NationStates Jolt Archive


## Republican Sex Perverts (Idaho Gay Senator edition)

Occeandrive3
30-08-2007, 05:36
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uMghOK73__8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JQcD8brZZHk&mode=related&search=

wasnt this senator piling up press conferences to call-out Bill Clinton immorality ??
Lunatic Goofballs
30-08-2007, 09:24
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uMghOK73__8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JQcD8brZZHk&mode=related&search=

wasnt this senator piling up press conferences to call-out Bill Clinton immorality ??

Thye part that really sucks is that John Stewart is off this week. :(
Occeandrive3
30-08-2007, 13:35
Thye part that really sucks is that John Stewart is off this week. :(I can feel your pain :mp5::mp5::sniper:
Corneliu
30-08-2007, 13:40
Yes he did and now that we have the latest "The Next Congressional Fuck Up" we now return u to your Real News Network.
Remote Observer
30-08-2007, 15:10
Isn't it interesting that OceanDrive thinks that gays are perverts (read his title).
Khadgar
30-08-2007, 15:14
Isn't it interesting that OceanDrive thinks that gays are perverts (read his title).

I thought it was pretty typical of him honestly. I figure Fass or Bottle will set him right soon enough.
Corneliu
30-08-2007, 15:16
I thought it was pretty typical of him honestly. I figure Fass or Bottle will set him right soon enough.

Hopefully but my bet is they won't.
Bottle
30-08-2007, 15:19
I thought it was pretty typical of him honestly. I figure Fass or Bottle will set him right soon enough.
I sense a disturbance in the Force...I am summoned!

To be fair, perhaps the "perversion" isn't specifically that this fellow was having gay sex, so much as that he was having recreational sex with complete strangers in public bathrooms. I know people who would consider it perverted for a man to do that with a woman.
Remote Observer
30-08-2007, 15:30
I sense a disturbance in the Force...I am summoned!

To be fair, perhaps the "perversion" isn't specifically that this fellow was having gay sex, so much as that he was having recreational sex with complete strangers in public bathrooms. I know people who would consider it perverted for a man to do that with a woman.

I don't believe that sex in a public bathroom is "perverted" - but I do believe that such people should get a room.

More of a manners thing.
Fassigen
30-08-2007, 15:41
Hopefully but my bet is they won't.

I won't, because I find Occeandrive's nonsense completely ignorable.

/Next time, please don't mention me in his threads. My ego-search mojo is disturbed.
Corneliu
30-08-2007, 15:43
I won't, because I find Occeandrive's nonsense completely ignorable.

/Next time, please don't mention me in his threads. My ego-search mojo is disturbed.

LMAO!! Hey I did not mention you. LOL.
Fassigen
30-08-2007, 15:45
LMAO!! Hey I did not mention you. LOL.

1. Fix your caps lock key and realise that it's not 1995 and that "LOL" and "LMAO" reflect poorly on their users.
2. That was a general request, not specifically directed at you.
Corneliu
30-08-2007, 15:47
1. Fix your caps lock key and realise that it's not 1995 and that "LOL" and "LMAO" reflect poorly on their users.

Actually, I used the all caps properly as I was laughing hard.

2. That was a general request, not specifically directed at you.

kk
Occeandrive3
30-08-2007, 15:49
Isn't it interesting that OceanDrive thinks that gays are perverts (read his title).for the record. I never said Gays are perverts.

This senator always spoke against Gay Marriage...
...and he called-out on Clinton sexual lifestyle.
He is an Hypocrite.
Corneliu
30-08-2007, 15:50
for the record. I never said Gays are perverts.

This senator always spoke against Gay Marriage...
...and the called-out on Clinton sexual lifestyle.
He is an Hypocrite.

But the question is...his he truly gay?
Demented Hamsters
30-08-2007, 15:51
I sense a disturbance in the Force...I am summoned!

To be fair, perhaps the "perversion" isn't specifically that this fellow was having gay sex, so much as that he was having recreational sex with complete strangers in public bathrooms. I know people who would consider it perverted for a man to do that with a woman.
or indeed a woman with another woman.

I don't issue with his title - the use of plurals and the youtube link makes it obvious that Ocean's referring to all the GOP sex perverts, not just this one.
However, labelling Craig gay isn't too good. I don't think him gay. Just a pervert who gets his kicks from public bathroom dick.
Fassigen
30-08-2007, 15:52
Actually, I used the all caps properly as I was laughing hard.

Try using "haha" or "funny" or something like that. "ROFL" and "LMAO" or "LOL" or whatever, they evoque images of people who are new to these mysterious intarwebs and are trying so hard to be "hip" and "cool" because they saw other children use them on-line. I'm not being combative or mean-spirited in saying this, I'm just saying it because they really make people look like "n00bish" morons, and you're not a "n00b"...
Occeandrive3
30-08-2007, 15:53
I thought it was pretty typical of him honestly. I figure Fass or Bottle will set him right soon enough.In another words .. you would like to see someone kick my ass and have me bite the dirt.. but you are not willing to try to do it yourself.

common.. hit me.. I give you 2 free shots.. before I pull my arms up. ;)
Szanth
30-08-2007, 15:53
Isn't it interesting that OceanDrive thinks that gays are perverts (read his title).

I sense a disturbance in the Force...I am summoned!

To be fair, perhaps the "perversion" isn't specifically that this fellow was having gay sex, so much as that he was having recreational sex with complete strangers in public bathrooms. I know people who would consider it perverted for a man to do that with a woman.

What she said, and: I'd consider him a pervert in terms of him perverting what is moral and the truth in general, lying to everyone and trying to call someone else out on their sexual lives while being a closet homosexual himself.

But the question is...his he truly gay?

No, he just likes it when men whack him off. Doesn't mean he's gay. He might suck on them a little, it doesn't mean anything. Nothing at all.
Occeandrive3
30-08-2007, 15:56
Then change your title. Change "pervert" to "hypocrite".ok
I will.. exceptionally.
Remote Observer
30-08-2007, 15:56
for the record. I never said Gays are perverts.

This senator always spoke against Gay Marriage...
...and the called-out on Clinton sexual lifestyle.
He is an Hypocrite.

Then change your title. Change "pervert" to "hypocrite".
Fassigen
30-08-2007, 15:57
To be fair, perhaps the "perversion" isn't specifically that this fellow was having gay sex, so much as that he was having recreational sex with complete strangers in public bathrooms. I know people who would consider it perverted for a man to do that with a woman.

I don't see what would be perverted about this. It's barely even kinky - come on, this is the 21st century and sex outside the home or anonymous sex aren't exactly C&BT or *shudders* furry-ism.
Deus Malum
30-08-2007, 15:58
Try using "haha" or "funny" or something like that. "ROFL" and "LMAO" or "LOL" or whatever, they evoque images of people who are new to these mysterious intarwebs and are trying so hard to be "hip" and "cool" because they saw other children use them on-line. I'm not being combative or mean-spirited in saying this, I'm just saying it because they really make people look like "n00bish" morons, and you're not a "n00b"...

Evoke.
Remote Observer
30-08-2007, 16:01
However, labelling Craig gay isn't too good. I don't think him gay. Just a pervert who gets his kicks from public bathroom dick.

How does wanting public bathroom dick make someone a "pervert"?

Immodest, lacking common sense, unable to pay for a room, apply here.

As for gay, if it walks like a duck...
Occeandrive3
30-08-2007, 16:01
Evoke.Fass speaks several languages, (he used the latin/french word).

and still he manages to make fewer mistakes than most..
Fassigen
30-08-2007, 16:04
Evoke.

I was thinking in French and used "évoquer" for some reason. Pardon.
Demented Hamsters
30-08-2007, 16:05
I don't see what would be perverted about this. It's barely even kinky - come on, this is the 21st century and sex outside the home or anonymous sex aren't exactly C&BT or *shudders* furry-ism.
This reminds me of a 'horror' short-story I read recently, written circa 1951.
Last man and woman alive, after a nuclear and biological worldwar. Humanity doomed to extinction because
...
(shocked gasp)
...
she refuses to marry him to carry on the human race because there's no minister alive to perform the ceremony.
If that's not shocking and horrific enough to deal with:
She finally relents and agrees to a sinful union. He goes to the bathroom but has an heart attack
...
(more gasps of fear)
...
She can't come in to rescue him because it's a MEN's TOILET.


I slept with the light on that night, I can tell you.
Fassigen
30-08-2007, 16:07
This reminds me of a 'horror' short-story I read recently, written circa 1951.
Last man and woman alive, after a nuclear and biological worldwar. Humanity doomed to extinction because
...
(shocked gasp)
...
she refuses to marry him to carry on the human race because there's no minister alive to perform the ceremony.
If that's not shocking and horrific enough to deal with:
She finally relents and agrees to a sinful union. He goes to the bathroom but has an heart attack
...
(more gasps of fear)
...
She can't come in to rescue him because it's a MEN's TOILET.


I slept with the light on that night, I can tell you.

Amusing and also exactly the decade in which I was thinking of that one would view this as perverted. Kudos.
Demented Hamsters
30-08-2007, 16:08
How does wanting public bathroom dick make someone a "pervert"?

Immodest, lacking common sense, unable to pay for a room, apply here.

As for gay, if it walks like a duck...
yeah...because nudging someone taking a dump and telling them you want to suck their dick while they're 1/2 way through strangling a carrot is not perverted in the least. oh no, of course not.

I guess you think everyone who likes anal sex must also be gay too, huh?
Bottomboys
30-08-2007, 16:08
for the record. I never said Gays are perverts.

This senator always spoke against Gay Marriage...
...and the called-out on Clinton sexual lifestyle.
He is an Hypocrite.

Thats the $1.65 question; it brings to question the whole damn Republican religious right wing of the party and whether its chocked to the brim with self hating gays.

I mean, if you look at those senators, Santorum, who go on and on about the details of homosexaul sex. you really have to wonder. I mean, Jesus Christ, Santorum spends more time speaking about what goes on in gay sex than what I would do in a whole year! and I'm gay!
Occeandrive3
30-08-2007, 16:08
Pardon.ne fait pas ca, c'est ridicule.
Avec la quantité erreurs de frappe dans cet forum.
Demented Hamsters
30-08-2007, 16:12
Amusing and also exactly the decade in which I was thinking of that one would view this as perverted. Kudos.
what was interesting about this compilation I picked up was that the horror stories before 1940s and after the 1950s were quite scary. Just the 1950s ones sucked.
nice little example of American social history.
Fassigen
30-08-2007, 16:15
ne fait pas ca, c'est ridicule.
Avec la quantité erreurs de frappe dans cet forum.

Veuillez ne pas gaspiller votre temps en me conseillant, s'il vous plaît.
R0cka
30-08-2007, 16:16
Thye part that really sucks is that John Stewart is off this week. :(

Ahhhhhh.... you don't need Stewart for this. These jokes write themselves.

You're own Private Idaho. Craig list. I'm not gay, but my boyfriend is, etc.
Remote Observer
30-08-2007, 16:17
yeah...because nudging someone taking a dump and telling them you want to suck their dick while they're 1/2 way through strangling a carrot is not perverted in the least. oh no, of course not.

I guess you think everyone who likes anal sex must also be gay too, huh?

No, but if I see you on your knees in a bathroom (and you're a guy), smoking pole, I'm going to say you're gay.

If you also happen to be married to a woman, and you enjoy sex with her, I'll say you're bi.

As for the other parts, like the dump, that's window dressing.
Occeandrive3
30-08-2007, 16:18
Veuillez ne pas gaspiller votre temps en me conseillant, s'il vous plaît.tres bien, mais n'oublie pas.. je suis aussi ton fan.. je suis un peut fassiste ;)
Demented Hamsters
30-08-2007, 16:19
As for the other parts, like the dump, that's window dressing.
window dressing? a dump?
mmm...I think I can guess why your house has never won best Xmas decorations in your street.
Fassigen
30-08-2007, 16:21
tres bien, mais n'oublie pas.. je suis aussi ton fan.. je suis un peut fassiste ;)

Les condoléances sont à moi.
R0cka
30-08-2007, 16:21
Isn't it interesting that OceanDrive thinks that gays are perverts (read his title).

I'd say trolling for sex in a filthy airport bathroom is fairly perverted.
Ordo Drakul
30-08-2007, 16:22
When these scandals break out-and they do break out on both sides-I am never surprised at the response. The Republicans will denounce the behavior, investigate, and possibly remove the man from office-Craig's removal is already being called for-while the Democrats will attack the person making the charge then ignore or defend the behavior on the most ridiculous grounds-Bill Clinton was too popular to be impeached, Barney Frank's basement bordello was something he didn't know about, Ted Kennedy is a Kennedy. You figure Newt Gingrich was forced to step down for his adultery, while Clinton's impeachment was less than a slap on the wrist. The rabid high-fiving over these scandals on the opposition side is childish and immature-these things embarass everyone, but at least one side responds in a way in keeping with their ideals.
Fassigen
30-08-2007, 16:25
I'd say trolling for sex in a filthy airport bathroom is fairly perverted.

Then you must be very naïve when it comes to sex.
Remote Observer
30-08-2007, 16:25
I'd say trolling for sex in a filthy airport bathroom is fairly perverted.

I'd say it's lacking in common sense, and manners.

I've told people to get a room before, and I don't imagine it will be the last time.
R0cka
30-08-2007, 16:39
Then you must be very naïve when it comes to sex.

No. I just don't eat or fuck in the same places I shit.
R0cka
30-08-2007, 16:48
I'd say it's lacking in common sense, and manners.

I've told people to get a room before, and I don't imagine it will be the last time.

I think it all depends on whether you went into the bathroom with someone ready to bone or if you went in alone looking for someone to bone.
Deus Malum
30-08-2007, 17:00
I was thinking in French and used "évoquer" for some reason. Pardon.

No worries. You seem the sort who enjoys meticulousness in speech. I was trying to be helpful.
Fassigen
30-08-2007, 17:00
No. I just don't eat or fuck in the same places I shit.

I doubt you fuck at all, kiddo...
Demented Hamsters
30-08-2007, 17:17
I'd say it's lacking in common sense, and manners.
depends on the reasoning behind it.
If you're gay and you're going into a public bathroom for sex because the thought of anonymous public sex thrills you then it is indeed lacking a little in decorum - not everyone who uses public bathrooms does so for sexual highjinks and they might be offended or upset by being approached for such. Also there is the possibility of being caught.
But it isn't perverted because it's not the only place you're going to get sex.

However, if you're an elderly long-time married man who has made it your life's mission to denigrate, maginalise, discriminate and insult gays yet who goes into a public bathroom (and only to public bathrooms) seeking dick - then it is perverted.
You're doing it because the thought of what you're doing gets you off, much more than the act itself - all those guilty, guilty feelings about what a bad bad person you must be. Oh! but you're such a naughty man! What would your minister say? (let's ask him, shall we - he's in the next cubicle)
The reasons why he's doing it is deviant and abnormal (not the act itself) - and this makes him perverted in the strict definition of the term.
Szanth
30-08-2007, 17:19
depends on the reasoning behind it.
If you're gay and you're going into a public bathroom for sex because the thought of anonymous public sex thrills you then it is indeed lacking a little in decorum - not everyone who uses public bathrooms does so for sexual highjinks and they might be offended or upset by being approached for such. Also there is the possibility of being caught.
But it isn't perverted because it's not the only place you're going to get sex.

However, if you're an elderly long-time married man who has made it your life's mission to denigrate, maginalise, discriminate and insult gays yet who goes into a public bathroom (and only to public bathrooms) seeking dick - then it is perverted.
You're doing it because the thought of what you're doing gets you off, much more than the act itself - all those guilty, guilty feelings about what a bad bad person you must be. Oh! but you're such a naughty man! What would your minister say? (let's ask him, shall we - he's in the next cubicle)
The reasons why he's doing it is deviant and abnormal (not the act itself) - and this makes him perverted in the strict definition of the term.

Or he's just a closet gay.
Hydesland
30-08-2007, 17:22
It may not be perverted. But it is weird when you consider that kids may be using that bathroom etc...
Demented Hamsters
30-08-2007, 17:26
Or he's just a closet gay.
True, there is that possibility.
Considering his track record and such, I'm more inclined to believe he's getting off on the "dirtiness" of what he's doing though.
R0cka
30-08-2007, 17:28
I doubt you fuck at all, kiddo...


:(

I expected a far wittier comeback.
Fassigen
30-08-2007, 17:30
It may not be perverted. But it is weird when you consider that kids may be using that bathroom etc...

I doubt kids these days have x-ray vision, or that all that many people want to have sex in front of kids.

What is it with this deranged "oh, no - teh children" nonsense? My parents had sex in the room adjacent to mine and - *gasp* - I heard them sometimes! I even walked in on them once or twice! Oh, noes, teh heterosexual horrors that warped my fragile little mind!
Fassigen
30-08-2007, 17:31
:(

I expected a far wittier comeback.

When the truth is so apparent, wit is only a needless accoutrement serving but to obfuscate it.
R0cka
30-08-2007, 17:33
When the truth is so apparent, wit is only a needless accoutrement serving but to obfuscate it.


Now that's more like it.
Occeandrive3
30-08-2007, 18:24
Then change your title. Change "pervert" to "hypocrite".I changed it to
## Republican Sex Perverts, September-07 edition (the toilet Senator)

so the word "gay" is not there anymore.
Corneliu
30-08-2007, 18:45
I changed it to
## Republican Sex Perverts, September-07 edition (the toilet Senator)

so the word "gay" is not there anymore.

I still have the original title and not your so called new one unless you made a new thread.
Johnny B Goode
30-08-2007, 18:54
for the record. I never said Gays are perverts.

This senator always spoke against Gay Marriage...
...and he called-out on Clinton sexual lifestyle.
He is an Hypocrite.

Well, he plays to his strengths.
Kyronea
30-08-2007, 19:11
Thye part that really sucks is that John Stewart is off this week. :(

Yeah...it's like everytime he and Colbert go on vacation a whole bunch of important things suddenly happen...Alberto Gonzales resigning...this....we'll probably see something else too.

Though I'm probably misinterpreting data and seeing a pattern where there isn't one again.
Szanth
30-08-2007, 19:27
Yeah...it's like everytime he and Colbert go on vacation a whole bunch of important things suddenly happen...Alberto Gonzales resigning...this....we'll probably see something else too.

Though I'm probably misinterpreting data and seeing a pattern where there isn't one again.

No, it's true. The universe as a whole fears being exposed and mocked on late-night Comedy Central pseudo-news shows. Fears it like the plague.
Johnny B Goode
30-08-2007, 19:34
I doubt kids these days have x-ray vision, or that all that many people want to have sex in front of kids.

What is it with this deranged "oh, no - teh children" nonsense? My parents had sex in the room adjacent to mine and - *gasp* - I heard them sometimes! I even walked in on them once or twice! Oh, noes, teh heterosexual horrors that warped my fragile little mind!

Amen. What's the value of innocence anyway?
Skaladora
30-08-2007, 19:46
Amen. What's the value of innocence anyway?

I'd pay a penny for it. Not worth that much more, in my opinion.

But the previous comment was right: "OH NOES, think of the children, why won't you PLEASE think of the children?" is a simple emotional appeal, and whenever I hear that come up in in an argument I instantly lose a lot of respect and consideration for the side of the argument who brought it up.
R0cka
30-08-2007, 20:07
I'd pay a penny for it. Not worth that much more, in my opinion.

But the previous comment was right: "OH NOES, think of the children, why won't you PLEASE think of the children?" is a simple emotional appeal, and whenever I hear that come up in in an argument I instantly lose a lot of respect and consideration for the side of the argument who brought it up.

So you think it's a wonderful thing to have perverts trolling for sex in public bathrooms?
R0cka
30-08-2007, 20:09
I changed it to
## Republican Sex Perverts, September-07 edition (the toilet Senator)

so the word "gay" is not there anymore.

Why? The homosexual aspect is relevant in this instance.
Neesika
30-08-2007, 20:30
yeah...because nudging someone taking a dump and telling them you want to suck their dick while they're 1/2 way through strangling a carrot is not perverted in the least. oh no, of course not.

I guess you think everyone who likes anal sex must also be gay too, huh?

:rolleyes:

Kind of like you think bathroom sex has to involve feces or urination?
Neesika
30-08-2007, 20:36
So you think it's a wonderful thing to have perverts trolling for sex in public bathrooms?

Who cares?
Skaladora
30-08-2007, 20:59
So you think it's a wonderful thing to have perverts trolling for sex in public bathrooms?
It's just plain stupid and a thinly-veiled attempt at emotional appeal to scream "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" when it is very clear nothing ever involved children in those bathrooms. To add that emotional appeal is to pathetically attempt to link child molestation to something that has nothing to do with child molestation. A gay man, no matter how deeply closeted and living his sexuality anonymously, remains attracted to men, not children.

Anonymous sex in bathrooms is hardly my thing, nor my idea of a healthy, fulfilling sex life, but whatever goes between consenting adults and stays between consenting adults is none of my, or your's, business.


Who cares?

My point exactly.
R0cka
30-08-2007, 21:17
It's just plain stupid and a thinly-veiled attempt at emotional appeal to scream "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" when it is very clear nothing ever involved children in those bathrooms. To add that emotional appeal is to pathetically attempt to link child molestation to something that has nothing to do with child molestation. A gay man, no matter how deeply closeted and living his sexuality anonymously, remains attracted to men, not children..

It's a public bathroom.

Children use it.

I don't want my children having to listen to, or see, perverts screwing there brains out, while they're trying to take a shit.
R0cka
30-08-2007, 21:22
Who cares?

People taking shits, people taking pisses, people changing diapers, people freshening up................

You know, the people using the bathroom for what it was intended for.
Liuzzo
30-08-2007, 21:27
But the question is...his he truly gay?

umm, what do you call someone who actively seeks out sexual encounters with members of their same sex? It surely isn't straight! Hell, he may be bi, but when you fornicate with those of the same sex...
Corneliu
30-08-2007, 21:29
umm, what do you call someone who actively seeks out sexual encounters with members of their same sex? It surely isn't straight! Hell, he may be bi, but when you fornicate with those of the same sex...

Fornicating with members of the same sex does not make one guy. You said it yourself that he could be bi.
R0cka
30-08-2007, 21:31
:rolleyes:

Kind of like you think bathroom sex has to involve feces or urination?

Those stalls aren't wiped down with bleach after every use.

They're saturated with microscopic fecal and urinary matter from hundreds of people.

So yes, public bathroom sex has to involve feces and urination.
Johnny B Goode
30-08-2007, 22:29
I'd pay a penny for it. Not worth that much more, in my opinion.

But the previous comment was right: "OH NOES, think of the children, why won't you PLEASE think of the children?" is a simple emotional appeal, and whenever I hear that come up in in an argument I instantly lose a lot of respect and consideration for the side of the argument who brought it up.

It pisses me off, mostly because it ruins good anime. And I lost my innocence a couple of years ago (when I started watching That 70s Show). I haven't missed it. I'd rather not have it back.
Andaras Prime
30-08-2007, 22:41
Hopefully but my bet is they won't.

Corneliu: Uncovering Leftist Conspiracies for YOU!
Skaladora
30-08-2007, 22:43
It's a public bathroom.

Children use it.

I don't want my children having to listen to, or see, perverts screwing there brains out, while they're trying to take a shit.

Obviously this has never happened or the officer investigating the case would have arrested the shit out of anyone involved in having sex purposefully in front of children.

A bathroom in an airport sees very few children. So does bathrooms in workplaces and other such locations. I expect the men hunting for bathroom sex have the decency not to do so in middle-school bathrooms.

So stop implying things that never happened, and trying to aggravate what is otherwise a pretty minor and inconsequential infraction with your cries of "OH NOES THEY R HAVING TEH SEX IN FRONT OF OUR POOR INNOCENT CHILDREN".

Sheesh.
Copiosa Scotia
30-08-2007, 22:45
I'd pay a penny for it. Not worth that much more, in my opinion.

To get yours back, or to obtain someone else's?
Occeandrive3
30-08-2007, 22:48
The homosexual aspect is relevant in this instance.Ill be the Judge of that.

*thinks about it*
...

Its not relevant.
.. my target is this Senator.. not all the gay people.
Skaladora
30-08-2007, 22:56
To get yours back, or to obtain someone else's?

Someone else's. Otherwise it's just not as much fun :D
Liuzzo
31-08-2007, 02:08
Fornicating with members of the same sex does not make one guy. You said it yourself that he could be bi.

Using the word guy is hilarious. This is a pretty silly technicality. Is he straight?
Kelonian States
31-08-2007, 03:09
Obviously this has never happened or the officer investigating the case would have arrested the shit out of anyone involved in having sex purposefully in front of children.

A bathroom in an airport sees very few children. So does bathrooms in workplaces and other such locations. I expect the men hunting for bathroom sex have the decency not to do so in middle-school bathrooms.

So stop implying things that never happened, and trying to aggravate what is otherwise a pretty minor and inconsequential infraction with your cries of "OH NOES THEY R HAVING TEH SEX IN FRONT OF OUR POOR INNOCENT CHILDREN".

Sheesh.

Alright, it's nothing to do with children, I personally don't want to walk in to take a piss in a public bathroom and see two guys (or a girl and a guy, or two girls, or six midgets and a circus elephant, whatever) going at it, or being trolled for sex by anyone. I want to go in there, unbutton my pants, take a piss, wash my hands and leave without seeing or hearing anyone humping away in an adjacent cubicle.

If you think that's perfectly normal acceptable behaviour to be indulging in you would be wrong - it's a public space and I have the right not to be made to feel uncomfortable in that space because some jackass is too scared of his own sexuality to come out and get a boyfriend, or at least a male prostitute and a hotel room. I don't come and fuck strangers on your driveway, I don't expect you (the general you, I'm not implying you do anything specifically) to come and fuck next to me while I'm trying to take a dump.

I think this whole thread has become decidedly silly when it was clearly intended to be mocking a Republican senator who called out Clinton on morality doing something that, if Clinton had done it, he'd have jumped all over screaming about Liberal sexual deviants, not a swipe at gays, perverts or people who get their rocks off fucking strangers in public bathrooms. The original poster just phrased it badly and is digging themselves a bigger and bigger hole trying to get out.

It's nothing to do with children, I don't having to listen to, or see, [people who get their rocks off screwing strangers in airport bathrooms, whether you consider that perverted or not is a moral judgement I'm not even going to bother getting into] screwing there brains out while I'm trying to take a shit. This isn't difficult.
Demented Hamsters
31-08-2007, 03:16
:rolleyes:

Kind of like you think bathroom sex has to involve feces or urination?
:rolleyes:

Kind of like you o read yet not comprehend a single word I wrote in my post?
Soheran
31-08-2007, 03:21
I don't think it's immoral, perverted, or unacceptable to have sex in public bathrooms.

But Larry Craig and his anti-gay political stances can go to hell.
Bottomboys
31-08-2007, 03:46
These my opinions in a nutshell:

1) Those who do engage in 'toilet sex' tend to be those either in the closer or in relationships. Its in a situation where by there is relative anonymity. Sure, they could go to a gay bar or sex on site venue, but someone could see them. Going to the toilet? no one things twice about that sort of thing.

2) Those who scream the loudest have the most to hide. I find it funny that those who slam gays such as me tend to firstly know more about gay sex - a friend and I sat down to hear Santorum on an interview, both my friend and I were learning new and kinky gay sex acts I had never heard of! I really question their straightness.

3) If you character assinate others off the back of family values then expect that your personal life will be put under the microscope for any miss steps, even perceived miss steps which could be viewed as hypocracy.
Gartref
31-08-2007, 04:08
I think it's perverted when straight senators engage in gay restroom sex. I'm totally cool with gay guys doing it.
Soheran
31-08-2007, 04:20
straight senators

Larry Craig is, in all likelihood, not a straight senator.
Copiosa Scotia
31-08-2007, 04:40
I think it's perverted when straight senators engage in gay restroom sex. I'm totally cool with gay guys doing it.

I'm okay with straight guys who aren't senators doing it. I'm uncomfortable with the idea of most senators having sex under any circumstances.
Soheran
31-08-2007, 04:43
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of most senators having sex under any circumstances.

I don't know if having sexually-repressed politicians is particularly good for any country.
Corneliu
31-08-2007, 06:04
Using the word guy is hilarious. This is a pretty silly technicality. Is he straight?

Again, he maybe or he may not be. I do not care if he is or is not. I just want this story gone because its stupid. He pled guilty, end of story.
Occeandrive3
31-08-2007, 13:17
I just want this story gone because its stupid. He pled guilty, end of story.http://youtube.com/watch?v=OFwBSDznfbQ
Corneliu
31-08-2007, 14:41
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OFwBSDznfbQ

um ok...?
Australiasiaville
31-08-2007, 14:47
for the record. I never said Gays are perverts.

This senator always spoke against Gay Marriage...
...and he called-out on Clinton sexual lifestyle.
He is an Hypocrite.

lol, you actually wrote 'an'. I don't know whether to congratulate you or punch you in the face. :p
Szanth
31-08-2007, 16:35
Those stalls aren't wiped down with bleach after every use.

They're saturated with microscopic fecal and urinary matter from hundreds of people.

So yes, public bathroom sex has to involve feces and urination.

Sorry to break it to you, but that microscopic fecal matter is everywhere. It's everywhere in your house, in your kitchen, in your bedroom.

So what were you saying?
Remote Observer
31-08-2007, 16:39
Sorry to break it to you, but that microscopic fecal matter is everywhere. It's everywhere in your house, in your kitchen, in your bedroom.

So what were you saying?

It's also in that bowl of peanuts and the bowl of crisps at the bar...
Szanth
31-08-2007, 17:01
It's also in that bowl of peanuts and the bowl of crisps at the bar...

Oh especially there.
Occeandrive3
31-08-2007, 17:26
I don't know whether to congratulate you or punch you in the face. :pyeah I know..

mixed and/or extreme feelings about ##.
sumethinklikethiz: "I like ## and I want to punch him at the same time."

Welcome to NSG.

ah.. -i almost forgot- If you want to punch me in the face, You have to take a number. :p
Liuzzo
31-08-2007, 20:59
Again, he maybe or he may not be. I do not care if he is or is not. I just want this story gone because its stupid. He pled guilty, end of story.

Not really the end of the story because this jackass is making it last longer. Now he's saying, " I did nothing wrong and shouldn't have plead guilty." You're Fing guilty, now accept your consequences. I guess accepting consequences is for other people and not US senators.
Corneliu
31-08-2007, 21:00
Not really the end of the story because this jackass is making it last longer. Now he's saying, " I did nothing wrong and shouldn't have plead guilty." You're Fing guilty, now accept your consequences. I guess accepting consequences is for other people and not US senators.

Actually...the media is making this a bigger story than it actually is.
The Gay Street Militia
31-08-2007, 21:18
But the question is...his he truly gay?

Gawd, I hope not. I don't want him on our team-- self-hater would probably throw the whole game just to spite the rest of us. Plus if he ever showed up at one of our parties he'd probably bring at least one of his douchebag neocon buddies so he'd have someone to talk to if the rest of us shunned him, and even one of those people can bring a whole room down.
The Gay Street Militia
31-08-2007, 21:26
This reminds me of a 'horror' short-story I read recently, written circa 1951.
Last man and woman alive, after a nuclear and biological worldwar. Humanity doomed to extinction because
...
(shocked gasp)
...
she refuses to marry him to carry on the human race because there's no minister alive to perform the ceremony.


Had the story's author not heard of (gasp) inbreeding? :-P I think I'd rather see humanity go extinct than slog it out for a few more miserable generations as inbreeds. No way could one man and one woman-- no matter their age and fertility-- produce enough children to establish a viable genetic base for the whole species to prosper.

Writing in the 50's sucked. hehe.
The Gay Street Militia
31-08-2007, 22:47
So you think it's a wonderful thing to have perverts trolling for sex in public bathrooms?


While I've never done the do in a public restroom-- and was kinda icked-out when some guy in an adjacent stall tried to cruise me once (he had ugly shoes, so I didn't even want to see the rest of him)-- I've got to kinda wonder... why do so many people automatically anyone who cruises in the bathroom a "pervert?" I mean, yes, I would prefer a more sexually liberal world wherein no one felt the need to be in the closet and anywhere you saw someone you wanted to get with you could just approach them and ask (and, if you got turned down, get turned down without violence or outcry). And in such a world, cruising a bathroom would be unnecessary. But, given the fucked-up repressed homophobic environment that a lot of people live in, where else could they discreetly, privately proposition someone?

This isn't means a defense of Sen. Coquette da la toilette, beacuse I find him generally indefensible-- legalistically bashing fags 9 to 5 and asking them for fellatio in his off-hours while not being one (or not having the guts to identify as one, even when caught). However, taken in the context of a society where some people feel they can't make advances out in the open, I don't think the specific act of propositioning someone in a bathroom is 'perverted.'

It reminds me of the other story I was reading today, about that wretched idiot Tucker Carlson... he's being lambasted (or defended) in a lot of blogs because he and his wretched idiot buddies were giggling hysterically to themselves while he bragged on-air about how when he was in high school some 'pervert' came on to him (via a grope-- which was inappropriate, one should have permission before one takes another groin in hand) in a public washroom. According to Carlson, he bravely went and got a buddy and they returned to the washroom to smack the guy's head against a wall and detain him for the cops. Some people are screaming that he's confessed to a gay bashing, others are shrilling that "the pervert (and a lot of them automatically add 'pedophile' even though no mention was made of the other guy's age-- he could have been another high school student for all we know). Carlson himself says "I'm not anti-gay, I was just disgusted at being groped in the restroom."

Again there's questions of context. When that bowtied schlep was in highschool, I imagine it was even harder for guys to hook up in the open, so bathroom come-on's (no pun intended) were even more common. Plus, again, there's all the indignation that because Tucker was "in high school," that the guy coming on to him *must* have been a pervert, with no one asking whether the guy was the same age, or older and aware of the age difference, or older but thinking he was coming on to someone who was legal. Because if they were the same age, well then hello-- when I was in high school, a *lot* of the sex that went on between my peers happened in bathrooms :-P And yet people say "think of the innocent children." Hah!
The Gay Street Militia
31-08-2007, 22:54
[...] I don't come and fuck strangers on your driveway[...]

And why the heck don't you? Dang, that could be hot... well, depending on what you and the other person look like. But if you're hot and you've got a hot stranger to get it on with, I'll lay out a blanket 'n everything... :-D
New Granada
01-09-2007, 09:30
One more deviant, depraved, indecent republican sex fiend uncovered... and the cherry on top, he's a homo.

Gay sex in public restrooms... with strangers...

His wife should get STD tested, poor woman.
Nobel Hobos
01-09-2007, 13:46
One more deviant, depraved, indecent republican sex fiend uncovered... and the cherry on top, he's a homo.

Gay sex in public restrooms... with strangers...

His wife should get STD tested, poor woman.

Poor? I doubt it.
Corneliu
01-09-2007, 14:28
One more deviant, depraved, indecent republican sex fiend uncovered... and the cherry on top, he's a homo.

Is that a known fact now?
Soheran
01-09-2007, 14:29
One more deviant, depraved, indecent republican sex fiend uncovered... and the cherry on top, he's a homo.

:rolleyes:
Soheran
01-09-2007, 14:31
Is that a known fact now?

While he could merely be bisexual, most straight men don't go cruising for sex with other men.
Ashmoria
01-09-2007, 14:35
While I've never done the do in a public restroom-- and was kinda icked-out when some guy in an adjacent stall tried to cruise me once (he had ugly shoes, so I didn't even want to see the rest of him)-- I've got to kinda wonder... why do so many people automatically anyone who cruises in the bathroom a "pervert?" I mean, yes, I would prefer a more sexually liberal world wherein no one felt the need to be in the closet and anywhere you saw someone you wanted to get with you could just approach them and ask (and, if you got turned down, get turned down without violence or outcry). And in such a world, cruising a bathroom would be unnecessary. But, given the fucked-up repressed homophobic environment that a lot of people live in, where else could they discreetly, privately proposition someone?

This isn't means a defense of Sen. Coquette da la toilette, beacuse I find him generally indefensible-- legalistically bashing fags 9 to 5 and asking them for fellatio in his off-hours while not being one (or not having the guts to identify as one, even when caught). However, taken in the context of a society where some people feel they can't make advances out in the open, I don't think the specific act of propositioning someone in a bathroom is 'perverted.'

It reminds me of the other story I was reading today, about that wretched idiot Tucker Carlson... he's being lambasted (or defended) in a lot of blogs because he and his wretched idiot buddies were giggling hysterically to themselves while he bragged on-air about how when he was in high school some 'pervert' came on to him (via a grope-- which was inappropriate, one should have permission before one takes another groin in hand) in a public washroom. According to Carlson, he bravely went and got a buddy and they returned to the washroom to smack the guy's head against a wall and detain him for the cops. Some people are screaming that he's confessed to a gay bashing, others are shrilling that "the pervert (and a lot of them automatically add 'pedophile' even though no mention was made of the other guy's age-- he could have been another high school student for all we know). Carlson himself says "I'm not anti-gay, I was just disgusted at being groped in the restroom."

Again there's questions of context. When that bowtied schlep was in highschool, I imagine it was even harder for guys to hook up in the open, so bathroom come-on's (no pun intended) were even more common. Plus, again, there's all the indignation that because Tucker was "in high school," that the guy coming on to him *must* have been a pervert, with no one asking whether the guy was the same age, or older and aware of the age difference, or older but thinking he was coming on to someone who was legal. Because if they were the same age, well then hello-- when I was in high school, a *lot* of the sex that went on between my peers happened in bathrooms :-P And yet people say "think of the innocent children." Hah!

a pervert is someone who does a sex act that *I* wouldnt do

(by *I* i dont mean me, i mean the generic person who is calling someone else a pervert, including, i suppose, me)

so for most people solicting sex from strangers in public bathrooms is indeed perversion. its only really inappropriate if you also have sex in the bathroom.

or, i suppose if you proposition the likely-to-be unwilling in a crude fashion as happened to poor mr carlson.

so tucker carlson is proud that he got crudely propostioned and instead of just walking away he GOT A FRIEND and went back to beat the guy up. i can see why people assume that it was some burly adult who was preying on young teens. if mr carlson needed a friend to help him beat up another student that would make him ...less than admirable.
Nobel Hobos
01-09-2007, 15:34
Stuff the quibbling about whether bi people are gay. They are both gay and straight in that they are attracted to those of their own sex, and those of the opposite respectively. Saying that a bi person is "not gay" or "not straight" is just inane, a quibbling over definitions.

Can we have any doubt that when the Senator declares "I am not gay" he means "I do not have sexual relations with men"? Why should we leave him some middle ground, to later claim he didn't lie, because really he's bi?

In the context of what he was charged with, soliciting sex in an inappropriate location, it's pretty plain what he means by "gay."
Ashmoria
01-09-2007, 18:14
Stuff the quibbling about whether bi people are gay. They are both gay and straight in that they are attracted to those of their own sex, and those of the opposite respectively. Saying that a bi person is "not gay" or "not straight" is just inane, a quibbling over definitions.

Can we have any doubt that when the Senator declares "I am not gay" he means "I do not have sexual relations with men"? Why should we leave him some middle ground, to later claim he didn't lie, because really he's bi?

In the context of what he was charged with, soliciting sex in an inappropriate location, it's pretty plain what he means by "gay."

very right. there is no need to use any definition but his own.

but if one were to want to think about it outside his dissembling, it might be that he is bi; it may be that he is a pretty much gay guy who only married to hide his true orientation; it might be that he is a pretty much straight guy who very much enjoys the thrill of anonymous bathroom sex now and then.
Luporum
01-09-2007, 18:24
Isn't it interesting that OceanDrive thinks that gays are perverts (read his title).

I must have missed that, good catch.

*Slams ##*
The Brevious
02-09-2007, 10:29
While he could merely be bisexual, most straight men don't go cruising for sex with other men.

Wasn't he paid off by teh ebil libruhls to help further sink the bastion of integrity that is the Republican party in their dire hour?
*ducks*
Andaras Prime
02-09-2007, 10:59
How is free sexuality perversion or somehow immoral? Need I remind the forum that Plato, Aristotle and the other founders of modern moral ethics were all regularly in erotic partnerships with both men and women.
Callisdrun
02-09-2007, 11:28
Mmm... irony.

I love how he's blathering on about how he's supposedly not gay. It seems as though he doesn't grasp what the offense he committed actually was. Being homosexual is not a crime. Soliciting sex in an airport bathroom apparently is. Though, to the republican party, the former might actually be the more unacceptable of the two, given their "family values" shtick.

And even if it shouldn't be... it's definitely not very smooth...

Seriously, if you're going to be cheating on your partner, whether with men or women... one might want to be a little more discreet.
Intangelon
02-09-2007, 19:19
Having heard the police tapes, I still don't understand why the senator was arrested, and what AIRPORT SECURITY cops are doing trying to catch someone who was at worst making a decidedly faint sexual overture, instead of patrolling the concourses?

I may not be a fan of Republicans overall, but if one goes down, I'd rather it be for the shady patronage deals and lobbying/pork horseshit than anything as personal and unthreatening to anyone else as MAYBE asking for a hummer in a stall at the airport.
The Gay Street Militia
02-09-2007, 19:59
so tucker carlson is proud that he got crudely propostioned and instead of just walking away he GOT A FRIEND and went back to beat the guy up. i can see why people assume that it was some burly adult who was preying on young teens. if mr carlson needed a friend to help him beat up another student that would make him ...less than admirable.


Well given how less-than-admirable Tucker is-- and likely has been since his first word-- I could totally believe that the big, bad, intimidating predator was some bepimpled immobilised-obese kid several years Carlson's junior who reached out of his iron lung to cop a feel.

Tucker: "Dude! Some fag on a respirator grabbed my balls in the bathroom! Plus he made fun of my bowtie!"

Friend: "Dude! You should totally kick his ass!"

Tucker: "Yeah, totally, but you have to come with me-- he was, like, armour plated, and has gay cooties, and if he got the upper hand he might bumsex me against my will!"
Ashmoria
02-09-2007, 20:04
Well given how less-than-admirable Tucker is-- and likely has been since his first word-- I could totally believe that the big, bad, intimidating predator was some bepimpled immobilised-obese kid several years Carlson's junior who reached out of his iron lung to cop a feel.

Tucker: "Dude! Some fag on a respirator grabbed my balls in the bathroom! Plus he made fun of my bowtie!"

Friend: "Dude! You should totally kick his ass!"

Tucker: "Yeah, totally, but you have to come with me-- he was, like, armour plated, and has gay cooties, and if he got the upper hand he might bumsex me against my will!"

yeah thats exactly what im thinking. if it had been an incident with an adult predator, he would have said so.
Ashmoria
02-09-2007, 20:11
Having heard the police tapes, I still don't understand why the senator was arrested, and what AIRPORT SECURITY cops are doing trying to catch someone who was at worst making a decidedly faint sexual overture, instead of patrolling the concourses?

I may not be a fan of Republicans overall, but if one goes down, I'd rather it be for the shady patronage deals and lobbying/pork horseshit than anything as personal and unthreatening to anyone else as MAYBE asking for a hummer in a stall at the airport.

they werent targetting the senator.

it seems that they felt that this sexual solicitation in the airport bathrooms was out of hand. the only way to deal with it is to let the men who do it know that they might get caught and publicly embarrassed by it.

im not sure how much of a problem it CAN be when everyone on the plane side of security has to be taking a flight. *shrug*

in any case, its yucky to go into a bathroom where men are having sex in the stalls (and it keeps the stalls busier than they would otherwise be) so its best to have the practice curtailed.

youll notice that the sentor was busted for "disorderly conduct". when it was revealed to be a sexual misdemeanor the party HAD to drive him out of office even though it had nothing whatsoever to do with his job. it puts them on the moral highground. *gag*
The Cat-Tribe
03-09-2007, 01:57
But the question is...his he truly gay?

Again, he maybe or he may not be. I do not care if he is or is not. I just want this story gone because its stupid. He pled guilty, end of story.

Curious how you went from focusing on whether Craig is gay to claiming that you do not care if he is or not.

Perhaps you haven't been following the story, but the story wasn't over until Craig resigned. Even then it remains a case study in deception and hypocrisy.

Craig, btw, is the one making the rather baffling claim that he was innocent despite having admitted his guilt by pleading guilty.
Corneliu
03-09-2007, 01:58
Curious how you went from focusing on whether Craig is gay to claiming that you do not care if he is or not.

So I have to care if he is gay to say but is he gay? CT, get off of it. People were making claims that he was gay. Hence why I asked but is he gay when allegations came out.

Perhaps you haven't been following the story, but the story wasn't over until Craig resigned. Even then it remains a case study in deception and hypocrisy.

I agree about the hypocracy but really...the only reason this was a story at all is that he was a Senator caught in a lie. Otherwise, this would not have been worth mentioning on the 6 o'clock news.

Craig, btw, is the one making the rather baffling claim that he was innocent despite having admitted his guilt by pleading guilty.

Agreed 100%
The Cat-Tribe
03-09-2007, 03:02
But the question is...his he truly gay?

Fornicating with members of the same sex does not make one guy. You said it yourself that he could be bi.

Is that a known fact now?

So I have to care if he is gay to say but is he gay? CT, get off of it. People were making claims that he was gay. Hence why I asked but is he gay when allegations came out.

*sigh*

The main -- and only -- issue you posted about in this thread and about which you posted at least 3 times was whether Larry Craig is or is not gay.

... but you have no interest in whether or not he is gay. Whatever. :rolleyes:

If, despite not caring, you wish to read about whether Craig has secretely sought homosexual contact, read this (http://www.idahostatesman.com/larrycraig/story/143801.html) (as well as other stories at this source (http://www.idahostatesman.com/1264)).



I agree about the hypocracy but really...the only reason this was a story at all is that he was a Senator caught in a lie. Otherwise, this would not have been worth mentioning on the 6 o'clock news.


Gee. It's news because a U.S. Senator pled guilty to a crime. It's news because an arch-conservative, gay-bashing U.S. Senator that harshly criticized Clinton's sexual activities was proven to be a lying hypocrite. Go figure.
Skaladora
03-09-2007, 04:20
It's news because an arch-conservative, gay-bashing U.S. Senator that harshly criticized Clinton's sexual activities was proven to be a lying hypocrite. Go figure.
Yeah. Life has a nifty way of dealing with retarded, stupid, close-minded people. Edit: forgot "hateful"

It's called irony, and its taste is delicious to me. :D