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http://foxattacks.com/blog/10777-fox-attacks-iran

History repeats itself, no? But so soon?

http://foxattacks.com/blog/10777-fox-attacks-iran

History repeats itself, no? But so soon?

The sad thing is, we can't expect anything more from them.

This stuff happens all the time everywhere. Not to creepy just familiar.

Click Stand;12998592']The sad thing is, we can't expect anything more from them.

well here is something worse:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT54PpHdT0E

What I find creepy is that graphic where the plane turns into the eagle.

Faux will be Faux.

what was creepy was the voice of one those man

I think it's pretty well known that Fox jumped the shark sometime in 2003 or 2004. Now it just rants and foams at the mouth, waiting for lil' Rupert to face up to his responsibility and cap the network like Ol' Yeller.

I remember on Fox once they had this pundit called Mike something or rather, and he was raging for all 5 minutes how Jimmy Carter and 'Liberals' made Iran powerful.

Some one forward this to the Daily Show.

I remember on Fox once they had this pundit called Mike something or rather, and he was raging for all 5 minutes how Jimmy Carter and 'Liberals' made Iran powerful.

...Savage?

...Savage?

"Savage" Weiner? :D
Can't hate if you haven't loved first ....

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2003/03/05/savage/index.html
Weiner has lived in Northern California for most of his adult life, making a living as an herbalist and nutritionist. He communed with Fijian traditional healers, got married in a rain forest and studied ethno-medicine at the University of California at Berkeley. He swam naked with Allen Ginsberg, dreamed of being the next Lenny Bruce and wrote a rambling novel about a half-mad alter ego. His son's middle name is Goldencloud. For years, he made a name cranking out a pile of books on alternative medicine, recommending bizarre remedies such as using vitamin C to stop AIDS and kicking cocaine with coffee enemas.
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Weiner was also something of a dreamer, and he hoped to follow in the footsteps of his hero, the naturalist Charles Darwin. After getting a biology degree from Queens College, he went as far west -- and as far from home -- as possible, winding up in Oahu, Hawaii, where he earned master's degrees in anthropology and botany from the University of Hawaii. Throughout the late 1960s and early 1970s, he traveled to Tonga, Fiji and other South Pacific island nations to study traditional herbal medicine. His new wife, Janet, and their young son, Russell Goldencloud, often accompanied him on his travels. Local healers warmly welcomed him, and he became passionately convinced that their expertise could be used to cure modern ailments. Thus began a quest to salvage-- not savage-- this "ethnic wisdom" before Western influences destroyed it. His research on the sedative kava kava and other Fijian medicinal plants served as the basis for his doctoral work at U.C. Berkeley. His 1978 dissertation, on file in the U.C. Berkeley library, shows his degree was in nutritional ethnomedicine. However, the bio in the back of Savage's book and on his Web site says it was in epidemiology and nutrition science.
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According to Stephen Schwartz, who was then a left-wing activist and writer, Weiner carried an unusual letter of introduction. "He had met Allen Ginsberg in Fiji," he recalls. "He had this photograph of himself swimming naked with Ginsberg." Poet and biographer Neeli Cherkovski says Ginsberg and Lawrence Ferlinghetti, the owner of City Lights Bookstore, introduced him to Savage in 1976. "All I knew was that he was this hip guy who'd been traveling in the South Seas, finding ways to use tropical plants to help end diseases," he recalls. The two became friends. "We had a lot of fun times. He's very smart, intelligent and very lively," says Cherkovski, who is now writer-in-residence at San Francisco's New College. Weiner told Cherkovski that he dreamed of becoming a stand-up comic in the mold of Lenny Bruce and they talked of doing a comedy routine together.
-"Getting Off Cocaine: 30 Days to Freedom" promised blow addicts "an alternative plan for getting 'high' -- legally and naturally!" The treatment involved ingesting a daily cocktail of Sudafed, vitamins C and E, and amino acids, as well as self-administering the occasional coffee enema. "Use a good quality coffee," Weiner advised. "Not decaffeinated or instant."
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This maniacal tendency, and the roiling emotions that fueled it, were laid bare in "Vital Signs," Michael Weiner's first and only book of fiction, published in 1983.
(check it out?)

well here is something worse:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT54PpHdT0E

That was rather sickening.

However, the one guy did remind me of RO/DK/WL.

The entire dialogs can be shortened to:

"I hate muslims, muslims aren't real Americans."

*crowd claps*

Tis a shame people like that are capable of reproducincg.

I remember on Fox once they had this pundit called Mike something or rather, and he was raging for all 5 minutes how Jimmy Carter and 'Liberals' made Iran powerful.

I seem to remember Reagan selling weapons to Iran... and then using the money to fund terrorist organizations...

The irony kills.

I seem to remember Reagan selling weapons to Iran... and then using the money to fund terrorist organizations...

The irony kills.

Oh but you see, it's ok when the conservatives do it but when the liberals do it, they're treasonous bastards who must be hung from their toes. ;) You're not allowed to point out the hypocrisy or irony because it's only bad when the liberals do it; after all, they're out to destroy America and violate her sacred values. *nods*

You guys seriously need a non-partisan, publicly funded news service and some decent anti-racism legislation. I've overheard neo-Nazi speeches that weren't as bad as the shit in that last clip, Zilam.

The most surprising I found from that video was that only 67% of Fox viewers thought Iraq had links to Al Qaida. I thought it'd be much higher than that.

You guys seriously need a non-partisan, publicly funded news service and some decent anti-racism legislation. I've overheard neo-Nazi speeches that weren't as bad as the shit in that last clip, Zilam.

Hell no, there's no way I'd trust the government to actually critique itself in the media.

More than that, Fox News is a mere portion of the media market, and the people who watch it are likely to watch it regardless of the alternatives.

Rub the lamp to get the magical genie of the state to cure all!

The most surprising I found from that video was that only 67% of Fox viewers thought Iraq had links to Al Qaida. I thought it'd be much higher than that.

I'm sure numbers like that keep Murdoch up nights. "Why isn't it higher?!"

You guys seriously need a non-partisan, publicly funded news service and some decent anti-racism legislation. I've overheard neo-Nazi speeches that weren't as bad as the shit in that last clip, Zilam.

Non-partisan publicly funded news service we have. It's just not watched.

As for the anti-racism legislation...if you're talking about legislation against free speech, Imma have to say no. Don't ban the speech. Educate against it.

Oh but you see, it's ok when the conservatives do it but when the liberals do it, they're treasonous bastards who must be hung from their toes. ;) You're not allowed to point out the hypocrisy or irony because it's only bad when the liberals do it; after all, they're out to destroy America and violate her sacred values. *nods*

Why don't we all just shut up and let Kryozerkia do all the talking?

Don't you love how they claim Iranian links to al Qaeda, even though Iran is Shia Muslim and al Qaeda is Sunni?

Don't you love how they claim Iranian links to al Qaeda, even though Iran is Shia Muslim and al Qaeda is Sunni?

And there's no one that the Sunni hate more than the Shi'a.

Non-partisan publicly funded news service we have. It's just not watched.You do? Where did you hide it?

As for the anti-racism legislation...if you're talking about legislation against free speech, Imma have to say no. Don't ban the speech. Educate against it.To be honest, I don't know what I was talking about. I guess I was just too shocked and horrified to make sense. Probably it's that the difference between what I expect the US to be, and what it is, is just too great for me to cope real well.

And there's no one that the Sunni hate more than the Shi'a.Not true. Most of all, they hate SPARTAAAA!... eh.. I mean Freedom. Yeh, that's it. Freedom. Dem's hate it.

Psst! Tonight we dine on Freedom Fries!

EDIT: Overlooked this.Hell no, there's no way I'd trust the government to actually critique itself in the media.That something is publicly funded doesn't mean it has to be under direct popitical, let alone party political, control. Try having a look at Northern Europe for some examples. If you're still convinced it's a teeeerible idea, I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree.

More than that, Fox News is a mere portion of the media market, and the people who watch it are likely to watch it regardless of the alternatives.Thing is, when you have a public service news outlet, forced to meeet certain minimum standards, other media outlets won't have such a merry time spinning their lies. They'll be challenged continually and lose credibility. At least, that's what happens in other countries. Not in any terribly impressive way, but even the lowest of low standards would be a fucking transformation of US media.

Rub the lamp to get the magical genie of the state to cure all!Unlike certain other people, I'm not inherently blind to the state of reality, just because I have an ideological axe to grind with it. I am, as you're apparently oblivious, not a statist at all, but an anarcho-syndicalist.

And there's no one that the Sunni hate more than the Shi'a.

Exactly. The two sects each consider the other apostate.

It's just dumbasses who manage to get on national television.

EDIT: Overlooked this.That something is publicly funded doesn't mean it has to be under direct popitical, let alone party political, control. Try having a look at Northern Europe for some examples. If you're still convinced it's a teeeerible idea, I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Well, I misspoke in saying that the US doesn't have a public broadcasting service, we do actually. Unfortunately for the American experiment with public broadcasting, these channels have a notoriously difficult time competing with the big networks due to the perceived responsibility to produce x number of shows with y purposes, although life was much easier for the CPB back when there were only five channels. While it offers quality programming, there usually is only one or two channels in any given area, and they both broadcast the same shows, which are usually tailored to very small children.

Thing is, when you have a public service news outlet, forced to meeet certain minimum standards, other media outlets won't have such a merry time spinning their lies. They'll be challenged continually and lose credibility. At least, that's what happens in other countries. Not in any terribly impressive way, but even the lowest of low standards would be a fucking transformation of US media.

That isn't what has happened in the US. People routinely turn to other news outlets rather than PBS, regardless of the quality of the programming on PBS (which really isn't a classical public broadcasting service, rather it relies on private donations instead of taxpayer funding).

If anything, even if more funding were applied to PBS, the situation would not change radically, if at all. The American public has so many choices of news sources, that most people just cherry pick their favorite stations and broadcasts. People on the left hear what they want to hear, and people on the right hear what they want to hear. I mean, when I'm at school I can watch CNN, FOX News, MSNBC, Bloomberg, CNBC, BBC, DeutscheWelle and C-Spans 1-3 for 24 hour news and PBS, NBC, CBS, Fox, ABC, and god knows what else for programmed news.

We've got news competition out the nose in the US, and I don't think increasing funding to just one single station would have much effect on American media consumers.