2007, 17:24
But hey, you gotta be careful, Jesus is the bouncer. He'll kick you the &$%@ out.

Crimson Devil is playing. Every kind of black metal, and their amps go up to eleven.
Katganistan
02-09-2007, 17:24
Well, all I can tell you is I get the biggest bags of wrapped candies I can find, and meet the kids at the door in costume.

Chick is just a nasty old man who is of the "I'm right, all of y'all are going to hell!" ilk.
Ferrous Oxide
02-09-2007, 17:44
Chick's ideology is almost as bad as the Taliban's.
Ifreann
02-09-2007, 17:47
Chick's ideology is almost as bad as the Taliban's.

At least they don't hate halloween and can appreciate wearing funny clothes.
New Limacon
02-09-2007, 19:12
Jack Chick...the only man who can see a connection between the Church and Freemasonry.

Actually, giving out his stuff ("literature", "graphic novels"? I don't know) would make a good trick.
Intangelon
02-09-2007, 19:24
I have a problem with the "Satan's birthday" horseshit.

Do angels have birthdays? If they don't, and I'm pretty sure that as constructs of soul and energy they probably don't, then satan, as a fallen angel, doesn't have a birthday, either. Jesus has a birthday because he was born of mortal flesh. Satan couldn't swing that, so why all the fuss?
Neo Art
02-09-2007, 19:35
I have a problem with the "Satan's birthday" horseshit.

Do angels have birthdays? If they don't, and I'm pretty sure that as constructs of soul and energy they probably don't, then satan, as a fallen angel, doesn't have a birthday, either. Jesus has a birthday because he was born of mortal flesh. Satan couldn't swing that, so why all the fuss?

moreover, if you really read it literally, lucifer and the rest of the angels existed before the universe was created, meaning they themselves predate any concept of "days"
Zilam
02-09-2007, 19:45
Party in hell at 8!

Satan's got a mini-bar, and Beelzebub's DJ!



Wait there is a party in hell at 8? But me and Leonidas were supposed to have dinner in hell tonight at 8. Dang :(
Zilam
02-09-2007, 19:53
Come on, there's food. New York-style pizza fresh from Hell's Kitchens!

Wait, is it Brooklyn style pizza? if so, i'd rather have philly ;)

-relives commercial-

Philly! BROOKLYN! PHILLY! BROOKLYN !
Johnny B Goode
02-09-2007, 19:54
Wait there is a party in hell at 8? But me and Leonidas were supposed to have dinner in hell tonight at 8. Dang :(

Come on, there's food. New York-style pizza fresh from Hell's Kitchens!
Gauthier
02-09-2007, 20:01
Wait there is a party in hell at 8? But me and Leonidas were supposed to have dinner in hell tonight at 8. Dang :(

It's Hell. Probably an all-night rave that's still going by the time you're done. And screw the Athenians, Spartans know how to party.
Vetalia
02-09-2007, 20:17
At least they'll make good firestarters for the Abramelin operation. Me, Crowley, and Parsons drew straws, and guess who's responsible for bringing the supplies?
Smunkeeville
02-09-2007, 20:55
In fairness, a couple of churches I used to attend put on "harvest" events, which involved turning a nearby field into a large carnival with lots of food, games, arts and crafts, music, costume contests and other activities. At one church, the worship sanctuary was converted into a huge dark maze with the assistance of cardboard refrigerator boxes and miles of duct tape. :D

There was no overt proselytizing that I remember (other than being located at a church, I suppose). Definitely no Chick tracts.

Tons of candy, though.

my church does that, we have inflatables and a pumpkin patch and live music and free food.

It's a big party.

They even let me come and make balloon animals.
Johnny B Goode
02-09-2007, 21:11
Wait, is it Brooklyn style pizza? if so, i'd rather have philly ;)

-relives commercial-

Philly! BROOKLYN! PHILLY! BROOKLYN !

No, it's not. (Hell's Kitchens is a reference ;))
Wilgrove
02-09-2007, 21:14
I usually do one of two things for Halloween.

1. I go to a haunted spot and go ghost hunting.

2. I rent all of my favorite horror movie, invite some friends over, and watch it with them. A horror movie marathon.

This year, I may go camping in a haunted spot. :D
IL Ruffino
02-09-2007, 21:21
Wait, is it Brooklyn style pizza? if so, i'd rather have philly ;)

-relives commercial-

Philly! BROOKLYN! PHILLY! BROOKLYN !

Brooklyn.
One World Alliance
02-09-2007, 21:24
Hmmmmmmm, I never really thought about it, but you guys are right, Halloween is the only originally pagan holiday that the christians have not been able to apostasize (at least, not successfully). Though they have tried to dress it down and numb the high by altering the holiday into a "fall festival".

I personally like the fall festivals as well, but I like them AND Halloween, I usually associate them as two different and distinct rituals, not replacements of one another.


Sounds like the War of the Holidays has already commenced this year. Let the games begin......
Anti-Social Darwinism
02-09-2007, 23:54
I was going to post a well-thought-out, historically based response to this, but then I had a better idea - the hell with it. I'm carving pumpkins, giving out candy and setting up a dumb supper to commemorate the passing of loved ones this past year. Anyone gives me a religious tract, I'll salt it and burn it.
Wilgrove
03-09-2007, 00:00
I was going to post a well-thought-out, historically based response to this, but then I had a better idea - the hell with it. I'm carving pumpkins, giving out candy and setting up a dumb supper to commemorate the passing of loved ones this past year. Anyone gives me a religious tract, I'll salt it and burn it.

Record it and put it on You Tube!