NationStates Jolt Archive


DMX is getting into the act too.

Wilgrove
25-08-2007, 19:11
Welp, it's official, the world really is getting stupider by the day if not the minute.

CAVE CREEK, Ariz. -- Sheriff's deputies acting on a tip of animal cruelty raided the Phoenix-area home of rapper-turned-actor DMX and carried out 12 pit bulls in need of immediate medical care, investigators said.

They said they also found several dogs buried in the back yard of the Cave Creek property. The Maricopa County sheriff's deputies said a tip came in more than a week ago about dogs being kept in inhumane conditions, said Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Detectives went to the home and then called one of the rapper's lawyers, Arapio said. Investigators told him that the conditions for the dogs needed to be improved or deputies would obtain a search warrant, Arpaio said.

Authorities armed with a warrant returned to the home Friday and discovered a dozen dogs that were not being watered or fed. Arapio said.

A source told CBS 5 News that someone had recently been hired to take care of DMX's dogs while he is in New York. Neighbors said they haven't seen DMX for several months.

nvestigators also found drug paraphernalia and a cache of weapons inside the home, according Arpaio. Arpaio said it does not appear dogfighting was involved, just abuse of dogs. Earl Simmons, 36, also known as DMX, was not at home when the raid occurred, according to deupties. The animals were taken to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office M.A.S.H. unit. The facility at the jail is no-kill animal shelter created to house and care for animals that have been abused or neglected by their caretakers and rescued by the Animal Cruelty Investigative Unit.

DMX has a history of law-enforcement run-ins.

In 1999, during a "Hard Knock Life" tour stop in Denver, he was arrested and later cleared in the stabbing and shooting of his mother.

In 2002, he pleaded guilty to animal cruelty for neglecting 13 pit bulls in his possession.

Link (http://www.kpho.com/news/13970298/detail.html#)

This is just sad beyond belief. So I now have two questions.

1. How many youngster who idolize DMX will now start to abuse their dogs because he did it?

2. What will be the end result of this? Will DMX serve jail time for animal cruelty & abuse or will his high price lawyers get him off on probation?
Ifreann
25-08-2007, 19:16
Well, it's official, the world really is getting stupider by the day if not the minute.



Link (http://www.kpho.com/news/13970298/detail.html#)

This is just sad beyond belief. So I now have two questions.

1. How many youngster who idolize DMX will now start to abuse their dogs because he did it?

2. What will be the end result of this? Will DMX serve jail time for animal cruelty & abuse or will his high price lawyers get him off on probation?

*hopes for jail time*
Sarkhaan
25-08-2007, 19:17
1. How many youngster who idolize DMX will now start to abuse their dogs because he did it?

2. What will be the end result of this? Will DMX serve jail time for animal cruelty & abuse or will his high price lawyers get him off on probation?

1. none
2. there is no evidence linking him to it as of yet. If it turns out to be true, then his punishment will depend upon where he is convicted.
Wilgrove
25-08-2007, 19:20
*hopes for jail time*

Ditto, and I mean real jail, the pound him in the ass jail, not the minimum security white collar jail. In fact, we should just get rid of minimum security white collar jails.
Wilgrove
25-08-2007, 19:21
1. none
2. there is no evidence linking him to it as of yet. If it turns out to be true, then his punishment will depend upon where he is convicted.

1. You'll be amazed by how stupid and impressionable young people can be.
2. True, we'll just have to wait to see who dropped the ball when it came to taking care of these dogs.
Ifreann
25-08-2007, 19:25
2. there is no evidence linking him to it as of yet. If it turns out to be true, then his punishment will depend upon where he is convicted.

Now that you mention it, it occurs to me that DMX is likely rich enough to have someone working for him who "takes care" of his dogs. If such a person exists I would expect that person will get the jail time for this, if there's any.
Katganistan
25-08-2007, 19:30
Put him and Vick in a small room with only one meal and tell them to fight for it.

Repeat for any asshole of any color who thinks this is appropriate.
The_pantless_hero
25-08-2007, 19:32
Now that you mention it, it occurs to me that DMX is likely rich enough to have someone working for him who "takes care" of his dogs. If such a person exists I would expect that person will get the jail time for this, if there's any.
That's his claim. DMX was in New Orlean or something for 2 months and didn't hear about any notices or anything until they came and took his dogs. He said some one was being paid to take care of them.
The_pantless_hero
25-08-2007, 19:33
Put him and Vick in a small room with only one meal and tell them to fight for it.

Repeat for any asshole of any color who thinks this is appropriate.
Ignorant and racist vilification. Hurray!
Let's hang DMX for his dogs being mistreated without any evidence that it was actually his fault just because he is black! To the hangin' tree!
Katganistan
25-08-2007, 19:35
That's his claim. DMX was in New Orlean or something for 2 months and didn't hear about any notices or anything until they came and took his dogs. He said some one was being paid to take care of them.

And yet, five years ago, pled guilty to animal neglect of another 13 pits? What are the odds.

Maybe he shouldn't own so many dogs he can't take them with him. Or maybe he just shouldn't own dogs.

Ignorant and racist vilification. Hurray!
Let's hang DMX for his dogs being mistreated without any evidence that it was actually his fault just because he is black! To the hangin' tree!

Oh, kiss off, where am I a racist, moron? Did he own the dogs, yes or no? Did he previously plead guilty to animal cruelty to 13 dogs in his possession in 2002, yes or no? Did I bring their color into it, or did YOU?

Think before you drool.
IL Ruffino
25-08-2007, 19:37
I'm insulted by your generalization of today's youth.
Ifreann
25-08-2007, 19:40
That's his claim. DMX was in New Orlean or something for 2 months and didn't hear about any notices or anything until they came and took his dogs. He said some one was being paid to take care of them.

I wonder if they'll care enough to autopsy the dead dogs.
JuNii
25-08-2007, 19:46
And yet, five years ago, pled guilty to animal neglect of another 13 pits? What are the odds.

Maybe he shouldn't own so many dogs he can't take them with him. Or maybe he just shouldn't own dogs.
I remember hearing something about that.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
25-08-2007, 19:51
On a side note, I can't believe that Joe Arpaio is still in office there! Ugh.
The Sacred Orb
25-08-2007, 19:59
*hopes for jail time*

Unfortunately jail time in animal cruelty cases is minimal.

Hes a mega star= crack legal team

conversely its Sheriff Joes beat. "Get Em Joe...sic em boy!! *snickers wildly*
The_pantless_hero
25-08-2007, 20:06
Did I bring their color into it, or did YOU?



Repeat for any asshole of any color who thinks this is appropriate.

Pretty sure you did.
Seangoli
25-08-2007, 20:07
Oh, kiss off, where am I a racist, moron? Did he own the dogs, yes or no? Did he previously plead guilty to animal cruelty to 13 dogs in his possession in 2002, yes or no? Did I bring their color into it, or did YOU?

Think before you drool.

I'm just assuming here, but I think he misunderstood what you meant by "of any color", as meaning "colored people"-type saying.
Of course, I'm assuming that's not what you meant. Which I'm sure you didn't.
JuNii
25-08-2007, 20:10
Pretty sure you did.

OF ANY COLOR meaning everyone reguardless of race or color. so not racist.
The_pantless_hero
25-08-2007, 20:11
OF ANY COLOR meaning everyone reguardless of race or color. so not racist.
Ok, I misread it. But that just makes it not overtly racist. There is no reason to specify "of any color."
Katganistan
25-08-2007, 20:33
Pretty sure you did.

Pretty sure your reading comprehension is faulty.
Sarkhaan
25-08-2007, 21:27
1. You'll be amazed by how stupid and impressionable young people can be.
2. True, we'll just have to wait to see who dropped the ball when it came to taking care of these dogs.

Kids are not nearly as stupid or even impressionable as you seem to think. Few would say "Oh look, Mr. Celebrity beat his puppy, that sounds fun!"

Those ethics are instilled by age 3...to say that this would cause kids to go abuse animals is no different than saying OJs actions made children go murder 3 people
Wilgrove
25-08-2007, 21:30
Kids are not nearly as stupid or even impressionable as you seem to think. Few would say "Oh look, Mr. Celebrity beat his puppy, that sounds fun!"

Those ethics are instilled by age 3...to say that this would cause kids to go abuse animals is no different than saying OJs actions made children go murder 3 people

Difference is OJ wasn't a hip hop rap star when he killed those people, he was a washed up football star and washed up actor.
Dinaverg
25-08-2007, 21:32
Kids are not nearly as stupid or even impressionable as you seem to think. Few would say "Oh look, Mr. Celebrity beat his puppy, that sounds fun!"

True, their grammar would be far worse.
Nodinia
25-08-2007, 21:33
Ignorant and racist vilification. Hurray!
Let's hang DMX for his dogs being mistreated without any evidence that it was actually his fault just because he is black! To the hangin' tree!

Emmmm.....I saw no hint of racism there, tbh.

Ok, I misread it. But that just makes it not overtly racist. There is no reason to specify "of any color."
!

Actually you might put it in if you wanted to make sure nobody thought you were being racist. Waste of time in hindsight, I suppose.
Sarkhaan
25-08-2007, 21:34
Difference is OJ wasn't a hip hop rap star when he killed those people, he was a washed up football star and washed up actor.

Okay...then it's like saying that because Tupac shot two police officers, other people will

The ethics are in place. The people who would kill or torture an animal or person have deeper issues than doing something because a celeb did it.
Hydesland
25-08-2007, 21:37
Ok, I misread it. But that just makes it not overtly racist. There is no reason to specify "of any color."

Yeah there is. It's to stop people from crying "racist!", I guess NSG is that predictable after all.
JuNii
25-08-2007, 21:41
Okay...then it's like saying that because Tupac shot two police officers, other people will

The ethics are in place. The people who would kill or torture an animal or person have deeper issues than doing something because a celeb did it.

The problem is that people will see that as "being Cool".

so yes, TuPac shooting cops will influence others towards defiant and violent actions against authority figures because they are authority figures.

Other examples? Lil Kim going to jail for contempt of court since she won't "snitch" on one of her groupies,

Other 'Rappers' ragging on 50 cent because he did help the police.

The glamour that some celebrities cast on certain lifestyle choices does influence their fans. maybe kids won't arrainge dog fights, but they may see a 'mean tough dog' as a status of what's 'cool'.
Sarkhaan
25-08-2007, 21:47
The problem is that people will see that as "being Cool".

so yes, TuPac shooting cops will influence others towards defiant and violent actions against authority figures because they are authority figures.

Other examples? Lil Kim going to jail for contempt of court since she won't "snitch" on one of her groupies,

Other 'Rappers' ragging on 50 cent because he did help the police.

The glamour that some celebrities cast on certain lifestyle choices does influence their fans. maybe kids won't arrainge dog fights, but they may see a 'mean tough dog' as a status of what's 'cool'.
admittedly, the tupac example was the only other I could come up with. The OJ one is still a better fit.

A "mean tough dog" is one thing. That could be any bull dog, put bull, etc. That doesn't necessarily lead to animal abuse.
JuNii
25-08-2007, 21:56
A "mean tough dog" is one thing. That could be any bull dog, put bull, etc. That doesn't necessarily lead to animal abuse.
true, but for a 'kid' whos looking for a quick way to get a mean tough dog...

Not saying it will happen, just saying it's a possibility.

I am interested in WHO he hired to watch his dogs...
Johnny B Goode
25-08-2007, 21:57
Welp, it's official, the world really is getting stupider by the day if not the minute.



Link (http://www.kpho.com/news/13970298/detail.html#)

This is just sad beyond belief. So I now have two questions.

1. How many youngster who idolize DMX will now start to abuse their dogs because he did it?

2. What will be the end result of this? Will DMX serve jail time for animal cruelty & abuse or will his high price lawyers get him off on probation?

His lawyers'll get him off. After all, OJ was acquitted.
JuNii
25-08-2007, 22:18
His lawyers'll get him off. After all, OJ was acquitted.

I think it was more to the screwups that the PD did and less on the Lawyers.
Vandal-Unknown
25-08-2007, 22:18
Dogs? How about manslaughter and DUI/DWI for 30 hours of community service and $2.60 fine?

http://www.rockonthenet.com/artists-m/motleycrue_main.htm

August
-Neil found himself in trouble for vehicle manslaughter and drunk driving when his car crashed and killed 2 passengers. Neil was found guilty but only required to spend 30 days in jail, provide community service and pay a $2.6 fine.

Superstardom = virtual immunity.
Johnny B Goode
26-08-2007, 01:17
I think it was more to the screwups that the PD did and less on the Lawyers.

Hm. Ok. I wasn't even around then.