NationStates Jolt Archive


A hypothetical situation....

The Parkus Empire
28-08-2007, 21:29
Suppose a nation legalized mortal combat. Fights ranging from machine guns, to rapiers, to katana. REAL fights. Gladiators. And was aired on T.V. The U.S. for some-reason let's it air LIVE. Would you tune-in, or not?
Dundee-Fienn
28-08-2007, 21:32
Is there a way for me to tune in without those airing it profiting?
Turquoise Days
28-08-2007, 21:34
Nope.
The Parkus Empire
28-08-2007, 21:34
Is there a way for me to tune in without those airing it profiting?

Not unless you ask to see it at a friend's house, who happens to be watching it anyway.
Newer Burmecia
28-08-2007, 21:34
Yes, on the preconditions that it 1)included anyone who has ever been on Big Brother and 2)both the winner and the loser enjoyed slow, painful deaths.

That's reality TV I could go for.
The Parkus Empire
28-08-2007, 21:35
Yes, on the preconditions that it 1)included anyone who has ever been on Big Brother and 2)both the winner and the loser enjoyed slow, painful deaths.

That's reality TV I could go for.

Mmm. It might be kinda fun to see stars duke-it-out with politicians. "Christopher Lee vs. Bill Clinton!"
Zilam
28-08-2007, 21:40
Are there babeality or friendships involved? If so, count me out. I want to see some hard core ripping out of the hearts with bare hands by four armed women, and lasers coming from mens eyes. Anything less just sucks.
Upper Botswavia
28-08-2007, 21:43
I can't stand reality tv as it exists, and am made nauseous by the images published by the news media that callously show corpses as though they were merely a decorative backdrop to the goals of our glorious leadership.

No. I don't want to look at dead people. I don't want to watch people kill each other, I've seen it, it is not fun. I don't even want to watch boxing, a sport where the only goal is to injure someone else is not for me. I like my entertainment to actually be entertaining, not sickening.
IL Ruffino
28-08-2007, 21:45
BACK, FORWARD, FORWARD, FORWARD, Y

:cool:
Zilam
28-08-2007, 21:48
BACK, FORWARD, FORWARD, FORWARD, Y

:cool:

Was that an actual Mortal Kombat move, or did you make that up? For some reason it makes me think of Liu Kang's dragon move.
Dundee-Fienn
28-08-2007, 21:50
I don't want to watch people kill each other, I've seen it, it is not fun.

I wouldn't want to watch it for the fun of it. I'd want to watch it for the experience of it.

I wouldn't support it however and i'd try to get rid of it
Vetalia
28-08-2007, 22:17
Tune in? Hell, I'd be financing it.
Upper Botswavia
28-08-2007, 22:17
I wouldn't want to watch it for the fun of it. I'd want to watch it for the experience of it.


Why would you need that experience? Try this, instead. Watch the news when they are showing the after effects of a terrorist bombing. Now, when you see that body flung on the ground try to imagine that it is not some random stranger but that it is your mother lying there with half her head turned to pulp, and her remaining eye wide open because she realized what was happening to her as it happened. What if the guy stumbling around bleeding freely from a torn off limb and about to die because not even a medical miracle could save him was your favorite uncle? How about if it was your girlfriend, not an unidentified lump that might as well have been put there by a movie props department still burning and bubbling and screaming and screaming and screaming?

This imagery probably doesn't make you nearly as ill as it really should. Images of death have become so commonplace that we don't even consider the people in them to be PEOPLE anymore. It is too easy to look at them and not remember that this is not some green screen special effect, it is really some poor woman's son who is crushed under those bricks, and the mother of some orphan who has been decapitated by bullet fire.
FreedomAndGlory
28-08-2007, 22:31
It depends. If nobody was coerced into fighting or the combatants were criminals, I would probably tune in. Otherwise, it would be far too barbaric for my fancy.
The Parkus Empire
28-08-2007, 22:33
It depends. If nobody was coerced into fighting or the combatants were criminals, I would probably tune in. Otherwise, it would be far too barbaric for my fancy.

They were either paid combatants, who really didn't care about killing or death, or they were rapists and/or murders.
The Parkus Empire
28-08-2007, 22:36
Why would you need that experience? Try this, instead. Watch the news when they are showing the after effects of a terrorist bombing. Now, when you see that body flung on the ground try to imagine that it is not some random stranger but that it is your mother lying there with half her head turned to pulp, and her remaining eye wide open because she realized what was happening to her as it happened. What if the guy stumbling around bleeding freely from a torn off limb and about to die because not even a medical miracle could save him was your favorite uncle? How about if it was your girlfriend, not an unidentified lump that might as well have been put there by a movie props department still burning and bubbling and screaming and screaming and screaming?

This imagery probably doesn't make you nearly as ill as it really should. Images of death have become so commonplace that we don't even consider the people in them to be PEOPLE anymore. It is too easy to look at them and not remember that this is not some green screen special effect, it is really some poor woman's son who is crushed under those bricks, and the mother of some orphan who has been decapitated by bullet fire.

You take death too seriously. I understand what you mean, and I admire your staunch stand on ethics, but this question doesn't concern mothers, or children, or fathers. It concerns people who are being paid to kill each-other, and don't mind doing it.

And yes, I think some lives are worth more then others.
Vectrova
28-08-2007, 22:42
The problem arises when the two combatants unite themselves against everyone else and escape. If they devised a way to actually MAKE them fight, sure. I'd watch it.
Extreme Ironing
28-08-2007, 22:54
Maybe once, after that I would oppose its existence. However, considering most video games involve killing your opponent (and if online, another person character), I should think it would be quite popular.
FreedomAndGlory
28-08-2007, 22:57
They were either paid combatants, who really didn't care about killing or death, or they were rapists and/or murders.

Then yes; its entertainment value would be considerable.
Trotskylvania
28-08-2007, 22:57
Suppose a nation legalized mortal combat. Fights ranging from machine guns, to rapiers, to katana. REAL fights. Gladiators. And was aired on T.V. The U.S. for some-reason let's it air LIVE. Would you tune-in, or not?

In that case, I will be to busy to watch TV, as I will be paying Sean Hannity a visit...
The Parkus Empire
28-08-2007, 23:06
The problem arises when the two combatants unite themselves against everyone else and escape. If they devised a way to actually MAKE them fight, sure. I'd watch it.

The combatants are being paid to fight, no-one has to force them.
Mittea
29-08-2007, 00:01
If such a thing was legalised then it would say more about the mores of the nation that airs it then it would say about the combatants.

Didn't the days of the Roman circuses and a while ago?

Heck might aswell up the ante, start throwing christians to the lions again. Then a quick cut to the commercials before we can delight in the fact that reverend Smith is snapped in half by a lion.

Maybe a commercial about a father who is learning his son how to ride a bicycle and at the end of it the name of some random bank appears on your screen. Aaw...a moment of well deserved rest in a sea of carnage. Might aswell treat yourself on a beer. When has TV ever let you down?

Seriously though, if the western world ever attempts such thing, Al-Queda has my personal premission to bomb it all to hell.
Entropic Creation
29-08-2007, 02:37
I havent the slightest problem with it.

The gladiatorial games in Rome were great fun for the whole family!

Seriously though, I have oft stated my belief that taking death row inmates and allowing them to volunteer to be a gladiator would be a fabulous way to fund the justice system.

Televise the fights and make a fortune. The inmates get the carrot of perhaps getting better living conditions with the more famous they became, not to mention their own machismo ego getting boosted. After all, inmates fight and kill each other all the time, why not organize it and make some money?