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Which historical state, religion, or ideaology do you find to have the most emotive, persuasive or inticing propaganda? Which causes do you wish you could be a mindless zealot for?

I'll stick up a poll once I get a few of the more popular ones.

Personally I always get a shiver up my spine when I experience epic chinese patriotic media. I *LOVE* the middle kingdom!
Propaganda (http://youtube.com/watch?v=gLw7TbgO3Ew)
Propaganda (http://youtube.com/watch?v=scvu6RD1fwY)
Propaganda (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9-rgPI5iGBg&mode=related&search=)

Okay, poll options will be:
China
Sparta
USA
Nazi germany
USSR

Sparta before anyone else says it.

America in WWII has some damn inspiring propaganda. It had a good feel to it because it was designed to motivate the nation and spur the zeal and drive it would take to get people to work together.

Soviet Russia had powerful propaganda ,machine as well; it was about the community more than the individual and empowering the proletariat, even if the nation's policies didn't actually support what was in the propaganda.

I'd say one of those two.

I always found the Knights Templars as my favorite group of nutcase zealots. And Christianity has raised propaganda to a high art.

And in modern times, I find PETA as my absolute favorite group of nuts. I mean, I sympathize with anyone concerned about animal welfare. But milking cows is immorally exploiting them? Come on.

Shostakovich.

*waits for someone to explain why I said this*

Nazi Germany.

I don't agree with the policies, but they had some pretty fucking awesome propaganda, which totally blew everything else before or since away.

Nazi Germany.

I don't agree with the policies, but they had some pretty fucking awesome propaganda, which totally blew everything else before or since away.

I think I'd argue that they would have inspired me to be against them. You know, really be an ultrazealot anti-nazi.

A truly galvanizing party to be sure.

I always find anything that involves people screaming and charging on/in, despite all the facts/odds/people being against them. Basically people shouting/screaming inspiringly.

Evil or no, I would back them up till the end.

So to answer your question, any culture that involves charging blindly on, is a win in ultrazeal. I think this covers most of the older ideologies, but is unfortunatly becoming less and less common. What is the world coming to?

EDIT: perhaps you should change the title to, "most effective method of propaganda, in order to increase awareness of propaganda techniques, to further develop oneself" just to help those "above this" to grace us with their presence.

So to answer your question, any culture that involves charging blindly on, is a win in ultrazeal. I think this covers most of the older ideologies, but is unfortunatly becoming less and less common. What is the world coming to?
An age where fully automatic weapons are available and useful?

I could become mindlessly zealous about pragmatism and rationality. It's a pity that there's no nation that demonstrates these traits.

I think I'd argue that they would have inspired me to be against them. You know, really be an ultrazealot anti-nazi.

A truly galvanizing party to be sure.
I think that it's hard to honestly say, seeing as none of us were in the shoes of the average German citizen between 1919 and 1945, to be quite honest.

I challenge you to find me a manlier song than the Panzerlied, also - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ4ldl12W0I

I love Soviet Propaganda...especially the later kind. This video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JBUY8KtUIw) has to be my favorite.

Sparta before anyone else says it.

Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.


Fuck you.


I saw this thread and thought I had a witty, original retort to the OP, but noooo! You fuckin' stole it away!

Dick. =P

An age where fully automatic weapons are available and useful?

Ah, I see what you mean. So now peoples inspiring screams, get muted by someone with a gun. This leads to a need for even more inspiring screams. I can't wait to hear them:D

Shostakovich.

*waits for someone to explain why I said this*

Okay, you've got me. Why did you say it?

I challenge you to find me a manlier song than the Panzerlied, also - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ4ldl12W0I
Done (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9DpC6x75s8)

The Soviet National anthem is pretty bad ass, too.

Okay, you've got me. Why did you say it?

His music was used as propaganda, but in itself is much more tragic, describing more the suffering of the people under the regime rather than the regime's greatness. Ironic perhaps is the right word (not sure).

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41030000/jpg/_41030470_churche203.jpg

http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/cover/Gorgoroth%20-%20Twilight%20Of%20The%20Idols.jpg

"Black metal is war."

No, I don't actually believe that churches should be burnt down, destroyed, etc. (except for the Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas). But as for the coolest instance of "ultrazeal," that's my choice.

I think that it's hard to honestly say, seeing as none of us were in the shoes of the average German citizen between 1919 and 1945, to be quite honest.

I challenge you to find me a manlier song than the Panzerlied, also - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ4ldl12W0I

Then let me put it this way:

It would have made a zealot one way or the other.

And I hope that it would have made me a pro-life zealot versus the pro-deathcamp zealots.

Shostakovich.

*waits for someone to explain why I said this*

I was going to say Wagner, but it loses its punch when someone else has already named a composer.

I was going to say Wagner, but it loses its punch when someone else has already named a composer.

Wagner is certainly an excellent example, though. Those two are perhaps the best known.

Wagner is certainly an excellent example, though. Those two are perhaps the best known.

I wouldn't say that Shostakovitch was an ultrazealout, he was a much more complex figure than that. His relations with the government were not always very friendly, he got denounced a few times if I recall.

You know that Buddhist monk who doused himself in gasoline and set himself on fire? Yeah.

You know that Buddhist monk who doused himself in gasoline and set himself on fire? Yeah.

I remember when I first saw that. I felt ill.

How much does it have to take to do that?

USSR FTW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLi_m656tQQ

...I found out about this vid from NSG...I think...so sorry if someone already posted

http://gentlyused.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/liberators-kultur-terror-anti-americanism-1944-nazi-propaganda-poster.jpg
Picture is huge. Nothing bad, though.


and also...

Pakistan is win (http://youtube.com/watch?v=IfcVPEwXaIg)

While "Triumph of the Will" is the most truly inspiring propaganda film I've ever watched, without the laughable idiocy of modern communist pieces, my vote for best government propaganda has to go to the Byzantine Empire. Remember, the Bible was compiled and editted at the behest of the Emperor Constantine to be a guide to good citizenship within his Empire.

I wouldn't say that Shostakovitch was an ultrazealout, he was a much more complex figure than that. His relations with the government were not always very friendly, he got denounced a few times if I recall.

Yes, Shostakovich wasn't patriotic towards the regime unless he had to be, but his involvement with it is well known (that's what I was meaning :)). Yeah, denouncements were in 1936 and 1948, though there is evidence to suggest he actually knew they were coming, that's not to undermine the hardship it put him and his family in. I've always felt the genuine patriotism in his music was towards the Russian people rather than the Soviet regime, if that makes sense.

Yes, Shostakovich wasn't patriotic towards the regime unless he had to be, but his involvement with it is well known (that's what I was meaning :)). Yeah, denouncements were in 1936 and 1948, though there is evidence to suggest he actually knew they were coming, that's not to undermine the hardship it put him and his family in. I've always felt the genuine patriotism in his music was towards the Russian people rather than the Soviet regime, if that makes sense.

Exactly. He had to placate the regime, not doing so was dangerous, especially during the years of his career during the Stalin era. If he hadn't, he and his family would have probably, like so many others, been disappeared. I would agree that he loved his country, if not his government.

Nazi propaganda is the best by far, just because Goebells was so damn good at it, you can literally feel your emotions being manipulated by it.

propaganda? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_12NVPUfaFE)

Shostakovich.

*waits for someone to explain why I said this*

*awards "The Pedro A1+ Award for Awesome Reference"*

Soviet composer, never on good terms with the government. Long story,

*is lazy* So here's a link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shostakovich)

Ghostbuster

*awards "The Pedro A1+ Award for Awesome Reference"*

Soviet composer, never on good terms with the government. Long story,

*is lazy* So here's a link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shostakovich)

Yay :)