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When I got here, it was a happy place. There was only one troll, no slamfests, and very few flames. Now, it seems to be people mindlessly attacking others and trolling a lot, the OP of every thread is slammed, and people are feeding the trolls. I just have to ask, is this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13007284&postcount=78) really what's happened? Or am I in some kind of hardcore nostalgia?

I feed trolls for my own amusement.

I feed trolls for my own amusement.

I don't find it really that amusing, but then again I have no soul. (That's why I have extremely cold hands and feet)

I've been here off and on for two years now, and it doesn't seem to be any different to me.

Yes, some of the people's answer to any thread is "WTF!? OMFG! You fucking troll!" no matter how cogent the post.

But it's always been that way.

Yeah I been here for about two years and it seem much the same as internet forums everywhere.

Yeah I been here for about two years and it seem much the same as internet forums everywhere.

Yes!

Welcome to teh Internets...

Yeah I been here for about two years and it seem much the same as internet forums everywhere.

I've been here off and on for two years now, and it doesn't seem to be any different to me.

Yes, some of the people's answer to any thread is "WTF!? OMFG! You fucking troll!" no matter how cogent the post.

But it's always been that way.Yeah, well, I've been here for five and a half years! :p

And, well, I agree with you. It's always been pretty much the same. Things just tend to dry up in the summer.

People do seem a little quick to attack others here, I wonder if they'd be the same without the protection of a computer screen? ;)

It's changed all right. Though having been here a long time, I'd have to say that overall the improvements outweigh the influx of trolls and the instances of flaming and the like.

There were far more retarded threads when I started out here than there are today. There were more people who flamed; there were more trolls. Generally as rules became more fixed in stone, people started to behave a little better.

We're still not that much better than monkeys who fling shit at each other but hey, evolution didn't happen over night.

It started going downhill long before the OP joined. I can't imagine there much to be "nostalgic" about with regards to October 2006...

It really hasn't changed over the past year since I was around last. (Curse the research lab.) Unfortunately people have become a little more frequent in namecalling for no apparent reason.

It's probably that people have lost a thing called tact and general arguing techniques.

People do seem a little quick to attack others here, I wonder if they'd be the same without the protection of a computer screen? ;)

They probably wouldn't.

On the subject of how hostile some people here are to each other, I'm not saying I wouldn't buy Pantless a beer and drink with him, but I'm not sure he would bother showing up to the bar.

I still remember my first day on NSG. I popped into the forum, my first forum, and was christened to the splattering blood of a troll named 'FireAntz' as Fass eviscerated him in a thread whose topic was too drenched in the freshly dropped bowels of this troll to be of any relevance.

It was that day that I decided I actually quite liked forums, and Fass. If anything, they should instead be called Colloseums, not forums, for it is the verbal bloodsport that brings us all here. None of this shit actully matters, or means anything. We just like skirmishing. It's good excercise, if nothing else. The 'debate' that goes on here would be akin to the 'war' that goes on in Ysgard. Endless, pointless, and ultimately empty, yet concurrently and remarkably satisfying and enjoyable.

Hasn't changed much for me.

Before, there were healthy debates; there were constructive arguments without one side being branded "trolls" because of their views. Now, there is a consensus which has led to group-think; anybody who dares question the status quo is automatically labeled a "troll." Yes, it has changed for the worse.

It really hasn't changed over the past year since I was around last. (Curse the research lab.) Unfortunately people have become a little more frequent in namecalling for no apparent reason.

It's probably that people have lost a thing called tact and general arguing techniques.

Thats not fookin' true, who are you calling tactless ya fookin' parrot face!;)

I feed trolls for my own amusement.

I feed the trolls to fatten them up... SO I CAN EAT THEM MUHAWHAWHAW :D

Before, there were healthy debates; there were constructive arguments without one side being branded "trolls" because of their views. Now, there is a consensus which has led to group-think; anybody who dares question the status quo is automatically labeled a "troll." Yes, it has changed for the worse.
FreedomAndGlory
Join date: Mar 2007

FreedomAndGlory
Join date: Mar 2007

Perhaps this is an admission that he was in fact MTAE.

I wish to change my opinion. NS forums have changed. They refuse to post every other thing I say and they are not even offensive. It says I need to be scanned by a moderator and then it never gets posted. This never used to happen.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511849

[edit: added the post I was originally going to make to this thread, below]

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=410573 happened for a reason. I also wish there was a good Marathon-Kitsylvania thread around somewhere just to show how it used to be. And the old General Forum Royalty don't really exist here anymore either.

So yes, things have changed. There have always been flame wars and such, but the amount of social threads and such have rather declined.

it's certainly less engaging than it was when i joined.

Things change. There seems to be less social interaction here than previous but whatever happens, happens. We've just got to deal with it.

Thank you. Gotta start getting my post count higher again.

OK this is ten, let's hope life changes.

FreedomAndGlory
Join date: Mar 2007

Perhaps this is an admission that he was in fact MTAE.

No, I take it as an admission that things got worse because he joined up in March of 2007. ;)

I'm an evil little weasel, aren't I? :)

There seems to be fewer social threads now, but other than that it's about the same.

Yeah, well, I've been here for five and a half years! :pOMG! Timewarp from the future! ;)

It started going downhill long before the OP joined. I can't imagine there much to be "nostalgic" about with regards to October 2006...

I suppose so, but I liked it better then.

It's changed all right. Though having been here a long time, I'd have to say that overall the improvements outweigh the influx of trolls and the instances of flaming and the like.

There were far more retarded threads when I started out here than there are today. There were more people who flamed; there were more trolls. Generally as rules became more fixed in stone, people started to behave a little better.

We're still not that much better than monkeys who fling shit at each other but hey, evolution didn't happen over night.

Right.

People do seem a little quick to attack others here, I wonder if they'd be the same without the protection of a computer screen? ;)

Probably not. Even I do it sometimes, and I wouldn't.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511849

[edit: added the post I was originally going to make to this thread, below]

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=410573 happened for a reason. I also wish there was a good Marathon-Kitsylvania thread around somewhere just to show how it used to be. And the old General Forum Royalty don't really exist here anymore either.

So yes, things have changed. There have always been flame wars and such, but the amount of social threads and such have rather declined.

Yeah. I guess that's what I was trying to get at. It makes the forum seem less happy. I'm not posting as regularly as I used to.

OK this is ten, let's hope life changes.

Meh, I'm over ten posts and I still get 'Approved' half the time. As far as I know, my first NS nation on the forums, 'Nova Pictavia', never got this at all...

There used to be the Nazi of the week when I first joined.

The tone of debate has always been a bit savage.

The relative strength of the debaters comes and goes, the subjects are on a cycle.

If you think we're nasty now, wait until the US elections get in full swing. As we get closer to it even people who are okay with the Americans on here become sick to death of us and want to run us through with a pike.

When I got here, it was a happy place. There was only one troll, no slamfests, and very few flames. Now, it seems to be people mindlessly attacking others and trolling a lot, the OP of every thread is slammed, and people are feeding the trolls. I just have to ask, is this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13007284&postcount=78) really what's happened? Or am I in some kind of hardcore nostalgia?

In a medium where one cannot be identified or punched in the face, a lot of people forget the common courtesies of manners and respect. It's not NSG - it's the Internet, and it's not new.

There used to be the Nazi of the week when I first joined.

The tone of debate has always been a bit savage.

The relative strength of the debaters comes and goes, the subjects are on a cycle.

If you think we're nasty now, wait until the US elections get in full swing. As we get closer to it even people who are okay with the Americans on here become sick to death of us and want to run us through with a pike.

Ugh, please, 2004 sucked big.

There used to be the Nazi of the week when I first joined.

The tone of debate has always been a bit savage.

The relative strength of the debaters comes and goes, the subjects are on a cycle.

If you think we're nasty now, wait until the US elections get in full swing. As we get closer to it even people who are okay with the Americans on here become sick to death of us and want to run us through with a pike.

Whatever happened to that Calvinist guy?

Whatever happened to that Calvinist guy?

I barely keep track of people 'round here.

I'm horrible with names (who would have guessed?) and don't often remember who is who. I imagine that whoever you're talking about had the same thing happen that everyone who left did, they found something else to occupy their time.

Whatever happened to that Calvinist guy?

What was his name again?

What was his name again?

That's what I'm trying to remember - he was all up about The Elect (he believed he was one of The Elect).

Whatever happened to that Calvinist guy?

He messaged me for a while after that ... he was not a nice dude I had to block him

He messaged me for a while after that ... he was not a nice dude I had to block him

He was freaky. I also remember a few Nazis over the years.

When I got here, it was a happy place. There was only one troll, no slamfests, and very few flames. Now, it seems to be people mindlessly attacking others and trolling a lot, the OP of every thread is slammed, and people are feeding the trolls. I just have to ask, is this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13007284&postcount=78) really what's happened? Or am I in some kind of hardcore nostalgia?
I'd go for the nostalgia option. The only real changes I've noticed over my years here are fluctuations in activity levels.

Ugh, please, 2004 sucked big.

Yeh, I'd say 2008 heading into 2009 will suck for you mods. :(

Clearly, the solution is to bring back Forum 7. One of the best parts of 2004, IMO. ;)

He messaged me for a while after that ... he was not a nice dude I had to block him

I think insane is probably a lot closer to the truth. He basically hated everyone who was not white and Calvinist, was a frightening gun nut (as opposed to your average gun aficionado), wrote repeatedly about female characters being raped, thought all women were whores, and was planning to build his bunker off in the woods.

I think insane is probably a lot closer to the truth. He basically hated everyone who was not white and Calvinist, was a frightening gun nut (as opposed to your average gun aficionado), wrote repeatedly about female characters being raped, thought all women were whores, and was planning to build his bunker off in the woods.

It was apparent to me that his knowledge of firearms was rudimentary at best.

What was his name again?

That was Communist Mississippi / Decisive Action / VoteEarly, right? It's been a while, although I do remember the day he signed into #nationstates_general. It was a good way to raise an op's blood pressure....

It was apparent to me that his knowledge of firearms was rudimentary at best.

That's part of what made me think him dangerous -- that and the bunker mentality.

That was Communist Mississippi / Decisive Action / VoteEarly, right? It's been a while, although I do remember the day he signed into #nationstates_general. It was a good way to raise an op's blood pressure....

And there was much rejoicing when his misogynistic backside was the last thing we saw of him.

I think insane is probably a lot closer to the truth. He basically hated everyone who was not white and Calvinist, was a frightening gun nut (as opposed to your average gun aficionado), wrote repeatedly about female characters being raped, thought all women were whores, and was planning to build his bunker off in the woods.

True ... and talking about insane old posters brought lyric to my mind lol

That was Communist Mississippi / Decisive Action / VoteEarly, right? It's been a while, although I do remember the day he signed into #nationstates_general. It was a good way to raise an op's blood pressure....

OOOooooh, VoteEarly, I remember that cat. Who was that dude who turned a conversation about cars into a racist rant and got deleted, someone had his deletion notice in their sig for while because it was so out there...

That's part of what made me think him dangerous -- that and the bunker mentality.

I *have* a bunker.

Before, there were healthy debates; there were constructive arguments without one side being branded "trolls" because of their views. Now, there is a consensus which has led to group-think; anybody who dares question the status quo is automatically labeled a "troll." Yes, it has changed for the worse.

It's always been that way.

Whatever happened to that Calvinist guy?

I think we scared him off after we did our trademark NSG mob swarm... you know the one I'm talking about, where we all converge on the one strage guy because he's well... just so damn strange.

I think we scared him off after we did our trademark NSG mob swarm... you know the one I'm talking about, where we all converge on the one strage guy because he's well... just so damn strange.

Well, you all converge on me from time to time. I thought you were all just venting your rage, as is common on teh Internets.

I think we scared him off after we did our trademark NSG mob swarm... you know the one I'm talking about, where we all converge on the one strage guy because he's well... just so damn strange.

He was barred from the site.

We have the occasional right-wing nutjob who claims that the Bush administration is the best thing since sliced bread, but aside from that NSG is fine.

Ruthless self promotion.

Ruthless self promotion.

You know what really soured NSG? That bastard IL Ruf-oh, hey man...whats up?

Drunk commies is gone, so yes.

You know what really soured NSG? That bastard IL Ruf-oh, hey man...whats up?

I fart in your general direction.

Clearly, the solution is to bring back Forum 7. One of the best parts of 2004, IMO. ;)

What the hell was Forums 7, anyway? (is n00b)

He was barred from the site.

Aw, you mean we didn't scare him away? :p I guess we have to try harder next time. ;)

What the hell was Forums 7, anyway? (is n00b)

A legacy ... I was over there a very short while before the transfer over here OMG crazy slow

Yes it has declined, but gradually over a long period starting well before you came.

A legacy ... I was over there a very short while before the transfer over here OMG crazy slow

Oh, F7 was the old NS server.

Oh, F7 was the old NS server.

The original NS forums were housed on the nationstates.net domain before they grew too large and were moved to Jolt. Each forum was numbered but forum 7 was mysteriously missing. Speculation was that it was the moderator's forum, hidden from public view, but nobody would ever confirm it. Some NS general regulars expanded it into a long running joke and made seperate forums with that name.

As I recall, there was a Forum Seven for some time that everyone could see... and it rapidly became Spam Central.

As I recall, there was a Forum Seven for some time that everyone could see... and it rapidly became Spam Central.

Spam is good. When I saw your avatar, I thought you were Kyronea. (His avatar on GM)

When I got here, it was a happy place. There was only one troll, no slamfests, and very few flames. Now, it seems to be people mindlessly attacking others and trolling a lot, the OP of every thread is slammed, and people are feeding the trolls. I just have to ask, is this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13007284&postcount=78) really what's happened? Or am I in some kind of hardcore nostalgia?

Back in my day, the polar ice caps stretched to Madrid, summer in scotland was 35 degrees constantly, youths did nothing apart from chase hoops with sticks and hitler was just a nice guy in Germany killing all the jews.
What has the world come to since then?!? Honestly, i tell you. The youth of today...

AMK
xxx

Back in my day, the polar ice caps stretched to Madrid, summer in scotland was 35 degrees constantly, youths did nothing apart from chase hoops with sticks and hitler was just a nice guy in Germany killing all the jews.
What has the world come to since then?!? Honestly, i tell you. The youth of today...

AMK
xxx

I get your point. The "old days" had their bad as well.

As I recall, there was a Forum Seven for some time that everyone could see... and it rapidly became Spam Central.

Yes, and I posted in it like it was my part-time job. Because I was spamtastic like that.

I get your point. The "old days" had their bad as well.

Yea, like I know about the old days here lol.
All I know is that the Romans were bastards.

AMK
xxx

It's still the same old mix of us ancient ones too stubborn *cough*addicted*cough*to move on, n00bs too noobish to move on, and those in the middle ground.

"It's all the same. Only the names will change...."

"We knew we had the good things but those never seem to last."

It's definately gone downhill ever since the bullshit banning of DCD.

"We knew we had the good things but those never seem to last."

It's definately gone downhill ever since the bullshit banning of DCD.

What? Don't I get any credit for bringing down the establishment? Obviously I haven't been doing my job of spreading misery and discord.... I deserve credit for bringing this place down to its knees! :)

What? Don't I get any credit for bringing down the establishment? Obviously I haven't been doing my job of spreading misery and discord.... I deserve credit for bringing this place down to its knees! :)

You were attempting to overthrow the establishment? Never noticed.

Yes, and I posted in it like it was my part-time job. Because I was spamtastic like that.

Still love ya, though. :D

"We knew we had the good things but those never seem to last."

It's definately gone downhill ever since the bullshit banning of DCD.

Right. For posting precisely what he had been warned never to post again. Such bs.

You were attempting to overthrow the establishment? Never noticed.

Obviously it isn't working if no one is noticing. :)

I believe NSG is more or less the same, with the noticeable exception of the growing popularity of the annoying and dangerous philosophy that all Muslims right down to every man, woman and child are subhuman, evil and barbaric Al Qaeda jihadis/sympathizers that need to be laid to the ground with their blood and brains spattered all over to make the world a better place.

If almost any religion and its adherents were targeted like that I'd be just as annoyed by that attitude. But 9-11 seems to have made Muslim Bashing a global sport more popular than football in the West.